Cumtown fans are pretty great fans considering they all know not a single one of them has to pay anything for the premium episodes if they don't want to.
Bull. There is a reason a "Vietnamese" person is taking these down off youtube. Its really Nick but he knows how hypocritical it would be to do it himself
Good point. Edit: Nick's takes often don't make any sense. He seems to be consistent on this copyright thing, unless it's him taking down all these channels and pretending to be some Asian guy.
I think there's a difference between being annoyed someone copied your joke, and wanting to send people to jail for doing it (Nick is still a hypocrite and I'm gay).
Its fitting that this is the only video on your channel. I'm playing this clip to the judge when I'm getting sued for stealing all of cum town's intellectual property
It's true Latinos share knowledge, it's the old "stop copying me" or the "I'm not teaching you how to play this game or you'll have an advantage over me, learn on your own" thing that kids do, fun suckers, knowledge hiders, desperate needer of attention.
The Mickey Mouse example is surprisingly realistic considering there’s a homeless native guy outside my pharmacy trying to sell color pencil drawings of gengar he made. one of these days i’m gonna buy one, when i don’t need every penny i have to buy alcohol and weed concentrates
As a songwriter, I know a lot about copyright law in the US. They only are upheld for about 70 years. More specifically for music works but I believe that 70 year mark goes for a lot of other copyrighted works. But what this does is it puts original music into the public domain after that time i.e. classical music (not including the recording rights), nursery rhymes, and religious hymns. Its actually a really nice system for both the public and the copyright holder bc the works can be exploited for as long as they want inside that 70 years, but then when it becomes public domain, the public can use it to their advantage too.
whenever I see a business named "II," I always presume it's a crooked guy from NYC. if it's a restaurant and it's nice... _stop asking questions!_ [/stav voice]
Owning an idea does seem pretty bullshit. Many things are not invented or thought up by only one person. Plus it's not a physical object you can posess, and any other person/entity also using it, is not stopping you from still using it. An idea being owned by someone, simply slows progress and prevents competitive markets. It solely benefits the rights owner, by creating another barrier to entry, for anyone hoping to compete against them, in that market. That's why the American economy and it's "free" markets have nowhere near the competition that China's markets seem to have, in my opinion. China don't give a fuck about your precious ideas. And then there's owing a song etc. Would the rolling stones or the Beatles songs not be known as theirs by the world, if someone didn't own the rights to their songs? And why can't they just be happy when people want to emulate them or take inspiration from them? Shouldn't real artists be really happy to inspire others? Though I guess record companies and the corporate music industry slaves aren't really artists anyway. Just money-hungry tools of subversion
I fail to understand how "simply slows progress and prevents competitive markets. It solely benefits the rights owner, by creating another barrier to entry, for anyone hoping to compete against them, in that market." is a point you make against intellectual property rights. The barrier to entry is a necessity for an economy to not be bogged down by unlimited shit products, like China creates. Quality is always going to be better than quantity in every aspect (except for probably initial pricing in most cases). IP rights also protect people's from someone ripping off an entire idea that's already been sold as a product, and then just copy and pasting the same exact thing without any effort put in to its development. If you're a writer and you've spent 3-4 years writing a book, and then you publish it, you're going to be dissuaded from doing it again if someone just takes that book and sells it as their own. IP rights by default preserve the time and effort spent making an IP. Ancaps and right libertarians always give tirades about "competitive markets" and how they're this miraculous force that drives innovations and progress...but that's just not the case. The failure of any form of economic structure is always going to be the ethos that follows from it. Capitalism in its current form strives to subvert the "classical liberal" ethos of the west just as much as those shit stain leftoids try to do.
@@Youshallbeeatenbyme Didn't read all that, but there's a universal right to access culture and information also you're forgetting. It's why we have libraries. We should have them for everything, with everything.
The point is that intellectual property law provides an incentive for people to create things. Without it, big corporations will be able to steal and then outperform any idea created by anyone. imagine if, for example, Disney stole cumtown and now nick and the crew can't compete because they don't have the resources that Disney has
@@skyricq oh yes, I'm sure there is a compromise to be made, but to simply remove the protection altogether would really stifle a lot of art and technological advancement
That argument kinda sucks because Disney ruined Star Wars. The product has to actually be better, throwing money at it doesn’t necessarily achieve that. Even the last few Marvel movies didnt make much money at all, leaving their production crews as screwed over as their audiences. This also ignores that the appeal of podcasts like Cumtown and ChapoTrapHouse are specifically in their independence. You would loose much of the audience appeal if you were a corporate clone . Look at the corporate podcasts for godsakes. Theyre so fake
@@ultravioletiris6241 Disney did not create start wars. George Lucas did, and his reward was the sole right to sell the property to Disney and live the rest of his life in wealth. Had intellectual property laws not been a thing, it's likely that star wars would never have been produced in the first place, and even if it had been, Disney could simply steal it and ruin it except this time without needing to compensate George lucas You have a complete and utter misunderstanding of the discussion being had.
@@marcello9476 How would Disney have ruined the whole thing in your hypothetical? If George Lucas Star Wars was actually competing alongside Disney Star Wars, then the highly inferior product would be even less in demand because of the existence of a superior product. It wouldnt even be representative of the Star Wars stories people are consuming if the other options are available alongside. The Disney franchise would be bankrupt if they had to compete with superior fan made projects and studios that actually provide quality. The whole reason their version of Star Wars was solvent is because the coercive state forces it to be the only version no matter the quality. I dunno maybe you need a different analogy or metaphor because if Disney stole cumtown and cumtown was still going, the Disney version would be complete crap by comparison and no one would buy it. Meanwhile people voluntarily pay for premium cumtown even though the premium episodes are out there for free on other platforms. So to compete with that Disney would have to make a free product? Is that a joke?
At the core is a false premise that more resources = such superior art that nobody can compete. This is not always the case and Disney is a particularly strong example of popular art not always being accomplished by throwing money at it. And a strong example of how the lack of competition around their intellectual products shields them from having to make them quality. Theyre source of revenue is predicted on a lack of alternatives. The example would be stronger if instead of Disney trying LARP cumtown, Disney stole the likeness and started selling merch. They have access to more types and more distributors of merch, and so would be able to flood the market with TShirts more easily . But more resources doesn’t automatically = better podcasts lol
Nick is fantastically stupid in these takes. It's really hard to get things 100% wrong. You get just one thing right, people think you're an idiot. But get absolutely every single thing wrong? It looks intentional.
Copyright laws work both ways. If a smalltime artist works hard to create something then copywright laws protect them from big corporations fucking them in the ass.
Except the scale is already tilted so heavily toward the big corporations that it really doesn't matter and would in reality give way more power to everyone else to get rid of the protection.
Big corporations get big because of IP laws where they own the ips. Remove them and these “big corporations” that do nothing but buy up ideas would be reduced to atoms
Usually I can get a good laugh out of these guys taking the piss out of most things I like, 'cuz it's fucking hilarious. But Nick hit a real big brainlet moment here. There are valid times when IP rights are needed to preserve the time and effort someone spends coming up and creating an IP. They aren't just "ideas", sheesh.
Nah it's just common sense. Why would I pay someone for something that can be copied infinite times trivially at zero cost to the original creator? "B-but the creator needs to be paid!" If the creators idea doesn't inherently benefit them then it was a shitty idea.
Yeah, this doesn’t really stand up to even basic scrutiny. The idea of “owning an expression” is pretty fundamental to the operational standards of our society, actually. You can’t just go to a public square and start reciting Apple’s IOS code, or the GPS coordinates of nuclear missile silos. Certain expressions, arranged in the right order, can be incredibly important, and can often take a great deal of time and effort to construct, making them just as worthy of ownership as anything a skilled artisan might produce. A really good book, or a stand-up set, or a baby grand piano can all represent thousands of hour’s worth of human effort to come into existence, and you’d never think of wheeling a baby grand piano out the front door of a guitar center like, “oh yeah, IP is bullshit dog, this is mine- get over yourself”
lol true, what university do u go to btw it sounds cool. apples iOS code damn imagine some guy just starts reciting that yeeeesh! thatd be chaos in the public square!
The analogy of stealing a piano from guitar center isn't the best for IP. It's more like getting the specs and recreating it to sell as your own. Stealing from a company that bought the item for resale is physical theft lol
This is why we are allowed to pirate this gay podcast
@Darian Zielinsky You can listen to the premium episodes on spotify for free lmao he just doesnt give a shit
He makes more money than he ever thought he would. He can afford to not care.
Cumtown fans are pretty great fans considering they all know not a single one of them has to pay anything for the premium episodes if they don't want to.
Bull. There is a reason a "Vietnamese" person is taking these down off youtube. Its really Nick but he knows how hypocritical it would be to do it himself
Nick sounds like the type of guy that has every country's ages of consent memorized.
because he does.
Tbh It should be in every sight seeing pamphlet in the airports
Maldives is 9
The rest are irrelevant but typically between 14 and 18.
Another worth mentioning is Angola at 11.
Japan is 13 I believe.
@@MassiveBrainTrauma ua-cam.com/video/dGkq9THJHpY/v-deo.html
@@MassiveBrainTrauma Thanks Nick!
Nick lived in Chinatown so long he became Chinese.
The crucible of gayness.
Stay safe in these Vietnamese times frankie. Time to hit the mattreses
To late they got frankie and so many others so if you come upon those viet clips report so they can get there's
swear to god this situation has made me deeply racist towards those animals
ANIMALS
@@Meekmillan oh yeah, what are you gonna do, go to Vietnam and start a fight? How'd that work out last time?
@@JulianPerez-zv6os I know you ain’t talkin with the damn cartels outside. You better keep those curtains closed Perez
I bet right after this clip he went on another tirade about how Adam stole his joke again.
Good point.
Edit: Nick's takes often don't make any sense. He seems to be consistent on this copyright thing, unless it's him taking down all these channels and pretending to be some Asian guy.
He mostly just makes fun of Adam to make content not because it's a serious point. This is more likely his serious stance.
@@ronstanley7850 I think it was one of the other clip channels taking down the competition not nick.
Yeah Nick is really smart and knows a lot of shit yet has so many terrible ideas don’t know why
I think there's a difference between being annoyed someone copied your joke, and wanting to send people to jail for doing it (Nick is still a hypocrite and I'm gay).
Adam complaining about Nick texting during the pod. How times have changed...
Four chords is all it took for David Blowie to prove to a judge that vanilla ice infringed his intellectual property.
Of course Stav would understand a food metaphor
I remember when Nick brought this up at our sleepover last night.
Me too I’m gay
I stand in solidarity with nick by stealing the premium and not subing
I hate when smart people say dumbass shit.
There was a shop in my hometown that had Spider-Man as their mascot.
I just had a ‘bong hit transplant” 🍌
nick's most chinese move yet
Its fitting that this is the only video on your channel. I'm playing this clip to the judge when I'm getting sued for stealing all of cum town's intellectual property
Who is the guy that sounds like he is being electrocuted?
That's the wheel of fortune spinning
Lmao it sounds more like he's on the verge of crying
I’ve never heard such a trembling old lady voice in a man before. Who was the guest?
jamie fox
I'm gonna trade mark this sentence.
TM
Nick is a bit of a hidden genius
He is . Of course tho. The funnier you are , the smarter you are. Always true.
I’m a bit of an overt homosexual.
Look here girl, I'm an intellectual type *boop*
The guest sounds like he is tweaking out or something
It's true Latinos share knowledge, it's the old "stop copying me" or the "I'm not teaching you how to play this game or you'll have an advantage over me, learn on your own" thing that kids do, fun suckers, knowledge hiders, desperate needer of attention.
Latinos are Vegeta?
I’d like to announce my new PodCast: JizzVillage.
The Mickey Mouse example is surprisingly realistic considering there’s a homeless native guy outside my pharmacy trying to sell color pencil drawings of gengar he made. one of these days i’m gonna buy one, when i don’t need every penny i have to buy alcohol and weed concentrates
"I saw Yellowcard. It was awesome" - smh Stav lying again
As a wedding photographer that regularly torrents content 😂 I agree
I’m gay frankie
No you're not
Well you're not allowed in our social club no more.
@@Child_of_the_lie social club? He’s gotta GO!
As a songwriter, I know a lot about copyright law in the US. They only are upheld for about 70 years. More specifically for music works but I believe that 70 year mark goes for a lot of other copyrighted works. But what this does is it puts original music into the public domain after that time i.e. classical music (not including the recording rights), nursery rhymes, and religious hymns. Its actually a really nice system for both the public and the copyright holder bc the works can be exploited for as long as they want inside that 70 years, but then when it becomes public domain, the public can use it to their advantage too.
They why did Future Files go away? I need it back.
The Vietcong probably got em
That charlie something channel and other fake sounding American name channels
Im gay for intellectual property.
Taking money away doesn't mean taking all of the money away
IP is to protect capital bro.
It's not supposed to make sense.
So you admit, on paper, capitalism makes no sense? Bc thats what you're saying
@@Ghostgotjokes
Yes. Capitalism makes no sense unless you have lots of capital.
IP Man hell yeah dude
@@Ghostgotjokes yes.
is that guy under water?
never thought id say this but nicholas please come to brazil
whenever I see a business named "II," I always presume it's a crooked guy from NYC.
if it's a restaurant and it's nice... _stop asking questions!_ [/stav voice]
BASED
Good
Principled gay king
Anybody know what happened to scrtsqrl? I tried looking for the latest ep and I can't find his channel ☹️
The Viet Cong got him
@@Pentamicle They sent him into the jungle with a dumbo, he fell on a shit covered sticks
Just report any channel with animated goku gifs, those the viet ones, only scrtsqrl and tybayaga are allowed to steal cumtown eps
Any channel with monetization and shit load of commercials are striking the free og ones you'll know when you see them
He’s completely correct
Flanger effect
You can’t own ideas brother 🤣
It’s official. Starting my podcast: JizzCity
But the breakfast
My dog is gay with my girlfriend
Oh wow, a dude calling himself gay on a cumtown video, how unpredictable and hilarious
Hay 10 on woo tang
S-Town is great
It’s ghey
Yellowcard slaps
Adam: you can't own property, man...
Me: I can. But that's because I'm not a penniless hippy.... I am gay though.
I love North Korea.
Owning an idea does seem pretty bullshit. Many things are not invented or thought up by only one person. Plus it's not a physical object you can posess, and any other person/entity also using it, is not stopping you from still using it.
An idea being owned by someone, simply slows progress and prevents competitive markets. It solely benefits the rights owner, by creating another barrier to entry, for anyone hoping to compete against them, in that market. That's why the American economy and it's "free" markets have nowhere near the competition that China's markets seem to have, in my opinion. China don't give a fuck about your precious ideas.
And then there's owing a song etc. Would the rolling stones or the Beatles songs not be known as theirs by the world, if someone didn't own the rights to their songs?
And why can't they just be happy when people want to emulate them or take inspiration from them? Shouldn't real artists be really happy to inspire others? Though I guess record companies and the corporate music industry slaves aren't really artists anyway. Just money-hungry tools of subversion
I fail to understand how "simply slows progress and prevents competitive markets. It solely benefits the rights owner, by creating another barrier to entry, for anyone hoping to compete against them, in that market." is a point you make against intellectual property rights. The barrier to entry is a necessity for an economy to not be bogged down by unlimited shit products, like China creates. Quality is always going to be better than quantity in every aspect (except for probably initial pricing in most cases). IP rights also protect people's from someone ripping off an entire idea that's already been sold as a product, and then just copy and pasting the same exact thing without any effort put in to its development. If you're a writer and you've spent 3-4 years writing a book, and then you publish it, you're going to be dissuaded from doing it again if someone just takes that book and sells it as their own. IP rights by default preserve the time and effort spent making an IP.
Ancaps and right libertarians always give tirades about "competitive markets" and how they're this miraculous force that drives innovations and progress...but that's just not the case. The failure of any form of economic structure is always going to be the ethos that follows from it. Capitalism in its current form strives to subvert the "classical liberal" ethos of the west just as much as those shit stain leftoids try to do.
@@Youshallbeeatenbyme Didn't read all that, but there's a universal right to access culture and information also you're forgetting. It's why we have libraries. We should have them for everything, with everything.
@@Youshallbeeatenbyme if an idea CAN be ripped off from you, it should be.
@@JulianPerez-zv6os well why do anything then?
@@JulianPerez-zv6os in any functioning society, it should benefit you to benefit wider society.
The point is that intellectual property law provides an incentive for people to create things. Without it, big corporations will be able to steal and then outperform any idea created by anyone. imagine if, for example, Disney stole cumtown and now nick and the crew can't compete because they don't have the resources that Disney has
@@skyricq oh yes, I'm sure there is a compromise to be made, but to simply remove the protection altogether would really stifle a lot of art and technological advancement
That argument kinda sucks because Disney ruined Star Wars. The product has to actually be better, throwing money at it doesn’t necessarily achieve that. Even the last few Marvel movies didnt make much money at all, leaving their production crews as screwed over as their audiences.
This also ignores that the appeal of podcasts like Cumtown and ChapoTrapHouse are specifically in their independence. You would loose much of the audience appeal if you were a corporate clone . Look at the corporate podcasts for godsakes. Theyre so fake
@@ultravioletiris6241 Disney did not create start wars. George Lucas did, and his reward was the sole right to sell the property to Disney and live the rest of his life in wealth. Had intellectual property laws not been a thing, it's likely that star wars would never have been produced in the first place, and even if it had been, Disney could simply steal it and ruin it except this time without needing to compensate George lucas
You have a complete and utter misunderstanding of the discussion being had.
@@marcello9476 How would Disney have ruined the whole thing in your hypothetical? If George Lucas Star Wars was actually competing alongside Disney Star Wars, then the highly inferior product would be even less in demand because of the existence of a superior product. It wouldnt even be representative of the Star Wars stories people are consuming if the other options are available alongside. The Disney franchise would be bankrupt if they had to compete with superior fan made projects and studios that actually provide quality. The whole reason their version of Star Wars was solvent is because the coercive state forces it to be the only version no matter the quality.
I dunno maybe you need a different analogy or metaphor because if Disney stole cumtown and cumtown was still going, the Disney version would be complete crap by comparison and no one would buy it.
Meanwhile people voluntarily pay for premium cumtown even though the premium episodes are out there for free on other platforms. So to compete with that Disney would have to make a free product? Is that a joke?
At the core is a false premise that more resources = such superior art that nobody can compete. This is not always the case and Disney is a particularly strong example of popular art not always being accomplished by throwing money at it. And a strong example of how the lack of competition around their intellectual products shields them from having to make them quality. Theyre source of revenue is predicted on a lack of alternatives.
The example would be stronger if instead of Disney trying LARP cumtown, Disney stole the likeness and started selling merch. They have access to more types and more distributors of merch, and so would be able to flood the market with TShirts more easily . But more resources doesn’t automatically = better podcasts lol
Nick is fantastically stupid in these takes. It's really hard to get things 100% wrong. You get just one thing right, people think you're an idiot. But get absolutely every single thing wrong? It looks intentional.
Now just stop believing in private property and you’ll be complete
I own my house, try to take it and find out
Copy-leftist
Cum Town is very similar to the podcast known as Boner City.
Nick -> Ryan O’Neill
Adam -> Jeff Danish
Stav -> Andrew Dewitt
Copyright laws work both ways. If a smalltime artist works hard to create something then copywright laws protect them from big corporations fucking them in the ass.
Worst comment/avatar discrepancy I've ever seen
They should make money off of crowdfunding before they release their creation then
Except the scale is already tilted so heavily toward the big corporations that it really doesn't matter and would in reality give way more power to everyone else to get rid of the protection.
@@cyanplaza5153 Very good evidence that 99.99% of people who flaunt around the Stirner image have no idea how his ideas work.
Big corporations get big because of IP laws where they own the ips. Remove them and these “big corporations” that do nothing but buy up ideas would be reduced to atoms
Nick reminds me of a lot of anarcho capitalist friends of mine right now. I like this
Your story doesn't check out, anarcho-capitalist neckbeards have no friends
Anarcho capitalist? Thats like saying im a straight fag...
Usually I can get a good laugh out of these guys taking the piss out of most things I like, 'cuz it's fucking hilarious. But Nick hit a real big brainlet moment here. There are valid times when IP rights are needed to preserve the time and effort someone spends coming up and creating an IP. They aren't just "ideas", sheesh.
nick is a stupid but very funny person and nothing he says should be taken seriously
nerd
@@christmasbenoit9336 🤣 thanks.
Gay
@@albertseverino5576 that I am.
Shitty take but at least it’s funny
Nah it's just common sense. Why would I pay someone for something that can be copied infinite times trivially at zero cost to the original creator?
"B-but the creator needs to be paid!" If the creators idea doesn't inherently benefit them then it was a shitty idea.
He's right, IP law is pointless
Yep ur wrong idiot . Stop thinking you’re right while also acting smug.
Yeah, this doesn’t really stand up to even basic scrutiny. The idea of “owning an expression” is pretty fundamental to the operational standards of our society, actually. You can’t just go to a public square and start reciting Apple’s IOS code, or the GPS coordinates of nuclear missile silos. Certain expressions, arranged in the right order, can be incredibly important, and can often take a great deal of time and effort to construct, making them just as worthy of ownership as anything a skilled artisan might produce. A really good book, or a stand-up set, or a baby grand piano can all represent thousands of hour’s worth of human effort to come into existence, and you’d never think of wheeling a baby grand piano out the front door of a guitar center like, “oh yeah, IP is bullshit dog, this is mine- get over yourself”
lol true, what university do u go to btw it sounds cool. apples iOS code damn imagine some guy just starts reciting that yeeeesh! thatd be chaos in the public square!
The analogy of stealing a piano from guitar center isn't the best for IP. It's more like getting the specs and recreating it to sell as your own. Stealing from a company that bought the item for resale is physical theft lol
Yeah but who cares
“Hell yeah dude”
@@zachduran314 no shit dumbass read it again
lmao what an L take