@@mtbyumyum I want to get on this bike I like the Switchblade, cant knock it but depending on the trails I'm riding that particular day I find the Blade to be somewhat cumbersome. Good going dowhill but in tight techie climbing sections I wish i was on a different bike than a Switchblade.
He doesn’t appeal to a lot of viewers who want to watch videos of every bike being ridden down a double black diamond trail at mach chicken. His appeal is to a smaller audience that wants no fluff information by a rider going at normal speeds on trails like most ride. I count myself in that camp.
@@nckporter I agree, he is moving along at a good pace. He just doesn't offer the glitz and glamour shots and over the top personality that seems to attract viewers. Personally, I prefer his style over the other.
haha I don't have many subs because almost 80% of viewers are unsubscribed lol. and very few hit the like button, and I don't publish consistently or 2-3 times a week... and don't do a "is the Walmart bike really trail worthy?" videos.... or "how to corner" It would be really nice to get the support that many other mtb youtubers get.... honestly, as a working man with a full time job it gets frustrating... anyway. Yeah, most people dont realize how gnarly Jacobs is at the speeds I'm going. Averaging 24+ mph down that 2:30 minute segment is bonkers with speeds over 30 mph and the camera doesn't do it justice. I've had several viewers of the channel come ride it and email me afterward saying how they cant believe how different the trails are in person compared to watching on youtube. Because I have a day job I don't have a lot of time to film and produce high level content... pov footage is easy to capture without needing another person or setting up shots... basically just film my normal morning rides and do a very simple edit and upload..... low production but still taking time away from my "free time" "family time" so yeah, it would be nice if more people would hit the subscribe button lol *rant over... sorry ;)
Yep! I'm sort of thinking the same thing.... although when I ride with a lot of focus, high intensity and speed, nothing feels better than the Yeti....
The new ripmo has very similar lines to the 23 sb140lr. It's still my favorite bike, but really enjoying my new spur as well! Appreciate all your reviews.
The big plus of the ripmo is the mullet capability. As far as I know there is no cascade link for the sb140 to drop down. For riders on small sizes that spend days at bike parks on them the ripmo makes a lot of sense.
another great review! Keep up the good work. I also really like the MX review you did of the Ripmo as that's how I'd run it myself. Now i just need to decide between the Ripley and Ripmo. Tough decision for only 1 bike.
I have an Alchemy Arktos 140. it fits dimensionally directly in-between the Ripmo and Ripley. The suspension and design is nearly identical Ibis to Alchemy. Check it out. Boutique brands FTW.
Great review. Looks like a great bike. That said....I wanted a mullet some years back and Santa Cruz answered the call with the Bronson. A few weeks on the Bronson and my V2 Ripmo couldn't go up for sale fast enough. If I had to go shop today it looks like the Ibis bikes would be back in the hunt...just a few years late for what I wanted.
There's so much to consider between the new ripley and ripmo I say buy either model... then by the other model shock and clevis and experiment with both
I just swapped my Ripmo from 29 to 27.5. It’s a total pain in the butt to do. You have to take out the shock and then the bolts that switch from 29 to 27.5 are difficult to lineup.
Was considering a Ripley until I saw the weight gain. I bet the new Exie gains some weight to help fill that spot. I'm a Pivot fan so I ordered a Mach 4 SL in the 115/120 setup.
@@mtbyumyum Very stoked, your review on that bike was excellent. I endurofied my Switchblade (coil shock, Zeb and cascade link), over the last 2 years to make it more gravity focused and am blown away with how good it still climbs. It's now more of a PCMR bike, skidders etc. Gives up the playful feel. The M4 will be so much fun in the desert and more mellow terrain like CC.
Pretty cool bike. I've had an HD5 for the past 4 years and I have not been tempted by another bike until now. I was excited for the HD6, but it's just more bike than I needed. If I thought I could get more than pennies on the dollar for my HD5, I'd be all over the new Ripmo ... mullet. Maybe next year.
Great review Jason! Need to hear you do a shoot out with the Ripmo and an HD6. How close or how far away are they and which feels better to ride? Glad to hear your glowing review and yes, it is great time to be riding. 29 pounds is a nice weight to be in. I bet you could get lighter with Rockshox suspension, but you got a great build man!
Yeah it just hit me that finding the right brand, model and amount of travel is all about balance. . We all want a single arrow quiver that will hit every bullseye but it just can't exist, just like you can't have a Porsche that will win on the track and also handle the Rubicon. . So we all want a bike that doesn't give up anything in climbing ease but gets incredible traction, and yet is very smooth and capable downhill but doesn't sacrifice any poppiness, and yet still handles tight twisty & slow technical with precision and ease and it just doesn't exist unless you are willing to sacrifice a little here for more there. . So it comes down to what bike is the best *_compromise_* and does nothing as well as some other bike will do one or each thing, but does *_everything_* extremely well, and what am I willing to sacrifice in one arena in order to get superior performance in another arena. . I find myself thinking bike X is the one until I hear a review on bike Y that it out climbs everything else, then bike Y is the one - until I hear a review saying bike Z is more capable and then I want bike Z, etc, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseam, ad astra. . So now I'm looking for the ultimate balance between all of the varying aspects of a bike which is for an everyday ride because I can't afford the best bike for each category for each varying type of trail, and it appears the new Rip__ is where I'm going to end up dropping big bucks. What I'm wondering is what the strength or weakness is between the Ripley V² and Ripmo V3 - being I have heard rumor that it's the same bike with just a different shock and swingarm attachment. . How much climbing snappiness does the Ripmo V3 give up vs the Ripley V² for that extra cush, and how about the overall performance on slow, tight, twisting technical? 😓
Trust me, what you're currently doing I've done x100.... and I get to ride a lot of different bikes.... that said, for me, I've been able to best help a person find the right bike by answering a few simple questions. what is your: 1- speed 2- terrain 3- riding style
As always an amazing review thanks so much. Hey how does this thing and the Ripley handle blue trails? You know a little easier trails. Often times you talk about how easy bike is to ride. I’m assuming these are. Can they both handle tight twisty trails about the same Ripleyversus Ripmo. I live here in Florida. Certainly the Ripley is enough travel, but being 60 years old and still getting after it if they both pedal about the same, I’m thinking the extra comfort would be good. About to get the old switchblade because it’s pretty easy to pedal around the tight twisty trails here in Florida wondering how the Ripmo compares.
Torn between this and Ripley. Ripley blue is best color. But it feels dainty(but that’s prolly why it’s fun) and a bit too far over the bars. Haven’t tried the ripmo. If they climb same then I’m going ripmo for Extra safety on the downhills
Depending on your speed, terrain, and riding style, I would go with the Ripmo between the two. The Yeti SB140 is also an incredible option and has been my personal trail bike for the last two seasons. I could not recommend it more and right now Salt Cycles has it up to 35% off. Call Chris: 801-943-8502
I am exactly the guy described in the video - I am trying to decide between the Ripley and the Ripmo. Trying my best to not be a dreamer about the riding I do - I need to admit that 'Most' of the time - a Ripley would be better as most of the places I ride are 'pedally' meaning lots of shorter ups and downs. I wonder how the new Ripley compares to say a Transition Smuggler??
Thanks for another great video! Always enjoy and appreciate your POV. Curious, if the frame is the same, does buying either one give you two bikes? Seems like the main difference is just fork and shock?
Correct, same frame. I think you would need a new clevis to mount the shorter/longer shock to the frame depending on what bike you started with. That said, I just swapped the Ripmo from 29er to 27.5 last night. It was quite a bit more work then I thought it would be. Certainly not a "trail side" swap.... required removing the shock and needing an extra set of hands. I should also mention I'm not super handy or a mechanic so ymmv
How does it compare to the sb140 on the smoother flowy stuff. I remember you saying the yeti was really good there. Looking at one of these two as my next bike.
Great review. How have you been beating the heat? I've had a hard time dragging myself to the trails because most of the times I can ride it's around 100 degrees outside.
Love your videos Jason 🤩 How does the new Ripmo v3 compare to the HD6? I have heard great things about the HD6 but the Ripmo seem to be a great allrounder.
Thanks for the great review! I'm curious... I've seen Ripley v5 reviews that had its weight over 31 pounds with a Fox 34, etc. How is the Ripmo v3 so much lighter with some beefier components? (I realize the wheels on this is carbon and some lighter components, but still)
Ok let’s deal…yeti sb140 or new Ripmo? How does the DW compare to SI? Love the ability to 27.5 for shorter rider and Yeti has no linkage for that. What climbs better? What is more playful?
More time will tell... Tyler and I rode both bikes last week and swapped back and forth. Yeti feels like it's maybe more efficient climbing but we're splitting hairs... they both climb really well. 140 is for sure softer, more easy going... the rear end just feels smooth!!!
@@mtbyumyumthe 140 or the ripmo is smoother? Didn‘t you tell in the video that the ripmo would be smoother? Thx! Really like and appreciate your work Jason!
160/150!? MX that puppy out... Chuck a coil out back and a Zeb up front and you have a do it all rig!! Spec some durable tyres and it'd be around 32-33lb's of awesomeness!! 🤘
Great review as always ! Only one ride on the Ripley V5 so far and I see what you mean about how capable it is. Interesting to hear the Ripmo climbs similarly but for me I think the Ripley is the bike to have if you can only have one.
Did Ibis change the length of the bike? I didn't check the geo charts. Maybe, the chain stays are longer. That can change the leverage of that DW link suspension and reduce the chatter and skipping over terrain.
The ripley and ripmo are the same front and rear triangle. They use a different linkage and rear shock. The ripley uses a 210x52.5 and the ripmo uses a 230x60. I don’t know why anyone would buy an hd6 when you can turn the ripmo into a ripley with the shorter shock and linkage or pop a spacer out of the shock to get 160mm in the rear and turn it into a hd6.
I should mention you want to make sure the frame leaves plenty of clearance for the wheel at the bottom of the travel. This might be a problem with the smaller frames and lower seat heights.
Great review. I think it’s a “1 bike” vs “2 bikes” question. If you had to pick one - which would it be? If you could have 2 would that change your decision? I tried one bike to span fast flow trail (blue and black) some flat XC with the kids (not racing) and the occasional enduro / bike park / shuttle days. I tried the Yeti SB130 LR as my one bike. Didn’t get along with that set up. Now I have a Ripley v4 built light but with a 140mm fork and a Yeti SB150 built burly. Im wondering if the new Ripley is a “one bike” bike?
Yeah, you're right. Your current setup sounds amazing! I could live with those two bikes. I would have a difficult time with only one bike. Right now I spend most of my time on the Cannondale Scalpel. 120mm front and rear. I also have a Yeti SB140 LR for bigger days. That said, I spend an entire day at the bike park a month ago on the new v5 Ripley and it was pretty good. It's a contender for a 1 bike quiver for sure!
@@awilkinson7 I agree, not something I’d do frequently. I can see having the Ripmo setup on hand for occasional trips where I wanted a burlier bike. I can also see picking up an updated Exie in a year or so and converting the Ripley permanently to a Ripmo and running a two bike setup. That’s the nice thing with the new frames, you have options.
I have squarely ended up like many others considering the options between the heftier mid travel category and xc new releases. I have a ‘20 switchblade and now considering Top Fuel,Epic Evo,Element,SB120,Trail429. Epic and Fuel short list. Need the element to get frame storage
Bite the bullet and get the Trail 429 and get it over with. It climbs as well as the old Ripley and ALMOST, not quite, on the par of the Tallboy bombing downhill with it's bottomless feel. The Tallboy is still the short-travel standard for downhill & it climbs very efficiently & comfortably if you're out to have a chill fun day. But if you want a quicker climbing bike, that maneuvers like a 27.5 in fast twisty turns, bombs down hill like a higher travel bike, the 429 is MORE bike than 95% of the people will need. The fascinating thing is that the 429 is lighter than the Ripley, doesn't cheat to cut weight with "flex stays" like the Spur or Specialized which can bite you in the butt with technical terrain.
I've now had 5 bikes with frame storage and I've yet to ever put anything it said frame storage lol That said, the sb120, t429 are quite a bit different than the element and epic evo.... basically different category
The old ripmo/ripley had a clevis that connected the shock to the frame... this new ripmo and ripley have like a smaller metal looking piece and I'm guessing that ads to the smoothness. I really don't know but Chris at Salt Cycles was telling me something about that...
@@mtbyumyum Watching some of the interviews with Colin the engineer, the shift away from a clevis to a smaller rocker has allowed them to lower the leverage ratio i.e. fit in longer shocks. I reckon what you're feeling as buttery smooth is a that mixed with Fox's updated X and Float shocks and that each size frame now has its own kinematic so everyone gets the same suspension feel for a given size.
Yeah, it's a frustration I've had for a few years now... all bikes are getting long. More stability at speed and excellent traction in corners. In theory it works.... but for most people, in actual riding it doesn't. The bikes now require more speed. At slower speeds these bikes are sort of less fun, think less "WOW" factor. So, yeah, they're not as zippy as they used to be.
Great Review and thanks for the insight. I'm currently on a V2s size large. I'm 6' even. I'm right in-between extra medium and Large. Any advice? I have a 50mm stem on the V2s so could go 35 on the V3 Large.
If you subscribe to Lee McCormacks views you would probably be on the old large or new XM Fwiw, i'm 6'1" and i ride the old large... and i'm planning on purchasing the XM even though the ibis website is telling me otherwise... i feel like the new Large is waaay bigger than what i'd want... i feel like the seat tube length on the new large is too long... i ride slower rolling/tech terrain though
Man. The Ripley and Ripmo feel redundant. I was really hoping for a carbon ripley with the same Geo as a ripley AF. Maybe the next Gen exie gets slacked out.
I have those same wheels on my Exie, Scalpel, Ripmo and ASR. and yes, the 240's are sooooo smooothhhh!!!!! Crazy how much I prefer them over the I9's.... the ASR actually has dt swiss 180 hubs.... but I really don't think they're worth the extra money over the 240's
It's been a minute since I last rode the 150 but it's a much more serious bike than the new Ripmo.... stiffer, more business like.... the new Ripmo is pretty easy going, soft and playful...
@@mtbyumyum dude that's a great comparison haha I went from the mo v2 to the 150 and I was surprised how burly it feels. Not a bad way cause it crushes the dh, but def have to work to bunny hop and play. So just wondering how the v3 feels in comparison.
It always has been in my experience but I'm a high level rider.... I'm also a very "light on the bike" and don't need a lot of bike to get me out of a jam. Best case scenario, you match the right bike to the right speed, terrain and riding style... when in doubt, I prefer to have a little less bike and slow down a little if needed but otherwise ride the bike to it's limits! A less experienced or less skilled rider might have a different idea or experience.
What I would like to see in a V2 Exie DC 65.5 HTA built around a fox 34 at 140mm off the showroom floor/that way way the heavy hitters can install a 36 or lyrik at 150mm and not screw the geo/ I’d like to be able to run 120 or 130mm rear travel by use of a travel limiter inside the shock/no proprietary seat binder/ NO internal frame storage/ i want a light/and appropriately flexy frame/ 29er only/ coil compatible/ external bosses for accesory mounts/porkchop compatible/possibly even bosses on top of the top tube for a bolt on top tube bag/ keep the frame weight the same as the v4 possibly lighter
@@MikeesTexas Sounds a bit like a long travel Mach 4SL, which I just bought. Well...what you're suggesting would have slacker and deeper suspension, but I bet the next round of race DC bikes will be at least 130.
I'm also 5'9". Unfortunately, for most bike sizing, 5'9" is right in between medium and large bikes. I nearly always buy the size large and then push the saddle forward and put on a 35mm stem.
This is the fourth addition of this bike v1, v2, v2s, and now v3. They sucked so bad at the first three, who would buy a 4th for 7g.😂 On top of that, they suck at customer service.
@@mtbyumyum you wouldn’t want to know the half of it. They are an over priced boutique brand IMO, you might as well buy an Atherton for the price and you will still get the same suspension characteristics.
Such a bummer Salt Cycles has gotten greedy and is charging $150 for a one day rental plus $20 tax. Ends up being close to $200 to demo a bike for a day. #greed
Salt Cycles is anything but greedy. They go above and beyond to swap parts at no cost and prep bikes for excellent riding. It's the cost of doing business and I'm sure they pay their employees a living way too. Service costs $$
I think that the new Ripley is dead on arrival. Why buy the new Ripley when you could buy the new Ripmo instead. Once they increased the travel of the new Ripley to 130/140mm and used the same heavy frame as the new Ripmo, the new Ripley is now very similar to the new Ripmo. In the end, you might as well get the extra travel. I would like to see you do a head to head shoot out using the lighter faster-rolling tires that you would use on the Ripley on both bikes. Those 2 bikes are now so close in travel, weight, and geometry that it's the tires that are making the biggest difference. With the same tires, the only difference is going to be the extra 20mm of travel. If I could have only one mountain bike, I would always pick the bike with the 160mm travel fork. By using lighter faster-rolling tires and firming up the rear suspension you can get nearly the same ride characteristics as a shorter travel bike.
If you get a chance you should ride the new Ripley. The spec sheet doesn't tell the whole story. I've ridden almost every generation of Ripley and now own the v5. In my opinion, it's the best riding Ripley they've made. It is about a pound heavier, but it absolutely doesn't ride like it.
@@ripvw6184 I have no doubt that new Ripley is an excellent bike. It might even be the best 130/140mm travel bike ever made. However, with the same tires, the new Ripmo is going to be just as good but when the going gets fast, steep, and rough, it's going to be even better. Mountain bikes have gotten so good, that there is really no penalty for for having more travel. I had a 130/130 Trail bike and replace it a 150/160 All-Mountain bike. I expected the A-M bike to be heavier, climb slower, and be less fun on easier trails but none of that turned out to be true and it descends much better. To really see a difference you would have to ride 120/120 XC/Downcountry bike. Then the bike would be lighter, climb better, and be more fun on easier trails but the price would be less confident descending. The Ripley and the Ripmo are too much alike. When that happens, more travel is nearly always better.
Yeah it is unclear to me if he’s running the same wheel/tire setup on both bikes. He’d mentioned in a comment that the wheels he’s running on the Ripmo are sub 1300 grams. I can say without a doubt my V5 easily out climbs my similarly equipped V1 Ripmo. It’s not even close.
The beauty of the Ripley is I can turn it into a Ripmo with a different shock and fork. Can’t see doing that frequently, but if I was vacationing in a place that required more suspension, I could have it.
@mtbyumyum Given the changes in the ripmo and Ripley - do you think a new Exie is in the works that brings it more in line with the pivot mach 4… or maybe the yeti ASR? It seems like ibis is missing a market segment currently in the 110-115 range ?
Tht's right, but Greg Callaghan (who starts on HD6 in EWS) already won a race in Ireland on the Ripmo V3. I think some riders may be choosing Ripmo instead of HD6 for racing. Both bikes are great of course! :)
Don't know anything about the geometry of the bike, but if they did make the chainstay longer, that does wonders for smoothing out chatter, improving balance, and cornering traction. It also helps with the front end vagueness that the Ripmo and Switchblade have been known for🫡
Please get a new v3 (2024) switchblade demo and do a SB140, Ripmo and switchblade shootout.
I rode the new Switchblade back in the spring… ua-cam.com/video/2nGYqNOAF3k/v-deo.htmlsi=XZ_dVmpfAVzaUsbJ
@@mtbyumyum I want to get on this bike I like the Switchblade, cant knock it but depending on the trails I'm riding that particular day I find the Blade to be somewhat cumbersome. Good going dowhill but in tight techie climbing sections I wish i was on a different bike than a Switchblade.
@@scott48 That's interesting to hear, I feel the short chain stays really make the bike nimble up and down. But I'm a medium frame of the V2.
That would be great
@@vashusan1984 @scott48 Very interesting to hear, it has the fast and nimble geo. Most 140> bikes are longer and much slacker.
Waiting to see what you think about this vs the new stumpjumper 15.
Would love to get a ride on that bike....
Every new review I want to sell my bike and get that one lol.
haha find comfort in knowing basically all current bikes are really very good....
@@mtbyumyum Thanks! I have a Giant Trance Advanced Pro 29 2. Ditched the Live Valve and put Fox factory suspension on it. GripX fork and Float shock.
Same , it’s like “ this is the BRAND NEW…..” And you’re like what the ….😂 ( Santa Cruz Bronson)! 😂
Another great review, I don't see how Jason doesn't have a million subscribers.
He doesn’t appeal to a lot of viewers who want to watch videos of every bike being ridden down a double black diamond trail at mach chicken.
His appeal is to a smaller audience that wants no fluff information by a rider going at normal speeds on trails like most ride. I count myself in that camp.
@@carymcreynolds Ironically, he is riding down a pretty gnarly trails at high speeds in all his reviews. GoPro doesn't do Jacobs Ladder justice.
@@nckporter I agree, he is moving along at a good pace. He just doesn't offer the glitz and glamour shots and over the top personality that seems to attract viewers. Personally, I prefer his style over the other.
haha I don't have many subs because almost 80% of viewers are unsubscribed lol. and very few hit the like button, and I don't publish consistently or 2-3 times a week... and don't do a "is the Walmart bike really trail worthy?" videos.... or "how to corner" It would be really nice to get the support that many other mtb youtubers get.... honestly, as a working man with a full time job it gets frustrating... anyway. Yeah, most people dont realize how gnarly Jacobs is at the speeds I'm going. Averaging 24+ mph down that 2:30 minute segment is bonkers with speeds over 30 mph and the camera doesn't do it justice. I've had several viewers of the channel come ride it and email me afterward saying how they cant believe how different the trails are in person compared to watching on youtube. Because I have a day job I don't have a lot of time to film and produce high level content... pov footage is easy to capture without needing another person or setting up shots... basically just film my normal morning rides and do a very simple edit and upload..... low production but still taking time away from my "free time" "family time" so yeah, it would be nice if more people would hit the subscribe button lol *rant over... sorry ;)
Subscribed, liked and commented for the algorithm. Keep it up sir, really appreciate all the work you put into these. Thanks!
I've had my sb140 for 8 months and I am getting the itch. who knows this might be the next whip. Great review as always man.
Yep! I'm sort of thinking the same thing.... although when I ride with a lot of focus, high intensity and speed, nothing feels better than the Yeti....
The new ripmo has very similar lines to the 23 sb140lr. It's still my favorite bike, but really enjoying my new spur as well! Appreciate all your reviews.
@mtbyumyum how do you mean. That the 140 rides best when its being ridden hard. Which do you feel is the more versatile bike ?
The big plus of the ripmo is the mullet capability. As far as I know there is no cascade link for the sb140 to drop down. For riders on small sizes that spend days at bike parks on them the ripmo makes a lot of sense.
another great review! Keep up the good work. I also really like the MX review you did of the Ripmo as that's how I'd run it myself. Now i just need to decide between the Ripley and Ripmo. Tough decision for only 1 bike.
I’m loving the MX. Call Chris at Salt Cycles and order that thing!! 801-943-8502
I have an Alchemy Arktos 140. it fits dimensionally directly in-between the Ripmo and Ripley. The suspension and design is nearly identical Ibis to Alchemy. Check it out. Boutique brands FTW.
Was waiting for this, as you are part of my previous Ripmo choice :P
Great work as usual, thank you for sharing your experience
Thanks! Hope you enjoyed it!
Awesome review! Pretty sure this just made my mind up over the Switchblade, Ripley and 429 trail.
Wow, ok! Exciting! Call Chris at Salt Cycles and get that baby ordered: 801-943-8502
Great review! I like that the added some in between sizes. I tend to fall between most L and xl sizes
Great review. Looks like a great bike. That said....I wanted a mullet some years back and Santa Cruz answered the call with the Bronson. A few weeks on the Bronson and my V2 Ripmo couldn't go up for sale fast enough. If I had to go shop today it looks like the Ibis bikes would be back in the hunt...just a few years late for what I wanted.
I just rode the Bronson for the first time last week. What a fun Bike! Should have a video coming soon?
Great stuff J! Ibis paint jobs are looking 😍. Not a big fan of sharing frames between models, but what you gonna do. Let's get a live stream soon!
I totally need to get going on a live stream... we should have planned one for this week but maybe in a week or two!!
There's so much to consider between the new ripley and ripmo
I say buy either model... then by the other model shock and clevis and experiment with both
I just swapped my Ripmo from 29 to 27.5. It’s a total pain in the butt to do. You have to take out the shock and then the bolts that switch from 29 to 27.5 are difficult to lineup.
Thanks for the time/money/effort into this, you may be the first to report on the behavior of this modification! Long Live YUM YUM!!!🎉
Was considering a Ripley until I saw the weight gain. I bet the new Exie gains some weight to help fill that spot. I'm a Pivot fan so I ordered a Mach 4 SL in the 115/120 setup.
Honestly, the M4 is soooo good. I'm excited for you! It's so similar to the old v4 ripley only a little lighter and faster!
@@mtbyumyum Very stoked, your review on that bike was excellent. I endurofied my Switchblade (coil shock, Zeb and cascade link), over the last 2 years to make it more gravity focused and am blown away with how good it still climbs. It's now more of a PCMR bike, skidders etc. Gives up the playful feel.
The M4 will be so much fun in the desert and more mellow terrain like CC.
Pretty cool bike. I've had an HD5 for the past 4 years and I have not been tempted by another bike until now. I was excited for the HD6, but it's just more bike than I needed. If I thought I could get more than pennies on the dollar for my HD5, I'd be all over the new Ripmo ... mullet. Maybe next year.
Great review Jason! Need to hear you do a shoot out with the Ripmo and an HD6. How close or how far away are they and which feels better to ride? Glad to hear your glowing review and yes, it is great time to be riding. 29 pounds is a nice weight to be in. I bet you could get lighter with Rockshox suspension, but you got a great build man!
Thanks Jason! Yeah, pretty excited to start riding the hd6
Yeah it just hit me that finding the right brand, model and amount of travel is all about balance.
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We all want a single arrow quiver that will hit every bullseye but it just can't exist, just like you can't have a Porsche that will win on the track and also handle the Rubicon.
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So we all want a bike that doesn't give up anything in climbing ease but gets incredible traction, and yet is very smooth and capable downhill but doesn't sacrifice any poppiness, and yet still handles tight twisty & slow technical with precision and ease and it just doesn't exist unless you are willing to sacrifice a little here for more there.
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So it comes down to what bike is the best *_compromise_* and does nothing as well as some other bike will do one or each thing, but does *_everything_* extremely well, and what am I willing to sacrifice in one arena in order to get superior performance in another arena.
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I find myself thinking bike X is the one until I hear a review on bike Y that it out climbs everything else, then bike Y is the one - until I hear a review saying bike Z is more capable and then I want bike Z, etc, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseam, ad astra.
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So now I'm looking for the ultimate balance between all of the varying aspects of a bike which is for an everyday ride because I can't afford the best bike for each category for each varying type of trail, and it appears the new Rip__ is where I'm going to end up dropping big bucks.
What I'm wondering is what the strength or weakness is between the Ripley V² and Ripmo V3 - being I have heard rumor that it's the same bike with just a different shock and swingarm attachment.
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How much climbing snappiness does the Ripmo V3 give up vs the Ripley V² for that extra cush, and how about the overall performance on slow, tight, twisting technical?
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Trust me, what you're currently doing I've done x100.... and I get to ride a lot of different bikes.... that said, for me, I've been able to best help a person find the right bike by answering a few simple questions. what is your: 1- speed 2- terrain 3- riding style
Sounds like a plan, and I'm just wondering how long it'll be before you replace the 140 with the Rip___ ? 😁
As always an amazing review thanks so much. Hey how does this thing and the Ripley handle blue trails? You know a little easier trails. Often times you talk about how easy bike is to ride. I’m assuming these are. Can they both handle tight twisty trails about the same Ripleyversus Ripmo. I live here in Florida. Certainly the Ripley is enough travel, but being 60 years old and still getting after it if they both pedal about the same, I’m thinking the extra comfort would be good. About to get the old switchblade because it’s pretty easy to pedal around the tight twisty trails here in Florida wondering how the Ripmo compares.
Both the new Ripmo and Ripley are more easy going than the previous model Switchblade... they just feel softer and not as stiff
Need the stumpy 15 review and comparisons
I really want to see a comparative between the new rip and the new Stumpjumper
Torn between this and Ripley. Ripley blue is best color. But it feels dainty(but that’s prolly why it’s fun) and a bit too far over the bars. Haven’t tried the ripmo. If they climb same then I’m going ripmo for
Extra safety on the downhills
Depending on your speed, terrain, and riding style, I would go with the Ripmo between the two. The Yeti SB140 is also an incredible option and has been my personal trail bike for the last two seasons. I could not recommend it more and right now Salt Cycles has it up to 35% off. Call Chris: 801-943-8502
I am exactly the guy described in the video - I am trying to decide between the Ripley and the Ripmo. Trying my best to not be a dreamer about the riding I do - I need to admit that 'Most' of the time - a Ripley would be better as most of the places I ride are 'pedally' meaning lots of shorter ups and downs. I wonder how the new Ripley compares to say a Transition Smuggler??
I actually think I got a line on a smuggler for a review soon…
@@mtbyumyum awesome - look forward to it!
Great review
New stumpjumper 15 and Ripmo v3 shootout Thank you
Thanks for another great video! Always enjoy and appreciate your POV. Curious, if the frame is the same, does buying either one give you two bikes? Seems like the main difference is just fork and shock?
Correct, same frame. I think you would need a new clevis to mount the shorter/longer shock to the frame depending on what bike you started with. That said, I just swapped the Ripmo from 29er to 27.5 last night. It was quite a bit more work then I thought it would be. Certainly not a "trail side" swap.... required removing the shock and needing an extra set of hands. I should also mention I'm not super handy or a mechanic so ymmv
@@mtbyumyum Thanks! Appreciate your help.
Great review!
Glad you enjoyed it!!
How does it compare to the sb140 on the smoother flowy stuff. I remember you saying the yeti was really good there. Looking at one of these two as my next bike.
Great review. How have you been beating the heat? I've had a hard time dragging myself to the trails because most of the times I can ride it's around 100 degrees outside.
Yeah, pretty hot few weeks... not to bad early morning before work!
Love your videos Jason 🤩 How does the new Ripmo v3 compare to the HD6? I have heard great things about the HD6 but the Ripmo seem to be a great allrounder.
Sadly I've still not ridden the hd6 lol I keep getting too busy and keep getting other bikes to ride and the hd6 gets put off....
Thanks for the great review! I'm curious... I've seen Ripley v5 reviews that had its weight over 31 pounds with a Fox 34, etc. How is the Ripmo v3 so much lighter with some beefier components? (I realize the wheels on this is carbon and some lighter components, but still)
Ok let’s deal…yeti sb140 or new Ripmo? How does the DW compare to SI?
Love the ability to 27.5 for shorter rider and Yeti has no linkage for that.
What climbs better?
What is more playful?
More time will tell... Tyler and I rode both bikes last week and swapped back and forth. Yeti feels like it's maybe more efficient climbing but we're splitting hairs... they both climb really well. 140 is for sure softer, more easy going... the rear end just feels smooth!!!
@@mtbyumyumthe 140 or the ripmo is smoother? Didn‘t you tell in the video that the ripmo would be smoother? Thx! Really like and appreciate your work Jason!
160/150!? MX that puppy out... Chuck a coil out back and a Zeb up front and you have a do it all rig!!
Spec some durable tyres and it'd be around 32-33lb's of awesomeness!! 🤘
haha sounds like you know what you want!! lol So funny! My HD6 doesn't even weight 32 pounds lol that said, I totally plan on riding the Ripmo mullet!
@@mtbyumyum 32-33 lbs ain't nothing but a chicken wing when you (aka me) weigh 245 lbs 😉
Haha the first thing I did with my hd6 was take the Maxxis DD DHR II tire off for a standard exo DHR II tire to save 250g😆
Great review as always ! Only one ride on the Ripley V5 so far and I see what you mean about how capable it is. Interesting to hear the Ripmo climbs similarly but for me I think the Ripley is the bike to have if you can only have one.
Good call!
Did Ibis change the length of the bike? I didn't check the geo charts. Maybe, the chain stays are longer. That can change the leverage of that DW link suspension and reduce the chatter and skipping over terrain.
The ripley and ripmo are the same front and rear triangle. They use a different linkage and rear shock. The ripley uses a 210x52.5 and the ripmo uses a 230x60. I don’t know why anyone would buy an hd6 when you can turn the ripmo into a ripley with the shorter shock and linkage or pop a spacer out of the shock to get 160mm in the rear and turn it into a hd6.
Wow, what?? You can make the rear of the Ripmo 160mm ??
@@mtbyumyum i think you can even make the back end of the ripley 160.
I should mention you want to make sure the frame leaves plenty of clearance for the wheel at the bottom of the travel. This might be a problem with the smaller frames and lower seat heights.
Great review. I think it’s a “1 bike” vs “2 bikes” question. If you had to pick one - which would it be? If you could have 2 would that change your decision? I tried one bike to span fast flow trail (blue and black) some flat XC with the kids (not racing) and the occasional enduro / bike park / shuttle days. I tried the Yeti SB130 LR as my one bike. Didn’t get along with that set up. Now I have a Ripley v4 built light but with a 140mm fork and a Yeti SB150 built burly. Im wondering if the new Ripley is a “one bike” bike?
Or you can get a Ripley and an extra fork and shock and have both.
Yeah, you're right. Your current setup sounds amazing! I could live with those two bikes. I would have a difficult time with only one bike. Right now I spend most of my time on the Cannondale Scalpel. 120mm front and rear. I also have a Yeti SB140 LR for bigger days. That said, I spend an entire day at the bike park a month ago on the new v5 Ripley and it was pretty good. It's a contender for a 1 bike quiver for sure!
@@mtbyumyumthanks! Would you have the v5 Ripley if you could only have 2 bikes?
@@ripvw6184I think I would rarely get around to changing it. Had 2 sets of wheels once to do that and 1 set got used almost never.
@@awilkinson7 I agree, not something I’d do frequently. I can see having the Ripmo setup on hand for occasional trips where I wanted a burlier bike. I can also see picking up an updated Exie in a year or so and converting the Ripley permanently to a Ripmo and running a two bike setup. That’s the nice thing with the new frames, you have options.
I have squarely ended up like many others considering the options between the heftier mid travel category and xc new releases. I have a ‘20 switchblade and now considering Top Fuel,Epic Evo,Element,SB120,Trail429. Epic and Fuel short list. Need the element to get frame storage
Bite the bullet and get the Trail 429 and get it over with. It climbs as well as the old Ripley and ALMOST, not quite, on the par of the Tallboy bombing downhill with it's bottomless feel. The Tallboy is still the short-travel standard for downhill & it climbs very efficiently & comfortably if you're out to have a chill fun day. But if you want a quicker climbing bike, that maneuvers like a 27.5 in fast twisty turns, bombs down hill like a higher travel bike, the 429 is MORE bike than 95% of the people will need. The fascinating thing is that the 429 is lighter than the Ripley, doesn't cheat to cut weight with "flex stays" like the Spur or Specialized which can bite you in the butt with technical terrain.
I've now had 5 bikes with frame storage and I've yet to ever put anything it said frame storage lol That said, the sb120, t429 are quite a bit different than the element and epic evo.... basically different category
The rear end feel is 100% because of the shock behavior.
The old ripmo/ripley had a clevis that connected the shock to the frame... this new ripmo and ripley have like a smaller metal looking piece and I'm guessing that ads to the smoothness. I really don't know but Chris at Salt Cycles was telling me something about that...
@@mtbyumyum Watching some of the interviews with Colin the engineer, the shift away from a clevis to a smaller rocker has allowed them to lower the leverage ratio i.e. fit in longer shocks. I reckon what you're feeling as buttery smooth is a that mixed with Fox's updated X and Float shocks and that each size frame now has its own kinematic so everyone gets the same suspension feel for a given size.
Wow, ok. Cool!!
Sounds noisy. Did you think the same? Maybe it was the loose trail
The wheelbase on the Ripmo and Ripley seem long. Any thoughts on the impact to ride characteristics in tight corners and switchbacks.
Yeah, it's a frustration I've had for a few years now... all bikes are getting long. More stability at speed and excellent traction in corners. In theory it works.... but for most people, in actual riding it doesn't. The bikes now require more speed. At slower speeds these bikes are sort of less fun, think less "WOW" factor. So, yeah, they're not as zippy as they used to be.
What are your thoughts on the size? Am 6’ 2” and ride an XL in the V2S but I think I should get a large in this bike.
Great Review and thanks for the insight. I'm currently on a V2s size large. I'm 6' even. I'm right in-between extra medium and Large. Any advice? I have a 50mm stem on the V2s so could go 35 on the V3 Large.
If you subscribe to Lee McCormacks views you would probably be on the old large or new XM
Fwiw, i'm 6'1" and i ride the old large... and i'm planning on purchasing the XM even though the ibis website is telling me otherwise... i feel like the new Large is waaay bigger than what i'd want... i feel like the seat tube length on the new large is too long... i ride slower rolling/tech terrain though
Sorry I can't be more help.... the medium feels about the same as the last one to me.... 5'8"
How does the new Ripmo compare to the HD6?
I’m so disappointed they messed up the ripley. People who over bike will still over bike themselves, but we lost the best bike ever built.
Yeah, maybe
Hows it compare to the Stumpy Evo Alloy?
I think Ibis went with the fox 38 during Covid when the 36 wasn’t available due to supply constraints. That’s the rumor I heard.
34 on Ripley, 36 on Ripmo, and 38 on HD6 is how I see Ibis’s logic in the lineup.
@@youbikewithatube right but they used to put a 36 on the ripmo and then they started using the 38
could you do new mayhem 140 review? you never reviewed any spot as far as i am aware. are they hard to get at your area?
Email them and tell them to send me one for demo.... several brands send me bikes.... smaller brands might not even know that I do this....
So sounds like the sb140 trail not LR is the perfect balance of the 2 ibis bikes 🤔
Yeah, it could be... a head to head comparison of that, the Tallboy and the Ripley could be pretty cool.
Man. The Ripley and Ripmo feel redundant. I was really hoping for a carbon ripley with the same Geo as a ripley AF. Maybe the next Gen exie gets slacked out.
do you think that you will review a giant again anytime here soon?
I'd like to... it's just a matter of getting one for a week
@@mtbyumyum oh yeah I probably should have thought about that, cool hope to see one soon
What are the custom wheels/hubs Salt Cycles built for you ?
They’re in house carbon rims, very durable and lightweight. DT swiss 240 hubs. Total weight, 1,250 grams
Salt Cycles 801-943-8502 they can also use I9 hydra hubs… they’re a little heavier and louder
@@mtbyumyum240’s best hubs ever , they’re so smooth and almost silent 🤫
@@mtbyumyum Are you riding those wheels on the Ripley as well?
I have those same wheels on my Exie, Scalpel, Ripmo and ASR. and yes, the 240's are sooooo smooothhhh!!!!! Crazy how much I prefer them over the I9's.... the ASR actually has dt swiss 180 hubs.... but I really don't think they're worth the extra money over the 240's
What is your crank set up? Are you using standard Era crank/spindle with RF's 0 offset rings for HG+?
Dude, I really don't know lol Salt Cycles just set it up for me.... sorry
Would love to see it with a 38 170 fork and a float x2 or a coil on the rear. Wonder how it would compete against the sb150 💀
Maybe take a look at the sb160....
@@mtbyumyum nah man, wanted something more comparable to this. Just wondering how it would compete against the sb150 with a 170 fork.
It's been a minute since I last rode the 150 but it's a much more serious bike than the new Ripmo.... stiffer, more business like.... the new Ripmo is pretty easy going, soft and playful...
@@mtbyumyum dude that's a great comparison haha I went from the mo v2 to the 150 and I was surprised how burly it feels. Not a bad way cause it crushes the dh, but def have to work to bunny hop and play. So just wondering how the v3 feels in comparison.
Underbiking a good idea?
It always has been in my experience but I'm a high level rider.... I'm also a very "light on the bike" and don't need a lot of bike to get me out of a jam. Best case scenario, you match the right bike to the right speed, terrain and riding style... when in doubt, I prefer to have a little less bike and slow down a little if needed but otherwise ride the bike to it's limits! A less experienced or less skilled rider might have a different idea or experience.
If the new V5 Ripley is the spiritual successor of the V2 Ripmo, do you think the new Exie will be the replacement for the V4 Ripley?
Do u mean the v4 ripley?
@@MikeesTexas ooops…I fixed this in my comment. The question was - do you think the new Exie is going to be the “new” V4 Ripley?
I think you are onto something here… Maybe we will see an v2 Exie XC and a v2 Exie DC?!?!?
What I would like to see in a V2 Exie DC
65.5 HTA built around a fox 34 at 140mm off the showroom floor/that way way the heavy hitters can install a 36 or lyrik at 150mm and not screw the geo/
I’d like to be able to run 120 or 130mm rear travel by use of a travel limiter inside the shock/no proprietary seat binder/ NO internal frame storage/ i want a light/and appropriately flexy frame/ 29er only/ coil compatible/ external bosses for accesory mounts/porkchop compatible/possibly even bosses on top of the top tube for a bolt on top tube bag/ keep the frame weight the same as the v4 possibly lighter
@@MikeesTexas Sounds a bit like a long travel Mach 4SL, which I just bought. Well...what you're suggesting would have slacker and deeper suspension, but I bet the next round of race DC bikes will be at least 130.
Im 5’9” would like to try that extra medium. My med V2S feels a little crammed sometimes
I'm also 5'9". Unfortunately, for most bike sizing, 5'9" is right in between medium and large bikes. I nearly always buy the size large and then push the saddle forward and put on a 35mm stem.
Same here. V2S just so dang good tho!
let me guess. its composed.
I feel the Rimpo got better and Ripley got worse
Maybe. They're just different.... the Ripley will be a great bike for a lot of people out there.
Livestream video please. And please compare the ripmo v3 vs switchblade v3 vs sb140 🙏
Yeah, it’s probably time to do a live stream. Good idea!
This is the fourth addition of this bike v1, v2, v2s, and now v3. They sucked so bad at the first three, who would buy a 4th for 7g.😂 On top of that, they suck at customer service.
Eash.... sounds like you've had a bad experience with Ibis lol
@@mtbyumyum you wouldn’t want to know the half of it. They are an over priced boutique brand IMO, you might as well buy an Atherton for the price and you will still get the same suspension characteristics.
Give me the short version?!
Such a bummer Salt Cycles has gotten greedy and is charging $150 for a one day rental plus $20 tax. Ends up being close to $200 to demo a bike for a day. #greed
Salt Cycles is anything but greedy. They go above and beyond to swap parts at no cost and prep bikes for excellent riding. It's the cost of doing business and I'm sure they pay their employees a living way too. Service costs $$
I think that the new Ripley is dead on arrival. Why buy the new Ripley when you could buy the new Ripmo instead. Once they increased the travel of the new Ripley to 130/140mm and used the same heavy frame as the new Ripmo, the new Ripley is now very similar to the new Ripmo. In the end, you might as well get the extra travel.
I would like to see you do a head to head shoot out using the lighter faster-rolling tires that you would use on the Ripley on both bikes. Those 2 bikes are now so close in travel, weight, and geometry that it's the tires that are making the biggest difference. With the same tires, the only difference is going to be the extra 20mm of travel.
If I could have only one mountain bike, I would always pick the bike with the 160mm travel fork. By using lighter faster-rolling tires and firming up the rear suspension you can get nearly the same ride characteristics as a shorter travel bike.
Totally agree
If you get a chance you should ride the new Ripley. The spec sheet doesn't tell the whole story. I've ridden almost every generation of Ripley and now own the v5. In my opinion, it's the best riding Ripley they've made. It is about a pound heavier, but it absolutely doesn't ride like it.
@@ripvw6184 I have no doubt that new Ripley is an excellent bike. It might even be the best 130/140mm travel bike ever made. However, with the same tires, the new Ripmo is going to be just as good but when the going gets fast, steep, and rough, it's going to be even better. Mountain bikes have gotten so good, that there is really no penalty for for having more travel. I had a 130/130 Trail bike and replace it a 150/160 All-Mountain bike. I expected the A-M bike to be heavier, climb slower, and be less fun on easier trails but none of that turned out to be true and it descends much better. To really see a difference you would have to ride 120/120 XC/Downcountry bike. Then the bike would be lighter, climb better, and be more fun on easier trails but the price would be less confident descending. The Ripley and the Ripmo are too much alike. When that happens, more travel is nearly always better.
Yeah it is unclear to me if he’s running the same wheel/tire setup on both bikes. He’d mentioned in a comment that the wheels he’s running on the Ripmo are sub 1300 grams. I can say without a doubt my V5 easily out climbs my similarly equipped V1 Ripmo. It’s not even close.
The beauty of the Ripley is I can turn it into a Ripmo with a different shock and fork. Can’t see doing that frequently, but if I was vacationing in a place that required more suspension, I could have it.
@mtbyumyum Given the changes in the ripmo and Ripley - do you think a new Exie is in the works that brings it more in line with the pivot mach 4… or maybe the yeti ASR? It seems like ibis is missing a market segment currently in the 110-115 range ?
Now they have the HD6 for EWS the Ripmo can be a proper trail bike
Tht's right, but Greg Callaghan (who starts on HD6 in EWS) already won a race in Ireland on the Ripmo V3. I think some riders may be choosing Ripmo instead of HD6 for racing. Both bikes are great of course! :)
Don't know anything about the geometry of the bike, but if they did make the chainstay longer, that does wonders for smoothing out chatter, improving balance, and cornering traction. It also helps with the front end vagueness that the Ripmo and Switchblade have been known for🫡
How would you compare this to the SC Hightower?
It's been so long since I last rode a Hightower.... sorry I can't be of more help