Thank you for this and the other demonstration videos you've posted (of the Versum cello strings, etc.). I know it would have been more work, but since it's mentioned how the A-string compares with the standard Rondo A (and how its slightly lower tension influences the C, G, and D strings), it would have been interesting to hear the cello played a little with each (including a bit - a scale or a short passage or two -- incorporating the other strings). The video was nevertheless informative - thanks again.
Hi UnequalTemperament, thank you so much for taking the time to tell us your detailed feedback, it is very much appreciated! We're very happy that you like the video and we'll make sure to take your suggestions into consideration when producing further string demos! 🤗 Which strings are you currently playing and have you given our VERSUM and/or our RONDO (and perhaps RONDO Experience?) strings already a try?
@@ThomastikInfeldVienna Hello! Short answer: I've not yet tried the Versum or Rondo strings, but I've been reading reviews and listening to demos of them and several others. I have one cello strung with Chrome Spirocore G and C and Larsen solo A and D and another strung with a set of Warchal Brilliant synthetic core strings. Long answer: My “good” cello is a modest, modern workshop instrument. It’s loud and clear (if a little simple sounding) and projects well. It’s hardly been played for the last several years (long story), but I plan to start playing it again once I’ve got it sorted. The other cello (which I’ve been playing a lot) is a rough-looking but faithful Juzek from, I think, the 1930s or 40s. The Juzek is quieter, but warmer and more complex, than the first. Neither cello is what I'd call dark-sounding, though the Juzek is darker than the new cello. The Juzek has been strung for some time with Chrome Spirocore G and C and Larsen Solo A and D. They sound good on it --balanced and open. On a good day, it’s responsive and clear and the lows growl nicely. On a bad day, it’s a little muffled in the middle positions and I have to work harder to make it speak. :) I’ve not tried many strings on this cello and admit I’m hesitant to mess with it. Still, if I could, I’d like a little more fullness on the A-string, a better transition from G to D (the D is smoother than the G - I wonder if a regular Larsen would have been better than the solo), and a slightly stronger and more responsive low end. I suppose the open A-string is nasal (though it sounds good fingered). The “good” cello wore a variety of strings in university: Spirocore (chrome, tungsten, and silver) C and G strings with Jargar, Jargar Forte and Larsen Solo A and D strings. Evah Pirazzi and Kaplan strings made appearances, on top and as sets, among others. (Forte A and D strings made the top very powerful, but robbed from the lows to do it.) Right now, it is strung with a full set of Warchal Brilliant -- synthetic core and different from anything else I've had on it. Since it's relatively powerful and clear, I wanted to see if I could maybe trade a bit of that power for some sweetness, overtones, and malleability of sound. The A string sounds fantastic and the D is good - I can play closer to the bridge and do more with bow speed than pressure (a little like I imagine gut strings would be). The C and G are a little slow to respond and the whole cello rings so much that it’s like I am carrying around my own Reverb -- it’s too much and needs to be brought under control. I'll put on a new C and G at minimum, though maybe I’ll try a full set of something. I wonder whether to try to enhance the power and clarity of the Juzek and take the newer cello in a “gut-inspired” direction or play to their strengths (perhaps put the Warchals or something else “gut like” on the Juzek and put something powerful and modern on the newer cello). Of course, cellos are unique, and each likes what it likes. I can try to set them up differently or just try to make each sound and play its best. At the moment, I am much more familiar with the Juzek and how it responds. Whatever I do with the more powerful cello, I want it to be versatile enough for solo, chamber, and orchestral playing. Finally, the Larsen/Spiro combo has been durable - I appreciate that and hope that whatever else I put on will be, too! Sorry to think out loud at such self-indulgent length but, string-wise, that’s what’s on my mind right now! Cheers!
@@UnequalTemperament thank you so much for taking the time to send this very detailed feedback, it is very much appreciated! ❤ Wow, you have already tried a lot of different strings and we’d love to put you in direct contact with our experts via pm@thomastik-infeld.com for a personal string consultation! They’ll help you finding the perfect string set(s) for you and your instruments which create the best possible playing experience and the sound you want them to have!
Hi Eli, thanks so much for your interest in our RONDO strings! You can purchase RONDO single strings (also the RO41XP) and create your individual string set right in our official online store: shop.thomastik-infeld.com/de/produkt/rondo-violoncello/
Hi Gasparo, thank you so much for your interest in our strings! 🤗 Attila is always testing new products on his cello, but currently he really enjoys a combination of RONDO, RONDO Experience and Spirocore (RO41XP, RO42, RO43, S33). And in case you need help with your string choice, you can always get in touch with him directly via pm@thomastik-infeld.com for a personal cello string consultation! Best wishes, your TI-Team
nice job changing my mind on what strings to get for my daughter's cello. rondo might be the new set now instead of Pirastro Perpetual or your Versum Solo... By-the-way, i took notice of your tailpiece - what brand or model is it? I like the way the fine tuners seem to capture the string differently than most. thank you
played by a professional cellist who has the passion for music and his string.. amazing detail and articulation from Rondo !
Thanks so much for your feedback, glad you like it! Will you give RONDO EXPERIENCE a try? 😉
Just when I thought Rondo couldn't get any better, now I'm going to need this A string!
Excellent choice! We wish you a lot of fun and we are very excited to hear your feedback once you've tested it!
I use the original Rondo G string, and I love it! I’d really like to try out the Experience.
awesome, we wish you a lot of fun and we're really excited to hear your feedback!
Good to know the qualities of the string, but for the price would be great to have a one year review in comparison to the top competitors
Thank you for this and the other demonstration videos you've posted (of the Versum cello strings, etc.).
I know it would have been more work, but since it's mentioned how the A-string compares with the standard Rondo A (and how its slightly lower tension influences the C, G, and D strings), it would have been interesting to hear the cello played a little with each (including a bit - a scale or a short passage or two -- incorporating the other strings).
The video was nevertheless informative - thanks again.
Hi UnequalTemperament, thank you so much for taking the time to tell us your detailed feedback, it is very much appreciated! We're very happy that you like the video and we'll make sure to take your suggestions into consideration when producing further string demos! 🤗 Which strings are you currently playing and have you given our VERSUM and/or our RONDO (and perhaps RONDO Experience?) strings already a try?
@@ThomastikInfeldVienna
Hello!
Short answer:
I've not yet tried the Versum or Rondo strings, but I've been reading reviews and listening to demos of them and several others. I have one cello strung with Chrome Spirocore G and C and Larsen solo A and D and another strung with a set of Warchal Brilliant synthetic core strings.
Long answer:
My “good” cello is a modest, modern workshop instrument. It’s loud and clear (if a little simple sounding) and projects well. It’s hardly been played for the last several years (long story), but I plan to start playing it again once I’ve got it sorted.
The other cello (which I’ve been playing a lot) is a rough-looking but faithful Juzek from, I think, the 1930s or 40s. The Juzek is quieter, but warmer and more complex, than the first. Neither cello is what I'd call dark-sounding, though the Juzek is darker than the new cello.
The Juzek has been strung for some time with Chrome Spirocore G and C and Larsen Solo A and D. They sound good on it --balanced and open. On a good day, it’s responsive and clear and the lows growl nicely. On a bad day, it’s a little muffled in the middle positions and I have to work harder to make it speak. :) I’ve not tried many strings on this cello and admit I’m hesitant to mess with it. Still, if I could, I’d like a little more fullness on the A-string, a better transition from G to D (the D is smoother than the G - I wonder if a regular Larsen would have been better than the solo), and a slightly stronger and more responsive low end. I suppose the open A-string is nasal (though it sounds good fingered).
The “good” cello wore a variety of strings in university: Spirocore (chrome, tungsten, and silver) C and G strings with Jargar, Jargar Forte and Larsen Solo A and D strings. Evah Pirazzi and Kaplan strings made appearances, on top and as sets, among others. (Forte A and D strings made the top very powerful, but robbed from the lows to do it.)
Right now, it is strung with a full set of Warchal Brilliant -- synthetic core and different from anything else I've had on it. Since it's relatively powerful and clear, I wanted to see if I could maybe trade a bit of that power for some sweetness, overtones, and malleability of sound. The A string sounds fantastic and the D is good - I can play closer to the bridge and do more with bow speed than pressure (a little like I imagine gut strings would be). The C and G are a little slow to respond and the whole cello rings so much that it’s like I am carrying around my own Reverb -- it’s too much and needs to be brought under control. I'll put on a new C and G at minimum, though maybe I’ll try a full set of something.
I wonder whether to try to enhance the power and clarity of the Juzek and take the newer cello in a “gut-inspired” direction or play to their strengths (perhaps put the Warchals or something else “gut like” on the Juzek and put something powerful and modern on the newer cello).
Of course, cellos are unique, and each likes what it likes. I can try to set them up differently or just try to make each sound and play its best.
At the moment, I am much more familiar with the Juzek and how it responds.
Whatever I do with the more powerful cello, I want it to be versatile enough for solo, chamber, and orchestral playing.
Finally, the Larsen/Spiro combo has been durable - I appreciate that and hope that whatever else I put on will be, too!
Sorry to think out loud at such self-indulgent length but, string-wise, that’s what’s on my mind right now!
Cheers!
@@UnequalTemperament thank you so much for taking the time to send this very detailed feedback, it is very much appreciated! ❤ Wow, you have already tried a lot of different strings and we’d love to put you in direct contact with our experts via pm@thomastik-infeld.com for a personal string consultation! They’ll help you finding the perfect string set(s) for you and your instruments which create the best possible playing experience and the sound you want them to have!
Is it possible to purchase a Rondo string set with the RO41XP instead of RO41? Thanks much.
Hi Eli, thanks so much for your interest in our RONDO strings! You can purchase RONDO single strings (also the RO41XP) and create your individual string set right in our official online store: shop.thomastik-infeld.com/de/produkt/rondo-violoncello/
Dying to know which strings Attila regularly uses in his cello. These ones ?
Hi Gasparo, thank you so much for your interest in our strings! 🤗 Attila is always testing new products on his cello, but currently he really enjoys a combination of RONDO, RONDO Experience and Spirocore (RO41XP, RO42, RO43, S33). And in case you need help with your string choice, you can always get in touch with him directly via pm@thomastik-infeld.com for a personal cello string consultation! Best wishes, your TI-Team
nice job changing my mind on what strings to get for my daughter's cello. rondo might be the new set now instead of Pirastro Perpetual or your Versum Solo...
By-the-way, i took notice of your tailpiece - what brand or model is it? I like the way the fine tuners seem to capture the string differently than most.
thank you