Terrific advice for anyone looking to mod their cars - Ford or otherwise. Figure out your ultimate _performance_ goal for the car before you start modding, and then plan/budget accordingly. I have plenty of customers that spend way too much money on retuning because they either can't wait to do all the mods at once or they keep changing their goal. If they just took Alex's advice, they'd spend less money and be happier. Of course, for most that requires saving money for a little longer and waiting to get mods done - that's a real hard thing for some people to do.
I guess people forget that alot full blown race cars started out as a regular car and was progressively modded to what it is currently, not to many people have 100k to throw at a build, but over 2 to 5 years they can make the car what they want. Will they spend more that way? Sure but they will learn and have fun doing it progressively. Look at Rob Dahm, he's been working on the 4 rotor for over 10 years. It's all about doing thing when you want and when you can afford to.
@@csr801996 Not really what Alex was talking about here. Whether its $3k invested in a I/H/E NA setup or $10k in a boosted stock motor build, if you're paying people to mod/tune your car, planning ahead is a great way to ensure satisfaction and best bang for the buck. If you want to do most of it yourself and learn from all your mistakes along the way, then the Rob Dahm approach is fine - but long, slow and expensive - and about 1% of the market. Most guys just want to go fast and have fun for a good price - one reason why companies like Lund exist.
Bro your video caught me so off guard. I was like there's no way he's gonna still talk about gen 1 cars now, but man you told me everything I needed to hear. I bought a mt82 ruby '14 convertible with 60k miles and an airaid literally 2 days ago. this hit the nail on the head. I Know it's never gonna be fast but it is 100% fun as fuck.
thank you alex for all your knowledge and time ! Im lund tuned 3 years now, no problems, car picked up through power curve but most of all the 10r shift logic is 100 times better then stock! im factory air box and header e85 on a nitto nt555r2 and it full hooks from a dig at any light or street surface 355 gear pp1. What I noticed in the trans was my first gear at stock calibration at max rpm went 24 mph but when lund extended the rpm it goes 35 or so lol really pushed that gear out! my car does 0 to 60 in the 3 sec range on street and does 1.8 60' ! Next I will either whipple or ess im torn on that one lol !!! .
I think its good to grow with the car as your budget allows. It also lets you get familiar with more hp without going crazy. I have a 19gt mt proharger stg2 i ran it on a 4.75 on 91 made 7psi, was fun. About a year later i made the switch to e85 and turned the boost up with a 4.0 then a 3.75 pulley (16psi) i knew i wanted big boy power but i didnt want it all at once. Also doing it that way let the bank account recover. Fuel system/wheels/prochager/headers ran around 18 to 20k in parts with me installing everything
I got a Lund tune for 10r80 performance and my power adder was E85. I already know there just isn't much left on the table for a stock vehicle on oem parts. I graduated from a Mazdaspeed 3 that I tuned myself with an accessport and accesstuner to make my own maps, making more power on a modern FI 4 cylinder is easy that has electronic boost control until IAT's become a problem.
Great video thanks…any advice on best flash device? Also, how much weight in sand bags do you recommend on a supercharged 2018 Mustang GT 10R80? Thanks in advance!!!
Nah that's mostly boosted factory cars like the b58 supra m3 and others. They get crazy power on just a tune but it's because they are DRASTICALLY detuned from the factory.
My plan was to spend the least amount out n/a power as possible while still making a little more than stock power so I threw a boss manifold, cold air(the one you hate) offroad x pipe and a tune. That's it until I can afford boost. I may throw injectors and an e85 tune on it but it's honestly plenty fast for where I live. Not a lot of fast cars here.
Hi Alex, great video with alot of good info. I've always explain to people so many times that you should work on suspension, weight saving and a good tire setup first. I do have a question about the 10r80 which my car has. I'm starting to get the random harsh shifting shifting that a lot of people tend to get with the 10-speed. I have done the disconnecting of the battery to reset the PCM and TCM. Seems to fix the issue for around first 500 mi. Then it reverts back. I have read on mustang 6G forms people using forscan to clear the adaptive learning tables and with the new forescan update you can actually turn off completely the adaptive learning tables. Everyone I've seen that's done this. It fixes the issue and everyone seems to be amazed on how great it shifts. Do you recommend this as a good idea if I turned the adaptive learning tables off and do you think this could possibly void your warranty or cause damage to the transmission
Hello! Thanks for sharing the informations. They’re very informative! I have a 13’ Boss 302 and thinking to get a tune done on it, which tuning would you recommend for a boss 302?
Alex I have a quick few questions. So eventually I want boost for my 2022 mustang GT but for now I have a closed box aftermarket CAI and a resonator delete. I love the way it sounds and get compliments all the time. How much extra power could I get with those mods with a 85 tune? Or should I wait until I get boost before tuning?
Fairly new to tuning only on my third mustang with a tune. I had a 2017 Ecoboost with Cobb Stage 1 and the switched over to PD tuning. I found car basically the same with both tunes. PD was a little more fine tuned. Since I did not want anything but 93 pump gas and stock turbo really limited me. In my personal opinion I found the tune just enhanced what was really already there from factory. Took out some of the limiter’s that Ford installed from factory.
This was a great video Alex. Very realistic approach. Would love to see a vid on what a tuner expects (especially Lund) customer to do/how to datalog properly to save time and headache vid next or in the future. I used to mess with jdm cars when I was younger and rom tuned. This is muuuuch different so maybe give some advice on the process of data logging, pulls, ect. For the tuner to use obviously im not asking you to tell us how to tune the car. Im more suggesting a how to properly datalog and send for dummies. (Like myself lol)
@@csr801996 I more meant the process needed for dealing with Lund tuner. But fair enough I'll go back into his older videos and see if I can find it. Thanks for the info. Like I said used to rom tune my ecm on older jdm cars but remote tuning new for a boomer like me. I'm trying to get everything ready for Lund tune before I hit them up and waste their time.
Alex I have a question so obviously I want to be tuned by Lund with my new setup and would like Lund’s input on the parts I’m going to use injectors, intake ect.. Should I buy the tune now and get the input then get the actual tune later once my car is put together?
I am a new owner of a 2013 gt(bought almost compleatly stock with low miles). I dont plan on tracking or dragging the car, just a fun weekend car. I go back and forth on mods/tune. Do you think it is worth it for someone with the use i plan to do? Dont want to do anything too drastick that cant be reversed
I love this video. Thanks man! Ive got a basically stock 2015 gt. Given im in the California of europe, I'd just be happy getting a snappier than stock tune. I don't give a fuck about the numbers. That's a tool for the tuner. Means nothing for me when I'm coming up against R8's or GTS Mercs... I just wanna have fun in my car and have it not be a lazy 440hp...
This is interesting because a local tuner said he can get me 40rwhp on an flex/E85 tune. Now I'm wondering if I should just wait to get a Lund tune. 2018 mt82 car currently has a Roush intake (thanks to CA), and MBRP street catback, was going to install a ported intake with a 90mm throttle body I'd bought a while ago. Looking to go with an ESS G3 eventually. Would it be good to get it tuned now, install the intake and throttle body, get a revision, and then revision again when the boost comes? Or just wait for the boost. This would be a roll race and weekend car. BTW, thanks for the informative videos like this. The guidance is always appreciated.
I couldnt agree more with the sandbags. During the summer time my restaurants ice machine stopped working so i had to go to costco to buy multiple 20 lbs bags of ice (prob added up to around 180-200 lbs total) and put it in the trunk of my '19 gt. My car never felt better speeding off a signal or speeding up while driving.
Great video. Thank you I have so many ???? Lol. I have a 13 Gt with stage 2 Procharger😅, OPG’s, venom twin disc clutch Steeda springs with sport touring shocks. I’m thinking next mod will be a watts link. My biggest issue is finding places to run Wot in the Tampa / Hernando area!?!? Any help appreciated. Looking for smallish tracks to run on but not to dig race, I just wanna run wide open somewhere other than Mexico.
SO many are stuck on peak power and torq (THE MAX NUMBER). Really its power across the curve starting from low RPM how it pulls. I still remember all chevy guys I have 2.02 heads I'm badass LOL. Or had them ported so now engine peaky and has very very narrow power band. My brother asked me to help me with engine for his 85 buick back then. Took 305 short block, 350 truck head, 1966 327 vett cam, performer intake and 600 cfm holley. Smacking the crap out of 350 Z28 especially light to light. No way that 305 it can't be LOL. My 351C with 4v heads (2.19 intakes) was dead under 3000 RPM but above that was like a switch being turned on.
OMG , I used to argue with my son and his box tune he paid to have a shop install. He swore his cai and the tune was making 30-50 more rwhp. I kept saying that is NOT the case. He swore because a shop installed the tune on his programmer that it made it a custom tune. I repeatedly argued if your not logging and a tuner is tweaking it and it came on a store bought tuner it isn't custom. He swore the almost $300 he pd to have the shop install his tuner tue was custom. Soo I proved my point by adding a ported manifold, pmas, e85, 3" open flow master exhaust and a custom tune that has been logged and then tweaked by my tuner , that his ice cream dreams were just dreams. We ran a 1/8th and by 300' I had to literally stop and wait on him to catch up. He looked and sounded great though......Thank you for putting some facts and common-sense explanation vids bruh!
Your awesome thanx man Ac guy in St Augustine with 2014 gen 1 coyote (with MT82 problems, working on that now) Haven't had thw car long but got a VMP tune with the 2018 intake manifold and JLT cai , they gave me an sct x4 tuner device i haven't even picked up yet because i haven't a clue lol, cars definitely not fast enough, just want to race whoever pulls up on the street and stand a chance with most..... oh the car has some race stars on the back with some MT et street r 305/45/17's New to the game and having fun, I used to race occasionally full contact banger racing fir laps in England out of Ringwood (matchams) my father was the number one driver and won loads of championships...all thid means is i like cars and can drive a touch but not much Always wanted an American mustang, now im old amd have no idea what to do with it Should i just get a better mustang or does this thing have a chance for me to have a good laugh and piss off my wife?
Great video, thank you for all that information, you gained a subscriber. I recently bought a mustang Mach 1, the only thing I've done was the muffler delete and H pipe. What do you think I should do next? I want to keep my car natural aspirated and really don't want to do anything that could void the extended warranty. Ideally I want to improve performance and like you said, be ready if someone rolls up on me in the highway. I was thinking kook long tube header 1 7/8, any other suggestion or advice?
@@YDBT4LIFE do headers void the warranty? and does it need a tune? I've seen some contradicting posts and how could potentially cause the car to "run lean"
Hey man! I’ve got a 13 gen 1 5.0 and I’m running a JLT CAI boss 302 intake manifold long tube headers Catless x pipe and I just ordered LU47 injectors to go E85 and was just curious what you think I should go with next? I daily this car and occasionally do roll racing try to stay away from digs because I daily it
Also just to note I have a adjustable pan hard bar BMR trailing arms and 1.5 inch lowering springs from BMR, my drive shaft seems a bit bigger than factory but not 100% sure because I bought the car with it
People are crazy with their expectations. Ive had my gen 3 coyote for over a year now and its plenty for street driving for me, havent lost to any of my buddies on a roll and i plan to keep it simple, pmas cold air, switchfire midpipe and a tune🤷♂️ if i could make 450-460 wheel i would be happy
Can you go the best n/a route and then later go boost with all those parts or does that change things?? Just curious. Finally got me a 2011 gt premium 😊
So just moved to Fl Haines city. Coming from 5500ft elevation I have a 14 gt500 modded do I need a new tune? Also wondering if anyone has anything good to say about mid Florida dyno? It’s right the street from me. Or should I take the trip up the road and take it to VMP?
Ok sounds great do you think it is easy for me to get the tune from you guys and upload it pretty easy I’m not really good with computers and all that. And what mustang GEN do you recommend me getting? I would love to have an automatic that does great to modifications I’m thinking a GEN two and what long tube headers do you like for those cars and I’d like to put up a set up for just the street daily driving and getting on it once in a while probably in a
First thing we do here at the shop, know what are the future plans with the car! And for other shops if the costumer wants something simple please don’t sell him a cold air intake😉
What should I expect from a Lund 93 or e85 tune as far as WOT shifting feel on a Base 20 GT 10r80. Will it still shift softer like stock or will it shift like Drag strip mode on the higher trim cars?
My Auto 13’ GT is bone stock aside from bigger wheels and tires and I believe it was lowered by the previous owner. It’s total miles is going on 180k but my dad and I recently replaced the engine to one with about 47k miles. Since then I’ve been looking for other way to tune up the car. I’ve been told that some times are more aggressive than others but after this video I have a question. Since its stock, would it matter which tune or tuner I go with? Not looking for big power increase but a better performing and smoother engine and trans. and maybe a little better lower end power. Eventually do want to throw some more power into it.
Hey Alex would you recommend a tune after installing kooks long tube headers and cats with full roush catback and xpipe on a 21 gt 10r80?. Or can I run the car without a tune?
Gen1 n/a guy here - I daily my car, got a Lund tune AFTER I modded the rear suspension, which in my opinion is junk from the factory. Cold air with factory filter box, free-flowing exhaust - the car performs well for what it is. Lamenting the fact that e85 is too uncommon in my area, sighs.
So im trynna run a IMRC delete, ghost cam, and cat delete all with lund tuning. I was wondering if that is possible. Im only asking cuz i’ve looked everywhere online and no one has done it yet. Thanks!
This is why you got the fox to dick with. To go back to the foundation and cleanse your palate. Couldn't imagine the messages you've got to deal with. Love your channel though, corvette, truck, stangs, all of it. Actually leaning towards denali/escalade with your reviews. Thanks bro.
I bought a tune because I put long tubes and a warm air on a gen 2 F150 - which is speed density. Otherwise, I probably would've left it on the normal tune.
Alex, what would you recommend for a completely bone stock gen1 6r80 daily driver? I don't race, but get tempted whenever some kid with a Honda or Subaru roll up on me., I just want a little more oomph just in case.
My dad has an 11 gt500 with a Ford racing Whipple supercharger package on it. Do you think that car would benefit any from a tune from Lund? He's talked about getting it tuned and I gave him a smaller pulley for it for Christmas one year but he hasn't pulled the trigger on a tune yet.
@@purplerange210 I did. I dont know how good those tunes from Whipple are. I dont know if there might be some power left on the table or something else Lund can do to make the car perform better overall. I assume it would benefit from a Lund tune but I dont know. That's why I asked.
The advantage of a tune is having proper fueling. Factory tune seems to run lean at tip-in. And then torque management is another issue stealing performance. My journey started with a whipple tune on a gt350. The tune was terrible! Lots of knock, the fueling didn't really start until 90 percent throttle. Stupid! The Lund Tune has proper fueling and I dont have to worry about the knock. Save yourself a headache and get a Lund Tune.
Alex ⚾️🇲🇽 good morning I’m from San Diego California I am not really familiar with where are you located but I had a guy that I follow very well and intelligent in the dodge platform now I would like to buy a GEN two or GEN three mustang daily to mod and have fun I’m glad I found you. Is there anyway we can talk and I could text you or email you stuff that I want to do to help me out which ones to get I have a good idea but I do not understand how to buy the parts I have these people in town install them because once they want to install them they want two of them has a package but I wanna get the tune from you, so which way should I go?
Should I get a tune to get rid of rough idle issue? Cause I send car 3 times to dealer for the same reason in the past 2 years and the problem persist.
I have a stock 2020 mustang gt 10r80 that I want to do some mods to. I would love to have around 550-600 horse power some day just for fun. My goal is just faster acceleration and a louder exhaust. Not sure if this can be achieved for under 10K though.
Idk if you’ll see this comment but if you do I would really appreciate a response. I have a 09 Saleen supercharged mustang and I’m looking for a handheld tuner with a tune for a jlt 3 cold air intake. Idk if it matters but I just want a fast reliable daily car, Any recommendations?
Fast daily reliable Coyote mustang. Sell yours. Buy a coyote Headers, E85 and a boss intake or 18 manifold. 3v are just not it for anything decently powerful.
That's why I like a my 2023 GT six speed. I CONTROL the shifts. If I had an Auto I would have to tune in order to change the shift point. OR, shift manual and maybe take the auto out. I had a friend who took the "auto" out of his Caddy and blew the motor. I like to run on the highway and go distance. I'm fixing to upgrade my suspension. I'm 61 and I'm done with stop light to stop light or drag. I just want to enjoy the car and the drive before I hit the casket. Racing stop light to stop light, racing on an unprepped surface? You get to the casket faster and might take someone else with you. At the same time I say this, I don't want to be a stupid Boomer, I understand the stop light to stop light and all that. Have fun, stay safe and enjoy your time while you got it. That's the main things. Life is short live it as you see fit. I love heading out on the long Texas highways and just letting the Horse run. There are a lot of lone places here Texas that one can do that. I'm lucky enough to live in rural Texas. Farm to market roads are all over the place. My Mustang begs to be let loose. I love driving. It's the DRIVE, the wind with windows down, dual exhaust playing the music. Yeah, it's all about Freedom and the moment for me.
Speaking on weight bias I ran a 12.59 quarter on the dragy with my buddy who probably weighs 180# in the passenger seat and I was spinning like crazy on the launch and through 3rd gear. That got me wondering what it'd do if I threw 180# in the trunk and ditched my buddy! 😂
I love the lives but my god I miss these old school informational topic of the the day based videos
Same
Terrific advice for anyone looking to mod their cars - Ford or otherwise. Figure out your ultimate _performance_ goal for the car before you start modding, and then plan/budget accordingly. I have plenty of customers that spend way too much money on retuning because they either can't wait to do all the mods at once or they keep changing their goal. If they just took Alex's advice, they'd spend less money and be happier. Of course, for most that requires saving money for a little longer and waiting to get mods done - that's a real hard thing for some people to do.
Patience is a virtue
I guess people forget that alot full blown race cars started out as a regular car and was progressively modded to what it is currently, not to many people have 100k to throw at a build, but over 2 to 5 years they can make the car what they want. Will they spend more that way? Sure but they will learn and have fun doing it progressively. Look at Rob Dahm, he's been working on the 4 rotor for over 10 years. It's all about doing thing when you want and when you can afford to.
I’ve been to ur shop for dyno time
@@csr801996 Not really what Alex was talking about here. Whether its $3k invested in a I/H/E NA setup or $10k in a boosted stock motor build, if you're paying people to mod/tune your car, planning ahead is a great way to ensure satisfaction and best bang for the buck. If you want to do most of it yourself and learn from all your mistakes along the way, then the Rob Dahm approach is fine - but long, slow and expensive - and about 1% of the market. Most guys just want to go fast and have fun for a good price - one reason why companies like Lund exist.
Thank you. This is the conversation a lot of people need to hear.
Thank you for the solid advice, I’m remembering all this when I order my tune 💯🙏🏼
Bro your video caught me so off guard. I was like there's no way he's gonna still talk about gen 1 cars now, but man you told me everything I needed to hear. I bought a mt82 ruby '14 convertible with 60k miles and an airaid literally 2 days ago. this hit the nail on the head. I Know it's never gonna be fast but it is 100% fun as fuck.
Love the quality Alex! Keep the great work
Very, very good info.
A lot of people get this so mixed up, and think it's just the tune, but forget other supporting mods.
Great video!!!!
Thank y’all for turning my car it’s been flawless for two years on e85
Made 860 whp
Your very welcome sir 🏁🏁🏁 did mom take care of you?
thank you alex for all your knowledge and time ! Im lund tuned 3 years now, no problems, car picked up through power curve but most of all the 10r shift logic is 100 times better then stock! im factory air box and header e85 on a nitto nt555r2 and it full hooks from a dig at any light or street surface 355 gear pp1. What I noticed in the trans was my first gear at stock calibration at max rpm went 24 mph but when lund extended the rpm it goes 35 or so lol really pushed that gear out! my car does 0 to 60 in the 3 sec range on street and does 1.8 60' ! Next I will either whipple or ess im torn on that one lol !!!
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I genuinely enjoy listening to alex talk about informational content
I think its good to grow with the car as your budget allows. It also lets you get familiar with more hp without going crazy. I have a 19gt mt proharger stg2 i ran it on a 4.75 on 91 made 7psi, was fun. About a year later i made the switch to e85 and turned the boost up with a 4.0 then a 3.75 pulley (16psi) i knew i wanted big boy power but i didnt want it all at once. Also doing it that way let the bank account recover. Fuel system/wheels/prochager/headers ran around 18 to 20k in parts with me installing everything
Things usually go better when you listen, learn, than make an educated decision. Excellent video.
Very informative video for the people who aren’t familiar with coyote cars 👍
Video quality is crazy good!! Good info 👌
Alex thanks for the vids, they’re great and very informative 👍🏽
Thank you for this Alex.
This was a great Video! Perfect.. Just what I needed to hear..
They are called Performance tunes, and not Horse Power tunes for a reason. Great video as always.
I got a Lund tune for 10r80 performance and my power adder was E85. I already know there just isn't much left on the table for a stock vehicle on oem parts. I graduated from a Mazdaspeed 3 that I tuned myself with an accessport and accesstuner to make my own maps, making more power on a modern FI 4 cylinder is easy that has electronic boost control until IAT's become a problem.
Thank you I’m looking to go at 515hp and looking on how to set everything up
Great video thanks…any advice on best flash device? Also, how much weight in sand bags do you recommend on a supercharged 2018 Mustang GT 10R80? Thanks in advance!!!
Very well said young man. Appreciate you. By the way I gots the package today. Much Thanks.
This was a very informative video! I love these and really helps put into perspective your goal with the build in reference to tune requests
Great video, I still haven’t gotten a tune yet but Lund is the way to go for me.
Great video Alex thanks 👍
Thank you for sharing.
This man knows what’s up
I knew just from the thumbnail this was gonna be good
Appreciate the info. Thank you sir 👍 🇺🇸
Killer vid man! Finally someone explains to the new boot that tunes alone don’t get the bone!! TY
Nah that's mostly boosted factory cars like the b58 supra m3 and others. They get crazy power on just a tune but it's because they are DRASTICALLY detuned from the factory.
My plan was to spend the least amount out n/a power as possible while still making a little more than stock power so I threw a boss manifold, cold air(the one you hate) offroad x pipe and a tune. That's it until I can afford boost. I may throw injectors and an e85 tune on it but it's honestly plenty fast for where I live. Not a lot of fast cars here.
Hi Alex, great video with alot of good info. I've always explain to people so many times that you should work on suspension, weight saving and a good tire setup first. I do have a question about the 10r80 which my car has. I'm starting to get the random harsh shifting shifting that a lot of people tend to get with the 10-speed. I have done the disconnecting of the battery to reset the PCM and TCM. Seems to fix the issue for around first 500 mi. Then it reverts back. I have read on mustang 6G forms people using forscan to clear the adaptive learning tables and with the new forescan update you can actually turn off completely the adaptive learning tables. Everyone I've seen that's done this. It fixes the issue and everyone seems to be amazed on how great it shifts. Do you recommend this as a good idea if I turned the adaptive learning tables off and do you think this could possibly void your warranty or cause damage to the transmission
Hello! Thanks for sharing the informations. They’re very informative! I have a 13’ Boss 302 and thinking to get a tune done on it, which tuning would you recommend for a boss 302?
Alex I have a quick few questions. So eventually I want boost for my 2022 mustang GT but for now I have a closed box aftermarket CAI and a resonator delete. I love the way it sounds and get compliments all the time. How much extra power could I get with those mods with a 85 tune? Or should I wait until I get boost before tuning?
Fairly new to tuning only on my third mustang with a tune. I had a 2017 Ecoboost with Cobb Stage 1 and the switched over to PD tuning. I found car basically the same with both tunes. PD was a little more fine tuned. Since I did not want anything but 93 pump gas and stock turbo really limited me. In my personal opinion I found the tune just enhanced what was really already there from factory. Took out some of the limiter’s that Ford installed from factory.
Interesting about the sand bags I’m gonna try that
Finally, Thank You!
Excellent well presented advice.
This was a great video Alex. Very realistic approach.
Would love to see a vid on what a tuner expects (especially Lund) customer to do/how to datalog properly to save time and headache vid next or in the future.
I used to mess with jdm cars when I was younger and rom tuned. This is muuuuch different so maybe give some advice on the process of data logging, pulls, ect. For the tuner to use obviously im not asking you to tell us how to tune the car.
Im more suggesting a how to properly datalog and send for dummies. (Like myself lol)
He has done plenty of in depth datalogging videos
@@csr801996 I more meant the process needed for dealing with Lund tuner. But fair enough I'll go back into his older videos and see if I can find it. Thanks for the info. Like I said used to rom tune my ecm on older jdm cars but remote tuning new for a boomer like me. I'm trying to get everything ready for Lund tune before I hit them up and waste their time.
Thanks!
Great video sir.
The best mustang content
Alex I have a question so obviously I want to be tuned by Lund with my new setup and would like Lund’s input on the parts I’m going to use injectors, intake ect.. Should I buy the tune now and get the input then get the actual tune later once my car is put together?
I am a new owner of a 2013 gt(bought almost compleatly stock with low miles). I dont plan on tracking or dragging the car, just a fun weekend car. I go back and forth on mods/tune. Do you think it is worth it for someone with the use i plan to do? Dont want to do anything too drastick that cant be reversed
Great explanation!
Great info!!
I'm still looking at ESS supercharger for my 2015 mustang. Not looking for wild numbers, I like to keep drivability and make it last still
I love this video. Thanks man! Ive got a basically stock 2015 gt. Given im in the California of europe, I'd just be happy getting a snappier than stock tune. I don't give a fuck about the numbers. That's a tool for the tuner. Means nothing for me when I'm coming up against R8's or GTS Mercs... I just wanna have fun in my car and have it not be a lazy 440hp...
This is interesting because a local tuner said he can get me 40rwhp on an flex/E85 tune. Now I'm wondering if I should just wait to get a Lund tune. 2018 mt82 car currently has a Roush intake (thanks to CA), and MBRP street catback, was going to install a ported intake with a 90mm throttle body I'd bought a while ago. Looking to go with an ESS G3 eventually. Would it be good to get it tuned now, install the intake and throttle body, get a revision, and then revision again when the boost comes? Or just wait for the boost. This would be a roll race and weekend car. BTW, thanks for the informative videos like this. The guidance is always appreciated.
good advice here great info thanks !!
I couldnt agree more with the sandbags. During the summer time my restaurants ice machine stopped working so i had to go to costco to buy multiple 20 lbs bags of ice (prob added up to around 180-200 lbs total) and put it in the trunk of my '19 gt. My car never felt better speeding off a signal or speeding up while driving.
Great video. Thank you I have so many ???? Lol. I have a 13 Gt with stage 2 Procharger😅, OPG’s, venom twin disc clutch Steeda springs with sport touring shocks. I’m thinking next mod will be a watts link. My biggest issue is finding places to run Wot in the Tampa / Hernando area!?!? Any help appreciated. Looking for smallish tracks to run on but not to dig race, I just wanna run wide open somewhere other than Mexico.
Very well explained.
Well put!
Thanks
Good education 🤝
SO many are stuck on peak power and torq (THE MAX NUMBER). Really its power across the curve starting from low RPM how it pulls. I still remember all chevy guys I have 2.02 heads I'm badass LOL. Or had them ported so now engine peaky and has very very narrow power band. My brother asked me to help me with engine for his 85 buick back then. Took 305 short block, 350 truck head, 1966 327 vett cam, performer intake and 600 cfm holley. Smacking the crap out of 350 Z28 especially light to light. No way that 305 it can't be LOL. My 351C with 4v heads (2.19 intakes) was dead under 3000 RPM but above that was like a switch being turned on.
OMG , I used to argue with my son and his box tune he paid to have a shop install. He swore his cai and the tune was making 30-50 more rwhp. I kept saying that is NOT the case. He swore because a shop installed the tune on his programmer that it made it a custom tune. I repeatedly argued if your not logging and a tuner is tweaking it and it came on a store bought tuner it isn't custom. He swore the almost $300 he pd to have the shop install his tuner tue was custom. Soo I proved my point by adding a ported manifold, pmas, e85, 3" open flow master exhaust and a custom tune that has been logged and then tweaked by my tuner , that his ice cream dreams were just dreams. We ran a 1/8th and by 300' I had to literally stop and wait on him to catch up. He looked and sounded great though......Thank you for putting some facts and common-sense explanation vids bruh!
Well said.
Your awesome thanx man
Ac guy in St Augustine with 2014 gen 1 coyote (with MT82 problems, working on that now)
Haven't had thw car long but got a VMP tune with the 2018 intake manifold and JLT cai , they gave me an sct x4 tuner device i haven't even picked up yet because i haven't a clue lol, cars definitely not fast enough, just want to race whoever pulls up on the street and stand a chance with most..... oh the car has some race stars on the back with some MT et street r 305/45/17's
New to the game and having fun, I used to race occasionally full contact banger racing fir laps in England out of Ringwood (matchams) my father was the number one driver and won loads of championships...all thid means is i like cars and can drive a touch but not much
Always wanted an American mustang, now im old amd have no idea what to do with it
Should i just get a better mustang or does this thing have a chance for me to have a good laugh and piss off my wife?
Look at my most recent videos where I purchased a gen 1 Mustang
Great video, thank you for all that information, you gained a subscriber. I recently bought a mustang Mach 1, the only thing I've done was the muffler delete and H pipe. What do you think I should do next? I want to keep my car natural aspirated and really don't want to do anything that could void the extended warranty. Ideally I want to improve performance and like you said, be ready if someone rolls up on me in the highway. I was thinking kook long tube header 1 7/8, any other suggestion or advice?
Tune, e85, headers and then save for boost
@@YDBT4LIFE do headers void the warranty? and does it need a tune? I've seen some contradicting posts and how could potentially cause the car to "run lean"
Do octane qualities diifer on ghost cam tunes?
Hey man! I’ve got a 13 gen 1 5.0 and I’m running a JLT CAI boss 302 intake manifold long tube headers Catless x pipe and I just ordered LU47 injectors to go E85 and was just curious what you think I should go with next? I daily this car and occasionally do roll racing try to stay away from digs because I daily it
Also just to note I have a adjustable pan hard bar BMR trailing arms and 1.5 inch lowering springs from BMR, my drive shaft seems a bit bigger than factory but not 100% sure because I bought the car with it
Such a good ass quality video.
It's sad that this has to be explained day after day
OG style videos.. 👌👌💥💥
People are crazy with their expectations. Ive had my gen 3 coyote for over a year now and its plenty for street driving for me, havent lost to any of my buddies on a roll and i plan to keep it simple, pmas cold air, switchfire midpipe and a tune🤷♂️ if i could make 450-460 wheel i would be happy
Can you go the best n/a route and then later go boost with all those parts or does that change things?? Just curious. Finally got me a 2011 gt premium 😊
Already did.
So just moved to Fl Haines city. Coming from 5500ft elevation I have a 14 gt500 modded do I need a new tune? Also wondering if anyone has anything good to say about mid Florida dyno? It’s right the street from me. Or should I take the trip up the road and take it to VMP?
Ok sounds great do you think it is easy for me to get the tune from you guys and upload it pretty easy I’m not really good with computers and all that.
And what mustang GEN do you recommend me getting? I would love to have an automatic that does great to modifications I’m thinking a GEN two and what long tube headers do you like for those cars and I’d like to put up a set up for just the street daily driving and getting on it once in a while probably in a
Yes. Tons of tutorials on UA-cam
Can we talk tuning a gt350? N/a
First thing we do here at the shop, know what are the future plans with the car!
And for other shops if the costumer wants something simple please don’t sell him a cold air intake😉
I did a gen 1 coyote swap and the engine keeps dying when coming to a stop, will tuning fix this?
What should I expect from a Lund 93 or e85 tune as far as WOT shifting feel on a Base 20 GT 10r80. Will it still shift softer like stock or will it shift like Drag strip mode on the higher trim cars?
In normal mode shifting is still really smooth. I'm sure you can ask for a drag mode only tune as well.
My Auto 13’ GT is bone stock aside from bigger wheels and tires and I believe it was lowered by the previous owner. It’s total miles is going on 180k but my dad and I recently replaced the engine to one with about 47k miles. Since then I’ve been looking for other way to tune up the car.
I’ve been told that some times are more aggressive than others but after this video I have a question. Since its stock, would it matter which tune or tuner I go with? Not looking for big power increase but a better performing and smoother engine and trans. and maybe a little better lower end power.
Eventually do want to throw some more power into it.
Lund
Hey Alex would you recommend a tune after installing kooks long tube headers and cats with full roush catback and xpipe on a 21 gt 10r80?. Or can I run the car without a tune?
You can drive it without a tune but I wouldn’t push you car or do pulls continuously till you get yourself a tune
Gen1 n/a guy here - I daily my car, got a Lund tune AFTER I modded the rear suspension, which in my opinion is junk from the factory. Cold air with factory filter box, free-flowing exhaust - the car performs well for what it is. Lamenting the fact that e85 is too uncommon in my area, sighs.
The focus ST guys have graduated to mustangs
So im trynna run a IMRC delete, ghost cam, and cat delete all with lund tuning. I was wondering if that is possible. Im only asking cuz i’ve looked everywhere online and no one has done it yet. Thanks!
This is why you got the fox to dick with. To go back to the foundation and cleanse your palate. Couldn't imagine the messages you've got to deal with. Love your channel though, corvette, truck, stangs, all of it. Actually leaning towards denali/escalade with your reviews. Thanks bro.
I bought a tune because I put long tubes and a warm air on a gen 2 F150 - which is speed density. Otherwise, I probably would've left it on the normal tune.
Alex, what would you recommend for a completely bone stock gen1 6r80 daily driver? I don't race, but get tempted whenever some kid with a Honda or Subaru roll up on me., I just want a little more oomph just in case.
373s and a 3c converter will feel super zippy
@@YDBT4LIFE Thanks Alex! I appreciate you bro
My dad has an 11 gt500 with a Ford racing Whipple supercharger package on it. Do you think that car would benefit any from a tune from Lund? He's talked about getting it tuned and I gave him a smaller pulley for it for Christmas one year but he hasn't pulled the trigger on a tune yet.
Did you watch the video at all?
@@purplerange210 I did. I dont know how good those tunes from Whipple are. I dont know if there might be some power left on the table or something else Lund can do to make the car perform better overall. I assume it would benefit from a Lund tune but I dont know. That's why I asked.
The "Tuna"
The advantage of a tune is having proper fueling. Factory tune seems to run lean at tip-in. And then torque management is another issue stealing performance. My journey started with a whipple tune on a gt350. The tune was terrible! Lots of knock, the fueling didn't really start until 90 percent throttle. Stupid! The Lund Tune has proper fueling and I dont have to worry about the knock. Save yourself a headache and get a Lund Tune.
Alex ⚾️🇲🇽 good morning I’m from San Diego California I am not really familiar with where are you located but I had a guy that I follow very well and intelligent in the dodge platform now I would like to buy a GEN two or GEN three mustang daily to mod and have fun I’m glad I found you. Is there anyway we can talk and I could text you or email you stuff that I want to do to help me out which ones to get I have a good idea but I do not understand how to buy the parts I have these people in town install them because once they want to install them they want two of them has a package but I wanna get the tune from you, so which way should I go?
I work for Lund racing. Any tuning inquiries have to go through Lund racing
support@lundracing.com
Should I get a tune to get rid of rough idle issue? Cause I send car 3 times to dealer for the same reason in the past 2 years and the problem persist.
No. If you have a mechanical issue s tune won't fix it
I have a stock 2020 mustang gt 10r80 that I want to do some mods to. I would love to have around 550-600 horse power some day just for fun. My goal is just faster acceleration and a louder exhaust. Not sure if this can be achieved for under 10K though.
Blower.
Idk if you’ll see this comment but if you do I would really appreciate a response. I have a 09 Saleen supercharged mustang and I’m looking for a handheld tuner with a tune for a jlt 3 cold air intake. Idk if it matters but I just want a fast reliable daily car, Any recommendations?
Fast daily reliable
Coyote mustang.
Sell yours.
Buy a coyote
Headers, E85 and a boss intake or 18 manifold.
3v are just not it for anything decently powerful.
I want to know more about dig racing
That's why I like a my 2023 GT six speed. I CONTROL the shifts. If I had an Auto I would have to tune in order to change the shift point. OR, shift manual and maybe take the auto out. I had a friend who took the "auto" out of his Caddy and blew the motor. I like to run on the highway and go distance. I'm fixing to upgrade my suspension. I'm 61 and I'm done with stop light to stop light or drag. I just want to enjoy the car and the drive before I hit the casket. Racing stop light to stop light, racing on an unprepped surface? You get to the casket faster and might take someone else with you.
At the same time I say this, I don't want to be a stupid Boomer, I understand the stop light to stop light and all that. Have fun, stay safe and enjoy your time while you got it. That's the main things. Life is short live it as you see fit. I love heading out on the long Texas highways and just letting the Horse run. There are a lot of lone places here Texas that one can do that. I'm lucky enough to live in rural Texas. Farm to market roads are all over the place. My Mustang begs to be let loose. I love driving. It's the DRIVE, the wind with windows down, dual exhaust playing the music. Yeah, it's all about Freedom and the moment for me.
So 40 roll racing on a 6r80 car. Best set up for 650ish rwhp? That I can daily on pump gas.
Ess g3x if centri...Whipple 3.0 if pd
Both at about 11 psi
Hey Alex, I’m putting a gen 3 short block in my gen 2 car. Does the new motor require a revision? Mods are fbo cj manifold on 93. Thanks!
What heads? Gen 3 heads?
@@YDBT4LIFE gen 2 heads and timing components. Just changing the short block
@@ethan5977 should be fine but log it for your tuner once it's all out together
@@YDBT4LIFE motor came in today I’ll send you guys a log when it’s all finished
I love Lund, Alex is awesome, glad he is not homophobic no more
I want a tune just for how my car runs because i have a 2016 mustang v6 and it feels like something is holding it back plus i want the limiter removed
We don't tune v6s
Speaking on weight bias I ran a 12.59 quarter on the dragy with my buddy who probably weighs 180# in the passenger seat and I was spinning like crazy on the launch and through 3rd gear. That got me wondering what it'd do if I threw 180# in the trunk and ditched my buddy! 😂
It would be quicker. LOL
@Alejandro Flores I imagine so! He seems to think it could be in the high 11s on a good tire or on a track. Idk though.
Don’t be scared to have your buddy sit in the back passenger seat and see what happens for shits and grins
@Z Works thought about that too. 🤔
If your buddy goes missing at the track, we'll know exactly what you did with him!
Isn’t the car going to make more hp when you raise the shift point?
No. Not necessarily. It depends on cam profile
I just want a tune to support the mods I’m gonna install with it. Catless headers, exhaust, and intake.
No tuner can disable cat codes legally.
whipple vs roush on a 22 GT? I'd be running the stock canned tune and just want max reliability/safety, no digs no racing just a daily driver
Whipple
I wanted a tuner to make my car lighter and shed some weight