3:02 did not realize I was playing this part at 1.25 speed was like damn he can change his octaves so fast and clean like human auto tune 😮 😂 great singing man!
Warm Audio should have your test at there website, the best soundtest for vocal/preamp test! Thanx for this, my favorite is the Warm Audio 251 + TB12. Sounds amazing, Neve/telefunken sound! Wow, thanx for your great soundSamples! 👍
Agree! 251 sounds so great! Also the big 47 i think sound as great too! In one conclusion: Warm Audio done great things to made great products at great price 👍
What kind of info are you needing on the Warm Audio's 1073? I've got a handful of the WA73 & WA273EQ's that I use every day alongside some BAE 1073 and the new 8 channel Neve 1073. They hold up 1:1 with all of the other brands including Neve. (I wouldn't have purchased the actual Neve unit, except that it would have cost me more to buy 8 channels of Warm Audio, and certainly way more for BAE.) As far as sound, durability, and usability the Warm Audio units are right up there with the top names. As far as Warm Audio versus my actual Neve 1073OPX, the warm audio has a little more functionality due to the EQ, output transformer and gain trim function that the Neve 1073OPX does not have. They both sound fantastic though.
Thanks Carl for the great comparisson! I am not sure if I recognized all WA mics - may be you could add the list? I already own the WA-73EQ but listening to your samples I likes how the TB12 brought the vocal to the front specially with the WA-251 (?).
Another great video bro. You’re channel is gonna take off, I just know it. I already own the TB 12 and I’m in the beginning process of recording my album and I’ve been very itchy to pull the trigger on the WA73-EQ for a while now. Hearing your vocals I can honestly say that the TB12 almost has a bit more presence. I usually record with the tone button on and basically set the unit to as vintage as possible. In all reality, it almost just makes me wanna buy another one lol.
Definitely appreciate you for checking it out! And I’m agreeing with you for the blow up!!! I’m a fan of 1073 style pres! I do feel like there’s a fair amount of versatility with the WA273EQ. In my opinion the TB12 is an ignored/slept on pre for a reason I don’t understand. But they both can produce solid results.
@@carljohnson9096 Yo! Thanks for checking out the video. Every one is entitled to their subjective opinions and I totally welcome that. I definitely caught the cynicism in the comment about the “600 subscribers.” I appreciate the folks that follow me, and you don’t have to, which is also your right. But this isn’t the “Carl Johnson” page. You’ve actually commented on a video uploaded to the “Carl Moore Music” page. So to me, the page owner, your cynicism is irrelevant. I think I saw you mentioned an “A+ voice” and I’ll perceive that to be a compliment and say thank you genuinely. But as you’ve exercised your right to express a perspective, I’ll do such as well. It’s an idiotic ideology to presume that similarities correlate boredom. I don’t think Burger King, Checkers/Rally’s, Wendy’s or any other burger franchise said, “there are thousands of McDonald’s and to see another store would excite the market.” That seems pretty illogical to utilize that belief. Additionally, you’ve expressed your OPINION of the lyrical content. You left out the key phrase “(I feel) the lyrics from the 90’s... is not appealing in any way.” Correlation is not causation. Your opinion is a small sample size of an overall positioning on content. I do write my own lyrics but a legitimate lyricist penned this idea for me and I’ll defend it to the end. The awesome thing about music is the idea of “taste for preference.” If one enjoys the content I make on my channel, they’re free to subscribe here and other places, comment and continue to watch/support. If one doesn’t enjoy, they can do as you’ve done, express and opinion, hit the dislike button, and etc. Nevertheless, the intent of your position doesn’t really achieve much. It’s not going to alter me from posting the content, nor will it prevent me from responding. Like I tell everyone, thanks for checking out the video and contributing. A view (30 secs worth) is a view on UA-cam.
@@CarlMooreMusic in your opinion, are these two preamps equal to your Antelope Orion preamps? or you find TB12 and WA273 more vintage/colored vibe than the orion which is more clean is guess?
@@FFStudioMy yea they’re definitely more colored. The intention of the stock pres on the Orion are meant to be transparent. They have colored preamp emulations but the natural pres aren’t really colored at all. That being said, I like both the ToneBeast and the WA273EQ
Great review bro.Slick vocals!💥. I am busy making the decicion between the WA73 vs TB12. WA73 sounded brighter (in a good way though) and tone beast was smooth abit dull (not in a bad way). Which one would you recommand between the two - I mostly do vocal jazz/ Acappella Music
Thanks for checking out the video and the kind words! I feel like it depends on the needs. I prefer 1073 style preamps on vocals. I just personally like the what that style of saturation does. When I mix, I like to run kick drums, Tom’s and even bass through the tb12. I’ll use it to track bass as well but I think that preamp would have a different reception if it were made by a different company. In my opinion, it’s pretty versatile. All and all, I’d say wa73 EQ for vocals. But that’s just my opinion lol.
I think the TB12 is a slept on pre. It’s versatile and can produce solid results! I’m a fan of 1073 style saturation but i would’ve also used a little EQ if I were tracking the final vox as well as using some serial compression. Thanks for chiming in, watching the video and giving it a chance
Thanks for doing this shootout. The WA73 sounds like it has a little more air to the highs and the TB12 sounds rounder and slightly thicker. Would it be possible to post just the vocals without the track?
Can really hear nasal on vocal from the tb12 vs the Wa73. . .I love the tb12 on guitars, that's where it shines as far as vocals ehhh it's ok at best. Tons of other preamps at that price that are far superior. Should engage the eq may not be fair but that's what makes them different imo. Great job! Try replacing the guts on bit units, you won't regret it 😉
I just ordered a few days ago the WA-73EQ Neve clone model, waiting for delivery in the next few days. Do you think the Tone Beast (Black) would also be a good investment as I am considering that API clone model also. If they sound similar, I might use the money for something else I need. Any info you can offer is welcome. Thanks. Phil NYC Area
Tone beast on the 4050, and I hope it was a 4050 Audio Technica. I liked that one , also.liked the 87 over the 273. But on that song I would use the last black mic again hoping it was the 4050 Audio Technica
I read comments after listening to it, and I gotta say TB12 doesn't sound great on your vocals. WA273eq sounds excellent for how you project the voice and clarity. TB12 sounds incredible on electric guitar, that and WA76 compressor sounds insanely good. Probably one of the best guitar sounds I ever heard. BUT on vocals TB12 sounds a bit - plasticy Yes...that's my term now, it's like reducing resolution of the audio when you switch over to TB12. BUT...that may fit some voices, that are too sharp. It kind of muffles high frequencies, so that may work excellent for someone with really high voice.
I've got half a dozen of the same pop filters you're using in this video. Do you have any comparisons between standard mesh pop filters that break up the plosives versus these metal ones that direct the air down away from the mic? I could just not be cheap and go buy some to try for myself.
Thanks for checking out the video and commenting. I do have the nylon pop filters but I don’t have any videos made with them in use. You’ve actually given me another component to incorporate into my videos! Much appreciation!!!
@@CarlMooreMusic im looking forward to it brother. It's a damn good hook. Love the instrumental too! You've earned yourself a sub here and a follower on Spotify 🙌🏾 Thanks for these comparisons too btw, you've helped me finally upgrade my vocal chain from a plain ol rode nt1. Thinking I'm going to pull the trigger on the 251 + tb12 combo. Am currently making a alt r&b album with similar vibes to your music!
3:02 did not realize I was playing this part at 1.25 speed was like damn he can change his octaves so fast and clean like human auto tune 😮 😂 great singing man!
@@thevaultdwellergaming 😂😂😂😂😂 that’s hilarious! Appreciate the kind words!!!
Lovely vocals. Thanks for doing the comparison.
@@pastilance1 definitely appreciate the kind words here!
Thanks for the awesome vocals.
Great shootout my man but the real star here was YOUR VOICE!!! HOLY SHMITTTTT :o
Hahaha thanks for the love! And checking out the video!
forget the preamp comparison, this song needs to be in the top 10
Thanks for the love and checking out the video!
Warm Audio should have your test at there website, the best soundtest for vocal/preamp test! Thanx for this, my favorite is the Warm Audio 251 + TB12. Sounds amazing, Neve/telefunken sound! Wow, thanx for your great soundSamples! 👍
Agree! 251 sounds so great! Also the big 47 i think sound as great too! In one conclusion: Warm Audio done great things to made great products at great price 👍
Man great video.... You glasses game is on point... I was looking to invest in a WA273-EQ So I appreciate the video.
Thank you for the kind words and haha I try to keep up with my glasses!
I do think the 1073 options from warm audio are one of their best products!
That's a really good video, really useful !!! shoutout from france !!
Definitely appreciate the love!!!!! All the way across the globe!!!!
finally a real video on the WA 273
I totally appreciate the love! Just trying to provide solid content. I plan on doing a more in-depth video of the 273EQ in the future.
What kind of info are you needing on the Warm Audio's 1073? I've got a handful of the WA73 & WA273EQ's that I use every day alongside some BAE 1073 and the new 8 channel Neve 1073. They hold up 1:1 with all of the other brands including Neve. (I wouldn't have purchased the actual Neve unit, except that it would have cost me more to buy 8 channels of Warm Audio, and certainly way more for BAE.)
As far as sound, durability, and usability the Warm Audio units are right up there with the top names. As far as Warm Audio versus my actual Neve 1073OPX, the warm audio has a little more functionality due to the EQ, output transformer and gain trim function that the Neve 1073OPX does not have. They both sound fantastic though.
Thanks Carl for the great comparisson! I am not sure if I recognized all WA mics - may be you could add the list? I already own the WA-73EQ but listening to your samples I likes how the TB12 brought the vocal to the front specially with the WA-251 (?).
Another great video bro. You’re channel is gonna take off, I just know it. I already own the TB 12 and I’m in the beginning process of recording my album and I’ve been very itchy to pull the trigger on the WA73-EQ for a while now. Hearing your vocals I can honestly say that the TB12 almost has a bit more presence. I usually record with the tone button on and basically set the unit to as vintage as possible. In all reality, it almost just makes me wanna buy another one lol.
Definitely appreciate you for checking it out! And I’m agreeing with you for the blow up!!!
I’m a fan of 1073 style pres! I do feel like there’s a fair amount of versatility with the WA273EQ. In my opinion the TB12 is an ignored/slept on pre for a reason I don’t understand. But they both can produce solid results.
@@CarlMooreMusic Thanks man. I needed up ordering the WA73-EQ just to give it a try!
@@jorgiewtf good stuff! I didn’t use any EQ in the video but it’s solid to me! I’ve got the heritage audio ha73 EQ and I really dig both units!
@@carljohnson9096 Yo! Thanks for checking out the video. Every one is entitled to their subjective opinions and I totally welcome that. I definitely caught the cynicism in the comment about the “600 subscribers.” I appreciate the folks that follow me, and you don’t have to, which is also your right. But this isn’t the “Carl Johnson” page. You’ve actually commented on a video uploaded to the “Carl Moore Music” page. So to me, the page owner, your cynicism is irrelevant.
I think I saw you mentioned an “A+ voice” and I’ll perceive that to be a compliment and say thank you genuinely. But as you’ve exercised your right to express a perspective, I’ll do such as well.
It’s an idiotic ideology to presume that similarities correlate boredom. I don’t think Burger King, Checkers/Rally’s, Wendy’s or any other burger franchise said, “there are thousands of McDonald’s and to see another store would excite the market.” That seems pretty illogical to utilize that belief.
Additionally, you’ve expressed your OPINION of the lyrical content. You left out the key phrase “(I feel) the lyrics from the 90’s... is not appealing in any way.” Correlation is not causation. Your opinion is a small sample size of an overall positioning on content. I do write my own lyrics but a legitimate lyricist penned this idea for me and I’ll defend it to the end.
The awesome thing about music is the idea of “taste for preference.” If one enjoys the content I make on my channel, they’re free to subscribe here and other places, comment and continue to watch/support. If one doesn’t enjoy, they can do as you’ve done, express and opinion, hit the dislike button, and etc. Nevertheless, the intent of your position doesn’t really achieve much. It’s not going to alter me from posting the content, nor will it prevent me from responding.
Like I tell everyone, thanks for checking out the video and contributing. A view (30 secs worth) is a view on UA-cam.
appreciate the upload
Totally appreciate the love!
Wow..been waiting for this!!!! Thanks.. watching....
No worries at all!
@@CarlMooreMusic in your opinion, are these two preamps equal to your Antelope Orion preamps? or you find TB12 and WA273 more vintage/colored vibe than the orion which is more clean is guess?
@@FFStudioMy yea they’re definitely more colored. The intention of the stock pres on the Orion are meant to be transparent. They have colored preamp emulations but the natural pres aren’t really colored at all.
That being said, I like both the ToneBeast and the WA273EQ
@@CarlMooreMusic naissss..thanks for the info
@@FFStudioMy no problem
Most of all, I liked the bundle of microphone 3 warm wa87 + take 1 WA273eq
thank you for the comparison
Yoo thanks for checking out the video and commenting
Yeah man , thanks for your videos 🤙
Great review bro.Slick vocals!💥. I am busy making the decicion between the WA73 vs TB12. WA73 sounded brighter (in a good way though) and tone beast was smooth abit dull (not in a bad way). Which one would you recommand between the two - I mostly do vocal jazz/ Acappella Music
Thanks for checking out the video and the kind words!
I feel like it depends on the needs. I prefer 1073 style preamps on vocals. I just personally like the what that style of saturation does.
When I mix, I like to run kick drums, Tom’s and even bass through the tb12. I’ll use it to track bass as well but I think that preamp would have a different reception if it were made by a different company. In my opinion, it’s pretty versatile.
All and all, I’d say wa73 EQ for vocals. But that’s just my opinion lol.
@@CarlMooreMusic appreciate the response bro. Great work 👌🏽
No problem at all!!! Hope you get something works out for you!
great test, thanks!
Second mic and the wa273 sound really really good.
I agree with Zack!!!!! The real star shines through...and its you!
Doooooooooooooope 👏 Such a great voice man, killer killer demo G ✊
Much appreciation for the love!
hey bro, i would love to see s studio tour. Take US THROUGH YOU GEARS
Yo! I can try to arrange something!
Great video
tb12 is clean/full and sounds best on your vocals, but I love saturation on Vox so I would go with wa273
I think the TB12 is a slept on pre. It’s versatile and can produce solid results! I’m a fan of 1073 style saturation but i would’ve also used a little EQ if I were tracking the final vox as well as using some serial compression.
Thanks for chiming in, watching the video and giving it a chance
You can add color after the fact too though so the tb 12 in conjunction with some Plugins that add character could be a killer combo
Thanks for doing this shootout. The WA73 sounds like it has a little more air to the highs and the TB12 sounds rounder and slightly thicker. Would it be possible to post just the vocals without the track?
Much appreciated for you watching the video and commenting. I’ll work on putting the individual files in a downloadable link
🔥🔥🔥 Musiq Soulchild vibez
Can really hear nasal on vocal from the tb12 vs the Wa73. . .I love the tb12 on guitars, that's where it shines as far as vocals ehhh it's ok at best. Tons of other preamps at that price that are far superior. Should engage the eq may not be fair but that's what makes them different imo. Great job! Try replacing the guts on bit units, you won't regret it 😉
Thanks for checking out the video and sharing your opinion.
I have a UA 710 and a Wa73 preamp solid-state Tube and colored.. should I purchase the tone beast?
I just ordered a few days ago the WA-73EQ Neve clone model, waiting for delivery in the next few days. Do you think the Tone Beast (Black) would also be a good investment as I am considering that API clone model also.
If they sound similar, I might use the money for something else I need. Any info you can offer is welcome. Thanks.
Phil
NYC Area
Tone beast on the 4050, and I hope it was a 4050 Audio Technica. I liked that one , also.liked the 87 over the 273. But on that song I would use the last black mic again hoping it was the 4050 Audio Technica
All the mics were warm audio mics. The blck mic was the wa14. But thanks for checking out the video and commenting!
Does your SM7B (the one used for recording the narration) run into the Tonebeast?
I read comments after listening to it, and I gotta say TB12 doesn't sound great on your vocals.
WA273eq sounds excellent for how you project the voice and clarity.
TB12 sounds incredible on electric guitar, that and WA76 compressor sounds insanely good. Probably one of the best guitar sounds I ever heard.
BUT on vocals TB12 sounds a bit - plasticy
Yes...that's my term now, it's like reducing resolution of the audio when you switch over to TB12.
BUT...that may fit some voices, that are too sharp. It kind of muffles high frequencies, so that may work excellent for someone with really high voice.
Hi. Would it be possible to have the individual files please?
Shoot me your email address. I’ll dig for these files and send them over
Boy can sing
Much appreciation for checking out the video and the kind words!!
tyty
WA73 🚀🚀👌🏾
Thanks for checking out the video and commenting. I’m a fan of 1073 style pres and I appreciate what warm did with that pre!
I've got half a dozen of the same pop filters you're using in this video. Do you have any comparisons between standard mesh pop filters that break up the plosives versus these metal ones that direct the air down away from the mic? I could just not be cheap and go buy some to try for myself.
Thanks for checking out the video and commenting. I do have the nylon pop filters but I don’t have any videos made with them in use. You’ve actually given me another component to incorporate into my videos! Much appreciation!!!
Oh is it a tlm 103
What are the mics please?
The WA47, WA251, WA87, WA14 and the WA47jr all from warm audio.
What's the name of the track? Been looking for it on your Spotify! it's been stuck in my head for days man.
Much appreciation!!!!! I haven’t released it yet. But I will soon
@@CarlMooreMusic im looking forward to it brother. It's a damn good hook. Love the instrumental too! You've earned yourself a sub here and a follower on Spotify 🙌🏾
Thanks for these comparisons too btw, you've helped me finally upgrade my vocal chain from a plain ol rode nt1. Thinking I'm going to pull the trigger on the 251 + tb12 combo. Am currently making a alt r&b album with similar vibes to your music!
More 6k on the 273 eq
I notice no difference with Adams studio monitors...
Thanks for checking out the video.