ARRMA Senton 4x4 Speed Test on 8.4V NiMh, 2S & 3S LiPo
Вставка
- Опубліковано 24 лис 2017
- Click to subscribe ⇨ bit.ly/Sub-CCxRC
Here's a quick look at the speed of the ARRMA Senton 4x4 in its stock configuration. Hope his helps.
Join the CCxRC Fan Club. Gain Behind The Scenes Access ⇨ bit.ly/CCxRC_FanClub
My favorite RC and Video products ⇨ www.amazon.com/shop/ccxrc
----------------------------------
Connect with CCxRC
----------------------------------
BUY A CCxRC SHIRT ⇨ shop.spreadshirt.com/ccxrc
Facebook ⇨ / ccxrc
Instagram ⇨ / ccxrc
Twitter ⇨ / ccxrc
Periscope ⇨ www.periscope.tv/CCxRC/
---------------------------
Video Gear I Use
----------------------------
Selfie Stick for iPhone ⇨ amzn.to/2f4erlA
Camera ⇨ amzn.to/2fVhafT
VR Camera ⇨ amzn.to/2gh3zDz
Microphone ⇨ amzn.to/2fXqzpt
Wireless Microphone ⇨ amzn.to/2fXqP7Z
Cheap Studio Lights ⇨ amzn.to/2eFIyRC
----------------------------------------------
CCxRC UA-cam QuickLinks
----------------------------------------------
Most Recent CCxRC Video ⇨ goo.gl/yrZZEk
Most Popular CCxRC Videos ⇨ goo.gl/HBoMqk
----------------------------------------------------------
Best UA-cam Account Management
----------------------------------------------------------Tube Buddy ⇨ bit.ly/YT_TubeBuddy
----------------------------------------------
Disclosure
----------------------------------------------
The product shown in this video may have been sent to me for review. Regardless, I do not get paid to make the videos but many of the links contained in the description are affiliate links and I may benefit from a small commission if you purchase something using the links. It is my duty to you to provide you with my honest and unbiased opinion about the products that appear on this channel to help you make informed decisions. If you plan on making a purchase and want to support the channel using the links, I thank you in advance. I look forward to making more great reviews for you.
Excellent run , nice video !!
Word. Great video sir. Bashing vids gonna be awesome!
Definitely is a nice looking truck bud.. As far as the 3s lipo. Seems to be very similar esc to the Ae-5 axial which can take 3s... Thanks for sharing bud.. Great review.. :)
Yes 2s is 7.4v vs 8.4v nimh of course nimh will be faster. The lipo will allow more current draw and add some accel. However the weak brushed motor is not demanding more then the nimh can deliver.
Haha not sure about the 3s but thanks for giving us that info... love the channel
great video and nice look XD
Well put a fan on the esc and put a 4s on it and if it doesn't move you know it's maxed out.
I think you'll have to size the pinion up a ways before you'll see the LiPo provide a higher top speed than the NiMH in this truck on pavement if you see any different result at all. I don't think the 2s is really going to be noticeably better until you add a larger pinion and compare takeoff speeds which require high amperage versus top speeds on pavement that doesn't draw nearly as much amperage. Amperage draw creates a greater voltage drop on NiMH batteries than LiPo, so eventually the LiPo could win in a backyard bash trying to go through grass instead of over pavement. Also, from what I understand, a high capacity NiMH should have less voltage drop than a lower capacity NiMH of the same brand/line when under load. If you do find a scenario (in this truck) where the 2s does outperform the 8.4v NiMH, you might consider trying a 5000mAH 8.4v NiMH of the same brand to see if you notice the difference between 5000mAh and 2300mAh 8.4v NiMH. In an 1/8th scale MT bashing off road, I think you'd definitely see the 2s LiPo outperform the 8.4v NiMh.
Nice truck 3s took off. Wouldn't the 2s gives longer running time then the stock NM? Maybe not so much for speed. But for longer lap runs.i think.Thx for doing this video Tony.
When I bought mine my battery wouldn't even charge it was a dud. But I didn't mind I put a 3s brushless kit in it less than 3 weeks later. Running great now on 2s.
What kit did u use?
@@51-FS I couldn't even tell ya. I traded off it with buddy awhile back. Just about any brand 3s it can handle. Worst cade you sheer teeth off the gears and just upgrade to metal.
Das ist ja mal interessant 👌👍
I had the old arrma raider the esc dose ok on 3s I know it’s not 4wd obviously I went to brushless but I have ran that esc on 3s with the stock 15T motor
Would still be fun out trail running ;)
With brushed stock system it's not bad
Your review video helped me a lot on not buying that shitty truck. Instead, a Senton 6s BLX.
Good deal
Still pretty impressive for the power system though ;)
I run 2s on this and had to adjust my throttle trim and rate and also found out the controllers throttle limiter was on 75% out of the box. Even before adjusting though it was noticeably faster than the nimh battery was...
How fast was it with the 2s lipo and stock esc and how long did it last lol?
@@dakotag3487 much faster on 2s lipo with stock. I've since replaced the radio and upgraded to brushless motor w/ 120A ESC and now run 3s regularly...MUCH faster now ;)
Still, running 2s on stock was a marked improvement above stock. NiMh batteries just don't perform like lipo.i was getting a solid 15 to 30 minutes of drive time on 2s 5000mah 50c batteries...as an FYI, if you decide to go up beyond 2s you'll need to get rid of the stock deans connectors and put on some xt60's or 90's (I used the bigger ones) or you'll bottleneck everything, even if everything else is cherry ;)
Jake Jager thanks man so the 2s should come with the same connected as the stock nimh?
Nice video Tony. Great looking car but the esc and motor failed arrma. I installed a Helion 30a metric esc and 540 12t helion motor on my Wltoys L323 and it gives me 36mph.
I can't understand how a 12t motor being so slow unless it's the gearing
I don't get it about 3S on stock brushed ESC. In the manual it is writed max 2S LiPo
Your NIMH basic C rating is usually around 25C, So when you used 2S 20C You were rocking less power, in my Granite I run SMP 2S 60C and it goes about 60mph cause the C rating is 3x's Higher. Give it a shot,Love to see the VIDEO!
I ran a 50c 2s and it went the same. Did it in a live 360VR video. With this gearing and a 12t motor you’ll have trouble hitting much faster. Adjust the gearing and you might get 30mph with this one. I only got 25mph on 3s.
Wow that's crazy!
It has to be the esc!
@@kendallmonteith2934 its due to the brushed motor unable to deliver more power.
It's probably the motor overheating they're known for burning out. The brushed ones are.
Hi is this brushed or brushless senton ?
Great video. You have confirmed my suspicion that these trucks are No where near the 30+ mph that it's claiming in the advertising. Have you been able to get more speed?
Not sure why you're getting 19mph. I gave my battery a really good charge and it gps'd at 21mph. Later, changed up to a 27t and i was going 26mph
I guess with an upgraded 27t and 3s Lipo, it can surely hit that 30 mph but for how long 🤔
Awesome test Tony! Try the 2s again with a higher c rating, maybe a 50c.😉👍
That’s the plan. Had to find it and charge it. Just pressed on yesterday because the sun was setting
There might be something wrong with the bat, ESC or you have the controller set on 50% (or you are easy on the gas) because this shreds with wheelspin and wheelies on 3s, doing 50mph if kept straight.
Edit, sorry, saw it was the brushed now. Nice vid bro.
That’s what I was thinking doesn’t the controller have a power save mode
Brushless on 2s goes to 20 flat
I don't think 3s would burn it up because I just bought a ecx torment 1/10 and it says on the box chose your speed Nim 2s 3s and also in the manual and I would say that. That esc looks a lot stronger
I run mine on 6s and it goes 60 mph with stock esc and motor and it don’t hurt a thing. Yes it gets hot but it can handle it pritty damn good.
WHAT!? are you talking about a stock brushed Senton with just the battery upgrade! That's awesome.
ya
You must mean senton 6s model.
So with any 2c battery we put in we change the little black wires pins?
IF you only run LiPo batteries, you can just leave the pin set to lipo mode
What are those things on the body clips called? I'd like to get a set
ARRMA Body Clip Retainer
Do u think 11.4 v 3s 5000 LiPo won’t effect 35amp esc for burn?
It will for long usage. I was just doing a couple quick speed hits.
I put a 2s 5000/40C and got 25mph
On the NIMH battery it went 19mph.... Dont worry if it felt slow... If you race on a track, the top speed usually reaches 15mph on the Arrma Senton Blx 3s. But, MY Arrma Senton is a brushless edition, I tested it... It went 35mph.
are you saying on a track with the tight turns you never need to go faster than 15mph?
@@overnightclassic2 Yes, you can go faster than 15mph but that is the top speed I reached with a NIMH battery on a track.
@@doverpeck18 ohh I see what you are saying. Is that on the senton 4x4 or the brushless? I have the blx and i feel like it goes around 30ish stock but I don't have a gps. That's using 2s lipo. Fast enough for me
@@overnightclassic2 its a brushless 4x4
Finally a 3S on youtube I find.
Not recommended stock. 🙄
Yeah, I’ll take my risk lol
Hahah. Right on! That’s what I do.
@@NanceLvr how did it hold up?
xxxg0t3mxxx stream fine, just wasn’t as fast as my 2S.
Didn’t know this could handle 3S I will have to try it on my granite
How did it do on the 3s?
@@51-FS it's junk had to replace the leaking shocks the servo the motor burned out before I could try it and ESC the ESC just stops the car when it goes into lipo cutoff WHICH IS DUMB
I did this for my Senton, Granite and Typhon
I replaced the stock servo with a 20-year-old servo and it works better than the stock one which is sad it still works 2 years later I also upgraded the gear pitch on all three RCs from 48 to 32 Arrma said it couldn't be done so I have now spent more money on upgrading them than the cars cost new
BUY A TRAXXAS ANYTHING OTHER THAN ARRMA
Lost a mph, but could still pull 5T more on the pinion with the LiPo 😈
Hello how i can set the nimh mode??
Thanks a lot!!
might be late, but it's on the esc it's a pin it will have 2 pins, one for a reverse feature the other for nihm/lipo it will be to the right is what you want i believe even with the having reverse it's labeled. sorry if it's too late.
How long does it take to charge the stock battery with stock charger
Like 3 and a half hours to charge, it’s very slow
8 to 14 😭
@@wp240 got a smart charger now 2 years later
Has anyone ran this for longer durations with a 3s? @CCxRC did the motor or esc ever burn out (from non 3s usage). I also suck at reading manuals, and ordered 3s batteries for this and am debating on canceling the order...
I would only run the brushed motor on 2s. The motor will last longer on 2s
@@CCxRC true, do you think just cutting the throttle to 75% would work? My main concern is the ESC, I tend to kill motors pretty regularly. 😅
Nice test run, is it even rated for 3s?
I’ve searched and can’t find what it is rated for. I’m guessing only 2s.
no you can run them on 3s lipo no problems, I had to call arrma to figure it out
That's cool!
R.C. Trail Runners can your really???
@@dakotag3487 depends which one I’m pretty sure.
Did you adjust the slipper? It's set weak out of the box ...
What you mean by adjust the slipper I have one of these cars and I’m new to the Rc world...
hyelife11 ... That's what the red tool is for that came with the truck. There is a video on Arrma's UA-cam channel on exactly how to adjust. In this video, I believe the adjustment is too loose ... Resulting in slipping which is reducing the speed abit
O okay let me go try to find that video i was wondering what that red thing was . Loll would you know what brushless combo I can install on this car to make it faster ????
hyelife11 ... I've been thinking about the GoolRC 3500kv combo. But, I'm holding off until a UA-cam'r that I follow does his. I want to see what he puts in and how it responds before I commit to it. The GoolRC combo is only 40.00 ... So it's nice and cheap. Would give me a 1/10 SCT brushless for under 300.00 total.
hyelife11 .. and by the way. Only adjust the slipper alittle at a time. Too much either way will damage it.
I think it might not have gone faster due to the discharge rate. The 2s only pushing 20c so I think that's why it didn't improve from the first run to the second
Agreed. I just ran mine on a 2s 5000mah 50c lipo for the first time and it was deff noticbly faster. At least minimum of 5mph more ...if. It more could possibly be closer to 8-10mph faster only issue was I was getting a hot esc and temp security was shutting the truck down when I ran her hard :(
Throw in a 2s with 50c or better and you’ll be getting out of it what your 3s is doing. The Senton begs for a higher discharge rate
3S 😈 woo-hoo!!! ;)
3S is a no-no though. It will burn it up prematurely. I don’t read directions very well
CCxRC, ouch!!!
So the 2s is slower than nimh??
Nimh 8.v lipo 7.2 v lower voltage les speed
Hi, ¿do this ESC can handle 3S, really?
It is not recommended. I only did it for short bursts to get speeds fo me people who asked.
@@CCxRC well, I understand, preffer 2S with 110C or similar.
If the box saids 30mph no way are you going to get that with 2s.
Can it run a 3s on stock internals
No. The esc can’t handle
CCxRC but can the stock motor handle it?
Well it’s fair volts is your speed
i did 25 on 2s lipo
2s lipo only 20c.. please try with higher C battery
Done...and same results.
That motor would never be able to draw enough power for that to matter. A 5c and a 50c would give the same results with that set up
No reason. That weak little brushed motor would barely require a 10c lipo. Anything more doesn’t do anything. It doesn’t demand much from the battery.
Are u kidding me 19 with the Nickel metal hydride my Traxxas slash 4 by 4 brushed goes 25 plus with that battery
Doesn't matter who even uses nimh for more then a week
Lol. The Traxxas slash is way overpriced and obsolete. For the same price the Senton Blx 3s brushless hits over 50 mph out of the box. Don’t get the mega lol, drop the few extra bucks for the real machine.
Why would they advertise on the box it does 30mph when it only does 20mph?
Shawn Jobin That is with optional gearing. You can change the pinion gear to get a higher top speed. But it’s really only meant for on-pavement use. They gear them out of the box for the most general uses.
What pinion gear should I use for top speed of 30mph?
Shawn Jobin I’ve seen them hitting higher speeds on a 27T pinion. Haven’t tried it myself
I have the 27t on my senton mega and it did 26 mph with stock NiMh battery. Worried that i would kill the esc, i removed it. Now i put the 27t on my GoolRC brushless 4300kv setup and I'm still getting 26mph! Wth, i thought i can go much faster. Must be the NiMh holding it back
@@subietech2019 yeah the nimh is at its amp max at that point and cannot deliver any more power fast enough. Stick a 2s lipo in it and it will do close to 40mph on a 27t pinion with that 4300kv motor . But keep an eye on the motor temps.
Try 50c will go harder
I think you work for traxxas or there something wrong with that truck. Because I can’t keep the front tires down on mine🤣
You probably have the brushless version. This was the original brushed truck. My 3s BLX ones are hard to control at full speed because they are so powerful and the tires balloon a little. Those are super impressive for $300. This one is like $220 with a NiMH battery and fully RTR.
O ya that’s what it is👍
The slash nimh stock (22mph)
The slash nimh stock high speed gearing(25)
The slash with high speed gearing 2s (32)
Holme hobbies trail master 12t motors are way better then stock motor
25mph is a good speed for trail running ;)
😂 That had me laughing man. So funny (and true) 😂
A bit slower on 2s and I think it's a little low geared.
Definitely feels and sounds undergeared
why slow :(
You are always testing uphill. Test where it’s more appropriate. All your tests I have seen so far are all slower than other people’s posts. No wonder it’s an uphill. It’s not a good comparison.
The ground is pretty flat. Not sure what hill you see. At the end it falls off to the drain, but the run area is flat.