First Game of 10th Edition How Bad Was It?

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  • @EonsOfBattle
    @EonsOfBattle  Рік тому +11

    www.twitch.tv/eonsofbattle We're streaming again! Follow us to get notified when we go live! Tuesday/Thursday 5:30pm to 8pm CT

  • @lizadon0740
    @lizadon0740 Рік тому +612

    My god he actually played 40k.

    • @AskDoctorBear
      @AskDoctorBear Рік тому +26

      The Prophecy

    • @cedonuli
      @cedonuli Рік тому +21

      It’s official now, this is now the best edition ever

    • @NickSlaten333
      @NickSlaten333 Рік тому +7

      Pics or it didn't happen!!

    • @Trashhobbies
      @Trashhobbies Рік тому +16

      I thought we just inhaled plastic glue for fun😅

    • @jc7997aj
      @jc7997aj Рік тому +39

      ​@@Trashhobbieswait ... 40k is a game ? I thought it was a plastic investment company and you get these cool tokens to represent how much stock you have.

  • @sanguinius6815
    @sanguinius6815 Рік тому +35

    at this point 'Sean Won' could be a drinking game.

    • @Barry-Sweaty
      @Barry-Sweaty Рік тому +1

      They need a “Sean won” or “Sean is a winner” shirt in their shop

  • @dazor86
    @dazor86 Рік тому +37

    Think it’s time to upgrade Sean from Jay’s nemesis to his bully.

  • @VaSoapman
    @VaSoapman Рік тому +11

    3 player rules for CP:
    You get a CP in YOUR Command phase.
    You get a CP when YOUR turn ends.
    Same amount of CP, received at the "same" time you normally get CP.

  • @EPICSAWIKI
    @EPICSAWIKI Рік тому +17

    God I really hope we get to see one of these awesome games one day. It sounds so fun to watch and just filled with a lot of good hearted entertainment. I’m glad you’re getting into 10th. It’s always rewarding to actually see those beautiful painted models in game.

  • @bradp6452
    @bradp6452 Рік тому +4

    The rules to service the model range is the real issue. With some armies running into the hundred or more units and each unit having to be unique with their own special rules. Add in the characters joining, faction rules, enhancements, and strats and you have way to many layers of special rules to navigate if you want to play the game. The new releases try to draw me in but I look at the "simple" index rules and I am like this is crazy.

  • @Lord_Vesh
    @Lord_Vesh Рік тому +49

    I’m looking forward to the new Cities of Sigmar. Mainly because TWICE now on warhammer tv we’ve seen the steam powered mecha cathedral. If that’s not a miniature I’ll eat my socks

    • @nox471
      @nox471 Рік тому +2

      Anyone have a cheeky screen shot?

    • @Nate-tq8wu
      @Nate-tq8wu Рік тому

      Whuuut ? WHERE !

    • @dickassley5171
      @dickassley5171 Місяць тому +1

      How did the socks taste?

  • @loganbond8538
    @loganbond8538 Рік тому +43

    Can't wait to play 10th. All of the cool Tau units I love that use to suck like piranhas I can actually make something usable out of already have like 4 lists

    • @jaychrist4437
      @jaychrist4437 Рік тому

      Yes, and everything that used to be good is now trash and Tau can't play the game cause it's objective based and Tau have no tough OC units YEAAAAAAH Tau suck ass

    • @malakimphoros2164
      @malakimphoros2164 Рік тому

      ​@@jaychrist4437As it should be

  • @thomaswilliams5005
    @thomaswilliams5005 Рік тому +10

    That Ogor character is both cool and insane.

  • @Materia-Hunter
    @Materia-Hunter Рік тому +2

    I’m happy to hear your enthusiasm for the game!

  • @ChibsterofNurgy
    @ChibsterofNurgy Рік тому +19

    Brettonia and Empire aren't the same faction.

  • @yellowbellytabletop
    @yellowbellytabletop Рік тому

    regarding hitting on a 2+: remember hit rolls can never be modified in either direction by more than 1. Core rules p21

  • @liamalbiges7748
    @liamalbiges7748 Рік тому +9

    I love new City of sigmar too, they have the feel of the guard from Terry Prachetts Discworld to me. Plus I love any mini which is a small dude riding a big dude!

  • @johndoodoohead9221
    @johndoodoohead9221 Рік тому +4

    Glad you started playing 10th edition. I like how you put a positive spin on things..other channels love bashing gw. Its gets old quick

  • @johnhanley5546
    @johnhanley5546 Рік тому +2

    "Well I do!" .... cracks me up every time - dont stop

  • @markgriffiths2659
    @markgriffiths2659 Рік тому +1

    Hearing you get excited for 10th edition has got me excited for it now, too - it was a bit rough at first, with so much negativity all over the place as those index card pdfs were coming out! Got my first game on Tuesday, and I’m breaking out the Necrons as well. I’m finally in love with the res orb, so here’s hoping for the win 😃

  • @stormlives6051
    @stormlives6051 Рік тому +2

    I'd like to make a Dragon Age themed CoS army. City guard wearing the crest of Kirkwall, alongside some Dalish elves, dwarves from Orzammar (Legion of the Dead or Carta) and ogors with horns to make them Qunari. Could also throw in some Templars to oversee the Circle mages.

  • @morbode
    @morbode Рік тому +2

    I'm old and crunchy too :( Maybe thats why I love the Bretonians so much.

  • @dekai7992
    @dekai7992 Рік тому

    You reminded me of my love for back banners. Therefore, my new Marine army for 10th will get aaaall the back banners!

  • @bubonicweasel
    @bubonicweasel Рік тому

    13:29 I was painting my Necron Overlord and thinking exactly the same thing. Amazing coincidence.

  • @daili4917
    @daili4917 Рік тому +3

    Jay's so far ahead of the curve he was playing Skorpekhs in 8th - my man put down the brush and get some sleep, you're working so hard you're tripping through time 😂

  • @CaffeinatedWarlord
    @CaffeinatedWarlord Рік тому +10

    By Bretonnians, you mean Empire? 😅 I mean it's all 'gone' from AoS anyway but yeah, Empire 😊

    • @beauaadams153
      @beauaadams153 Рік тому

      This guy doesn't know shit about Fantasy/AoS you should of seen the endless spells video he did. Couldnt understand why they were on bases and forgot to talk about a few of them.

    • @malakimphoros2164
      @malakimphoros2164 Рік тому

      They are kinda separate, kinda like Kislev.

  • @Le_Petit_Lapin
    @Le_Petit_Lapin Рік тому +1

    They keep knocking it out of the park with their AoS minis, I dont even play it, but I've ended up picking up some of them, just because they look so fun.

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205
    @fernandozavaletabustos205 Рік тому

    Another awesome video!

  • @barazo1011
    @barazo1011 Рік тому +13

    Mad Max and Master and Blaster!
    The two dudes with one riding the other was a total nod to that character lol!
    Now you gotta do a Ork Master Blaster for your Mad Max styled army! That would be a great scratch build to see!

    • @moleculeman27
      @moleculeman27 Рік тому +2

      Thank you. I was feeling very old until you said that. Kids today, etcetera.

    • @brionl4741
      @brionl4741 Рік тому

      For the real Master Blaster action you need to get the House Cawdor Stig Shambler for Necromunda (Forge World mini)

  • @gerryjamesedwards1227
    @gerryjamesedwards1227 Рік тому +1

    The Axejack from the Navy Breachers kill team has a power axe with a wooden haft. It's the first bit of wood I've painted in a while!

  • @chadkittleson5447
    @chadkittleson5447 Рік тому +3

    I love Idoneth Deepkin. I am also an aquarium guy. So they really hit the mark for me. Ha.

  • @timunderbakke8756
    @timunderbakke8756 Рік тому

    I am excited to get to my first game of 10th. Thousand Sons look like we can actually use Magnus and the vortex beast. Which gives us a little more than we had before.

  • @markobranisel4094
    @markobranisel4094 Рік тому

    Chumbawamba and reanimation protocol, pure genius!❤

  • @ExosLife
    @ExosLife Рік тому

    never thought I would hear the words I get knocked down and I get up again in a war hammer video lol awesome.

  • @dr.sommercamp3435
    @dr.sommercamp3435 Рік тому

    One of the floorplates of the rukkatruck squigbuggy is made out of wood!😂

  • @Winterydee
    @Winterydee Рік тому

    Skorpekh Destroyers were released with the start of 9th edition in the Indomitus box.

  • @SpartanK9
    @SpartanK9 Рік тому +3

    Lord I 1000% respect that you dig the new GW direction for the age of sigmar stuff but I personally despise it. I love grounded classic fantasy and it’s really being done away with for everything now a days. Video games, movies ect. Old world has me hype though and I have vermintide forever lol. Just commenting bc my buddy brought up not liking any fantasy models on the website when he was looking for Mordheim models to get. (I’m building a board now) I was like those are age of sigmar for the most part, not old world. Love you’re stuff tho 🤙🏽

  • @zd-1249
    @zd-1249 Рік тому

    Necrons being like Chumba Wumba had me rolling lol. I’m gonna use that from now on.

  • @Ghost_the_fox_
    @Ghost_the_fox_ Рік тому +2

    As you said high models have best table presence and wide models could also my brain went "great unclean one"

    • @blockofnerd8285
      @blockofnerd8285 Рік тому +1

      My local store manager made 10th ed 1000 point army of just nurglings and a great unclean one. It’s brutal

  • @zeburgerkang
    @zeburgerkang Рік тому

    when you said overlord in the 13th min, all my brain was saying "all hail the overlord".

  • @IamZeus1100
    @IamZeus1100 Рік тому

    I’ve still yet to play a game since really getting into it and collecting models last year .. time to finally learn , since when I started learning 9th edition , 10th was getting announced so I was like well .. Might as well just wait . But it’s here ! I can’t wait to pick up leviathan today , especially now that my indomitus marines are pretty much done

  • @johndoodoohead9221
    @johndoodoohead9221 Рік тому

    I wanted to share an episode idea....take a look into "table top standard" and paint up some minis to the barest bones needed to be playable.
    Play a game w em, and see if minimal paint job affected fun

  • @odharrison23
    @odharrison23 Рік тому

    Age of sigmar master blaster!!! Do you think that the guy in the crows nest is a whole guy or just the top part like a dude in a tank. You know what I mean? Thanks gents!! Fantastic as always!!!

  • @riddytmeed5694
    @riddytmeed5694 Рік тому +1

    I think the concern about indirect fire would be less problematic in an objective game as the points you spend on those guns are points that aren't putting bodies on objectives.

  • @DasFork
    @DasFork Рік тому +7

    They need to bring back the artillery direction dice and area template for indirect fire.

  • @JTMC93
    @JTMC93 Рік тому

    You might double-check that basilisk math. IIRC, it can get up to a 3+ BS with the Scout Sentinels, giving a reroll of any 1s.
    The capping of modifiers seems to be an overlooked rule.

  • @SrEspantapajaros
    @SrEspantapajaros Рік тому

    Who would have thought that the song Tubthumping was about Necrons all along

  • @user-fm1gg8sk4u
    @user-fm1gg8sk4u Рік тому

    Awesome!

  • @bretts2356
    @bretts2356 Рік тому

    Rumor has it that Lychguard and attached crypteks are suuuuper tough

  • @teemu3370
    @teemu3370 Рік тому +4

    Why does the premise have to be negative, "was it bad"?

    • @RealmDesigner
      @RealmDesigner Рік тому +2

      Unfortunatly negativity drives engagement. I feel the same way, but it's just a sad reality of making content on youtube. We are the flies... and what are flies attracted to?

    • @redakumaproduction
      @redakumaproduction Рік тому

      ​​@@RealmDesigneror you maybe . Positivity drives me

  • @KelstenGamingUK
    @KelstenGamingUK Рік тому +1

    ‘It’s a dude riding a dude’ …phrasing! 😂

  • @insertjokehere212
    @insertjokehere212 Рік тому

    If the Ogre was just a bit bigger, it would look really awesome. I do love the shield!

  • @tiberiumnp8030
    @tiberiumnp8030 Рік тому

    We played 3 player games in late 9th so that the side that has two players takes turns which one gets the one CP. But as 10th starts with 0CP, that probably doesn’t work anymore.

  • @MechaMan3451
    @MechaMan3451 Рік тому +1

    “It’s a dude riding a dude!”
    Ah. A man of culture.

  • @GorillerViller
    @GorillerViller Рік тому

    Kinda surprised the Imp guard player managed to even put a dent in the necrons. They are basically impossible to kill if build correctly.

  • @leeperry7068
    @leeperry7068 Рік тому

    You have to hear this all the damn time, but man, you need a compilation video of you doing the "HOW?! do you have more to say?" bits. They still totally wreck me every time.

  • @conanlarkin1617
    @conanlarkin1617 Рік тому

    Guard Indirect Fire takes a lot of investment to get it to a 2+ and negate all the debuffs. You need spotting from Sentinels, Flush them out from a Hellhound, Squadron Orders which only come from TC’s (1-2 orders to squadron) and Lord Solar (3x order anything) and remaining still for heavy.

  • @RuneChaosMarine
    @RuneChaosMarine Рік тому

    i always imagine Girr from invader Zim when you say "i do" haha

  • @NeutraleStimmung
    @NeutraleStimmung Рік тому +1

    Quite sure the 2+ to hit for indirect is not possible for IG.

  • @MarieAvora
    @MarieAvora Рік тому +2

    ngl if this is the kind of rage bait content I'm gonna have to expect, I don't know if I want to keep watching

  • @knuckl6972
    @knuckl6972 Рік тому

    I think most armies definitely did get cheaper. My Chaos army is the exact same as 9th, but with an entire extra Vindicator.

  • @offroadturkey
    @offroadturkey Рік тому +2

    40k player’s wrong option on fantasy models! Michel and Alan Perry’s bretonnian line of models are GW classics and put them on the map and head and shoulders above all other model producers.
    The new stuff is too high fantasy

  • @King_Thulsa_Doom
    @King_Thulsa_Doom Рік тому

    Hopefully Drukhari are good.
    I decided to go Incubi heavy and pack a Drazhar in my army.

  • @SpooKimi
    @SpooKimi Рік тому

    I hope that you try out warcry 1 day ^^
    It's the game with the best ruleset imo from gw and a good excuse to get many AoS models :p

  • @420alphaomega
    @420alphaomega Рік тому

    Jay you need to get some sylvaneth to get your wood fix

  • @Ihopeyourgood2015
    @Ihopeyourgood2015 Рік тому

    the dude riding the dude remind me of mad max

  • @kenupton4084
    @kenupton4084 Рік тому +1

    Ive already played a few games of my Imperial Fists vs my roommates Votann. I crush him mercilessly each time.
    Space Marines are kind of easy mode.
    So far 10th seems pretty good with a few issues among the armies (Eldar/Sisters).
    Gonna try and trade in some of my unopened sisters for some Marines and Guard today.

    • @kenupton4084
      @kenupton4084 Рік тому

      Should anyone be curious...
      I traded Celestine, Ad Mech jump troops and calvary, and another sister unit for the Imperial Fists Bastion, 2 boxes of gravis jump guys, and a box of Ogryn.

  • @Weighted-Earmuffs
    @Weighted-Earmuffs Рік тому

    We need a batrep even mwg style

  • @codyott1982
    @codyott1982 Рік тому

    When describing the aos character, you apparently didn't think mad max, cuz that's master blaster.

  • @se7enspac3s
    @se7enspac3s Рік тому

    I played templars into Eldar at 1500 points on a small board. I won but my opt didn't have as much time as me to prep. He also almost sniped grimaldus tho. Lived on 1 wound for rest of match.

  • @tx_marauder
    @tx_marauder Рік тому

    OSHA requires the spotter to be tied off. He should be safe.

  • @SpeedDemonGoFast
    @SpeedDemonGoFast Рік тому

    What happened to EOB complete

  • @nicholasmattiello8959
    @nicholasmattiello8959 Рік тому

    Is it herasy to ask for a Battle report :D

  • @RustyShackleford101
    @RustyShackleford101 Рік тому

    I thought Cities and Dawnbringer Crusades were replacing Empire stuff? 🤔

  • @bbtdltd8081
    @bbtdltd8081 Рік тому

    Tbh I would expect a company that calls itself Games Workshop tonget it right well before the 10th try but Im happy that 40k fans will get to have fun with it.

  • @woahhbro2906
    @woahhbro2906 Рік тому

    Your Black Templars are supposed to be doing great. It's your time!!

  • @aarond.7847
    @aarond.7847 Рік тому

    I agree 10th is great and the games now that we have a few under our belt take no more than 2 hours 30min on average. Which in my opinion is the best part of the new addition.

  • @RuneChaosMarine
    @RuneChaosMarine Рік тому

    chumbawumba is awesome

  • @fleshbhones
    @fleshbhones Рік тому +1

    I love hearing a new variation of "HOW??", not just because it's hilarious, but it signifies that it's Friday morning and the weekend is almost here!

  • @piotrjeske4599
    @piotrjeske4599 Рік тому

    1000pts of GK vs 1000pts of BT it felt as if either of us was playing a different game. Very un fun, but it was just two games. This weekend another two games vs chaos knights and 1ksons

  • @jimmysmith2249
    @jimmysmith2249 Рік тому

    I played a game with a friend today, and we were both playing space morons; oath of moment does SO many rerolls, dude. I had a 5 man dev squad with an Lt (2 rockets and 2 p. cannons) and I killed 6/10 assault intercessors. I forgot to reroll my missed hits from oath on the frag rockets, thus I would likely have killed a 7th one. The Lt and bolter discipline in dev doctrine with a bunch of blast weapons is gross, put in oath and you got a deadly little 200pt unit.

  • @Ironfrenzy217
    @Ironfrenzy217 Рік тому +1

    Glad to hear Necrons feel good.

    • @giantninja9173
      @giantninja9173 Рік тому

      On auspex tactics the poll puts them in third behind imperial knights (12 toughness means you better hope you brought lethal hits or “anti-vehicle x+”) and aeldari (no limits on their roll fixing for any given roll). People were questioning reanimation but they put so many triggers and bonuses down it’s gonna get nerfed. Canoptek reanimator aura is gonna get shrunk

    • @Ironfrenzy217
      @Ironfrenzy217 Рік тому

      @@giantninja9173 please, just the reanimator. I've not grown attached to it yet.
      Finally it feels like Reanimation is doing what is should!

    • @giantninja9173
      @giantninja9173 Рік тому

      @@Ironfrenzy217 I feel like that’s the most obvious nerf because 12” aura is over 1/4 of the board.

    • @minigamerjeonsofbattle9376
      @minigamerjeonsofbattle9376 Рік тому

      @@giantninja9173 it is VERY good although the model is a giraffe, and pretty much impossible to keep it from getting blown off the board

    • @giantninja9173
      @giantninja9173 Рік тому

      @@minigamerjeonsofbattle9376 but it does have 3+ armor and a 4+ feel no pain. Also it’s not towering and ruins say you can’t draw line of sight over them except for towering or aircraft. It could be harder to remove this thing than you think.

  • @KiwiSpartan01
    @KiwiSpartan01 Рік тому

    Is that a mad max master blaster reference? Who runs barter town?

  • @FelixGoodfello
    @FelixGoodfello Рік тому

    It's like chumbawumba!!!!!tubthumpin lol

  • @rookwills9168
    @rookwills9168 Рік тому

    Dear god,he played 40k!

  • @samurguy9906
    @samurguy9906 Рік тому

    Still waiting for alternating activations for 40k

  • @Barry-Sweaty
    @Barry-Sweaty Рік тому +1

    Kind of unrelated, but I clogged the toilet this morning. I went to plunge it and it immediately cleared. I was stoked that it wasn’t a huge hassle. As I went to pull the plunger out of the toilet, I ended up dropping a giant turd and tp nugget on my foot. So much moisture. Unfortunately, the reason the toilet cleared so quickly was because I sucked the clog out of the toilet and into the plunger 🪠 cup. So nasty. I had poo foot which is way more worser than a clogged toilet. I had to pick up a giant wet turd ball off the floor. I had juice between my toes. I forget how it relates to this video but that’s what happened.

    • @dekai7992
      @dekai7992 Рік тому +2

      Pretty sure you unlocked some kind of achievement with that. Congratulations!

  • @tofuontoast45
    @tofuontoast45 Рік тому

    Im glad cities are sigmar are finally getting some new stuff!
    You are thinking of empire btw, not bretonnia

    • @johnnybigbones4955
      @johnnybigbones4955 Рік тому

      Was looking for this! Bretonnia was the arthurian knights, Empire is the Holy Roman Empire with Gryphons.

  • @11AleZZ
    @11AleZZ Рік тому

    10th Ed is 8th Ed with a skin, because 10th Ed it's a simplified version of 9th Ed, but 9th Ed was a complicated version of 8th Ed. Also emphasis on shooting phase like 8th Ed.

  • @d-emprahexpects
    @d-emprahexpects Рік тому

    Show us the live audience

  • @DannyQM
    @DannyQM Рік тому

    Buffs don't stack, indirect should only be able to do 3+ or 4+ by ignoring the setup penalty and +1 to hit

  • @mattlevens6382
    @mattlevens6382 Рік тому

    Indirect fire for guard shouldn't be able to hit on 2s, think the guard player misunderstood the rules. A hit roll can only be modified by +1 or -1

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 Рік тому

      with scout sentinel eliminating the penalty for indirect fire and heavy giving them a +1 to hit, they hit on 3+, rerolling 1s.
      then they use the take aim order to make that a 2+
      kinda iffy if they stack. heavy gives them a +1 and the order says "improve ballistic skill characteristics by 1", so it modifies the ballistic skill, not the hit roll. will probably get an faq.
      you can further enhance this with an exterminator leman russ to get an extra ap on your target, and regimental attaches to get sustained hits on your artillery pieces.

  • @Michael_Gombos
    @Michael_Gombos Рік тому

    I was excited for the Old World, until I saw that model. Doesn't seem like IC 1999 to me. It's cool looking and weird, but to have an LMG on the friendly ogre just doesn't seem Warhammerish to me.

  • @mekpriestchris8746
    @mekpriestchris8746 Рік тому

    I want to see a worlds strongest man like Eddie hall or someone try to cosplay the Ogre with the dude on his back. I feel like if anyone could it would be them. Maybe have to get a very small person to go up there. But I think it could be doable with strong metal substructure under light foam detail layer.

    • @jc7997aj
      @jc7997aj Рік тому

      Idk about a small person but I'd say a dwarf would make it work most excellently.

    • @mekpriestchris8746
      @mekpriestchris8746 Рік тому

      @jc7997aj I mean, most horse Jockeys would probably be fine. xD.
      Though yes, someone with dwarfism would probably be the easiest to lift up there.

  • @borcodoolin
    @borcodoolin Рік тому

    Tell me you don’t know what Bretonnia is without telling me you don’t know what Bretonnia is

  • @fletchergibson1875
    @fletchergibson1875 Рік тому +1

    Jay, would you consider doing a series of how to plays for 10th? It's been literal decades since I've played any kind of Warhammer but have been enjoying your videos even if I don't always know what you're talking about. Still, I could really do with some "this is how charging works and why [whoever] is so effective at it" or "this is how you hold an objective and why you should never try it with [whatever]"

  • @northerner3861
    @northerner3861 Рік тому

    ...
    Talking about pikemen and renaissance makes me *know* you're not clear on the Bretonnian vibe XD

  • @Perchpole
    @Perchpole Рік тому

    40K needs anti-missile missiles!

  • @Riddler_von
    @Riddler_von Рік тому

    They seem to be going back to the old look for the ogres

  • @kikolokopo_toys
    @kikolokopo_toys Рік тому +1

    160k!!!!!!!

  • @fionnedmonds2022
    @fionnedmonds2022 Рік тому

    Sure a guard squad isn’t strong but what about a squad of sentimentals

  • @komma8203
    @komma8203 Рік тому

    Its more like the kruleboyz dude on the top of the troggoth

  • @southmole
    @southmole Рік тому

    Wassup