Games Workshop Used My Idea for Kill Team!!!

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  • @EonsOfBattle
    @EonsOfBattle  11 місяців тому +2

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  • @williambond2267
    @williambond2267 11 місяців тому +50

    I’d like the next Killteam to have a half interior map and half pale sand. The Gallowdark has been grounded!

    • @sonicwingnut
      @sonicwingnut 11 місяців тому +4

      The Gallowdark appears to have basically exterminatus'd the planet it landed on.

  • @Trashhobbies
    @Trashhobbies 11 місяців тому +124

    Do you make merch cause you need a t-shirt saying: Well I do!. You could even sell it on square space

    • @michaelhalligan6897
      @michaelhalligan6897 11 місяців тому +23

      I think he should do a nude calendar like fire fighters do

    • @Alpharius_OmegonXX
      @Alpharius_OmegonXX 11 місяців тому

      @@michaelhalligan6897I mean majorkill already does that…

    • @Nigelius
      @Nigelius 11 місяців тому +7

      I’d love a range of T-shirts with “How?” written with different emphasis/font.

    • @billdefranza4927
      @billdefranza4927 11 місяців тому +2

      How? With a grid of different Jay faces would be fun.

    • @malakimphoros2164
      @malakimphoros2164 11 місяців тому

      ​@@michaelhalligan6897Miniac kinda maybe did that as a joke.

  • @angusbyers
    @angusbyers 11 місяців тому +23

    Ok, so it just occurred to me, Space Dwarves are from high gravity planets, which causes them to have a compressed and dense physiology. Wouldn’t that mean they kinda bound on the lighter gravity worlds? FAST SPACE DWARVES, CMON GW!

    • @gunplamx7045
      @gunplamx7045 11 місяців тому +6

      that is such a cool and funny image, but also considering they have smaller limbs and kinda denser bones, that might balance them out speed wise.

    • @khereva
      @khereva 11 місяців тому +3

      John Carter of Mars for the win.

  • @vectorshaman338
    @vectorshaman338 11 місяців тому +22

    Bespoke Deathguard this season. New Tyranid terrain. Maybe new Sector Imperalis Terrain. New rules to battle inside a hive city. One can dream.

    • @JMcMillen
      @JMcMillen 11 місяців тому +4

      What about bespoke World Eaters? They still don't have any rules for them yet.
      As for terrain... xenos, xenos, and more xenos. There is a complete lack of non-fortication xenos terrain.

    • @adamhammers
      @adamhammers 11 місяців тому

      Bespoke Mechanicus Killteam please. I know Hunters Clade is good but I need to see some new cool Mechanicus models.

    • @Gumlass1
      @Gumlass1 11 місяців тому +1

      Eldar Exodites please! Although the striking scorpions will be good.

  • @turmsalps4472
    @turmsalps4472 11 місяців тому +22

    Beastman frenzy getting a fix was so obvious from the reveal of Gallowfall - it was only matter of time.

  • @oskar6661
    @oskar6661 11 місяців тому +4

    While a little expensive, the RUB (Really Useful Box) line is available online at Staples (with free shipping over $35?) and their 4L boxes are superb for all manner of 28mm minis. They stack with a few other sizes which can hold larger stuff. In short, RUB is a pretty solid stacking system. I have two shelves filled with both RUBs and larger Hefty storage bins. Everything is neatly laid out along a single wall - and labeled. It's "pick and choose" and has made gaming tremendously simplified.

  • @darbizzlebacon
    @darbizzlebacon 11 місяців тому

    For model storage, with my Malifaux models, I bought wooden boxes from the dollar store, put a big fridge magnet sheet in the bottom and magnetized all of them. I have them sorted by keyword, so I can grab one box and know all of one keyword is in there.

  • @brennonr
    @brennonr 11 місяців тому +3

    your shatterpoint collection and containment gives me joy

  • @frankyuengling8074
    @frankyuengling8074 11 місяців тому +3

    For the next kill team setting I'd go with a jungle setup especially since it's supposed to have scouts in it.

  • @TheSkullKing1911
    @TheSkullKing1911 11 місяців тому +4

    Something to make sure you're doing when playing Kill Team: Vantage only ignores Conceal on LIGHT cover not Heavy. My group played that wrong for a long time and it makes a huge difference. Vantage is not nearly as oppressive when played the way the rules actually state it.

  • @HandsWithLegs
    @HandsWithLegs 11 місяців тому

    Remember, in kill team vantage it only treats conceal as engage in LIGHT terrain or other models! It you have plenty of heavy, you can still hide, even on big tall boards!

  • @kumkitwong4621
    @kumkitwong4621 11 місяців тому +5

    In fact 40K Combat Patrols can be easily organised into those boxes you found for ShatterPoint. The bonus is no list building, so just open out and play! 🎉

  • @AwakeningFromADream
    @AwakeningFromADream 11 місяців тому

    Compilation of every “How!?” is needed

  • @alexnoahvogel
    @alexnoahvogel 11 місяців тому

    Hah! The Wisconsin in you really came out when you brought up Rose, and it made me smile (as I am from dairyland myself).

  • @ZanaTheBatPony
    @ZanaTheBatPony 11 місяців тому

    I bought an ArtBin Essentials Lift-Out Tray Box this month on Amazon, and it's one of the best Hobby Purchases I've made, as I now have the majority of my Hobby Tools all in one convenient place.

  • @davidwheward8081
    @davidwheward8081 11 місяців тому

    I listened too! To you Jay! I always have terrain with Vantage points... today... time to "disad"Vantage.

  • @brianhall4182
    @brianhall4182 11 місяців тому +1

    A unit being on a vantage point should give them a debuff as well. Yes, they can now hit units that are concealed, but now they're standing up high and should be easier to shoot at. So give other units shooting at them a +1 to hit or somesuch.

  • @odharrison23
    @odharrison23 11 місяців тому

    It’s amazing when you find a case that can hold everything!! That’s a nice box for shatter point! Thanks gents!! Fantastic as always!!!

  • @lostsignal7961
    @lostsignal7961 11 місяців тому

    All of my malifaux minis are in one of those style of cases. I just cut some metal and pop riveted into the bottom of the case. Now everything is magnetized to it. The cards are also all organized in a case that I'm pretty sure is for storing photographs. Having everything neatly organized changes everything.

  • @robbieerskine9562
    @robbieerskine9562 11 місяців тому

    On the topic of vantage points, what if it wasn't completely removed but was something like "While an operative is concealed, they can retain an extra defense dice while in cover" that way vantage points can still make it scarier to push up the board with concealed operatives but sneakier ones like the corsair fate dealer or craftworld rangers are still very safe sincw it can stack witg their camo cloaks and allow them to retain all their defense die guranteed and if ap weapons are a worry then you can even say that all ApX weapons have -1 Ap to make them less threatening

  • @karolkrajewski755
    @karolkrajewski755 11 місяців тому +9

    Ventage Point does treat operative as having Engage only in case, that operative is hiding behind a light cover.
    Also keep obscuring mechanic in mind.
    Maybe play with more heavy terrain on the board?

    • @sirmoth3955
      @sirmoth3955 11 місяців тому +2

      I agree. My friend and I usually have a map layout with about 4 vantage points, but we also usually have about two pieces of light cover on the whole map. Everything else is heavy cover. That way, vantage points are mostly there to shoot behind player-deployed barriers or one specific terrain piece. It feels like a very balanced setup.

    • @crustman5982
      @crustman5982 11 місяців тому

      It’s a good mechanic some teams really need it and it adds a lot of impetus for map control beyond crowd the objective

  • @terrandarkblood1787
    @terrandarkblood1787 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm doing a kitbash of a few models from necromund and cadians. Super excited to get to play them. The only model I'll be sad to not have is the Veteran from the inquisitorial agents.

  • @JadeCatMinis
    @JadeCatMinis 11 місяців тому

    I actually just finished painting Lost Patrol a couple weeks ago. It's literally sitting next to me right now.

  • @Matt-pr1xv
    @Matt-pr1xv 11 місяців тому

    10e's big antagonist is the Tyranids, so if Kill Team wants a tie in, it should go for Tyranids. Give them a trifecta. Genestealers (no cult) as a throwback to Space Hulk, probably even borrowing the token system from that game so that the opponent knows where you have units, but doesn't know how many. Maybe have them led by a lictor or something. A zergy team that's mostly made up of gaunts, led by Tyranid Warriors or something. And an army specializing in flying, so a winged Tyranid Prime and some sort of winged combat unit to work with him (this would also plug a pretty weird gap in their 40k lineup).
    Three teams sounds like a lot, but one would basically be a White Dwarf team, another would basically be a port of an existing spin-off, and the other would be adding a unit that 40k players probably want.

  • @nutsgul
    @nutsgul 11 місяців тому

    I would Love to see more Star Wars Legion. Show us the Empire Army. Or a comparison Video 40k vs. Legion.

  • @khereva
    @khereva 11 місяців тому

    OK, Jay, here's what you want to do for Mantic Armada storage. Buy 3 of these sterilite double bins. Put one top lid away, and make these into two triple stacks. One of the bins will hold your tokens & such. Carefully cut the bottom out of a second bin, leaving an inch or so of bottom surface all the way around. Clamp that on top of the third one, and voila, you have a double-height mini storing bin. And when you repeat, you can do the same for another game!

  • @ubrot7995
    @ubrot7995 11 місяців тому

    I think next season is very likely something related to water. The teaser back in may showed some kind of stormy river/lake with structures and in the article GW wrote "More specific clues abound, however. An Aeldari presence seems likely. Also, a glimpse of structures which appear to be built amid choppy waves. Further scouting is clearly required."
    Combined with Valraks leak (he has been right with those a lot) it seems very likely to me that we will get the following in the next Kill team box:
    water-based terrain or map + rules (maybe slower movement through water areas/ a swim or dive action/ unpassable spots of terrain (waves/too deep water); all speculation by me though)
    Striking Scorpions Kill team
    Space Marine Scouts as Kill team

  • @Insolvency
    @Insolvency 11 місяців тому

    Muji sells metal tins that hold magnetized minis really well. They have a small variety of sizes
    I have all my killteams in them, works pretty well.

  • @Spoonergasm
    @Spoonergasm 11 місяців тому

    There was a video GW put out in May for the Killteam release path that said "Aeldari Presence Detected. Deploy Infiltration Units" and then a Predator style clicking noise played in the background.
    Lots of people assume it'll be Primaris Scouts vs new Striking Scorpions

  • @kurikuriboh622
    @kurikuriboh622 11 місяців тому

    To follow the half outside half inside map for killteam I personally would want a necron themed set where its located at one of the necron tombs. The outside half could be the desert going up to the tomb entrance and the indoors area could be inside the tomb. Im new to 40k lore so idk what its like inside the tomb but I think having it be part of a map would be alot of fun.

  • @lancechamberlin8687
    @lancechamberlin8687 11 місяців тому

    I need a binder like that for my 40k index cards. I didn't even realize protector pages came in those sizes.

  • @manda60
    @manda60 11 місяців тому +1

    I want to be able to build my kill teams. Why can't I have a few novitiates and a handful of Sisters, led by a Palatine? A batch of wyches led by a succubus? Assorted phobos marines on a special forces kill team, like the actual Phobos kill team IN the Deathwatch index?

  • @caseyonthebeat9995
    @caseyonthebeat9995 11 місяців тому

    Would be interesting to have a kill team board that’s a mix of indoor and outdoor terrain or necromunda terrain to show off parts of hive cities, manufactorums, or even xenos terrain. Would be cool to get a Catachan model update into a killteam along with forrest terrain

  • @crusade_tabletop
    @crusade_tabletop 11 місяців тому

    darn i thought you were gonna say "games workshops newest killteam box is BLOOD ANGELS TERMINATORS vs GEANSTEALERS

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205
    @fernandozavaletabustos205 11 місяців тому

    Great video as always!!

  • @magnusmillerwilson
    @magnusmillerwilson 11 місяців тому

    OH. JAY. I listened to Day of Ascension book on Audible and you’re right; IT’S AMAZEBALLS. I loved every word of it! It was a PERFECT balance of making the genestealers protagonists, but not denying the truth of their reality being Xenos-tainted! Just wanted to let you know that I’m on the genestealer train now as being a fascinating and unique concept!

    • @monkey5266
      @monkey5266 11 місяців тому

      I would recommend Adrian Tchaikovsky other works. He is such a good author.

  • @tmarcb1296
    @tmarcb1296 11 місяців тому

    Hey Jay, vantage point only ignores light cover, so most walls and such do still heavy and can be hidden behind

  • @user-fg5cn2re5s
    @user-fg5cn2re5s 11 місяців тому +1

    Remember that vantage point doesnt remove conceal from models that have cover from heavy terrain.

  • @joert4455
    @joert4455 11 місяців тому

    its going to be space marine scouts vs eldar striking scorpions

  • @freemjr
    @freemjr 11 місяців тому

    Thanks!

  • @markgnepper5636
    @markgnepper5636 11 місяців тому

    Great stuff friend 👏 👍

  • @patricktorrey1204
    @patricktorrey1204 11 місяців тому

    As a new go mini war gaming player I would love to see more starwars legion painting!

  • @Nigelius
    @Nigelius 11 місяців тому +1

    Vantage point needs to be changed to be advantages against engaged enemies but you can pin concealed enemies with your shooting which costs them +1 APL to perform their first action in an activation. It’s still advantageous to shoot concealed enemies but it loses its lethality.

    • @fromization1
      @fromization1 11 місяців тому

      No, that sounds like a horrible idea, just use more heavy terrain.

  • @komma8203
    @komma8203 11 місяців тому

    Heard that vader from that diorama box has all the keywords and can be used with anything

  •  11 місяців тому

    The original Lost Patrol works great as a coop game with kids where you just let the dice decide what the Genestealers do.

  • @smoke264
    @smoke264 11 місяців тому

    I use organizer boxes for 40k...literaly 3 of them hold almost my 1000 point necron army

  • @gregorygstetter1534
    @gregorygstetter1534 11 місяців тому

    You have misunderstood how Vantage works....it only treats concealed units as engaged if behind light cover...so units in conceal that are obscured by heavy cover are still un-targetable.

  • @epickingedward7378
    @epickingedward7378 11 місяців тому

    Ironically I didn’t order gallowfalls but I found it on a 10% off deal at a bootleg hobby lobby, adding the beastmen to my thousand sons army as tzaangors and I just like the votaan’s martian explorer design

  • @Sgt-lott10
    @Sgt-lott10 11 місяців тому

    The mention of shatterpoint & legion reminded me, have you ever tried bolt action?

  • @TheEr910
    @TheEr910 11 місяців тому

    Sterilite boxes are so good. I store miniatures and Warcry terrain in them.

  • @WardudeProxies
    @WardudeProxies 11 місяців тому

    I got a pile of stormcast models waiting to be kitbashed into a Dark Angels army.

  • @zedirich7
    @zedirich7 11 місяців тому

    What is that clear binder sheet thingy called and do they hold Warhammer 40k 10th edition data cards? if so where do I get them?

  • @el_super_laser
    @el_super_laser 11 місяців тому

    Ill do that at home, vantage point as a keyword and only snipers can have it

  • @leegeorg08
    @leegeorg08 11 місяців тому +1

    I actually think the Beastmen nerf was too much. Only one of those changes would've been enough. Either let them be shot to death *or* deny them objective control. They have no options other than running into the opponent or running into objectives

  • @daili4917
    @daili4917 11 місяців тому

    If you're keeping Kill Team at home, I picked an IKEA glass cabinet that fits all my kill teams and the terrain in a nice display.

  • @UlfderGrosse
    @UlfderGrosse 11 місяців тому

    jo, can you make a tutorial on those clone troopers at 18:12 ? that white looks dope

  • @bauguilhugo9037
    @bauguilhugo9037 11 місяців тому

    For Heathkyn, +1" is on Normal move only, so charges are still 6" huhu

  • @RuneChaosMarine
    @RuneChaosMarine 11 місяців тому

    @1:06 lolol!! make that paper booboo, 10,000$ paint brush. sell it!

  • @creon3866
    @creon3866 11 місяців тому +1

    Aren’t they Hearthkyn Salvagers nor Pioneers?

  • @gregoryhall4062
    @gregoryhall4062 11 місяців тому

    The return of some Legion!!!! Wookiewooo

  • @JoeFlamenco
    @JoeFlamenco 11 місяців тому

    Atlan Forge Minoans are basically Minotaurs.

  • @erasmosantos879
    @erasmosantos879 11 місяців тому

    If i pay the patreon i can get all the terrains or just the August one?

  • @elcomandantedavid
    @elcomandantedavid 11 місяців тому

    Liked bc you gave Rose some love

  • @fintangrace3889
    @fintangrace3889 11 місяців тому

    I don't have that many models,so I put them on the window still

  • @Lord_Vesh
    @Lord_Vesh 11 місяців тому +17

    Whenever someone converts a stormcast into a space marine, Sigmar sheds a tear…

    • @ddis29
      @ddis29 11 місяців тому +6

      i agree. they make better emperor's children 😁

    • @sleeplessknight99
      @sleeplessknight99 11 місяців тому

      Sigmarines don't belong in a Space Marine conversion. They belong in the garbage.

    • @WOLFxLORD
      @WOLFxLORD 11 місяців тому +5

      They're great for primaris size sanguinary guard.

    • @omoroburns2172
      @omoroburns2172 11 місяців тому +3

      Wdym he essentially made space marines but fantasy.

    • @Per_Sun
      @Per_Sun 11 місяців тому

      @@omoroburns2172 Deyz zoggin different! Put dem side by side: one blue, one grey. See? Different.

  • @StimmBehr
    @StimmBehr 11 місяців тому

    Moar Killteam (and warcry)

  • @darrincummins9994
    @darrincummins9994 11 місяців тому

    Your facial expressions remind me of my best friend 😂 ❤

  • @user-bm4nk4zh3q
    @user-bm4nk4zh3q 11 місяців тому

    Could u do the new cerastus knight in pink and purple to go with ur other knight

  • @fromization1
    @fromization1 11 місяців тому

    Just define all terrain as heavy terrain if you wanna "turn off" vantage points? Or at least minimize the impact of them.

  • @Baptist85
    @Baptist85 11 місяців тому

    Disagree on the Beastmen. That's a hard hit man. Yes it needed looking at as it was very strong, however what this has done has really made it null and void. Any space marine team with bolter discipline and/or lethal 5+ is wiping beastmen out in one activation. What do they have now? Limited range weak shooting and reasonable melee. That's it 🤷‍♂️😢

  • @alexandergalica9383
    @alexandergalica9383 11 місяців тому

    17 critical HITs

  • @TheEnd
    @TheEnd 11 місяців тому +1

    Squirreled away? I think you meant squared away?

  • @KevinoftheCosmos
    @KevinoftheCosmos 11 місяців тому +7

    Stormcasts have only looked better and better over the years. Especially since Dominion. It's a good time to be a fan.

  • @OriginalGameing009
    @OriginalGameing009 11 місяців тому

    Can you start doing battel reports please

  • @mason6670
    @mason6670 11 місяців тому +1

    Episode 200 needs to be in front of a live crowd at adepticon

  • @Bloodworia
    @Bloodworia 11 місяців тому

    The Ashes of Faith box felt really bad for me. The Inquisitional Retinue kill team sucks and i realize i don't care about playing narrative campaigns. I hate how the Interrogator doesn't even have a default melee weapon like literally any other kill team leader. YES YOU CAN BUY ONE FOR 3 EP, 3EP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Also Leviathan came out too soon after.

  • @tristanlee8495
    @tristanlee8495 11 місяців тому

    I think this is the first time the new aesthetic for the Stormcast has missed, because the old Neave Blacktalon is infinitely superior, and unfortunately I think it comes down entirely to the pose. The old pose was honestly one of the best poses GW have ever produced and even in the better looking armour the pose just diminishes it's quality so much. Also I think the new head actually looks worse than the old one, though that might just have been the paintjob.

  • @dew7972
    @dew7972 11 місяців тому

    I have a hunch, they are going to push Nids hard, and one of the kill teams will be a tyranid specific one, with special characters just for kill team.
    Either that i wouldnt be to sad for Slaanesh kill team. Ive been enjoying kill team quite alot. I agree though, vantage point is quite annoying. I think the game is better off without it.

  • @neilandrews2995
    @neilandrews2995 11 місяців тому

    Next season space hulk 2.0

  • @cloraformsgood5340
    @cloraformsgood5340 11 місяців тому +2

    Minotaur = (my- no - tor) love from UK

    • @ryans9450
      @ryans9450 11 місяців тому

      It’s definitely Min- Oh- Tar, love from the US!

    • @ACoolDude.
      @ACoolDude. 11 місяців тому +1

      @@ryans9450 it's definitely "Me-No-Torrrr", love from France !

    • @mememachine6022
      @mememachine6022 11 місяців тому

      Mee no tau russ -> german

    • @6Grey6malkin6
      @6Grey6malkin6 11 місяців тому

      Meh - new - tor , love from speech therapy ❤

    • @bloodgulchpatrick
      @bloodgulchpatrick 11 місяців тому

      Mine-o-tar

  • @battlebrotherstabletop
    @battlebrotherstabletop 11 місяців тому +2

    The change to chaos cultists is awesome! They’re still strong but not crazy OP. Goats on the other hand… they got hit way too hard. Frenzy is meaningless now and they’re straight up a bad team now. Huge bummer.

  • @blackbusterletsplay9377
    @blackbusterletsplay9377 11 місяців тому

    How could he possibly have mire to say?

  • @ThatSupportTho
    @ThatSupportTho 11 місяців тому +1

    i poste for the algorithm.

  • @nachodrd
    @nachodrd 11 місяців тому

    I'd love to do some conversions using the Stormcast for my Templars army. The main issue though is that roughly 40% of the models in SE are female, and it's just a hard time figuring out what to do with those. I'm kinda new into the hobby, so there's no other armies where I could put the huge amazons.

    • @planktonic-larvae
      @planktonic-larvae 11 місяців тому +3

      You turn them into femarines and watch nerds rage.

    • @LairdDeimos
      @LairdDeimos 11 місяців тому

      Custodes are individually crafted works of gene-art. There is no reason they can't be female, and any lore dork who whines about it you have the authority to decapitate and turn into a servoskull.

    • @malakimphoros2164
      @malakimphoros2164 11 місяців тому

      Sisters of Silence maybe?

  • @magnusmillerwilson
    @magnusmillerwilson 11 місяців тому +2

    I’m not excited for Kill Team S3 at all. Hard pass. I’m so angry at GW for not making Gallowfall or Ashes of Faith available because of their terrible choice of forced scarcity that I’m done collecting Kill Team completely. I loved S2 because of the amazing terrain and the idea of amazing Space Hulk stuff, and I’ll be doing Boarding Actions games and Arks of Omen with my gaming guys. I’ll even use them for Deathwatch RPG. But the fact that Gallowfall and Ashes of Faith came out so quick and were so buried and scarce knocked me off the Kill Team train. I’m done. F GW.

    • @malakimphoros2164
      @malakimphoros2164 11 місяців тому

      Good. There are a lot of great wargames that make for great hobby projects.
      Like Turnip28, Gaslands, the sea warfare game from Mantic.

  • @legogodzilla
    @legogodzilla 11 місяців тому

    You play KoW Armada? Vids or it didn't happen.

  • @Gumlass1
    @Gumlass1 11 місяців тому

    Yeah. Production issues definitely ruined KT season 2.

  • @bon3tynormy
    @bon3tynormy 11 місяців тому +2

    moin

  • @summonlessermaker
    @summonlessermaker 11 місяців тому

    Star Wars Legion rules for Rose: shoots a team member and she gets inspired +1 thinking she's saving everyone. Lol

  • @praisethesun3153
    @praisethesun3153 11 місяців тому

    Square

  • @MrSteelface96
    @MrSteelface96 11 місяців тому

    wasd

  • @quahodron2756
    @quahodron2756 11 місяців тому +1

    Jay rambling about Star Wars makes me every time remember, how much I hate the new "Disney Star Wars" (except for Rogue 1). It really is a mess. So ... can we please have no live action 40k, please?

  • @eliasabel303
    @eliasabel303 11 місяців тому +1

    First

  • @redgreen09
    @redgreen09 11 місяців тому

    well seen it but i know that GW does not know who are or care of this you tube chanel nope not one bit bet if you go to main ofecs of GW you not get pass the front door with out diliviring some one llutch or apling fore a job as a janter sorry how life is to nest vid