The previous Ripley V4 was a special bike. Probably my favorite bike of all time!! Do you think Ibis made the right choice bumping the travel to 130/140mm and beefing up the frame almost 2 pounds? Comment below!
Ibis has the Exie for the short travel XC riders. I think it makes sense that the Ripley now becomes the quintessential 'short travel' trail bike. Exie for XC, Ripley for Trail, Ripmo for All mountain and HD6 for Enduro.
Nope, if I wanted a bike that could hang with the Ripmo, I’d get a Ripmo. The v4 had that special sauce that made it loved by all who owned one. This is like a Ripmo-lite. Not what I’m personally looking for but I’m sure it works for others.
I own a V4 Ripley (mostly because the DW Link provides the best platform for the climbing efficiency that I need here in Boise and because of Jason's glowing reviews) and think it is one of the most capable all around bikes EVER! To that end, I agree that is sad to see its retirement. However, when you look at the bicycle arms race and the trends in the "Trail" category with bikes going with a bit longer suspension , slacker HT and longer wheel base (and yes, frame storage), it comes as no real surprise that Ibis would have to counter punch with these updates to my beloved Ripley. Thankfully they've done it to perfection . . . exactly what you'd expect from Ibis! Once again, great review Jason . . . keep'em comin'!!!
Excellent video, Jason! Super fun and interesting to hear your perspective… to me, This is by far the best Ripley they’ve ever done- which is also indicative of how crazy different our preferences are! Hope all is well, looking forward to seeing your future videos!
Thanks! I watched your video straight away. As always, very good! It's crazy to see how you can just move the bike around almost effortlessly... such a powerful rider. I'm very small. 142 lbs right now haha and not very strong. Been riding for over 30 years now including racing for that long... xc racing. My preference is always lighter faster bikes. My current favorite, the one I grab almost every morning, is the Cannondale Scalpel. 23 lbs!!
Your comment doesn't make sense. You said it's the best, ok, based what? just what you heard? Or do you own one, did you demo it, what? if you are going to say something back it up with something like everyone else does on this thread.
The industry just goes round and round. Last year, it was all down country, now we're headed back to trail bikes. Next everything will become enduro again, and then we'll circle back to cross country and start the whole thing over again. That said, both the V4 and V5 seem great.
Ripmo + Ripley offspring. Seems to be exactly what Ibis was aiming for, given the geo and travel/suspension spec. Your enthusiasm is one of your best qualities, and to see it go mach chicken reviewing this new Ripley was a super fun!
haha yep! Been having a blast on this bike... pretty different from the previous Ripley and heavy... sad to see this big of a change but I think a lot of people will really like the new Ripley and benefit from it's strengths despite the huge change in the bike.
Thanks to you Jason about 5 months ago I pulled the trigger and bought the V4 and couldn’t be happier. I purchased it in the bad apple red color and get many compliments. For all the differences you pointed out, I would have no desire to get the V5.
So glad to hear!! Tyler and I recently spent time on the V4s Ripley and would just laughing the entire time. What an incredible bike!! Fun factor through the roof and climbs like no other!!
I think we’ve pretty much reached the peak of what a bike can do. Suspension can only be developed so much before you can’t go any further. Kinematics and gravity and bumps will have a finite limit at some point. And that’s why all bikes are starting to look the same now… The rear has a path of travel. How many times can you reinvent that before you find the pinnacle sweet spot? Not that many!
I feel like Jason is trying to convince himself that he really likes this bike, just the feeling I get. It's gonna be awesome, it's an Ibis, but the V4 was just more fun right?
Yeah, considering your initial review, the comments, and what I expected from the new Ripley - I am soooo glad that I pulled the trigger on the Rocky Mountain Element.
@@jimnarvel9794 we race the state series in West Virginia. I switched to a Ripley from a 100mm Scott Spark because our courses have some pretty legit downhills with massive rock gardens and drops. I’m still running the stock Fox setup, the 130mm is probably just slightly more than I need but I don’t think it really hampers me, I’ve been really happy with the fork. Running full AXS XX1 drivetrain and AXS dropper, Enve bars, stem and M6 wheels (went with the M6 over the M5 for the wider rim) For tires I’m running a Vitoria Barzo / Mezcal combo and have been really happy with their performance. I also run a Vitoria airliner in each tire so I can run low pressures and so I can ditch a tube when I’m racing. Bike comes in at 25lbs with pedals and bottle cage in an XL
Love J's reviews and assume we'll see Ripmo V3 review soon. Not sure if you mentioned it but the Ripley V5 and Ripmo v3 are the same exact carbon frame as eachother, just different linkage parts. This had to be a cost savings measure by Ibis, and although that setup is fine for the Ripmo it's a bummer for Ripley owners because the frame is built essentially to enduro standards and therefore as you mentioned almost 2 pounds heavier. Queue the weight weenie comments but one of the main reasons to have a shorter travel bike is because they are lighter, better pedalling, etc.
I’m a huge fan of the previous Ripley but I’m disappointed in the added frame weight all because Ibis has chosen to consolidate the platform and use identical front and rear triangles for both the Ripley and the Ripmo with just different linkage. The v5 could easily still be light and snappy even at 140/130mm had they chosen to optimize the Ripley as its own bike.
@@mtbyumyum yeah definitely a money thing. They don't have to have separate molds and tooling. Just get one frame off the rack and build either bike who knows in one day there might be two distinct frames once again, but maybe not.
I look at it less as a step forward or a step backward and more of just a step. I completely agree with you though, the V4 was a very special bike! This one is just more of the same…. You can find a bike like this in almost any manufacturer these days.
I sold my brother on the outgoing model v4s I’m glad! much more aimed at the type of trails we ride. I’m sure the new one will be just great for so many conditions
I have a feeling the V4 was the perfect size for it to be a trail bike with some xcountry spirit. Stable and agile and light enough to be a xcountry bike with great climbing capabilities and with enough travel for trails and decent descends. I may also be bias because I own a Ripley V4, but I love my Ripley it’s just perfect for trails in many ways. Great video like always, blessings 🙏🏼.
Light weight and zippy short travel trail bikes are where I lean and the market is leaving me behind. Guess I’m into the new breed of cross county bikes now haha.
@@dav31078 Exactly what I was about to say, Pivot cycles never disappoint. Running a Shadowcat mullet with a Fox 34 and it's mind blowing. Also have a Firebird mullet for bike park / shuttle duties. Both lightweight in their respective category
Half way through the vid and I’m thinking how good this bike looks. So much better looking than the old one. Also Jason always seems pumped to be on a Ripley. Great energy and very good description and feedback. I have the new stumpy frame sitting in my garage and I’m looking at this bike drooling.
I owned a ripmo years ago and the Ripley 4. The ripmo I would describe as ugly, cparticularly in the old ibis color schemes. It rode so good though. The Ripley was never ugly, but I certainly was never in to the curved top tube at all. This one looks like a mini HD6 and I love that! But to each their own.
I always thought their old designs were kind of ugly, and this new one looks snappy clean, I like it but you're right it does look good like the pivots and yetis 👍
I love my v4. But it’s my only bike and I got it when I lived in a different area with flatter terrain. I’m excited to throw a leg over the new v5. My riding has become more biased to ripping on the down so excited to see what the changes feel like. But I hear you on mourning the zippy pop of the v4 - it’s one of the reasons I have not considered a new bike in the past 5 years!
The Ripley is now a Ripmo and a Ripmo is now a Ripmo-mo.. and there is no more Ripley.. Makes complete sense since every single bike needs to pretend its an enduro bike. Glad I still have my V4
I have both the v4s ripley and the v2s ripmo, and I feel both bikes are amazing for their roles and abilities. This new ripley would be a great bike in-between, but I don't think they should stop making the ripley v4s. Personally, I love my ripley, it's like a off road sports car. If things get ruff, I like the ripmo v2s how it is. The reason I got the ripley was because of how well it climbed and how fast it is. It's not just fast, but it's easy to move around the trails in a fun, playful manner. I personally think ibis should make all 3. I can't wait to try the v5, I believe the yeti sb140, trail 429, and revel rascal v2 would be good bikes for one bike to do everything. I just feel the ibis ripley v4s handles 80% to 90% of my trails so we'll it's hard to see it go. The ripley is a better bike for dupont, or most south eastern trails, ripmo is better for bike parts.
Yeah, you're not wrong... having ridden the new V5 Ripley that past 2 weeks, they really could keep the V4 in the lineup between the Exie and V5 ripley....
Just pulled the trigger on a Pivot 429 4 days ago. I saw this video pop up and my heart sunk like a made a huge error......I now don't regret doing the Pivot. I looked hard at the Ripley V4, but at my 200+lbs in kit and the fairly uggo color options (drywall???) I went for the 429. (yumyum's previous favorite bike I believe...)
While haven’t ridden it I noticed the reach and top tube are nearly identical (at least in size Medium) to the v2 Medium Ripmo which I currently ride. I probably would love this bike as for me the v4 Ripley was noticeably less capable than the Ripmo for steep descents. However the Ripmo has always been slightly more bike than I need. I was quite comfortable with the Yeti SB130 but preferred the ride feel of the Ripmo better (when I was in the market 3 years ago). This is probably the ideal bike for me but I will not be getting a new bike anytime soon. I try for 10 years every time I upgrade (if the bike lasts that long). Thanks for a great review.
Yeah, if the previous Ripley wasn't quite enough bike and the old Ripmo was just a bit too much, you are the exact person this new Ripley was built for! I think you'll be very impressed with it. Better suspension feel than the previous Ripmo and it's much more easy going than the Yeti SB130 or 140... the rear end of the new Ripley is incredible and second to non... so buttery smooth!!
Excellent review, Jason! I recently bought a heavily discounted (40% off!) Ripley V4 to fill the "downcountry" void in my quiver, and I absolutely love it. It might my my favorite bike ever. I also ride a SB130 as my all-mountain choice, so the V5 Ripley does not appeal me at this time. But I do think the V5 would meet the need for someone who is seeking a single, "do-it-all" ride.
Congrats on the new bike! Yeah, I think this V5 Ripley will be an excellent options for anyone previously on a Ripmo and felt it was just a little too much bike...
Could you pretty please, for a scoop of your favorite ice cream, ride this bike with XCish wheels/tires. And another vote for a comparison to the Revel Rascal. Keep up the great work putting out awesome videos.
It would be very interesting to put this new V5 on a diet and see how it goes.... even still, lighter weight with faster tires it just doesn't have the sporty giddy up that the V4 has....
The Ripley AF hasn't changed, yet... Last fall I built a nice Ripley AF with factory suspension etc. I know you were impressed with that platform once before. I would love to see a Ripley versus SB140 back to back... And it would be interesting to include a v4 or Ripley AF in that one for fun as well
Glad to see this Jason. I had a feeling this was going to be your take. Did you know this? The frame is the same on both bikes? The clevis is the only difference, aside from the rear shock and fork. You could buy the clevis, which Ibis will make available. Then you could have 2 bikes.
So it seems like this is less Ripley and more like a baby ripmo. literally the same frame as the ripmo. I assume the engineers designed the frame to accommodate the needs of the ripmo primarily and build it up beefy. I would guess that the new frames are just heavier since they are built burlier . I get what yum Yum is saying about how he was reminded of the original ripmo when experiencing the fifth generation Ripley. The first generation Ripmo was Great. It's interesting to think about that every time you ride the fifth gen Ripley You're of riding a short, travel ripmo at its core. I also love what they did with the sizing adding a extra medium that's fantastic idea gonna get a precise fit for the common size 5'10". I also see your point about adding a 36 that would be a killer set up with a weight penalty of course, but still might be a good set up, depending on the t terrain
Yeah, nothing wrong with the direction IBIS is taking with this bike. I think it will suit a lot of people really well. It just doesn’t feel like the old Ripley so it threw me for a loop….
Love my original v4, it's just so good for 90% of the riding I do since it can be both a burlier XC bike and light duty trail bike (if that makes any sense). This v5 is definitely 'more' bike than I would personally need as it's now more 'trail' oriented and burlier, or so it seems... so no upgrade here. very curious as to what the next generation Exie looks like though in the Ibis lineup!
This new Ripley might fit a growing "hole" in the market - "trail bike" market, albeit in a bit weighty fashion. A bike like the Spur or Spec Evo is a XC/trail bike. The new Spec Stumpy is now an All-Mountain/trail bike. The Giant Trance is still in that trail bike pocket. That frame also got a bit porky. I no longer have a need for an AM/trail/ light enduro-ish bike like the new Stumpy. That is a whole lotta bike. The step down to the Spur is a pretty big gap. I like what the new Ripley is bringing to the table. It's cool it can run 275 out back also. I'm still a fan of that with a burly 2.6x275 tire for certain occasions. Too bad the frame gained so much weight though. Something I can likely live with. Thanks for the great review.
How does it compare to the SB140 in terms of an all round fun and trail bike. Want a bit more of an allrounder but dont want to miss the poppy lively feel
I’ve wanted an Ibis since the first Mojo and just recently moved from an Evil Offering to the v4s for my 1 bike stable. I love what I gained in the agility, climbing and speed of the v4s, but also miss what I lost in the downhill capability of the offering. This new v5 seems like it hits that in between spot and I love the idea of the XM since at 5’10” I’m almost always between a M and L. Makes me wonder how it compares with the newer Following … Thanks for another great review!
At 5'10" I was excited about the XM size as well until I saw the geometry. The new XM is basically the old large and the new large is the old XL. Bummer.
@@MTBActionCam1 ah! I didn’t check on that. I ended up on a M v4s and for the first time on frame size I wonder if I should have sized up to the L. It fits great, but a bit small on steep, fast, technical decents. Still working the cockpit.
This is awesome I think, the trail bike is back…29lbs is more like it for a trail bike too. Still sitting less travel now though compared to the Stumpy 15. The new Ripmo must be out soon to, similar rear triangle as the HD6
haha although the V4 frame looks never bothered me, I heard a lot of people say they didn't like it... the v5 looks a bit better in terms of the actual lines but it's too chunky looking for me... real beefy
I have a Ripley v4. 29#(heavy tires) Love it. Wife has a Ripley Af. 32#. Love it. I have an Orbea Rallon. Very nice. I do prefer the dw link for stand up pedaling. 35#. The weight difference matters, but not as much as my fitness. Unless I was xc racing, I would rather have a better performing bike. Of course I hope the new Ripley is still poppy and playful.
I got lucky and picked up a version 4 SLX carbon wheels for $4600 new. I don't think they're going to get cheaper than that brand new since there aren't that many left but Jenson might have a closeout last year's. That's where I got mine.
The bike looks great, would have even looked beter with the old logo! But this is unfortunately (or should is say lucky enough) not the bike for me, I’ll stick with my V4, still love that bike to bits and much more suitable for where I ride.
Yeah, I think I would have liked to see a more subtle update to the Ripley... 65.5 hta 76 sta 450 reach on medium and sub 1200 wheelbase.... staying light weight and 120/130mm travel
Are you going to be reviewing the Ripmo V3? I called Salt today and the guy on the phone acted like he had no idea a new Ripmo was out. Guess I need to ask for Chris! 😂
The geo of the ripley af with a 140 fork was perfect, it could fight up a weight class but was still super fast to excellerate. Still, I always felt my af was under gunned, leading me to the YT Izzo. 130 rear is where it's at. Geo wise I never felt the difference between a 66 degree and a 65 degree ht was a detrement, even when climbing the tightest of switchbacks. The wheelbase is more important, and with the XM sizing, I think they're nailed it... at least hypothetically. I'm dying to test one out.
This build is a bit portly, slap a dissector or bontrager xr4 up front, leave the rekon in the back and use a lighter weight wheel build, probably adds up to a "zippier" pedalling bike. Also, using a non-traction tuned shock would likely help the pedal feel as well.
Thank you for doing these bike reviews. I always gauge the performance of the bike with the amount of excitement in your voice. I ask that you put data into your reviews. Possibly time your down hill rides. Since you typically ride the same course. You can give a start stop time on the course and compare stats. Speed is always a result of well composed bike. The rider is the same. Just my thoughts
I have yet STILL to find a short travel trail bike that bombs like the Tallboy. That's the standard. My new version Trail 429 is the closest thing but also has the climbing ability of the old Ripley. So to me, that's still the bee's knees.
Hard to argue with ya on that.... if you get a chance to demo this new Ripley you might be very surprised.... the rear end it butter!! That float shock is incredible and the dw link on this new Ripley is just soooo smooooth!!!!!
Comparing bikes with similar travel is also weird because different brands CLEARLY have different goals in mind for how their bike rides. Of course a Tallboy is going to feel more plush than a 429 - that’s what SC suspension is known for while Pivot’s is known for being a little firmer and more supportive. And you would put a 120mm bike and a 130mm bike in the same category? To each his own but you put some wild takes out there lately.
Sounds like the best of both worlds as you said. Great review as always!! How much weight could you lose on this new Ripley in xtr or xx1?? Wheels, etc. 27lbs? Thanks again for bringing us great reviews!
Why keep the Fox 34 on the V5? A Fox 36 makes way more sense for a 140mm fork. Ibis already bumped up the weight by a couple pounds from V4, so another 1/3# with the Fox 36 wouldn't hurt. If they want to make it a trail bike, then Ibis should have made it a trail bike. I have the Pivot 429 enduro build, and the Fox 36 is excellent for a 140 fork. I think that Ibis may have missed the mark with the new Ripley. Great review, as always, Jason. I'm sure you'll be reviewing the new Ripmo next?
I just can't get excited about a 140/130 Ripley that outweighs my middling spec'd Ripmo V1. I was excited to see an Ibis 140/130 trail bike but not at that weight. Was also sad to see that the Stumpy 15 is a Stumpy EVO replacement rather than a new Stumpy trail bike, and there's nothing currently in that trail bike space from Specialized. Seems the Trek Fuel EX started the "let''s make bikes heavier again" trend. I missed the light trail bike window.
Yeah, I know there are people out there that really send and hammer on bike but they are the fringe not the mainstream majority... Santa Cruz, Evil and Pivot have been over building bike for awhile now..... it's weird to say buy my Cannondale Scalpel is my favorite bike right now because it's an actual light weight trail bike. Go figure, a light bike you can actual ride all day without feeling like trash at the end of the ride.
I’m so interested in this topic and loved the video. The Ripley has been my single bike for almost a decade-I currently ride the V2 and it’s been great. For many years, I’ve wanted to augment it with a race bike, and this year I finally pulled the trigger on a Mach 4SL. Great bike for racing and light trail duty. I dropped 3-4 pounds and can really feel it. I thought I might take my V2 Ripley and go to a Fox 36/140 to make it a little better on rowdy terrain, but this V5 might make more sense. My one question concerns the wheelbase-I never liked my V2 on tight switchbacks; just a little too ponderous, especially in an XL size. If the V5 is even worse, that’s concerning.
Nice job on the review brother. Everything about it is great but the styling is off too many letters on the top tube. Graphics shouldve been more subtle bc the frame lines are nicer now
Sounds like a good trail bike bike contender. But I wish it still had retained some of its zipp you described is missing. Are you going to do the new Specialized Chisel review? I would very much like to hear your thoughts on it. Great reviews on your channel!
Love the video. You should def try a Fox 36. I have an Orbea Occam M10 and the same frame can be used as a 140mm short travel or 150/160mm long travel bike. I went for the LT which came with DHX coil rear, carbon frame and Fox 150mm 36 Grip 2. I've put XC tyres on it, carbon wheels (I will be reducing travel to 140both ends too) and it really rides more like a down country bike. Fast, zippy and great climbing tractio. To make it really light, I may swap to lightweight inline shock, which would save a lot of weight too. For reference, I also have Scalpel SE2 and Mondraker Foxy R. The Foxy is very much more of an agrressive trail bike and the Scalpel you know well (I think of it as an overforked XC bike). Looks like Ibis have followed a similar route and consolidating trail frames and differentiating with build kit. PS Love the vids.
I did the same with a Revel Rascal V1 - built it with light carbon rims, XTR etc.. it was one of my favorite bikes ever. I am wondering if this Ripley could be the same ?
Great review. Seems an odd choice by Ibis. Unless they intro a new XC bike, they don't have a "smaller" bike they can bump travel and geo to fill the void the V4 leaves, kinda like Trek did with the Fuel EX & Top Fuel. Bikes always evolve, but this feels like a straight up replacement and not an update. They took a trail runner and turned it into a boot!
Having followed Yum yum channel for a while now I can say 💯 Jase will not be getting this bike 😂!! I had a look at the V4 Ripley on Saturday and my god it’s soooooo light I couldn’t actually believe it , this V5 looks a bit like a YT
haha you know me well.... Yeah, it's a pass for me... sad to say. Been spending a lot of time on the new Cannondale Scalpel and loving it! For me, it fills that old Ripley role pretty dang well.
Great job on your channel and reviews. In about May, I just got a screaming deal on last year’s Scalpel SE, and I totally agree with your review. It is really easy to select this bike when going to ride an XC flavored trail. The climbing is made easy, and the descended is fun. It is light, so you have to ride accordingly. And I’ve just gotta ask, what on earth do you do for a living/bike $?
Wow, yeah. Just looked it up. 76 sta 65.5 hta 451 reach and sub 1200 wheelbase... if it can be built at or under 27 lbs I'd be interested... I really liked my rascal from a few years ago but the sta was a bit slack.... full disclosure, I ran a 150mm fork on mine but with a 140mm Pike I bet the weight could get down... very interesting!
I’m excited to try this bike! I currently ride a Giant Trance (115 mm) and want a bit more bike. Didn’t feel like the V4 Ripley was enough, but Ripmo was too much. The V5 Ripley seems like exactly the thing I’m looking for in a trail bike.
Jason, thank you very much. It was a great video. I’d love to get that bike. I have both Ripley v4 and Ripmo V2 but the new Ripley would be perfect for me and it would be simpler with just one bike. Maybe I can trade / sell them both in and get one😊. Thanks again for the great video.
@@mtbyumyum OMG you will never believe what happened. I met Chris last Sunday at Park City on the corner of Silver Queen and the Mid-Mountain Trail. He was stopped there with his kids, he had Draper gloves on, I said hey do you know Yum Yum from Draper, he said he was just texting you and introduced himself as Chris from Salt Cycles. I said wow you and Jason are my heroes. He offered to show me a good way down which was Mid-Mountain to CMG and it was great. What do you know I got to go Mach-Chicken (well kind of) with Chris and his kids. I camped at Wasatch State Park it was fantastic. Day one I road up the paved road to the WOW trail and then down the trail, and it is one of the best / funnest trails I have ever ridden. It was on Friday the morning after the Thunder storm and the dirt was great. I also road the trails around the Campsite, Phosphate, Dutchman. Donkey Ridge,,,. Chris also said I should do the Crest and I did. It was an incredible ride! While I was ridding with Chris I mentioned I wanted to trade my Ripmo V2 and Ripley V4 for a new Ripley V5. I am going to call him and ask him for Ideas. I had a great time in your area and Thanks so much for your great videos, knowledge and passion. Patrick
I believe weight is a big deal and one many bike companies are falling short on. Everyone on UA-cam only shows the downhill rides, but the pains come from climbing. More isn't always better. All trail bikes should be under 29 lbs, in my opinion. This is a top build and its 29lbs, probably without pedals. Pedals are almost another pound. Bring back the 26lbs with pedals trail bike. I know several people with faster times on older lighter bikes. Most of that time is being made up on the uphill climb.
Thanks for sharing! Appreciate your insights as usual. Seems all the brands are shifting this way. The Ripley size XM is now longer than my Ripmo AF size L! I guess the market will determine if that's a good thing or not. Everyone is starting to look the same too: Ibis, Yeti, YT, etc.
Yeah. Sort of sad to see the changes.... that said, I'm really glad the new size medium Ripley still fits me so well.... Size medium Pivot bikes are HUGE and don't fit me.
Sounds like they should have left the Ripley V4 alone and made something to fill the gap between the ripmo and the Ripley, if there even was one. Call it a "Tweenermo"😊. I mean after all the ripmo was a combo of the Mojo and the Ripley.
The Ripmo was a combo of the Ripley and Mojo.... why didn't I ever connect those dots. Thanks! Yeah, I think they should have called this new bike the Mojo 5... that would have been really neat and still left room for a 120mm short travel bike
As a bigger rider, i hate when the shocks are in line with the rear triangle like this, seems to require more air pressure to get sag, which means i would be towards the max pressure for this shock. I don't have this issue with the newer pivot linkage. So I'll stick with pivot.
@@mtbyumyum I have that shock and really like it, has been easy to set up. But Im having a hard time getting the fork right Fox 34 gripx. What are you running on it?
I've been wearing Smith Forefront for the past 4 or so years. My wife recently had a very very bad crash... worst crash she's ever had. She suffered a concussion and badly damaged her Fox Pro Frame helmet in the process. After that I researched and bought all new helmets for us. We both switched over to this new Manifest. From what I can tell, it's the best/safest half lid available right now. It also fits me well and can easily hold my glasses with only using 1 hand to put my glasses on the helmet while riding. Giro Manifest Helmet: alnk.to/dAmP5mu
@@mtbyumyum wow, that’s not great news, glad she was ok though. Those types of crashes can really take it out of you. Hope she stays riding! Might have to get a manifest then!
Yeah, thanks. She tool 3 weeks off then starting getting back out on the road bike. She's been out on 2 mountain bike rides last week but still with some neck pain so she'll likely give it a bit more time.... Thanks for your concern!
Thanks so much for your review! I have an original Ripley and bought a V2 Ripmo to replace it, but I still choose to ride the Ripley! I’m ready to get something new that feels more like the Ripley (I love that bike so much!) I see that Jenson has an exclusive Ripley XT in my size, what are your thoughts on that? I worry that I can’t demo it, but also feel like it’s my last chance to get a Ripley that feels most similar to mine. Would love to know your opinion!
My thoughts exactly... I think this change would have sat better with me if we also got a new Exie V2 today to go along with these two new bikes... just to feel the gap between the new Ripley and current Exie.... Anyone disappointed can still pick up a V4 Ripley at huge discounts!!! Call Chris at Salt Cycles: 801-943-8502
Yeah, I think so... I've put over 200 miles on mine and my daughter just recently took it over as her xc race bike lol it's very light weight and very fast. The Cannondale, although similar to the ASR, is maybe just a tad more "trail" than the ASR.... both excellent XC bikes but the soul of the scalpel is a trail bike!! That's what makes that bike and the Pivot Mach 4 sl so interesting to me.... they're XC bikes with a bit of trail soul in the dna...
Thank you, great review. I enjoy reading you reviews having similar specs (5'9 150lbs). I've never owned am Ibis but would like to get a Ripley at some point. Unrelated, but I've also gotten a good impression of Yeti from your reviews. Do you think you'll review the new SB 135 with 27.5 wheels? I've had a Pivot Trail 429 for the last two years and it's been the best riding bike I've ever owned. I was thinking about also getting a 27.5 bike and the SB 135 is one of the few all 27.5 current bikes (and the Pivot Shadowcat.)
I've not ridden the sb135 but I spent a week on the Shadowcat and honestly, it's been on my mind so many times just never pulled the trigger on it. It's hard for me to pass up the many other excellent 29ers in the Shadowcat category... hope that makes sense? but I am one bad decision away from ordering a shadowcat... it's an incredible bike!!
“The rear end is plush and deep”. Uh yeah, it’s got more travel, longer, and is heavier. Unfortunately not everyone’s trails are simply long fire road shuttle runs up and then turn back down. Some of have to alternately pedal and turn while going up and down. This ain’t the bike for that. The last Ripley was perfect for that. Not sure why each generation of new bikes has to get bigger/longer. They could have added the storage, changed tube shape, tweaked the geometry a bit here and there but kept it spry. Oh well.
If the frame lost 1.5-2lbs I'd be all over this. That 130/140 travel light trail bike segments is really lacking some options, especially since Specialized killed the Stumpjumper.
Yeah, the stumpjumper was very light weigh and a lot of fun... I struggled with the rear end a bit. Honestly, I bet that bike would be money with the new float shock!
@@mtbyumyum I just built up a SJ frame (non-sworks), luckily the website still had S5's at a great deal...full XTR, Float 34 GripX, with pedals sitting at 25.5lbs, only have a couple rides on it but it absolutely rips, probably gonna push me to get rid of the all-mountain bike.
Nice color, looks like Satin Army Teal. . Maybe they should keep making the same V4 Cross Country/Trail Ripley and rename this new V5 the *_Ripper_* . Bummer about the shock placement.
Thanks for the great video! This change to a bigger bike might be exactly what I am looking for. I have a Ripmo v2 now, and was looking for something that climbed just a tiny bit better. What are you thoughts on this Ripley v5, vs Tallboy, or something else?
T429 feels lighter... not sure it actual is.... T429 feels more efficient with greater support in the shock.... V5 Ripley feels more easy going, playful and plush out back
The YT Jeffsy has an eerily similar design, frame storage, slightly more travel, and is drastically cheaper. At this point you're clowning yourself if you spend the money on this bike when the same exact frame is available from 4 other brands 😂
Great review. Have you ridden a V4 Ripley with a Fox Float shock and 140 34/36 fork? I’ve heard the Float is a huge upgrade from the factory dps shock. Curious how that would compare to the V5?
So less travel than the v1 ripmo with probably a heavier frame weight. This is progress? Also, bring back the headbadge. The new logo still looks like it was stolen from some cheap airline.
The immediate thoughts that come to mind on this new Ripley is the implications it'll have on the future exie .future exie might be a reincarnated Ripley V4ish
The previous Ripley V4 was a special bike. Probably my favorite bike of all time!! Do you think Ibis made the right choice bumping the travel to 130/140mm and beefing up the frame almost 2 pounds? Comment below!
How would compare this to the Revel Rascal?
Nice bike for sure. ...I'll stick with my Transition Spur for my aggressive short travel trail bike. Jason, best review as usual.
Ibis has the Exie for the short travel XC riders. I think it makes sense that the Ripley now becomes the quintessential 'short travel' trail bike. Exie for XC, Ripley for Trail, Ripmo for All mountain and HD6 for Enduro.
Nope, if I wanted a bike that could hang with the Ripmo, I’d get a Ripmo. The v4 had that special sauce that made it loved by all who owned one. This is like a Ripmo-lite. Not what I’m personally looking for but I’m sure it works for others.
I own a V4 Ripley (mostly because the DW Link provides the best platform for the climbing efficiency that I need here in Boise and because of Jason's glowing reviews) and think it is one of the most capable all around bikes EVER! To that end, I agree that is sad to see its retirement. However, when you look at the bicycle arms race and the trends in the "Trail" category with bikes going with a bit longer suspension , slacker HT and longer wheel base (and yes, frame storage), it comes as no real surprise that Ibis would have to counter punch with these updates to my beloved Ripley. Thankfully they've done it to perfection . . . exactly what you'd expect from Ibis!
Once again, great review Jason . . . keep'em comin'!!!
Excellent video, Jason! Super fun and interesting to hear your perspective… to me, This is by far the best Ripley they’ve ever done- which is also indicative of how crazy different our preferences are! Hope all is well, looking forward to seeing your future videos!
Thanks! I watched your video straight away. As always, very good! It's crazy to see how you can just move the bike around almost effortlessly... such a powerful rider. I'm very small. 142 lbs right now haha and not very strong. Been riding for over 30 years now including racing for that long... xc racing. My preference is always lighter faster bikes. My current favorite, the one I grab almost every morning, is the Cannondale Scalpel. 23 lbs!!
Hi Jeff! its cool to see other channels I like supporting each other.
Your comment doesn't make sense. You said it's the best, ok, based what? just what you heard? Or do you own one, did you demo it, what? if you are going to say something back it up with something like everyone else does on this thread.
@@31acruz Check out his video review...
The industry just goes round and round. Last year, it was all down country, now we're headed back to trail bikes. Next everything will become enduro again, and then we'll circle back to cross country and start the whole thing over again. That said, both the V4 and V5 seem great.
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What a great take. Seems like e bikes are trending crazy as well
when i first saw this i was pissed i got a v4s but now happy i did
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haha... they're just different bikes.... congrats on the V4
Just wait for the new Exie. It’ll be like the Ripley V4. Then they’ll squeeze in another true XC bike to confuse everyone more. 😂
@@mtbyumyumlike they should have called it something else 😂
Ripmo + Ripley offspring. Seems to be exactly what Ibis was aiming for, given the geo and travel/suspension spec. Your enthusiasm is one of your best qualities, and to see it go mach chicken reviewing this new Ripley was a super fun!
Thank you!
Saw that Ibis updated the Ripley and Ripmo and immediately knew that Jason would be all over this.
haha yep! Been having a blast on this bike... pretty different from the previous Ripley and heavy... sad to see this big of a change but I think a lot of people will really like the new Ripley and benefit from it's strengths despite the huge change in the bike.
You knew because his local bike shop is an Ibis dealer. 😂 His reviews aren’t hard to predict.
Thanks to you Jason about 5 months ago I pulled the trigger and bought the V4 and couldn’t be happier. I purchased it in the bad apple red color and get many compliments. For all the differences you pointed out, I would have no desire to get the V5.
So glad to hear!! Tyler and I recently spent time on the V4s Ripley and would just laughing the entire time. What an incredible bike!! Fun factor through the roof and climbs like no other!!
I think we’ve pretty much reached the peak of what a bike can do. Suspension can only be developed so much before you can’t go any further. Kinematics and gravity and bumps will have a finite limit at some point. And that’s why all bikes are starting to look the same now… The rear has a path of travel. How many times can you reinvent that before you find the pinnacle sweet spot? Not that many!
I feel like Jason is trying to convince himself that he really likes this bike, just the feeling I get. It's gonna be awesome, it's an Ibis, but the V4 was just more fun right?
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Yeah, for me this bike doesn’t live up to the Ripley V4. It’s not to say there’s anything wrong with the bike, the V4 was just a very special bike!
@@mtbyumyumappreciate the honesty, J-dog!
@mtbyumyum I like the idea of it being 130mm as I'm a bigger guy but it seems they went to far
Hey Jason have you given it a fair comparison, you know upper end equipment, carbon wheels, etc?
Yeah, considering your initial review, the comments, and what I expected from the new Ripley - I am soooo glad that I pulled the trigger on the Rocky Mountain Element.
I have a V4 Ripley and my wife has a custom Element. We both race cat1 XC on them, just the perfect do it all bikes.
Yeah, the Element feels a bit punchier while stilling giving you greater traction and stability than a full blown xc bike.
@@MrMojoRisin22 Interesting, I race XC on my Ripley, what is your set up? Front type Travel? Rear shock? Wheels? Appreciate anything you could share
@@jimnarvel9794 we race the state series in West Virginia. I switched to a Ripley from a 100mm Scott Spark because our courses have some pretty legit downhills with massive rock gardens and drops. I’m still running the stock Fox setup, the 130mm is probably just slightly more than I need but I don’t think it really hampers me, I’ve been really happy with the fork.
Running full AXS XX1 drivetrain and AXS dropper, Enve bars, stem and M6 wheels (went with the M6 over the M5 for the wider rim)
For tires I’m running a Vitoria Barzo / Mezcal combo and have been really happy with their performance. I also run a Vitoria airliner in each tire so I can run low pressures and so I can ditch a tube when I’m racing. Bike comes in at 25lbs with pedals and bottle cage in an XL
@@MrMojoRisin22 may I ask, why do you ride a dropper if you do XC? isn't that extra weight you don't use?
Love J's reviews and assume we'll see Ripmo V3 review soon. Not sure if you mentioned it but the Ripley V5 and Ripmo v3 are the same exact carbon frame as eachother, just different linkage parts. This had to be a cost savings measure by Ibis, and although that setup is fine for the Ripmo it's a bummer for Ripley owners because the frame is built essentially to enduro standards and therefore as you mentioned almost 2 pounds heavier. Queue the weight weenie comments but one of the main reasons to have a shorter travel bike is because they are lighter, better pedalling, etc.
Makes sense... still wish they would have kept the Ripley light weight, snappy and sporty....
I’m a huge fan of the previous Ripley but I’m disappointed in the added frame weight all because Ibis has chosen to consolidate the platform and use identical front and rear triangles for both the Ripley and the Ripmo with just different linkage. The v5 could easily still be light and snappy even at 140/130mm had they chosen to optimize the Ripley as its own bike.
Yeah, I think it was a money thing.... makes sense
@@mtbyumyum yeah definitely a money thing. They don't have to have separate molds and tooling. Just get one frame off the rack and build either bike who knows in one day there might be two distinct frames once again, but maybe not.
Sounds like the "bean counters" at Ibis won this time vs the engineers at Ibis.
V4 was one of the most sublime bikes I have ever ridden, something very special. seems this is a step backwards as a capable allrounder
I look at it less as a step forward or a step backward and more of just a step. I completely agree with you though, the V4 was a very special bike! This one is just more of the same…. You can find a bike like this in almost any manufacturer these days.
One thing I’ve decided is that I will keep my v4.
smart!!
I sold my brother on the outgoing model v4s
I’m glad! much more aimed at the type of trails we ride.
I’m sure the new one will be just great for so many conditions
Yeah, I could still point people to the V4 Ripley.... just does every thing so dang good!! Although this new V5 has a higher speed limit of stability
I am glad I got a V4, I wonder if the V4 used prices will spike now? Lol
haha probably not spike... but what a buy at these used prices... the v4 is a bargain!!!
I have a feeling the V4 was the perfect size for it to be a trail bike with some xcountry spirit. Stable and agile and light enough to be a xcountry bike with great climbing capabilities and with enough travel for trails and decent descends.
I may also be bias because I own a Ripley V4, but I love my Ripley it’s just perfect for trails in many ways.
Great video like always, blessings 🙏🏼.
Thank you! Yeah, the v4 was a good blend of everything.... too bad. Maybe Ibis will make a more trail version of the Exie
Light weight and zippy short travel trail bikes are where I lean and the market is leaving me behind. Guess I’m into the new breed of cross county bikes now haha.
XC bikes are like the old trail bikes now. The Mach 4 in trail mode was very impressive
@@dav31078 Exactly what I was about to say, Pivot cycles never disappoint. Running a Shadowcat mullet with a Fox 34 and it's mind blowing. Also have a Firebird mullet for bike park / shuttle duties. Both lightweight in their respective category
Dude, the Epic 8 showed me just how capable XC can be. It was pretty capable on my local gnarly trails.
@@mikes.8305 I have my eye on that one. Internal frame storage, 2 water bottle cages and 26lbs is appealing.
@gnar_tar what travel fork are you driving on the shadowcat?
Half way through the vid and I’m thinking how good this bike looks. So much better looking than the old one. Also Jason always seems pumped to be on a Ripley. Great energy and very good description and feedback.
I have the new stumpy frame sitting in my garage and I’m looking at this bike drooling.
I disagree. It looks like any other bike on the market. Old one had distinct look to it.
PS review is excellent. No complaints there
I owned a ripmo years ago and the Ripley 4. The ripmo I would describe as ugly, cparticularly in the old ibis color schemes. It rode so good though. The Ripley was never ugly, but I certainly was never in to the curved top tube at all.
This one looks like a mini HD6 and I love that! But to each their own.
I always thought their old designs were kind of ugly, and this new one looks snappy clean, I like it but you're right it does look good like the pivots and yetis 👍
I love my v4. But it’s my only bike and I got it when I lived in a different area with flatter terrain. I’m excited to throw a leg over the new v5. My riding has become more biased to ripping on the down so excited to see what the changes feel like. But I hear you on mourning the zippy pop of the v4 - it’s one of the reasons I have not considered a new bike in the past 5 years!
Yeah, for anyone looking for just a bit more top end and stability, the V5 will fit the bill as good or better than anything else out there!
Thanks for the great review. I was eager to hear your opinion since you have so much experience with the older Ripley models.
My pleasure!
The Ripley is now a Ripmo and a Ripmo is now a Ripmo-mo.. and there is no more Ripley.. Makes complete sense since every single bike needs to pretend its an enduro bike. Glad I still have my V4
Will be interesting to see what they do with the Exie....
@@mtbyumyum you're going to see a lot of the Ripley V4 DNA in that one for sure
I have both the v4s ripley and the v2s ripmo, and I feel both bikes are amazing for their roles and abilities. This new ripley would be a great bike in-between, but I don't think they should stop making the ripley v4s. Personally, I love my ripley, it's like a off road sports car. If things get ruff, I like the ripmo v2s how it is. The reason I got the ripley was because of how well it climbed and how fast it is. It's not just fast, but it's easy to move around the trails in a fun, playful manner. I personally think ibis should make all 3. I can't wait to try the v5, I believe the yeti sb140, trail 429, and revel rascal v2 would be good bikes for one bike to do everything. I just feel the ibis ripley v4s handles 80% to 90% of my trails so we'll it's hard to see it go.
The ripley is a better bike for dupont, or most south eastern trails, ripmo is better for bike parts.
Don't worry, the used market is extremely saturated with Ibis bikes. The v4s will be readily available for a long time.
Yeah, you're not wrong... having ridden the new V5 Ripley that past 2 weeks, they really could keep the V4 in the lineup between the Exie and V5 ripley....
Just pulled the trigger on a Pivot 429 4 days ago. I saw this video pop up and my heart sunk like a made a huge error......I now don't regret doing the Pivot. I looked hard at the Ripley V4, but at my 200+lbs in kit and the fairly uggo color options (drywall???) I went for the 429. (yumyum's previous favorite bike I believe...)
Nice, congrats on the new bike! Yeah, I think you made the right move. Enjoy
I like the straight top tube on this new version. It would be interesting to see a comparison between this bike and the new Revel Rascal V2.
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While haven’t ridden it I noticed the reach and top tube are nearly identical (at least in size Medium) to the v2 Medium Ripmo which I currently ride. I probably would love this bike as for me the v4 Ripley was noticeably less capable than the Ripmo for steep descents. However the Ripmo has always been slightly more bike than I need. I was quite comfortable with the Yeti SB130 but preferred the ride feel of the Ripmo better (when I was in the market 3 years ago). This is probably the ideal bike for me but I will not be getting a new bike anytime soon. I try for 10 years every time I upgrade (if the bike lasts that long). Thanks for a great review.
Yeah, if the previous Ripley wasn't quite enough bike and the old Ripmo was just a bit too much, you are the exact person this new Ripley was built for! I think you'll be very impressed with it. Better suspension feel than the previous Ripmo and it's much more easy going than the Yeti SB130 or 140... the rear end of the new Ripley is incredible and second to non... so buttery smooth!!
Appreciate the review, you have a ton of experience with both the Ripley and Ripmo.
Thanks. This is like a really chubby baby Ripmo lol
Excellent review, Jason! I recently bought a heavily discounted (40% off!) Ripley V4 to fill the "downcountry" void in my quiver, and I absolutely love it. It might my my favorite bike ever. I also ride a SB130 as my all-mountain choice, so the V5 Ripley does not appeal me at this time. But I do think the V5 would meet the need for someone who is seeking a single, "do-it-all" ride.
Congrats on the new bike! Yeah, I think this V5 Ripley will be an excellent options for anyone previously on a Ripmo and felt it was just a little too much bike...
Could you pretty please, for a scoop of your favorite ice cream, ride this bike with XCish wheels/tires. And another vote for a comparison to the Revel Rascal. Keep up the great work putting out awesome videos.
It would be very interesting to put this new V5 on a diet and see how it goes.... even still, lighter weight with faster tires it just doesn't have the sporty giddy up that the V4 has....
The Ripley AF hasn't changed, yet... Last fall I built a nice Ripley AF with factory suspension etc. I know you were impressed with that platform once before.
I would love to see a Ripley versus SB140 back to back... And it would be interesting to include a v4 or Ripley AF in that one for fun as well
Yeah, I think I could do a 140 vs v5 Ripley.... that could be cool. I completely forgot to even mention the alloy ripley.... stupid me haha
Glad to see this Jason. I had a feeling this was going to be your take. Did you know this? The frame is the same on both bikes? The clevis is the only difference, aside from the rear shock and fork. You could buy the clevis, which Ibis will make available. Then you could have 2 bikes.
I don’t think I realize that. That’s pretty cool!
So it seems like this is less Ripley and more like a baby ripmo. literally the same frame as the ripmo. I assume the engineers designed the frame to accommodate the needs of the ripmo primarily and build it up beefy.
I would guess that the new frames are just heavier since they are built burlier .
I get what yum Yum is saying about how he was reminded of the original ripmo when experiencing the fifth generation Ripley. The first generation Ripmo was Great.
It's interesting to think about that every time you ride the fifth gen Ripley You're of riding a short, travel ripmo at its core.
I also love what they did with the sizing adding a extra medium that's fantastic idea gonna get a precise fit for the common size 5'10". I also see your point about adding a 36 that would be a killer set up with a weight penalty of course, but still might be a good set up, depending on the t terrain
Yeah, nothing wrong with the direction IBIS is taking with this bike. I think it will suit a lot of people really well. It just doesn’t feel like the old Ripley so it threw me for a loop….
@@mtbyumyum the decision on the current Ripley will make a lot of sense once a next gen exie comes out.
You should compare it to the V2 rascal
@@skinny8019 agreed similar numbers and lighter
@@djean53for me the rascal numbers are a bit better. On paper anyway
It's so much quieter on the descent. Crazy!
Love my original v4, it's just so good for 90% of the riding I do since it can be both a burlier XC bike and light duty trail bike (if that makes any sense). This v5 is definitely 'more' bike than I would personally need as it's now more 'trail' oriented and burlier, or so it seems... so no upgrade here. very curious as to what the next generation Exie looks like though in the Ibis lineup!
Yeah, me too.... can't wait to see what they next do with the Exie.
The ripley and ripmo did have a lovechild.... The AF!
This new Ripley might fit a growing "hole" in the market - "trail bike" market, albeit in a bit weighty fashion. A bike like the Spur or Spec Evo is a XC/trail bike. The new Spec Stumpy is now an All-Mountain/trail bike. The Giant Trance is still in that trail bike pocket. That frame also got a bit porky. I no longer have a need for an AM/trail/ light enduro-ish bike like the new Stumpy. That is a whole lotta bike. The step down to the Spur is a pretty big gap. I like what the new Ripley is bringing to the table. It's cool it can run 275 out back also. I'm still a fan of that with a burly 2.6x275 tire for certain occasions. Too bad the frame gained so much weight though. Something I can likely live with. Thanks for the great review.
How does it compare to the SB140 in terms of an all round fun and trail bike. Want a bit more of an allrounder but dont want to miss the poppy lively feel
id love to see a comparison with the latest revel rascal V2.
I’ve wanted an Ibis since the first Mojo and just recently moved from an Evil Offering to the v4s for my 1 bike stable. I love what I gained in the agility, climbing and speed of the v4s, but also miss what I lost in the downhill capability of the offering. This new v5 seems like it hits that in between spot and I love the idea of the XM since at 5’10” I’m almost always between a M and L.
Makes me wonder how it compares with the newer Following …
Thanks for another great review!
At 5'10" I was excited about the XM size as well until I saw the geometry. The new XM is basically the old large and the new large is the old XL. Bummer.
Yeah, this V5 for sure had greater descending chops than the V4.... coming from the Offering, you'll love this new ripley
@@MTBActionCam1 ah! I didn’t check on that. I ended up on a M v4s and for the first time on frame size I wonder if I should have sized up to the L. It fits great, but a bit small on steep, fast, technical decents. Still working the cockpit.
All you need is the Pivot T429 and you are good to go.
You really do such a fantastic job at bringing enthusiasm and info.... awesome. I have a gen 4 and love it. But I am open to a new frame
Thank you!
This is awesome I think, the trail bike is back…29lbs is more like it for a trail bike too. Still sitting less travel now though compared to the Stumpy 15. The new Ripmo must be out soon to, similar rear triangle as the HD6
same frame shared for Ripley and Ripmo
29lbs for the top build, which means most builds will be 30 to 32 lbs.
@@8FunGuy8 yes true, but easy to drop 2-4 lbs
@@8FunGuy8 I’ve got my Revel Rail sitting at 32lbs, and not a light build
The new paint job is dope!
So clean but still a lot of cool factory. Love it!
This new Ripleymo sounds intriguing.
you mean sounds heavy.
The major improvement here is the top tube shape is less ugly
Too much travel for the “down country” segment it once led
haha although the V4 frame looks never bothered me, I heard a lot of people say they didn't like it... the v5 looks a bit better in terms of the actual lines but it's too chunky looking for me... real beefy
I feel the v3 and v4 look better than this.
I have a Ripley v4. 29#(heavy tires) Love it.
Wife has a Ripley Af. 32#. Love it.
I have an Orbea Rallon. Very nice. I do prefer the dw link for stand up pedaling. 35#.
The weight difference matters, but not as much as my fitness.
Unless I was xc racing, I would rather have a better performing bike. Of course I hope the new Ripley is still poppy and playful.
I would say the new V5 Ripley is more poppy and playful than other bikes like it. Like the tall boy, for example.
Sweet! the V4 will be cheap now time to grab one 😁
They have been on sale for a while now, probably not that many left.
I got lucky and picked up a version 4 SLX carbon wheels for $4600 new. I don't think they're going to get cheaper than that brand new since there aren't that many left but Jenson might have a closeout last year's. That's where I got mine.
@@Eruizela How was Jenson any issues when bike arrived?
@@user-rj9ui3sz8u I picked it up
@@user-rj9ui3sz8u I actually picked it up myself at the warehouse
The bike looks great, would have even looked beter with the old logo! But this is unfortunately (or should is say lucky enough) not the bike for me, I’ll stick with my V4, still love that bike to bits and much more suitable for where I ride.
Yeah, I think I would have liked to see a more subtle update to the Ripley... 65.5 hta 76 sta 450 reach on medium and sub 1200 wheelbase.... staying light weight and 120/130mm travel
Are you going to be reviewing the Ripmo V3? I called Salt today and the guy on the phone acted like he had no idea a new Ripmo was out. Guess I need to ask for Chris! 😂
Yes! Ripmo video coming soon... haha yeah, talk to Chris!
The geo of the ripley af with a 140 fork was perfect, it could fight up a weight class but was still super fast to excellerate. Still, I always felt my af was under gunned, leading me to the YT Izzo. 130 rear is where it's at. Geo wise I never felt the difference between a 66 degree and a 65 degree ht was a detrement, even when climbing the tightest of switchbacks. The wheelbase is more important, and with the XM sizing, I think they're nailed it... at least hypothetically. I'm dying to test one out.
This build is a bit portly, slap a dissector or bontrager xr4 up front, leave the rekon in the back and use a lighter weight wheel build, probably adds up to a "zippier" pedalling bike. Also, using a non-traction tuned shock would likely help the pedal feel as well.
I'm considering putting this bike on a diet and seeing how it goes...
Im keeping my v4 for years now
Thank you for doing these bike reviews. I always gauge the performance of the bike with the amount of excitement in your voice. I ask that you put data into your reviews. Possibly time your down hill rides. Since you typically ride the same course. You can give a start stop time on the course and compare stats. Speed is always a result of well composed bike. The rider is the same. Just my thoughts
Glad you like them! Thanks for the feedback!
I have yet STILL to find a short travel trail bike that bombs like the Tallboy. That's the standard. My new version Trail 429 is the closest thing but also has the climbing ability of the old Ripley. So to me, that's still the bee's knees.
Hard to argue with ya on that.... if you get a chance to demo this new Ripley you might be very surprised.... the rear end it butter!! That float shock is incredible and the dw link on this new Ripley is just soooo smooooth!!!!!
I'd bet the Exie v2 will have 120mm rear suspension travel so they moved up the Ripley to 130mm.
Yeah, I bet you're right.... after riding the new Ripley.... I'm very Exie V2 curious and excited!!
Comparing bikes with similar travel is also weird because different brands CLEARLY have different goals in mind for how their bike rides. Of course a Tallboy is going to feel more plush than a 429 - that’s what SC suspension is known for while Pivot’s is known for being a little firmer and more supportive.
And you would put a 120mm bike and a 130mm bike in the same category?
To each his own but you put some wild takes out there lately.
Wild takes??
Sounds like the best of both worlds as you said. Great review as always!! How much weight could you lose on this new Ripley in xtr or xx1?? Wheels, etc. 27lbs? Thanks again for bringing us great reviews!
Yeah, I think 27 is doable...
Guess what? I like it! Considering a Mullet custom bike.
Fun!! Call Chris at Salt Cycles and order that thing!! 801-943-8502
Why keep the Fox 34 on the V5? A Fox 36 makes way more sense for a 140mm fork. Ibis already bumped up the weight by a couple pounds from V4, so another 1/3# with the Fox 36 wouldn't hurt. If they want to make it a trail bike, then Ibis should have made it a trail bike. I have the Pivot 429 enduro build, and the Fox 36 is excellent for a 140 fork. I think that Ibis may have missed the mark with the new Ripley. Great review, as always, Jason. I'm sure you'll be reviewing the new Ripmo next?
Yeah, the V5 Ripley is still a neat bike but for me... sort of missed the mark. Ripmo video coming soon
Interesting tire spec! DHR2 + Rekon! Keep up the vids!
I used to always ride dhr up front. Lighter than dhf and still excellent traction
I love the looks, love the color!
V4 for me- just the right amount of squish and speed
Bingo. Loved my v4 Ripley
I just can't get excited about a 140/130 Ripley that outweighs my middling spec'd Ripmo V1. I was excited to see an Ibis 140/130 trail bike but not at that weight. Was also sad to see that the Stumpy 15 is a Stumpy EVO replacement rather than a new Stumpy trail bike, and there's nothing currently in that trail bike space from Specialized. Seems the Trek Fuel EX started the "let''s make bikes heavier again" trend. I missed the light trail bike window.
Yeah, I know there are people out there that really send and hammer on bike but they are the fringe not the mainstream majority... Santa Cruz, Evil and Pivot have been over building bike for awhile now..... it's weird to say buy my Cannondale Scalpel is my favorite bike right now because it's an actual light weight trail bike. Go figure, a light bike you can actual ride all day without feeling like trash at the end of the ride.
I’m so interested in this topic and loved the video. The Ripley has been my single bike for almost a decade-I currently ride the V2 and it’s been great. For many years, I’ve wanted to augment it with a race bike, and this year I finally pulled the trigger on a Mach 4SL. Great bike for racing and light trail duty. I dropped 3-4 pounds and can really feel it.
I thought I might take my V2 Ripley and go to a Fox 36/140 to make it a little better on rowdy terrain, but this V5 might make more sense. My one question concerns the wheelbase-I never liked my V2 on tight switchbacks; just a little too ponderous, especially in an XL size. If the V5 is even worse, that’s concerning.
Nice job on the review brother. Everything about it is great but the styling is off too many letters on the top tube. Graphics shouldve been more subtle bc the frame lines are nicer now
Interesting... In person the bike looks nice
Sounds like a good trail bike bike contender. But I wish it still had retained some of its zipp you described is missing.
Are you going to do the new Specialized Chisel review? I would very much like to hear your thoughts on it.
Great reviews on your channel!
Thanks! No plan for a Chisel review at this time....
It’s a gen 1 Ripmo…been there done that…holding onto my v4
lol yep.... the rear end feels a better than the previous ripmo tho... it's really really good!
Love the video. You should def try a Fox 36.
I have an Orbea Occam M10 and the same frame can be used as a 140mm short travel or 150/160mm long travel bike. I went for the LT which came with DHX coil rear, carbon frame and Fox 150mm 36 Grip 2. I've put XC tyres on it, carbon wheels (I will be reducing travel to 140both ends too) and it really rides more like a down country bike. Fast, zippy and great climbing tractio. To make it really light, I may swap to lightweight inline shock, which would save a lot of weight too. For reference, I also have Scalpel SE2 and Mondraker Foxy R. The Foxy is very much more of an agrressive trail bike and the Scalpel you know well (I think of it as an overforked XC bike). Looks like Ibis have followed a similar route and consolidating trail frames and differentiating with build kit.
PS Love the vids.
I did the same with a Revel Rascal V1 - built it with light carbon rims, XTR etc.. it was one of my favorite bikes ever. I am wondering if this Ripley could be the same ?
I think it is awesome they added a bit of travel. It looks good too. I have Ripley AF and wish it had 130 travel.
I would love to see a comparison of the revel rascal v2 to the new ripley.
Great review. Seems an odd choice by Ibis. Unless they intro a new XC bike, they don't have a "smaller" bike they can bump travel and geo to fill the void the V4 leaves, kinda like Trek did with the Fuel EX & Top Fuel. Bikes always evolve, but this feels like a straight up replacement and not an update. They took a trail runner and turned it into a boot!
Yeah, sort of sad but the V5 Ripley is actually a really neat bike... just not what I was hoping for
Having followed Yum yum channel for a while now I can say 💯 Jase will not be getting this bike 😂!! I had a look at the V4 Ripley on Saturday and my god it’s soooooo light I couldn’t actually believe it , this V5 looks a bit like a YT
haha you know me well.... Yeah, it's a pass for me... sad to say. Been spending a lot of time on the new Cannondale Scalpel and loving it! For me, it fills that old Ripley role pretty dang well.
Great job on your channel and reviews. In about May, I just got a screaming deal on last year’s Scalpel SE, and I totally agree with your review. It is really easy to select this bike when going to ride an XC flavored trail. The climbing is made easy, and the descended is fun. It is light, so you have to ride accordingly. And I’ve just gotta ask, what on earth do you do for a living/bike $?
Awesome! Thank you! Haha I’m in sales🤙
I think a head to head with a Revel Rascal v2 is in the future.
Has Revel updated the Rascal recently? As I recall, very slack sta.....
@@mtbyumyum Yes, Rascal has been updated, V2... dropped some LB's, stiffer and slightly different Geo I believe.
Wow, yeah. Just looked it up. 76 sta 65.5 hta 451 reach and sub 1200 wheelbase... if it can be built at or under 27 lbs I'd be interested... I really liked my rascal from a few years ago but the sta was a bit slack.... full disclosure, I ran a 150mm fork on mine but with a 140mm Pike I bet the weight could get down... very interesting!
I’m excited to try this bike! I currently ride a Giant Trance (115 mm) and want a bit more bike. Didn’t feel like the V4 Ripley was enough, but Ripmo was too much. The V5 Ripley seems like exactly the thing I’m looking for in a trail bike.
Sounds like you're the perfect person for this updated Ripley! You are who they had in mind when making the update!!
Jason, thank you very much. It was a great video. I’d love to get that bike. I have both Ripley v4 and Ripmo V2 but the new Ripley would be perfect for me and it would be simpler with just one bike.
Maybe I can trade / sell them both in and get one😊.
Thanks again for the great video.
You're welcome! Call Chris at Salt Cycles and order one! 801-943-8502
@@mtbyumyum OMG you will never believe what happened. I met Chris last Sunday at Park City on the corner of Silver Queen and the Mid-Mountain Trail. He was stopped there with his kids, he had Draper gloves on, I said hey do you know Yum Yum from Draper, he said he was just texting you and introduced himself as Chris from Salt Cycles. I said wow you and Jason are my heroes. He offered to show me a good way down which was Mid-Mountain to CMG and it was great. What do you know I got to go Mach-Chicken (well kind of) with Chris and his kids.
I camped at Wasatch State Park it was fantastic. Day one I road up the paved road to the WOW trail and then down the trail, and it is one of the best / funnest trails I have ever ridden. It was on Friday the morning after the Thunder storm and the dirt was great. I also road the trails around the Campsite, Phosphate, Dutchman. Donkey Ridge,,,. Chris also said I should do the Crest and I did. It was an incredible ride!
While I was ridding with Chris I mentioned I wanted to trade my Ripmo V2 and Ripley V4 for a new Ripley V5. I am going to call him and ask him for Ideas.
I had a great time in your area and Thanks so much for your great videos, knowledge and passion. Patrick
I believe weight is a big deal and one many bike companies are falling short on. Everyone on UA-cam only shows the downhill rides, but the pains come from climbing. More isn't always better. All trail bikes should be under 29 lbs, in my opinion. This is a top build and its 29lbs, probably without pedals. Pedals are almost another pound. Bring back the 26lbs with pedals trail bike. I know several people with faster times on older lighter bikes. Most of that time is being made up on the uphill climb.
Truth!!
Thanks for sharing! Appreciate your insights as usual. Seems all the brands are shifting this way. The Ripley size XM is now longer than my Ripmo AF size L! I guess the market will determine if that's a good thing or not. Everyone is starting to look the same too: Ibis, Yeti, YT, etc.
Yeah. Sort of sad to see the changes.... that said, I'm really glad the new size medium Ripley still fits me so well.... Size medium Pivot bikes are HUGE and don't fit me.
Sounds like they should have left the Ripley V4 alone and made something to fill the gap between the ripmo and the Ripley, if there even was one.
Call it a "Tweenermo"😊. I mean after all the ripmo was a combo of the Mojo and the Ripley.
The Ripmo was a combo of the Ripley and Mojo.... why didn't I ever connect those dots. Thanks! Yeah, I think they should have called this new bike the Mojo 5... that would have been really neat and still left room for a 120mm short travel bike
Jason be interested in your comparison of climbing this bike vs other similar trail bikes out there now that you have ridden.
It's about the same as the Ripmo and SB140 as far as I can tell... I would need to ride time back to back to be sure tho....
As a bigger rider, i hate when the shocks are in line with the rear triangle like this, seems to require more air pressure to get sag, which means i would be towards the max pressure for this shock. I don't have this issue with the newer pivot linkage. So I'll stick with pivot.
Interesting. I had 140 psi in the Float shock... very low pressure and never bottomed it out.
@@mtbyumyum I have that shock and really like it, has been easy to set up. But Im having a hard time getting the fork right Fox 34 gripx. What are you running on it?
72 psi as I recall... 8 clicks out
@@mtbyumyum Thank you!
The 130mm + field is getting crowded. Might as well finally demo a Jamis Portal.
There are a lot of bikes I still need to demo..... wish I had more time and access
Which is more playful, the ripley or the 5010?
About time for another Ripley in your quiver. Sounds a lot like the Trail 429 or Tallboy now.
What do you think of your helmet Jason? The manifest! You seem to have a few different models of helmets.
I've been wearing Smith Forefront for the past 4 or so years. My wife recently had a very very bad crash... worst crash she's ever had. She suffered a concussion and badly damaged her Fox Pro Frame helmet in the process. After that I researched and bought all new helmets for us. We both switched over to this new Manifest. From what I can tell, it's the best/safest half lid available right now. It also fits me well and can easily hold my glasses with only using 1 hand to put my glasses on the helmet while riding. Giro Manifest Helmet: alnk.to/dAmP5mu
@@mtbyumyum wow, that’s not great news, glad she was ok though. Those types of crashes can really take it out of you. Hope she stays riding!
Might have to get a manifest then!
Yeah, thanks. She tool 3 weeks off then starting getting back out on the road bike. She's been out on 2 mountain bike rides last week but still with some neck pain so she'll likely give it a bit more time.... Thanks for your concern!
Thanks so much for your review! I have an original Ripley and bought a V2 Ripmo to replace it, but I still choose to ride the Ripley! I’m ready to get something new that feels more like the Ripley (I love that bike so much!) I see that Jenson has an exclusive Ripley XT in my size, what are your thoughts on that? I worry that I can’t demo it, but also feel like it’s my last chance to get a Ripley that feels most similar to mine. Would love to know your opinion!
V5 sounds closer to Ripmo V1 now. Maybe Ibis was doing a lot of market research and found people online always beefed up their Ripleys.
My thoughts exactly... I think this change would have sat better with me if we also got a new Exie V2 today to go along with these two new bikes... just to feel the gap between the new Ripley and current Exie.... Anyone disappointed can still pick up a V4 Ripley at huge discounts!!! Call Chris at Salt Cycles: 801-943-8502
@@mtbyumyumI’ve seen nothing for praise for new Yeti ASR. Is that bike a tad too XC compared to V4 Ripley?
Yeah, I think so... I've put over 200 miles on mine and my daughter just recently took it over as her xc race bike lol it's very light weight and very fast. The Cannondale, although similar to the ASR, is maybe just a tad more "trail" than the ASR.... both excellent XC bikes but the soul of the scalpel is a trail bike!! That's what makes that bike and the Pivot Mach 4 sl so interesting to me.... they're XC bikes with a bit of trail soul in the dna...
Thank you, great review. I enjoy reading you reviews having similar specs (5'9 150lbs). I've never owned am Ibis but would like to get a Ripley at some point. Unrelated, but I've also gotten a good impression of Yeti from your reviews. Do you think you'll review the new SB 135 with 27.5 wheels? I've had a Pivot Trail 429 for the last two years and it's been the best riding bike I've ever owned. I was thinking about also getting a 27.5 bike and the SB 135 is one of the few all 27.5 current bikes (and the Pivot Shadowcat.)
I've not ridden the sb135 but I spent a week on the Shadowcat and honestly, it's been on my mind so many times just never pulled the trigger on it. It's hard for me to pass up the many other excellent 29ers in the Shadowcat category... hope that makes sense? but I am one bad decision away from ordering a shadowcat... it's an incredible bike!!
“The rear end is plush and deep”. Uh yeah, it’s got more travel, longer, and is heavier. Unfortunately not everyone’s trails are simply long fire road shuttle runs up and then turn back down. Some of have to alternately pedal and turn while going up and down. This ain’t the bike for that. The last Ripley was perfect for that. Not sure why each generation of new bikes has to get bigger/longer. They could have added the storage, changed tube shape, tweaked the geometry a bit here and there but kept it spry. Oh well.
I mentioned it being plush and deep relative to the previous Ripley... as a point of reference.
@@mtbyumyum I’m just cranky that mtb “development” is applying one solution to everything.
If the frame lost 1.5-2lbs I'd be all over this. That 130/140 travel light trail bike segments is really lacking some options, especially since Specialized killed the Stumpjumper.
Yeah, the stumpjumper was very light weigh and a lot of fun... I struggled with the rear end a bit. Honestly, I bet that bike would be money with the new float shock!
@@mtbyumyum I just built up a SJ frame (non-sworks), luckily the website still had S5's at a great deal...full XTR, Float 34 GripX, with pedals sitting at 25.5lbs, only have a couple rides on it but it absolutely rips, probably gonna push me to get rid of the all-mountain bike.
25.5 lbs sounds amazing!!
Would love for you to do a bunch more 130 mm travel bike reviews: 5010, Smuggler, V2 Rascal, Druid, etc. 130 mm travel is the Goldilocks bike.
I'll see what I can get my hands on
Nice color, looks like Satin Army Teal.
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Maybe they should keep making the same V4 Cross Country/Trail Ripley and rename this new V5 the *_Ripper_*
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Bummer about the shock placement.
...a huge 👍 on swapping in a FOX 36
Thanks for the great video! This change to a bigger bike might be exactly what I am looking for. I have a Ripmo v2 now, and was looking for something that climbed just a tiny bit better. What are you thoughts on this Ripley v5, vs Tallboy, or something else?
Yeah, if you're looking for a slightly more "trail" Ripmo.... this is it!! Rear end feels amazing with lots of traction and buttery smooth!
Looks like sick bike, however the 1200+ wheelbase on the medium touch long for me.
Yep... a bit long for me for a trail bike... bike park not a big deal and welcome the stability but it can just be a bit much for every day riding...
I own the Ripley V4, this new bike is a hard NO from me. For my local trails, beefing up the bike just dumbs down the trail, decreasing fun for me.
I'm in a similar situation as you... let's wait and see what they do with the Exie!!
I'd love to hear your opinion on this vs the Pivot Trail 429 for someone who can only have one bike.
T429 feels lighter... not sure it actual is.... T429 feels more efficient with greater support in the shock.... V5 Ripley feels more easy going, playful and plush out back
Looks like E-bike. Last one was better imo.
The YT Jeffsy has an eerily similar design, frame storage, slightly more travel, and is drastically cheaper. At this point you're clowning yourself if you spend the money on this bike when the same exact frame is available from 4 other brands 😂
Great review. Have you ridden a V4 Ripley with a Fox Float shock and 140 34/36 fork? I’ve heard the Float is a huge upgrade from the factory dps shock. Curious how that would compare to the V5?
I've only ridden the v4 with the dps shock... I bet it would be excellent with the new float shock
So less travel than the v1 ripmo with probably a heavier frame weight. This is progress? Also, bring back the headbadge. The new logo still looks like it was stolen from some cheap airline.
Heavier V1 Ripmo with less travel... haha, interesting comment. thx!
The immediate thoughts that come to mind on this new Ripley is the implications it'll have on the future exie .future exie might be a reincarnated Ripley V4ish
Yeah, I think you’re right
Definitely seems a bit heavy.. My Ripley AF only weighs 30.2 pounds!! And I love the af with a fox 36 at 140 on the front
36 on the V5 would be money!