No explanation required. I really enjoy your take on bikes. Would love to see you ride the Revel Rascal V2 seeing as you reviewed the original and it plays in this 130mm category also.
I agree and don't on the great weight debate. On a shorter ride it's not really a huge factor. However, when you're 30 miles/5+ hours into a big high country ride and slogging up a steep pass you really do start to notice a heavier bike and it can really take its toll. That's probably not a "typical" ride for a lot of riders, but where I live (SW Colorado) it's every weekend for a bunch of local mountain bikers. I also don't really buy the argument that the heavier bikes are justified because of modern riding style and trails (ie; you need a stiffer frame, fork, bigger brakes, etc.). Ya...that stuff makes the downhill more rad, but for me personally I'm riding the exact same trails that I was 20 years ago. The trail/terrain hasn't changed. I was just as fast (probably faster) on my 2016 Yeti SB4.5 that weighed 26-27 lbs. Why does my long-day high country bike now need to be 5 lbs heavier after almost 10 years of progress in engineering and design? I find the weight increases across multiple brands super frustrating.
I get it. A lighter bike can be nice but I just pedaled a 33lb bike 6000 feet today and it never felt like the bike was slowing me down. I’m not mr fitness either. And I was able to ride some amazing single track that a lighter, softer frame with flimsy tires would have made miserable. To each their own but I’m not whining about a few extra pounds.
At five hours and 5k feet of climbing you're going to be tired no matter what. Having lived in the southwest 25 years I can say most people do not ride 4-5 hour continuous rides on a regular basis. Those are more rides you do on trips or epic days. Most adult non racers don't want 5 hours of every Saturday taken up with a ride. 2-3 hours yes. 5 hours no.
Have been able to get a few rides in on the V5 and am very happy with it. Have had previous versions of the Ripley and just recently coming off a year on the Tallboy. Am not feeling any penalties at all on weight or climbing tendencies. But getting some really nice improvements on descending and overall stability. Still able to ride quick and snappy but push through rough parts of the trail with control. Excited to get some more miles on it.
@@OrenPerets it was a TB5. I’m still dialing some things in, but the Ripley V5 feels overall much more balanced and more grounded on descents. The weight between my two builds is essentially identical with tools, pedals, etc. Climbs on the Ripley have been great, have had no complaints at all. Am aware of the head angle difference at times, but not to the point of it getting in the way. The bike climbs very responsively, I’m very happy with it.
Gotta say I love the honest opinions you give and willingness to “piss everybody off”. And Kudos to Zach for allowing you to speak freely in the reviews and comment sections.
YES IT IS OVER BUILT! Respectfully I am going to have to disagree that weight isn't that big a deal and you should "go ride it" as it relates to this bike. The ibis Ripley has a cult following because it was unique that it could be built to a 25 lbs XC rig or 31 lb trail bike. It was down country before down country was a thing. This new Ripley is in a whole new category of bike. Its pushed right into full trail bike. Nothing wrong with that but don't dismiss the fans of the intention of the old ripley. I am sure the new one is sporty for a run of the mill 130mm bike but its no longer the same intention as previous generations .I get if people want a XC bike they will just get the exie. I think the biggest miss on this is the name. They should of called it the Mojo 5 as that was their previous trail bike. That would make alot more sense because it has the same intent as this new Ripley. Having said all that I am currently on a Revel Rascal now and I think the new Ripley looks a like a good replacement but I get why not everyone is excited about it.
Having ridden and enjoyed both the V5 and the V4 I honestly think the V5 is no worse at the things the V4 was good at. I’m not dismissing anyone wanting a sporty bike, I’m just tired of people judging a bike they’ve only seen on paper and overemphasizing the importance of weight.
@@Hhhhkhhhhhhh What does strength have to do with ibis changing the ripley its original intention? I already ride a 130mm trail bike but I liked that the ripley could do XC or light duty trail.
I can say this about BB heights and being 6'3" and 200lbs myself, 5mm higher makes a difference. I have a YT Izzo and putting it in the higher setup on the trails I ride in FL can mean completely not hitting roots with my pedals, or hitting roots with my pedals in low mode. Yeah I lose slackness in the head angle, but in FL it's not needed so I specifically leave it in high mode down here for that reason. I understand what you mean though with being taller wanting the bike to be lower. You have to trade off one or the other in the end.
You guys need to do a comparison video of the Ripley with 29" wheels Vs. MX setup. I am very interested to know how it performs with the MX setup. Thanks
Yes, that would be rad, i also wish a coil vs air test could be done as well... im making an assumption that these new more pregressive designs might come alive with a coil
Great review as usual. Tend to agree on weight...not as big of deal as most people think. Do I wish Ibis had skipped the frame storage and kept it a little lighter? Sure! Do I think I'm going to notice a pound or so difference on a ride? Really doubt it. It's literally less than the weight of a full water bottle. I switch back and forth between my 25 pound Epic Evo and my 30 pound V1 Ripmo. They obviously ride REALLY differently, but the difference in suspension travel/tire choice/geo are far more noticeable than the 5 pound difference. My Ripley arrives Thursday. Stoked!
I totally agree with your statement about bike weight! Tires and wheels can really change your feel both climbing and descending especially if you’re getting into the mix wheel or straight 29er. Personally I think IBIS has hit that “do it all frame” that can be a changed up for your local trails and being a 160lb rider I’ve been on 36Fox forks but have landed on 34’s as a fully capable fork for my local trails and would only use my bikes with 36 at parks or steeper chunkier trails. You didn’t mention this or I missed it, but I like the IBIS rims, I think an i35mm is perfect for 2.5, 2.6” tires and tires and wheels plus,really something that changes a bike’s handling. If you’re a 2.3, 2.4” tire lover, then you could probably shed some weight with i30rims with Berd spokes as well for those longer days with tons of pedaling. That IBIS really checks✅ all the boxes.
Yeah personally I’m not a fan of 2.6” tires. That said the 2.5”s on this bike on the 35mm rims are great. The rims are pretty rough. I smacked them quite a few times and nothing bent or broke. Ha.
30lb trail bike segment is pretty crowded, heck you could probably include a bunch of all-mountain bikes in the 30lbs range as well…I’ll take a 26-28lb trail bike over a similar 30+ lb trail bike all day long, I think Ibis missed a win here. But maybe there’s a Ripley SL coming 🙏.
Weight is so overrated. Hate to break it to you, but bikes are only getting heavier. People demand in-frame storage - more weight. People want stiffer forks - more weight. People want tires that don't pinch flat every ride - more weight. You can't have it all, I guess.
I’ve got plenty of bikes in the garage at all weights, I know what static and rotational weight does to a bike, and as a customer I’m telling you a 30+ lb mid-travel trail bike lost a key selling feature in my opinion.
Also as a customer I’ll take a bike that holds up to my riding style on a daily basis. To each their own. I’m not going to complain about a few extra lbs.
@RookYZRM1 Ibis still offers the Exie, which is an incredibly light and capable. It's an XC bike that punches above it's belt. I think Ibis covered multiple segments well with its new product line up: Exie-XC, with some lighter trail duty Ripley V5- trail Ripmo V3- all mountain HD6- enduro There are plenty of v4s for sale at 25% and on the after market if that's what you need.
I have a Giant Trance Advanced with GX AXS (xx1 cranks though) and dt swiss exc1501 (trail, not xc) carbon wheels at 28lbs. People sleep on that bike way too much. But it's awesome WITHOUT the live valve
Love the paint job on this one! The dirt-like splashes make it look ridden without actually riding it! Serious note: Agree regarding bike weight. Having a higher 'capability limit' is worth the slightly higher weight
Thanks for another great review. Sizing on this frame is tough. It’s a frame I’d like to build up for next season but am stuck on the sizing. Every bike I’ve ever been on has been a L and the longer the reach the better the bike has felt. I’m a hair under 6’ but with very long arms and I like to feel them stretched out a bit. Current fav bike’s geo has a reach of 480 and it’s a L frame with a 50mm stem (A Spur). If I go by Ibis’s numbers on the geo chart pretty sure I’d be on an XM. I think lots of folks are going to have sizing questions for Ibis on this one.
@@bikersedgeThat is a very good point. Honestly I have this notion in my head that a mx wheel 140 frame with a 150 fork is the perfect bike and anything over that is excessive for what I need. If I were to choose to eventually go full 29 130/140 then at least that option isn’t off the table. What’s your thoughts?
@@bikersedgeI’ll also add that Santa Cruz and these new Ibis frame designs reign supreme in the aesthetic department and offer the option for mx wheel. I’m looking forward to the Ripmo Ripley showdown
I’m all for taller BB’s on larger frames. I ride mostly hand built singletrack that is very rocky/rooty. I don’t like ratcheting my cranks up entire tech sections of trail that I didn’t have to on older bikes. I feel like bikes are being built with flow trails or road climbs with long coasting descents in mind as opposed to pedal heavy trails. That’s what 120mm trail bikes are for. Instead they just keep getting turned into downhill shredders that happen to have a good pedaling platform. Guess I gotta just go with XC race rigs now.
I love the new rip!!! Yeah it’s not the v4 but it’s now a super capable trail bike that can run blacks with ease. If you want the v4 try an epic evo 8. Great bike and as always great review!
Hey thanks! I don’t think the v5 is really any worse at the stuff the v4 was good at. Yup it’s heavier, but if you didn’t know it you could never really tell. It’s still quick and zippy.
There was somthing "romantic" about the Ripley and Ripmo being their own individual bikes, designed from the ground up for different purposes. Im sure pragmatically it wont make a difference, but also seems kind of like a cost saving measure. But if it allows them to keep it at a good price point, im all for it. Im also not sold on in-frame storage. If you have to reinforce the frame for weakening its design in the first place just for a place for your multitool and beer money, is it really worth it?
Yeah seeing two completely different platforms is nice. That said these ride very different from one another even on the same frame. Kinematics feel very different and the build separates them too.
Thanks for the thoughtful and detailed review. I am curious about the new Ripley vs. the Pivot 429 Enduro. Seems like brands are working to get more "in between" the former "trail" and "all mountain" categories.
Agree with you on frame weight. A simple test for anyone: Do you think your bike is more capable at the end of the ride because your water bottle is empty? A full bottle weighs 2 lbs, so you shed that off the "frame weight" as you ride, but I doubt anyone notices this difference.
Unless you're sweating buckets or pouring your water on the ground, I'm pretty sure that weight sticks around for the ride whether it be on the bike or your body lol.
I would love to see the Ripley tested with a 36 in the ripmo vs Ripley show down. As a bigger guy, I want the extra support but still want the pedaling efficiency and handling of the shorter travel bike.
@@bikersedge Thanks for the feedback. Can't wait to try it out. The Ripley V5 might be the one I've been waiting for. I'm a bigger guy too, so "climbs quicker" is definitely a factor in the final decision.
It's like Ibis read my mind, the old ripley af was geometrical capable but the suspension couldn't keep up with the frame. The numbers are right where it should be. I also have every confidence that this bike is going to handle incredibly well and will still pedal great.
Howdy Conor. You’ve got a real knack for this bike review thing. I’d appreciate your insight here, I’ve got a Forbidden Dreadnought V1 XL for beating the snot out of at bike parks, but I need something to make my local (boring) blue flow trails more fun and make climbing less of a chore. I’m a big dude, 6’6, and absolutely hate (suck at) climbing. Mix of techy climbs and fire roads. 500-510 reach with proportional chainstays ideally. Thinking mullet to keep the fun factor, but does that sabotage efficiency uphill? Thinking Banshee Phantom, 5010, Tallboy, new Top Fuel, any other bikes I should take a look at? How much travel is your sweet spot for tackling big climbs but still being able to hit blues and the occasional single black feature on the way down? Dread handles double black duties. Thanks man, appreciate all your hard work, it’s beyond helpful.
@@patrickc2851 thanks! I appreciate the kind words. As a tall guy I don’t know if mullet will be the best option for you. I’d probably stick with 29. I really like 150mm bikes for doing everything. If you’re mostly on blues and blacks though that might be overkill. Something in the 130 range would probably be better suited for blues.
fun review, good as always. you mention "bigger person on 140mm fork". bought an Occam 130mm FOX 34 (thanks to one of your reviews). I put a 140mm air spring in it, which gave enough travel, but also showed a bit of flex in the fork. Now I'm on an SC Bronson with Fox 36 165mm fork... bigger fork, I don't notice flex... kitted out, I'm 6' and 220lbs... seems like if they put a 140mm FOX 36 on here for bigger riders, it wouldn't change the bike that much... am I wrong? maybe for the expense of swapping out the fork, it would be worth just buying a Ripmo, but you mention a noticeable difference in the Ripmo climb ability... I'm thinking of Trail 429 Enduro with a Fox 36 140mm fork... or is this all splitting hairs? Feels tougher and tougher to pedal the Bronson up hill these days and despite 2 years of learning, the Bronson is still WAY more capable than I ever will be... thinking of dropping back down to a 130mm / 140mm bike... but I don't like the flex in the Fox 34 forks... thoughts? ideas?
I think you’re spot on. I’m about 200 and definitely prefer a 36 over a 34. If I had a Ripley I’d put a 36 on it. It will weigh more but I don’t think it’s going to hurt the climbing performance substantially.
Sorry if you answered this already; having ridden the Ripley (AF) and a tallboy v4, i really enjoyed both. I’ve not been on either of the newest models. If you were to spend your own money on either as an all-rounder, which would it be. Have to pick one….haha
@@ChaseAdams-f4h the new Ripley is a great all around option. Almost as capable as the TB on the DH and climbs very well. It would probably be my pick.
Really interesting direction that they took this bike. I thought the quickness/snappiness of the older versions is what defined the Ripley and now that is gone. Maybe the Exie will come fill that void.
a few days late on this so my question is how does it compare to the ripley af from 2021.. You guys did a great video on the AF and said basically that is was much better downhill than the carbon version of the ripley. Thanks for the videos they really help to decide what bike may be the one when the option of demos are limited
Hey! I'm new to your channel -- really great video! Quick question for you regarding setup: Did your Ripley V5 come with one or two fork volume spacers, and did you remove one or both of them? Or did you remove the volume spacer from the rear shock?! It wasn't totally clear to me in the video. Thanks!
It’s been so long since I’ve ridden the AF. Tough to say for sure. I think this is a bit smoother on the DH. The suspension refinements are pretty drastic between this and previous models.
@@bikersedge Thank you! I love this new bike, but carbon is typically out of my price range. Maybe an AF version will come out soon. Always looking for a good do-it-all bike.
@outsider1733 yeah it would be cool to see AF versions with the new design. If you’re looking for something new you could check out Orbea. They do a great job with alloy frames. The Occam SL would be similar to a Ripley.
@@alexsinbb I mean that’s when it’s most beneficial in terms of stability and confidence. I personally like longer reaches for my style of riding and our trails.
Always a great review Conner!! You know me, I'm pushing 7000 miles on my Ripmo V2 now so I've considered getting the Ripley, but then again I can always go Ripmo V3 and then make it a Ripley, that's the beauty of this bike, it is so versatile!!! Also, I'm with you on the BB and I'm 6'4". 👊
Just sold my Tallboy and bought the new Ripley and am very happy. Am not feeling a penalty on climbing but getting some big improvements on the descent.
Excellent review, thank you! Having only ridden the V2 Ripmo and V4 Ripley, I took a chance and ordered a V5 Ripley from my LBS on the day it was released. I went with the XM size as I am 5'10" with a 31" inseam. Hopefully, it will be a good fit. Regarding the problem you had getting into the mid and end stroke of the rear shock. Would you mind sharing your weight? I'm guessing you're on the lighter side since you removed a volume spacer.
I weigh 205. Definitely not on the light side. I’d also argue the terrain I rode this on (not filmed) is quite a bit more demanding that what most folks who buy a Ripley will be riding. I think the spacer for the shock is just too big. I rarely have trouble getting into the travel on a bike but I struggled here for a bit.
@@timmcdermott815 I don’t think it’s necessarily the extra 10 of travel that make the huge difference but rather the geo and suspension kinematics. The Ripley is far more capable than the Trance. The Trance blurs that line between XC and trail. The Ripley is squarely in the trail category.
What do you think about the v5 Ripley vs Rocky Mountain Element? I am on an Element as my trail bike, running it at 140mm. I love how the RM pedals but lacks some fun factor on the DH. How much uphill performance would I be giving up?
The Ripley and element have similar geo but the suspension feel is very different. The element is very XC and the Ripley is way more trail. I think you’re giving up a significant amount on the climbs going with the Ripley but you’re also gaining a similar amount on the DH.
Compared to the old one, this bike is far from nimble-it's not even close. But can you really expect an unbiased opinion from someone who reviews bikes for a living? Lol
Honestly I thought you were going to say this is your favorite short travel bike ever. Sounds pretty legit though. Competes with the Revel Rascal. I think the 130/140 travel category is perfect for majority of riders The capable short travel category is the most exciting bike category right now imo
So, discussing this review with a fellow rider, and we're curious if you can say more about your comparison to the Occam SL. I've ridden neither, but it seems a bit counter-intuitive that the Occam SL is a "faster" and more "XC" climber, but with 140mm of rear travel. Can you say anything more about that, especially as it compares to the Ripley v5 (or even Ripley v4 or another bike brand)? We're just trying to get a full sense of what you meant. Also, what are your thoughts on the Occam SL's headset routing? Is it as bad as everyone is making it out to be?
The Occam has more travel but doesn’t feel like it. It’s very firm and pedally. It’s less capable than the Ripley on the descents. And yes personally I really dislike headset cable routing. It’s an added headache with the only benefit being aesthetics.
Has ibis come out and said if they’ll sell the link to convert the frame between Ripley and Ripmo? Thats a huge selling point if I can get 2 bikes out of the same frame
Not too familiar but I think I’ve seen a lot of folks on gravel or drop bar bikes for that one? The Ripley would likely be overkill. More comfortable but potentially quite a bit slower.
I was thinking of getting a new smuggler but now that you compared these you'd say that if the trails are more 50/50 up/down you think the Ripley is the way to go?
I've clocked that you're roughly 6'2", how did you feel size wise on the new Large geo? I know everything isn't just about reach but it's hard not to notice that it is significantly longer than your average Large
It depends on the trails you would like to ride there. Personally, I want a big bike for southern Utah for trails. If you're on some of the more pedally stuff a Ripley could be good. I really liked riding the Instinct down there. The Trance X is great, too, if you want quick, nimble, and balanced.
The answer is yes. Weight doesn't just affect climbing capability, it affects your ability to move the bike around and lift it over rocks, roots, etc. Admittedly, I haven't ridden this bike, but it's not what I was hoping for.
@@bikersedge hah, no. Just not a fan of the current trend of making every bike an enduro bike. This thing could have been an EWS bike seven years ago. I know bike manufacturers have to change their lineup to stay relevant, but I think they're starting to overshoot the mark.
Tough to judge a bike without having ridden one. Can confirm this rides nothing like an enduro bike or even a mini-enduro bike. It's still an excellent climber and a zippy, lively trail bike. the few extra lbs. are hardly noticeable.
I miss my v4. What it needed was a little more rear travel for modern stuff. Im maybe 180lbs and I'd occasionally g out or clap hard in the back. I was concerned about it braking so i let that be another excuse to its sale. I regret that. I'd love to own the new Ripley or Ripmo. Don't sell your dream bike.
Interesting! And you would agree with the statement that the TB is still the more capable descender? Great review BTW. Helps out folks who can’t demo bikes!
So ripley v5 or santa cruz 5010??? I want to feel more bmxish but still want a stable downcountry beast and a fast climber. Does the ripley have any similar characteristics to the 5010? Ive tested the 5010 and loved it but I would hate to regret it on my longer rides. I have a 22 instinct and a chameleon in my stable at the moment for reference. Help me decide haha
@@Rich2wheels I wouldn’t describe either one of those as “downcountry.” They’re both competent climbers but far from being the fastest. If you want stable enough while being lively and fun on the DH both certainly fit the bill.
I am no expert but I am surprised they made the size longer than the V2. At 6'2" I prefer the V2-XL, the L feels too short and does not climb as well. I also slide off the pedals more, not sure why. The DH felt squirlier but maybe I could get used to that. But turning was quicker. In the V3, my size would now be a L which has geo that is longer then my V2-XL, and that would be too big for sure.
The reach and wheelbase grow but other bike proportions also change. Things like seat tube and chainstay lengths. I rode the L in the V3 where I’d be on an XL in the V2. I’d ride one before you wrote if off. The L V3 might be a great fit.
I should add that from a practicality standpoint, my V2 just fits in my EVOC travel bag, it wont accept longer. Plus, it is at the limit the oversize surplus fee. So longer and heavier has importabt drawbacks for me.
For what this new Ripley weighs, I'd take the Tallboy any day because it is the standard for downhill composure for short travel tail bikes and better uphill on technical terrain. If I wanted a bike that climbs just as good as the Ripley on smooth trails but ALOT better on technical terrain, and still even better downhill, I'd stick to the Pivot Trail 429. Downhill, there's no comparison since the 429 is only second to the Tallboy for short-travel trail bikes. I think Ibis took a "me too" type of approach to have it compete with the newer Yeti 120 and Pivot Trail 429 as climbers that bomb downhill too. My friends that own the V4 Ripley are sticking to it & will not be upgrading to this new version. This will be a bike for new Ripley customers.
I think the gap between the tallboy and Ripley just got a lot smaller. Still think the Ripley is quicker uphill, though in both smooth and technical terrain.
I think the gap between them is a bit smaller than it used to be. The Ripley still feels sportier and quicker overall especially on the climbs. The TB still feels a bit more capable.
@@bikersedge Wow. TB still more capable feeling?! I just demo'd a tb and loved it. Going to replace my revel ranger with either TB or new Ripley. Need to demo a ripley.
@@bikersedge The TB does feel deep. Coming from the ranger Im leaning towards the more agile and better climber of the two bikes since both will be significantly more capable than my ranger.
I don't know about my bike shop, I brought my wheel in for them to look at the hub for making noises on last Thursday. They said it would be fixed over the weekend, so I called yesterday (Tuesday) at 2:00pm and they said they were working on it right now. They close at 6:00 pm and open at 10:00am and its still not done almost a week later. Do you think these guys are burning me?
@@bikersedge Thanks for the reply, I noticed this happens every time with them. They say it will be done on a certain date and its always days later, its really bumming me out.
@@bikersedge Finally got my wheel back, turns out the creaking noise I had all that time were bad bearings in the hub. Now it rides like a different bike, more snappy feeling, crazy.
I am a huge fan of your vids 👍I can see a lot of people complaining about weight and burly. Well, I have a ripmo af and giant trance 29 Allux 😅 so I think you guys are complaining too much 😅. I do want to ride this bike and for what I can see. Probably is not going to be so light weight like the V4 but I think is going to be more versatile so I do believe it’s worth to buy it and coming from a ripmo and trance allux for my i am not going to have any problem 😅😅😅by the way , I bought all my bikes because of your vids and suggestions 😅 so yes I’m a big fan of your vids 😊😊 Thanks 😊 ✅
@@bikersedge I own one and I can’t believe how good it is. Best cornering bike with poppy predictability that I’ve ever ridden. Surprisingly very fast. These two bikes (Ripley) are very similar in build and geo. I think they’d be a great comparison.
See, the problem is, you test bikes mostly the same way, climb up an then bomb down and that’s not what the Ridley used to be about. Of course the new one is going to feel better in your applications, however I bet YOUR paycheck that if you ride that bike in what it used to be it’s intended trails - tight switchbacks, etc, you’ll quickly find out that weight does matter and thus the old is better than the new one. This online fallacy that weight is not that important is crap and it must stop. I would never take my enduro rig or an unnecessarily heavy trail bike to a switchbacky up-down punchy trail.
I ride bikes in a lot of terrain that I don’t film for these videos. I ride plenty of punchy, rolling climbs with tight turns and less high speeds. I still think weight is completely blown out of proportion.
@@bikersedge True that weight weenies can whine too much about weight, however ride a 25lb Ripley at Alafia State Park and then ride a 30lb new Ripley/Ripmo and tell me weight doesn’t matter. Don’t get me wrong, I like the feeling of a sure footed solid feeling bike but when that bike is slowing you down because of the weight m, that’s where I draw the line.
Different strokes for different folks. I’ll take the ride quality, durability and reliability of what a heavier duty frame and components provide over weight savings every day of the week.
@@sirvince7853 L. It’s in the intro graphic overlay. I typically don’t like to share my height or size because I don’t want someone thinking just because we are the same height they should by default buy the same frame size. Preference and proportions should factor in as well.
Well I think Ibis f*cked up by discontinuing the V4 Ripley and not simply adding this V5 as, say, the Ripster - but I think what they did to the Ripmo was spot on. I do like the new V5 and that's probably what I'm going to buy, but they should have kept the V4 Ripley and simply added this Ripster (or whatever) to the lineup.
Ibis killed the Ripley. They started with the bizarre sizing scheme on the previous build (170cm = size large) now with this aggressive trail bike.. Ugh. I guess that will bring another bike to the line.
I wouldn’t knock it until you try it. Doubt there’s a new one in the lineup. The bike still fits in the trail bike slot and the exie takes XC/down country duty.
The suspension separates those two so much it makes them hard to compare. The element feels way more XC than the Ripley even if the geo isn’t that different. The Ripley feels significantly more smooth and planted in the rough.
Been waiting all week for this!
I went camping with the family, so it's a little late, but hopefully, it's worth the wait!
No explanation required. I really enjoy your take on bikes. Would love to see you ride the Revel Rascal V2 seeing as you reviewed the original and it plays in this 130mm category also.
Thanks! We no longer carry Revel bikes. Not sure we can make that one happen.
I don't care if you are camping or going to disneyland, i expect the BE reviews to be on time
Jk:) excellent stuff!!!!
I agree and don't on the great weight debate. On a shorter ride it's not really a huge factor. However, when you're 30 miles/5+ hours into a big high country ride and slogging up a steep pass you really do start to notice a heavier bike and it can really take its toll. That's probably not a "typical" ride for a lot of riders, but where I live (SW Colorado) it's every weekend for a bunch of local mountain bikers.
I also don't really buy the argument that the heavier bikes are justified because of modern riding style and trails (ie; you need a stiffer frame, fork, bigger brakes, etc.). Ya...that stuff makes the downhill more rad, but for me personally I'm riding the exact same trails that I was 20 years ago. The trail/terrain hasn't changed. I was just as fast (probably faster) on my 2016 Yeti SB4.5 that weighed 26-27 lbs. Why does my long-day high country bike now need to be 5 lbs heavier after almost 10 years of progress in engineering and design? I find the weight increases across multiple brands super frustrating.
I get it. A lighter bike can be nice but I just pedaled a 33lb bike 6000 feet today and it never felt like the bike was slowing me down. I’m not mr fitness either. And I was able to ride some amazing single track that a lighter, softer frame with flimsy tires would have made miserable. To each their own but I’m not whining about a few extra pounds.
At five hours and 5k feet of climbing you're going to be tired no matter what. Having lived in the southwest 25 years I can say most people do not ride 4-5 hour continuous rides on a regular basis. Those are more rides you do on trips or epic days. Most adult non racers don't want 5 hours of every Saturday taken up with a ride. 2-3 hours yes. 5 hours no.
Have been able to get a few rides in on the V5 and am very happy with it. Have had previous versions of the Ripley and just recently coming off a year on the Tallboy. Am not feeling any penalties at all on weight or climbing tendencies. But getting some really nice improvements on descending and overall stability. Still able to ride quick and snappy but push through rough parts of the trail with control. Excited to get some more miles on it.
Exactly. Nice to hear someone who’s ridden it commenting on how it rides!
how would you compare to the TB? was it a TB4 or a TB5?
@@OrenPerets it was a TB5. I’m still dialing some things in, but the Ripley V5 feels overall much more balanced and more grounded on descents. The weight between my two builds is essentially identical with tools, pedals, etc. Climbs on the Ripley have been great, have had no complaints at all. Am aware of the head angle difference at times, but not to the point of it getting in the way. The bike climbs very responsively, I’m very happy with it.
Gotta say I love the honest opinions you give and willingness to “piss everybody off”. And Kudos to Zach for allowing you to speak freely in the reviews and comment sections.
Love to hear it! Zach is a decent guy to work for I guess.
YES IT IS OVER BUILT! Respectfully I am going to have to disagree that weight isn't that big a deal and you should "go ride it" as it relates to this bike. The ibis Ripley has a cult following because it was unique that it could be built to a 25 lbs XC rig or 31 lb trail bike. It was down country before down country was a thing. This new Ripley is in a whole new category of bike. Its pushed right into full trail bike. Nothing wrong with that but don't dismiss the fans of the intention of the old ripley. I am sure the new one is sporty for a run of the mill 130mm bike but its no longer the same intention as previous generations .I get if people want a XC bike they will just get the exie. I think the biggest miss on this is the name. They should of called it the Mojo 5 as that was their previous trail bike. That would make alot more sense because it has the same intent as this new Ripley. Having said all that I am currently on a Revel Rascal now and I think the new Ripley looks a like a good replacement but I get why not everyone is excited about it.
Having ridden and enjoyed both the V5 and the V4 I honestly think the V5 is no worse at the things the V4 was good at. I’m not dismissing anyone wanting a sporty bike, I’m just tired of people judging a bike they’ve only seen on paper and overemphasizing the importance of weight.
@@bikersedge fair enough!
I have a Revel Rascal that I always feel a bit off on. Maybe it is me 😅 Great review. I may get one of these eventually. Thanks.
Sounds like you could just get a little stronger.
@@Hhhhkhhhhhhh What does strength have to do with ibis changing the ripley its original intention? I already ride a 130mm trail bike but I liked that the ripley could do XC or light duty trail.
It's been a while since I watched bike reviews. Love your reviews. Thank you.
Hey thanks! Glad you like them.
I can say this about BB heights and being 6'3" and 200lbs myself, 5mm higher makes a difference. I have a YT Izzo and putting it in the higher setup on the trails I ride in FL can mean completely not hitting roots with my pedals, or hitting roots with my pedals in low mode. Yeah I lose slackness in the head angle, but in FL it's not needed so I specifically leave it in high mode down here for that reason.
I understand what you mean though with being taller wanting the bike to be lower. You have to trade off one or the other in the end.
Stoked to try this out. Beautiful footage with the amazing capture of the mountains early in the video.
Hey thanks!
Love how you stand your ground when comes to your opinion! Love your work!
@@postro11111 hey thanks! Some people call it being stubborn. Ha.
You guys need to do a comparison video of the Ripley with 29" wheels Vs. MX setup. I am very interested to know how it performs with the MX setup. Thanks
Could probably make that happen. We might have some wheels floating around.
Yes, that would be rad, i also wish a coil vs air test could be done as well... im making an assumption that these new more pregressive designs might come alive with a coil
also interested in this - would open up a comparison to the mx 5010
Whatever trail you're riding in this video, I'm completely jealous. So much better than the trails I ride
This is a whole bunch of trails in the SLC area.
Brought a Orbea Alma based on your review, and after a year still love it. Always look forward to your reviews.
Thanks. Love to hear that!
Great review as usual. Tend to agree on weight...not as big of deal as most people think. Do I wish Ibis had skipped the frame storage and kept it a little lighter? Sure! Do I think I'm going to notice a pound or so difference on a ride? Really doubt it. It's literally less than the weight of a full water bottle. I switch back and forth between my 25 pound Epic Evo and my 30 pound V1 Ripmo. They obviously ride REALLY differently, but the difference in suspension travel/tire choice/geo are far more noticeable than the 5 pound difference. My Ripley arrives Thursday. Stoked!
Love the common sense take on bike weight! You’re a saint.
I totally agree with your statement about bike weight! Tires and wheels can really change your feel both climbing and descending especially if you’re getting into the mix wheel or straight 29er. Personally I think IBIS has hit that “do it all frame” that can be a changed up for your local trails and being a 160lb rider I’ve been on 36Fox forks but have landed on 34’s as a fully capable fork for my local trails and would only use my bikes with 36 at parks or steeper chunkier trails. You didn’t mention this or I missed it, but I like the IBIS rims, I think an i35mm is perfect for 2.5, 2.6” tires and tires and wheels plus,really something that changes a bike’s handling. If you’re a 2.3, 2.4” tire lover, then you could probably shed some weight with i30rims with Berd spokes as well for those longer days with tons of pedaling. That IBIS really checks✅ all the boxes.
Yeah personally I’m not a fan of 2.6” tires. That said the 2.5”s on this bike on the 35mm rims are great. The rims are pretty rough. I smacked them quite a few times and nothing bent or broke. Ha.
An honest reviewer on UA-cam, thank you
@@brucecapel-davies4113 glad you liked it!
30lb trail bike segment is pretty crowded, heck you could probably include a bunch of all-mountain bikes in the 30lbs range as well…I’ll take a 26-28lb trail bike over a similar 30+ lb trail bike all day long, I think Ibis missed a win here. But maybe there’s a Ripley SL coming 🙏.
Weight is so overrated. Hate to break it to you, but bikes are only getting heavier. People demand in-frame storage - more weight. People want stiffer forks - more weight. People want tires that don't pinch flat every ride - more weight. You can't have it all, I guess.
I’ve got plenty of bikes in the garage at all weights, I know what static and rotational weight does to a bike, and as a customer I’m telling you a 30+ lb mid-travel trail bike lost a key selling feature in my opinion.
Also as a customer I’ll take a bike that holds up to my riding style on a daily basis. To each their own. I’m not going to complain about a few extra lbs.
@RookYZRM1 Ibis still offers the Exie, which is an incredibly light and capable. It's an XC bike that punches above it's belt.
I think Ibis covered multiple segments well with its new product line up:
Exie-XC, with some lighter trail duty
Ripley V5- trail
Ripmo V3- all mountain
HD6- enduro
There are plenty of v4s for sale at 25% and on the after market if that's what you need.
I have a Giant Trance Advanced with GX AXS (xx1 cranks though) and dt swiss exc1501 (trail, not xc) carbon wheels at 28lbs. People sleep on that bike way too much. But it's awesome WITHOUT the live valve
I feel the V5 Ripley is now an actual Trail bike. Where as the previous version felt like it was teetering on the XC side.
I’d agree. Except it didn’t give up much if anything on the climbs.
Love the paint job on this one! The dirt-like splashes make it look ridden without actually riding it!
Serious note: Agree regarding bike weight. Having a higher 'capability limit' is worth the slightly higher weight
The mud splatter paint is super custom.
Great, honest review. I especially appreciate your "Who is this bike for?" comments.
Hey thanks! Glad you liked it.
Thanks for another great review. Sizing on this frame is tough. It’s a frame I’d like to build up for next season but am stuck on the sizing. Every bike I’ve ever been on has been a L and the longer the reach the better the bike has felt. I’m a hair under 6’ but with very long arms and I like to feel them stretched out a bit. Current fav bike’s geo has a reach of 480 and it’s a L frame with a 50mm stem (A Spur). If I go by Ibis’s numbers on the geo chart pretty sure I’d be on an XM. I think lots of folks are going to have sizing questions for Ibis on this one.
@@mkrj2576 agreed. The sizing is a bit tricky. I normally ride XL but went with a L in this and it felt like an XL.
I would really like to see a Ripley vs 5010 MX showdown, and I would be very interested to hear your opinions. I am torn between the two 🥊
That would be pretty fun! Let me see what I can do.
@@bikersedge both with a 150mm fork, fun factor through the roof!
At that point, are you just better off with a Ripmo vs Bronson?
@@bikersedgeThat is a very good point. Honestly I have this notion in my head that a mx wheel 140 frame with a 150 fork is the perfect bike and anything over that is excessive for what I need. If I were to choose to eventually go full 29 130/140 then at least that option isn’t off the table. What’s your thoughts?
@@bikersedgeI’ll also add that Santa Cruz and these new Ibis frame designs reign supreme in the aesthetic department and offer the option for mx wheel. I’m looking forward to the Ripmo Ripley showdown
One of the still reviewers I still trust on you tube.
Love to hear it!
I’m all for taller BB’s on larger frames. I ride mostly hand built singletrack that is very rocky/rooty. I don’t like ratcheting my cranks up entire tech sections of trail that I didn’t have to on older bikes. I feel like bikes are being built with flow trails or road climbs with long coasting descents in mind as opposed to pedal heavy trails. That’s what 120mm trail bikes are for. Instead they just keep getting turned into downhill shredders that happen to have a good pedaling platform. Guess I gotta just go with XC race rigs now.
I love the new rip!!! Yeah it’s not the v4 but it’s now a super capable trail bike that can run blacks with ease. If you want the v4 try an epic evo 8. Great bike and as always great review!
Hey thanks! I don’t think the v5 is really any worse at the stuff the v4 was good at. Yup it’s heavier, but if you didn’t know it you could never really tell. It’s still quick and zippy.
Really love your guys’ reviews! Your reviews helped me purchase (from you guys!) my Ripley AF earlier this year. I’m loving it.
So stoked you find them helpful.
How does the Ripley V5 compare to the Ripley AF?
There was somthing "romantic" about the Ripley and Ripmo being their own individual bikes, designed from the ground up for different purposes. Im sure pragmatically it wont make a difference, but also seems kind of like a cost saving measure. But if it allows them to keep it at a good price point, im all for it. Im also not sold on in-frame storage. If you have to reinforce the frame for weakening its design in the first place just for a place for your multitool and beer money, is it really worth it?
Yeah seeing two completely different platforms is nice. That said these ride very different from one another even on the same frame. Kinematics feel very different and the build separates them too.
Thanks for the thoughtful and detailed review. I am curious about the new Ripley vs. the Pivot 429 Enduro. Seems like brands are working to get more "in between" the former "trail" and "all mountain" categories.
Agree with you on frame weight. A simple test for anyone: Do you think your bike is more capable at the end of the ride because your water bottle is empty? A full bottle weighs 2 lbs, so you shed that off the "frame weight" as you ride, but I doubt anyone notices this difference.
Finally someone with a proper perspective on bike weight! Haha.
Someone throw this guy a free Ripley!
WITH a water bottle
😂
Light wheels and tires through 🤌
Unless you're sweating buckets or pouring your water on the ground, I'm pretty sure that weight sticks around for the ride whether it be on the bike or your body lol.
@@TheIggyTech I'm in the sweating buckets camp myself. Occasionally, I'll take a break for a quick pee on a tree, too.
Excellent review! I really appreciated all the detailed analysis and the comparisons at the end. Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
I would love to see the Ripley tested with a 36 in the ripmo vs Ripley show down. As a bigger guy, I want the extra support but still want the pedaling efficiency and handling of the shorter travel bike.
Could be cool.
Great review, what camera are you using these days on the rides?
Thanks! HERO 12
Great in depth honest review. Im gonna hang on to my Ripley AF.
Maybe Ibis slacks out the Exie in a few years.
Glad you liked it! I really like the ibis lineup right now. Not a ton of overlap between bikes and each one fills its spot nicely.
Great video. Any thoughts to how the Ripley V5 compares with the Santa Cruz Tallboy? I'm also considering the Yeti SB140.
It’s closer to a tallboy than it used to be. It’s still on the “trail” side of the tallboy. It climbs quicker and is more sporty on the descents.
@@bikersedge Thanks for the feedback. Can't wait to try it out. The Ripley V5 might be the one I've been waiting for. I'm a bigger guy too, so "climbs quicker" is definitely a factor in the final decision.
It's like Ibis read my mind, the old ripley af was geometrical capable but the suspension couldn't keep up with the frame. The numbers are right where it should be. I also have every confidence that this bike is going to handle incredibly well and will still pedal great.
Finally someone who isn’t complaining about this based purely on something some guy on some forum said. Ha!
Howdy Conor. You’ve got a real knack for this bike review thing. I’d appreciate your insight here, I’ve got a Forbidden Dreadnought V1 XL for beating the snot out of at bike parks, but I need something to make my local (boring) blue flow trails more fun and make climbing less of a chore. I’m a big dude, 6’6, and absolutely hate (suck at) climbing. Mix of techy climbs and fire roads. 500-510 reach with proportional chainstays ideally. Thinking mullet to keep the fun factor, but does that sabotage efficiency uphill? Thinking Banshee Phantom, 5010, Tallboy, new Top Fuel, any other bikes I should take a look at? How much travel is your sweet spot for tackling big climbs but still being able to hit blues and the occasional single black feature on the way down? Dread handles double black duties. Thanks man, appreciate all your hard work, it’s beyond helpful.
@@patrickc2851 thanks! I appreciate the kind words. As a tall guy I don’t know if mullet will be the best option for you. I’d probably stick with 29. I really like 150mm bikes for doing everything. If you’re mostly on blues and blacks though that might be overkill. Something in the 130 range would probably be better suited for blues.
How did you feel about that in-line Fox shock? I really striggled with a DPS and would have preferred to see a DPX2 or another piggyback on the rear.
I think it’s fitting and appropriate for the category. I struggled with setup but once I got it dialed it felt great.
I have the new Float on my Giant Trance Advanced, its a really nice and smooth shock.
fun review, good as always. you mention "bigger person on 140mm fork". bought an Occam 130mm FOX 34 (thanks to one of your reviews). I put a 140mm air spring in it, which gave enough travel, but also showed a bit of flex in the fork. Now I'm on an SC Bronson with Fox 36 165mm fork... bigger fork, I don't notice flex... kitted out, I'm 6' and 220lbs... seems like if they put a 140mm FOX 36 on here for bigger riders, it wouldn't change the bike that much... am I wrong? maybe for the expense of swapping out the fork, it would be worth just buying a Ripmo, but you mention a noticeable difference in the Ripmo climb ability... I'm thinking of Trail 429 Enduro with a Fox 36 140mm fork... or is this all splitting hairs? Feels tougher and tougher to pedal the Bronson up hill these days and despite 2 years of learning, the Bronson is still WAY more capable than I ever will be... thinking of dropping back down to a 130mm / 140mm bike... but I don't like the flex in the Fox 34 forks... thoughts? ideas?
I think you’re spot on. I’m about 200 and definitely prefer a 36 over a 34. If I had a Ripley I’d put a 36 on it. It will weigh more but I don’t think it’s going to hurt the climbing performance substantially.
@@bikersedge thank you. I really enjoy and appreciate your reviews. fun and useful
@@bikersedge thanks!!
@@bikersedge thanks again!
Is this a comparison to the AF as well?
I love the AF as it gave me extra from what I wanted from an original ripley. Any thoughts?
This is a comparison to the V4 carbon, not the AF. The AF is closer to the V5, but I still think the V5 makes some improvements on the DH.
I’ll stick with my Ripley AF With a fox 36 on the front at 140mm. I think this is a killer bike, especially at 30 pounds the way I built it
Not a bad option.
did you keep the stock shock on it, just wondering if the rear shock on the AF can be beefed up
@@mprox3431 yes I have a stock rear shock..thought about going with a different one not a lot of options.
Sorry if you answered this already; having ridden the Ripley (AF) and a tallboy v4, i really enjoyed both. I’ve not been on either of the newest models. If you were to spend your own money on either as an all-rounder, which would it be. Have to pick one….haha
@@ChaseAdams-f4h the new Ripley is a great all around option. Almost as capable as the TB on the DH and climbs very well. It would probably be my pick.
Really interesting direction that they took this bike. I thought the quickness/snappiness of the older versions is what defined the Ripley and now that is gone. Maybe the Exie will come fill that void.
Certainly hasn’t lost it.
a few days late on this so my question is how does it compare to the ripley af from 2021.. You guys did a great video on the AF and said basically that is was much better downhill than the carbon version of the ripley. Thanks for the videos they really help to decide what bike may be the one when the option of demos are limited
@@mprox3431 it’s been a while since I’ve ridden the AF. I still think this new Ripley descends better than the AF.
Hey! I'm new to your channel -- really great video! Quick question for you regarding setup: Did your Ripley V5 come with one or two fork volume spacers, and did you remove one or both of them? Or did you remove the volume spacer from the rear shock?! It wasn't totally clear to me in the video. Thanks!
I didn't remove any fork volume spacers. I believe one comes stock. I removed the shock spacer.
@@bikersedge Thank you for the info! Much appreciated!
Of course!
How does this bike compare to the current Ripley AF? Thank you!
It’s been so long since I’ve ridden the AF. Tough to say for sure. I think this is a bit smoother on the DH. The suspension refinements are pretty drastic between this and previous models.
@@bikersedge Thank you! I love this new bike, but carbon is typically out of my price range. Maybe an AF version will come out soon. Always looking for a good do-it-all bike.
@outsider1733 yeah it would be cool to see AF versions with the new design. If you’re looking for something new you could check out Orbea. They do a great job with alloy frames. The Occam SL would be similar to a Ripley.
@@bikersedge Thanks! Orbea hasn't been on my radar. I'll check them out.
What’s your take on big reach when you’re out of the saddle?
@@alexsinbb I mean that’s when it’s most beneficial in terms of stability and confidence. I personally like longer reaches for my style of riding and our trails.
Great review, as always! Can you compare to the 5010, which I believe you owned?
Thanks. I answered that one in the comments earlier. Go check those out.
Always a great review Conner!! You know me, I'm pushing 7000 miles on my Ripmo V2 now so I've considered getting the Ripley, but then again I can always go Ripmo V3 and then make it a Ripley, that's the beauty of this bike, it is so versatile!!! Also, I'm with you on the BB and I'm 6'4". 👊
The versatility is awesome!
the ripley v5 or the sc tallboy???
v4
Just sold my Tallboy and bought the new Ripley and am very happy. Am not feeling a penalty on climbing but getting some big improvements on the descent.
Excellent review, thank you! Having only ridden the V2 Ripmo and V4 Ripley, I took a chance and ordered a V5 Ripley from my LBS on the day it was released. I went with the XM size as I am 5'10" with a 31" inseam. Hopefully, it will be a good fit. Regarding the problem you had getting into the mid and end stroke of the rear shock. Would you mind sharing your weight? I'm guessing you're on the lighter side since you removed a volume spacer.
I weigh 205. Definitely not on the light side. I’d also argue the terrain I rode this on (not filmed) is quite a bit more demanding that what most folks who buy a Ripley will be riding. I think the spacer for the shock is just too big. I rarely have trouble getting into the travel on a bike but I struggled here for a bit.
Interested to hear anything you report back on frame size and how it works. I’m same dimensions and am thinking about the XM.
What do you think about this version of the Ripley vs the Giant Trance 29? 10 mm more travel make a huge difference?
@@timmcdermott815 I don’t think it’s necessarily the extra 10 of travel that make the huge difference but rather the geo and suspension kinematics. The Ripley is far more capable than the Trance. The Trance blurs that line between XC and trail. The Ripley is squarely in the trail category.
@@bikersedge Cool, thanks for the reply!
What do you think about the v5 Ripley vs Rocky Mountain Element? I am on an Element as my trail bike, running it at 140mm. I love how the RM pedals but lacks some fun factor on the DH. How much uphill performance would I be giving up?
The Ripley and element have similar geo but the suspension feel is very different. The element is very XC and the Ripley is way more trail. I think you’re giving up a significant amount on the climbs going with the Ripley but you’re also gaining a similar amount on the DH.
How would you say it compares to the Revel Rascal?
It’s been at least 4 years since I’ve ridden that. Couldn’t say.
@@bikersedge no worries! Thanks for the reply. Best bike reviews out there! 🙌
@johnshannon5997 hey thanks!
Compared to the old one, this bike is far from nimble-it's not even close. But can you really expect an unbiased opinion from someone who reviews bikes for a living? Lol
And you’ve ridden it to make this judgement?
This bike is still very nimble. Quick to turn and react on the trail, more stable on the descent when the trail gets rough.
Honestly I thought you were going to say this is your favorite short travel bike ever. Sounds pretty legit though.
Competes with the Revel Rascal. I think the 130/140 travel category is perfect for majority of riders
The capable short travel category is the most exciting bike category right now imo
It’s up there on short travel bikes for me. I still really like the 5010 and the Spur hits a sweet spot for the category for me.
Amazing review as usual! Such a versatile bike, how would you stack this against the Tallboy v5? Thanks
Hey thanks. I’ve made that comparison a few times in the comments. Go check those out.
So, discussing this review with a fellow rider, and we're curious if you can say more about your comparison to the Occam SL. I've ridden neither, but it seems a bit counter-intuitive that the Occam SL is a "faster" and more "XC" climber, but with 140mm of rear travel. Can you say anything more about that, especially as it compares to the Ripley v5 (or even Ripley v4 or another bike brand)? We're just trying to get a full sense of what you meant.
Also, what are your thoughts on the Occam SL's headset routing? Is it as bad as everyone is making it out to be?
The Occam has more travel but doesn’t feel like it. It’s very firm and pedally. It’s less capable than the Ripley on the descents. And yes personally I really dislike headset cable routing. It’s an added headache with the only benefit being aesthetics.
@@bikersedge thank you for the reply. This helps!
Has ibis come out and said if they’ll sell the link to convert the frame between Ripley and Ripmo? Thats a huge selling point if I can get 2 bikes out of the same frame
Yup. The parts are on their site. Just looks like they're currently out of stock. You'd need a shock too.
How do you think this bike would do on a race like the Leadville 100?
Not too familiar but I think I’ve seen a lot of folks on gravel or drop bar bikes for that one? The Ripley would likely be overkill. More comfortable but potentially quite a bit slower.
I agree 100 percent about the weight of the bike heavier is better
I like the benefits of heavier duty frames and components - durability, reliability, stiffness.
I was thinking of getting a new smuggler but now that you compared these you'd say that if the trails are more 50/50 up/down you think the Ripley is the way to go?
I think the Ripley pedals a bit better, but the biggest difference is on the DH.
What's the verdict on the Ripley V5 vs the Tallboy V5?
I’ve answered than one a few times in the comments. Go check those out.
I've clocked that you're roughly 6'2", how did you feel size wise on the new Large geo? I know everything isn't just about reach but it's hard not to notice that it is significantly longer than your average Large
I would not even consider the XL in this. And I almost always ride XL.
I agree with you on the BB situation I don't see how it benefits taller riders.
@@TomCollins-c4h I kind of understand the argument for BB clearance but a little skill and technique eliminates the need for more BB clearance.
@@bikersedge Very true, the argument is personal preference vs skill.
Off topic but what 130ish mm trail bike would you recommend for southern Utah? Smuggler, Hightower or something different?
It depends on the trails you would like to ride there. Personally, I want a big bike for southern Utah for trails. If you're on some of the more pedally stuff a Ripley could be good. I really liked riding the Instinct down there. The Trance X is great, too, if you want quick, nimble, and balanced.
The answer is yes. Weight doesn't just affect climbing capability, it affects your ability to move the bike around and lift it over rocks, roots, etc. Admittedly, I haven't ridden this bike, but it's not what I was hoping for.
Have you ridden one?
@@bikersedge hah, no. Just not a fan of the current trend of making every bike an enduro bike. This thing could have been an EWS bike seven years ago. I know bike manufacturers have to change their lineup to stay relevant, but I think they're starting to overshoot the mark.
Tough to judge a bike without having ridden one. Can confirm this rides nothing like an enduro bike or even a mini-enduro bike. It's still an excellent climber and a zippy, lively trail bike. the few extra lbs. are hardly noticeable.
@@bikersedgebut have you seen the specs! It clearly can be ridden on mellow trails ;)
I miss my v4. What it needed was a little more rear travel for modern stuff. Im maybe 180lbs and I'd occasionally g out or clap hard in the back. I was concerned about it braking so i let that be another excuse to its sale. I regret that.
I'd love to own the new Ripley or Ripmo.
Don't sell your dream bike.
This one might be just the ticket for you.
Which would you say is the more efficient climber between the V5 ripley and Santa Cruz Tallboy? What % difference in your opinion?
@@Avocado43-q73 new Ripley is still more efficient. By a decent amount.
Interesting! And you would agree with the statement that the TB is still the more capable descender? Great review BTW. Helps out folks who can’t demo bikes!
@@Avocado43-q73 I think the gap between them on the descents is minimal now. I’d have to do some back to back to really know.
So ripley v5 or santa cruz 5010???
I want to feel more bmxish but still want a stable downcountry beast and a fast climber.
Does the ripley have any similar characteristics to the 5010? Ive tested the 5010 and loved it but I would hate to regret it on my longer rides. I have a 22 instinct and a chameleon in my stable at the moment for reference.
Help me decide haha
@@Rich2wheels I wouldn’t describe either one of those as “downcountry.” They’re both competent climbers but far from being the fastest. If you want stable enough while being lively and fun on the DH both certainly fit the bill.
I am no expert but I am surprised they made the size longer than the V2. At 6'2" I prefer the V2-XL, the L feels too short and does not climb as well. I also slide off the pedals more, not sure why. The DH felt squirlier but maybe I could get used to that. But turning was quicker.
In the V3, my size would now be a L which has geo that is longer then my V2-XL, and that would be too big for sure.
The reach and wheelbase grow but other bike proportions also change. Things like seat tube and chainstay lengths. I rode the L in the V3 where I’d be on an XL in the V2. I’d ride one before you wrote if off. The L V3 might be a great fit.
Sure, that's possible, but not ready to let go my V2 steed yet ;) it's such a good bike for my techy up down trails.
I should add that from a practicality standpoint, my V2 just fits in my EVOC travel bag, it wont accept longer. Plus, it is at the limit the oversize surplus fee. So longer and heavier has importabt drawbacks for me.
@user-kt9fw2zy9v that’s a good point. Bike bags are pretty tough with modern bikes.
Was this the "new" V5 Large size?
Also, did your test bike have aluminum or carbon rims?
Thanks. Enjoyed the review!
Yes size L. Alloy wheels. Completely stock XT build.
Why pick this over Yeti SB120?
For what this new Ripley weighs, I'd take the Tallboy any day because it is the standard for downhill composure for short travel tail bikes and better uphill on technical terrain. If I wanted a bike that climbs just as good as the Ripley on smooth trails but ALOT better on technical terrain, and still even better downhill, I'd stick to the Pivot Trail 429. Downhill, there's no comparison since the 429 is only second to the Tallboy for short-travel trail bikes. I think Ibis took a "me too" type of approach to have it compete with the newer Yeti 120 and Pivot Trail 429 as climbers that bomb downhill too. My friends that own the V4 Ripley are sticking to it & will not be upgrading to this new version. This will be a bike for new Ripley customers.
I think the gap between the tallboy and Ripley just got a lot smaller. Still think the Ripley is quicker uphill, though in both smooth and technical terrain.
the ripley v5 or sc tallboy???
I think the gap between them is a bit smaller than it used to be. The Ripley still feels sportier and quicker overall especially on the climbs. The TB still feels a bit more capable.
@@bikersedge Wow. TB still more capable feeling?! I just demo'd a tb and loved it. Going to replace my revel ranger with either TB or new Ripley. Need to demo a ripley.
@@matthart2701 the suspension on the TB is just plusher and feels deeper. Otherwise they’re fairly similar in capability.
@@bikersedge The TB does feel deep. Coming from the ranger Im leaning towards the more agile and better climber of the two bikes since both will be significantly more capable than my ranger.
Great reviews. Get well. Shoulder issues suck
I don't know about my bike shop, I brought my wheel in for them to look at the hub for making noises on last Thursday. They said it would be fixed over the weekend, so I called yesterday (Tuesday) at 2:00pm and they said they were working on it right now. They close at 6:00 pm and open at 10:00am and its still not done almost a week later. Do you think these guys are burning me?
Tough to know. Shops can get pretty backed up in the busy season. Creaks and sounds can be very tricky to diagnose and replicate in a shop too.
@@bikersedge Thanks for the reply, I noticed this happens every time with them. They say it will be done on a certain date and its always days later, its really bumming me out.
@user-rj9ui3sz8u well if you’re local we’d be more than happy to help you out!
@@bikersedge Thanks! I appreciate that, unfortunately I'm in a small town in California. I wish we had a bike shop like yours here.
@@bikersedge Finally got my wheel back, turns out the creaking noise I had all that time were bad bearings in the hub. Now it rides like a different bike, more snappy feeling, crazy.
Hello, i'm looking for a full suspension bike as my only bike, could this be this it? And if not, do you have some suggestions?
Depends on what you like to ride but yes this could fit the bill. You could also look at the Ripmo if you want something just a bit burlier.
I'd love to have it. Frame only $3500 is going to stop me though. I'm pretty happy with the AF I ride.
The AF is also rad.
Dors it hurt to put a 36 150mm fork for a bigger rider or is 140 the better option?
At that point you might be better off with a Ripmo.
Ibis states it's compatible with a 130 - 150mm fork on their website under the FAQ section. They confirmed for me that a 150mm fox 36 would be fine.
@@JukasZor , yeah, you'll be fine. But again, at that point, are you better off on a Ripmo?
I am a huge fan of your vids 👍I can see a lot of people complaining about weight and burly. Well, I have a ripmo af and giant trance 29 Allux 😅 so I think you guys are complaining too much 😅. I do want to ride this bike and for what I can see. Probably is not going to be so light weight like the V4 but I think is going to be more versatile so I do believe it’s worth to buy it and coming from a ripmo and trance allux for my i am not going to have any problem 😅😅😅by the way , I bought all my bikes because of your vids and suggestions 😅 so yes I’m a big fan of your vids 😊😊 Thanks 😊 ✅
Thanks! Love hearing the positive feedback.
if you replace the linkage, could you turn a ripley into a ripleyMo, or vice versa, a RipmoLey?
Yes. Link and shock will do the trick.
Ripley v5 vs SC 5010?
5010 rides bigger and is more DH focused. The Ripley is more trail.
Pretty slack HTA for a short travel bike, seems to work though.
Yeah it’s about .5° slacker than most of the other bikes in its category.
Is there a 2024 Pivot switchblade from you?
Nope. We don’t carry pivot.
Seems like the V5 Ripley and the Scor 2030 would be a fun comparo.
I’d love to ride one of those.
@@bikersedge I own one and I can’t believe how good it is. Best cornering bike with poppy predictability that I’ve ever ridden. Surprisingly very fast. These two bikes (Ripley) are very similar in build and geo. I think they’d be a great comparison.
3:30 which trail area/region is this?
@@51249ca little cottonwood canyon
See, the problem is, you test bikes mostly the same way, climb up an then bomb down and that’s not what the Ridley used to be about. Of course the new one is going to feel better in your applications, however I bet YOUR paycheck that if you ride that bike in what it used to be it’s intended trails - tight switchbacks, etc, you’ll quickly find out that weight does matter and thus the old is better than the new one.
This online fallacy that weight is not that important is crap and it must stop. I would never take my enduro rig or an unnecessarily heavy trail bike to a switchbacky up-down punchy trail.
I ride bikes in a lot of terrain that I don’t film for these videos. I ride plenty of punchy, rolling climbs with tight turns and less high speeds. I still think weight is completely blown out of proportion.
@@bikersedge True that weight weenies can whine too much about weight, however ride a 25lb Ripley at Alafia State Park and then ride a 30lb new Ripley/Ripmo and tell me weight doesn’t matter. Don’t get me wrong, I like the feeling of a sure footed solid feeling bike but when that bike is slowing you down because of the weight m, that’s where I draw the line.
Different strokes for different folks. I’ll take the ride quality, durability and reliability of what a heavier duty frame and components provide over weight savings every day of the week.
@@bikersedge I get it, you’re the slow guy!! lol just messing with you man.
What about comparing this to the Tallboy v5? Now the Ripley is stouter of a frame it slots in with the Tallboy being the "Downhillers XC Bike"
@@sirvince7853 I’ve made that comparison a few times in the comments. Go check for those.
@@bikersedge What size did you ride? I don't think I heard you say.
@@sirvince7853 L. It’s in the intro graphic overlay. I typically don’t like to share my height or size because I don’t want someone thinking just because we are the same height they should by default buy the same frame size. Preference and proportions should factor in as well.
Kind of sounds like a 29er Mojo 4. Sounds like a lot of fun!
It’s a ton of fun.
A 150mm 36/Lyric + a Float X on this would be 👌
Could be cool. At that point is a Ripmo better?
@@bikersedge Depends on where you live/ride and if you have anything else in your quiver I guess!
We need more serious bikes for riders wanting 27.5!
Yeti launched an SB135 recently. Plenty serious.
Ripley V5 or Tallboy V5?
I’ve answered that one a few times in the comments. Go check those out.
Well I think Ibis f*cked up by discontinuing the V4 Ripley and not simply adding this V5 as, say, the Ripster - but I think what they did to the Ripmo was spot on. I do like the new V5 and that's probably what I'm going to buy, but they should have kept the V4 Ripley and simply added this Ripster (or whatever) to the lineup.
@@furion.. have you ridden the V5? Tough to judge a book by its cover.
Finally!
Sorry for the delay. Went camping with the family. I like them more than you. Ha.
@@bikersedge only kidding of course. did you try out the ergon ga3 grips yet?
Haven’t tried them yet. I’ve been camping…
If you want your bb lower just ride 27.5 on a 29er frame!
Or 24 for extreme ground hugging 😂
What about 20? Or even 16?
Great insight.. 👏🙂👍
Why thank you.
Ripley V5… a 29” Mojo 4?
Ibis killed the Ripley. They started with the bizarre sizing scheme on the previous build (170cm = size large) now with this aggressive trail bike..
Ugh.
I guess that will bring another bike to the line.
I wouldn’t knock it until you try it. Doubt there’s a new one in the lineup. The bike still fits in the trail bike slot and the exie takes XC/down country duty.
Ibis Ripley vs Rocky Mountain Element. You praised that bike…
The suspension separates those two so much it makes them hard to compare. The element feels way more XC than the Ripley even if the geo isn’t that different. The Ripley feels significantly more smooth and planted in the rough.
@@bikersedge Thx sir 👍
Of course.
Hey Dude, can̈ I ask what saddles you orefer and do you go for s/m or m/l?
I’m not too picky with saddles. I end up riding so many different kinds my butt is pretty used to just about anything. Big fan of the WTB Volt.
@@bikersedge thanks dude. What is your preferred size m/l or s/m?
Sounds like the Ripmo V1, honestly. And if you liked the V4, maybe you wait for the new Exie? And if you like the old Exie…well maybe you are SOL
I think the V1 sits between the current Ripley and Ripmo.
@@bikersedge hmm…that is where I put the Pivot Trail 429 after I rode it. That would be an interesting match up.