Stephen A. calls Mad Dog a Grinch for his Jayson Tatum take 👀 | First Take
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- Stephen A. calls Mad Dog a Grinch for his Jayson Tatum take 👀 | First Take
Stephen A. Smith, Chris “Mad Dog” Russo debate whether Jayson Tatum has established himself as a top 10 player in the NBA.
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Tatum fell one point shy of tying Kareem’s record for playoff points by a rookie in 2018. Mad dog is just trolling
Definitely is trolling lol look at his face after saying wat he said about Brandon ingram
I can name you 15 players right now better than he is that even you will have to admit are better than him. Stop it just stop it
He did say he's top 6-7
@@MrSuperman957 he named 6-7 guys he thinks are better. He didn't really make his point. He said he wasn't too 10 then failed to name 10 players better than him
@@pepperdeez if u think theres even close to 15 players better than Tatum u have no credibility
The Brandon Ingram reaction 😂😂😂😂
What?!? LOL
@@mikeyisniceha the audacity of mad dog 😂🤣
Mad Dogg is dead wrong on that
nah ingram gonna be better
Tatum right now is better than Anthony Davis
I’m a Lakers fan and I agree with this
Exactly AD is overrated. Dude is always injured, not a leader and he’s not a number 1 on a championship team so how is he better than Tatum
Def gave you more than AD did this season.
You only say that bc of injury. Skill wise AD is better
@@wayno115 who’s better defensively ? AD. He is injured all the time but skill wise he’s a top guy. AD hasn’t had a chance to be the #1 on a championship teams. Jayson Tatum has only averaged 23+ 3 times while Ad has done it multiple times while still being efficient.
Mad dog is the classic back in my day guy
I said the same thing my g
Yea a clown
Thats hops in his DeLorean when its time to head home 🏎💨
@@poppa956 Respect the old school INSECT HAHAHAHAHA 🤣
Yeah, idk why they keep putting this clown on tv. Smh
Mad Dog is hilarious 😂😂😂
in a bad way. He is very ignorant
@@theassassin9326Not really. He said in this video that Tatum is arguably top 8. Right now, 2 years later, and he’s not even Top 10. Mad Dog was right 😂
The way Steven a says 'WHAT?' 😂😂😂😂 too funny
The hate for Tatum mannnn 😭😭
I don't think you know what hate is
when you start listing the top 10 players in the league you will start to realize how idiotic you sound putting jason tatum there 😂 😂
@@chandlerdavidson8476 wouldn't say idiotic, he's exactly 10th, even including Kawhi and AD.
1. Kawhi
2. Giannis
3. Durant
4. Curry
5. Jokic
6. Luka
7. LeBron
8. Healthy AD
9. Embiid
10. Jason Tatum
@@russellwestbrookyellingatw9381 You did not rank AD Ahead of him😂😂
but he is not top 10 player
The new Skip Bayless
It’s amazing how Tatum is doing this at JUST 20 years old. Yes he’s been JUST 20 for 4 years now but legends sometimes don’t age.
19*
I know Joel Embiid is a great player but his argument is so flawed considering the fact that JT has bounced him out of the playoffs twice and has been the best player of two ECF teams
@@sangohkim46 bubble don’t count lmao and it was more of a choke job by sixers as a whole first time Celtics beat them. We led going into 4th quarter in all them games. Tatum isn’t top 10 yet. He will be just not yet
@@eddie9573 excuses
@@eddie9573 the bubble counts
Embiid is better than Tatum though come on lol
@@eddie9573 tbh I rather have Jayson Tatum then embid, i think he’s can do morep
“Tatum is NOT TOP 10” *proceeds to name only 5 people better currently than tatum*
Here’s ur 10
1: Durant
2: Giannis
3: Joker
4: Embiid
5: Lebron
6: Curry
7: Luka
8:Kawhi
9:Kyrie
10 Ice Trae
@@maxavierbenitez7013 trae young is not better then jayson Tatum 😭😭😭😭
@@maxavierbenitez7013 you can definitely make an argument Tatum is better than Trae
@@maxavierbenitez7013 your top 6 is understandable as of right now, but there’s major flaws in the rest of the list.
Luka has never won a playoff series.
Kawhi may be a better player but he hasn’t played a game this season.
Kyrie and trae young have and never will be the two way star that Tatum is.
@@maxavierbenitez7013
1a/1b: KD/Giannis
3: Curry
4: Jokic
5: Luka
6: Embiid
7: Tatum
8: Lebron
9: Kawhi
10: AD
*If everyone is fully healthy, but health with the last 2 are historically bad enough u could argue taking them off
Steven A never letting Magic Johnson and Bryan colangelo of the hook when it comes to Tatum 😂
And he shouldn’t lol
He was always going to Boston though would’ve used the first pick if Philly really wanted Tatum they had the pick
"HE'S 24!!!!" 😂🤣😂🤣
How old is he?
@@milanskrbic4614 19
If Jayson Tatum is not a top 10 player, then the league is in incredible hands
Yeah they in Lukas hands
@@antoniooviedo5552 no cap, Luka is the one
🧢 Luka has never made it out of the first round of the playoffs. Luka and Tatum are on the same level, I would argue. Both are young ascending NBA stars.
@@jeremiahelliott luka is way better than Tatum and it isn’t his fought he hasn’t been out of the first round he has did all he could he just didn’t have any help and he was playing against the fully loaded clippers with pg and Kawhi both times
@@DBZSTAY don’t anoint him yet until he wins a couple of rounds
What are we talking about here? Win more than 1 playoff game? He's won 6 series, booker doesn't have a good team? Cp3 is the best pure point in the nba bridges is a border line elite 2 way player, ayton is a demon in the paint. Mad dog is a character not an analyst it's why he drives jj crazy
Do people forget that Tatum has been to 2 ECF’s? Unbelievable
I've been saying that to friends alot lately. It's seems that across all platforms these talking heads have dismissed the fact that this Celtics core is accustomed to making deep playoff runs. Hasn't resulted in a championship yet but they have so much experience to fall back on and it's as if the NBA community has forgotten that
Wow and he's only 21 years old!
Hes not better than in no order
Lebron
Kawhi
Kd
Giannis
Curry
Jokic
Embiid
Kyrie
PG
Luka
I can see an argument for him over PG and kyrie for missed time but thats 9th at best its not really a lock.
Actually 3!
micheal olusanya I’ll take him easily over PG. and Kawhi we have to see him come back..his career hasn’t been impressive since the Toronto ring. I think Tatum is the best player 25 and under not named Luka. Luka also hadn’t made it out of the 1st round and will probably not this year either 🤷🏾♂️
Jayson Tatum is light years ahead of Brandon Ingram. I can’t believe Mad Dog said Tatum and Ingram are on the same level.
You’re delusional if you think Tatum is light years ahead of Ingram. Ingram that dude too
Stop it, ingram can compete with him on any day
Let's see Ingram defend Kevin fkin Durant a whole game, and give you 30 on the other end.
Light years is a bit disrespectful to Ingram, but I’d say he’s better. Still Ingram could outplay him any night as well.
Tatum is better but I wouldn’t say light years
Did this man really say the Suns don’t have a good team?!
I think he was saying around booker not a good team.
Maybe not the best way to put it but I understand what he was saying. Without Booker they are going to struggle hard because Paul can't carry the offensive load and Bridges and Ayton are so reliant on Booker and Paul creating for them. They don't have a true #2 scorer on this team and are very reliant on Booker offensively.
As good as Bridges is he showed 0 improvement this year in pts, reb, ast, and his 3pt shooting dropped 6%. To ask him to be your #2 wing scorer is a bit scary.
It's even scarier their defense has been so bad in the 1st 2 games. The defense should be the constant (look at what DAL has done to Utah despite not having Luka). The fact they are giving up buckets, and now are missing their best offensive player, could spell a little trouble.
Well put. I agree with a lot of your points. I think as a team in the regular season they were able to figure it out when Booker missed games. Their others haven’t been as effective, Crowder especially. I think they should still play well enough to win the series, but we’ll see.
He’s also talking about Devin booker being considered for mvp and starts naming his teammates as if he’s a Celtic. SMH. Lol
He said they don’t have a great team
this aged well, becasue look at them now. He proved me wrong too. Dogg knows his stuff.
Tatum beat Giannis and Embiid and took LeBron to a game 7 as a rookie. In his 3rd year, he swept Embiid en route to the Eastern Conference Finals. Last year, without Brown, the Celtics won 2 games in the playoffs if you count the play in. The only thing common in both those games? He dropped 50! Tatum is big time and I believe he's better than Embiid.
I agree with everything u said except when u said he's better than embiid lol
@@Muristacks he is better
@@Muristacks yea idk what he’s talking about. Embiid arguably could’ve been over Rudy for DPOY and he just won the scoring title. You have lost your marbles sir. Embiid>Tatum. But Tatum is def still an amazing player
Players better than tatum: LeBron , Giannis , KD , Jokic , Embiid , Curry and Kawhi when healthy but that's rare so I can see people putting Tatum over Kawhi
He is also better than analytics hero jokic. Give me an elite 6’7 wing who plays both sides
Anthony Davis got some making up to do to be high on anyones list especially ahead of Tatum and the way he’s playing right now
AD just gotta worry about staying on the court. Doesn't matter where anybody ranks him.
Brandon Ingram sure was an upgrade for the Pelicans 😂😂 we're still waiting for Zion.
Bruuh. Brittle ahhh bones
Mad Dogg was on the loudest pack this Wednesday lol
He's an idiot. Can't stand him tbh
Stephen A missed Skip so much he had to bring in Mad Dog haha!
Its laughable how egregious these takes sound. C’s just completed the craziest turnaround in a single season, bulldozed the league, then won game 1 after coughing up a 15 point lead, not playing their best, coming down the floor with 10 seconds and WON on a buzzer beating, stupefying, play that went through 4 sets of hands before being expertly flushed by the monSTAR Tatum . and still, the nets are being heralded…for what?
How old is Jayson Tatum?
4:50
Thanks Stephen A!
How is luka top 10 then when he hasn’t gotten out the first round but tatum isn’t top 10 because he hasn’t played in the finals??? What?😂😂😂😂 trae young even went to the ECF last year??
He’s tripping. Like Luka is top 10, and close to top 5 even, but it’s because of his talent, individual accolades, and numbers. Not because of playoff success lol. And Tatum has entered the top 10 too.
Let’s be real luka is better than Tatum
@@GeneralBlaze95 wht makes luka better? Tatum is miles better on defense 😂 same argument with giannis and KD imo. KD is more offensively skilled but gianni’s clears on defense so i thjnk gainnis is better because he can match KD offensively even tho the skill level doesn’t match. Same with tatum and luka, luka won’t lock up KD while dropping 30 like tatum would. I love luka but he’s not better than tatum imo and tatum has had more playoff success as the first option as well
@@GeneralBlaze95 I love luka but he’s overhyped dude, lukas usage rate is miles over tatum so he’ll average more assist but that doesn’t mean he’s making them better. I’ll take tatum defense with him averaging 5 assist and 30 points in far less usage rate than luka , the ball moves more in tatums offense. While also like i said tatum completly clears luka on defense , peiole value offense too much. Same thing him saying kyrie is better than tatum no he’s not 😂
@@TheBlackestKnight21 yeah I agree his usage rate is mad high but the mavs need him in order to be successful and every talks about him not having success in the playoffs but he played great his team just wasn’t good enough
We just gonna ingnore the fact that molly called Jason Tatum a dukie lmao 🤣
I just love Mad Dog and Stephen A😂😂
mad dog trying hold his own laugh when he said ingram lol
Paul George, 6'8, like Jayson Tatum. Jayson is not 6'9. Both offensively skilled.
2013 ECF: Paul George was 23
2014 ECF: Paul George was 24
Pat4Clippers you were commenting this exact same thing about Edwards yesterday. Flip flopping jinx
Tatum is 6’10 and his game is nothing like Paul George he is more skilled, talented, clutch and more physical so I don’t understand that comparison a better comp for Tatum would be T-Mac, Kobe or a player of that caliber not PG
Look at the smirk on his face 😂😂 he trolling
Mad Dog gotta stop. Tatum is top 10
Kawhi Lebron Curry Djokic Embiid Ja Morant Luka KD Kyrie are all better than him. Clearly
He is definitely in the conversation, I didn’t include Harden, as you already know the reason
1. KD
2. Giannis
3. Jokic
4. Embiid
5. Curry
6. Kawhi
7. Luka
8. Lebron
9. AD if healthy
10. It’s a toss up between Ja, Tatum & Book
@@Droselover-hu1gt Ja is not better than him lmaoo
@@Droselover-hu1gt also Giannis
@@timsweeney684 facts. Niggas just dickriding ja this year. Ja not even better than dame….. nor Kyrie
That smile when he said ingram 😂🚀
Dude really said that Booker got no help! 😂
Lmao the way he said "Ingram" 😂😂 The dude is trolling 😂😂
2:13, Stephen A. and Mad Dog Russo are so good on First Take that at some point we need more then one appearance a week from Doggie
i like how he just lowkey dissing on the suns like that, subtle
did he just say Booker doesn’t have a great team?? please tell me he didn’t.
Walmart Skip Bayless need to chill 😂😂
Stephen a's reaction when mad dogg said Ingram 🤣 😂 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 loool
He’s actually 19…
the way dog looked at the camera and said Ingram bruh😭😭😭😭😭
"Ingram."
WHAT!!! LMFAO
Bro this man is a terrible analyst. Max left for this? Crazy.
Max and Stephen A are must see tv
SA needs people on First Take that’ll make him the smartest dude in the room or that he can demolish in a debate, Max made him feel the opposite of that so SA needed him to go
@@3PlC3R1C ding ding ding. Correct.
hes such good tv tho
I disagree, I like this new format better. The SAS and Max format was getting boring. Having a rotation of Athletes and personalities makes the show more interesting in the long run. Skip was still a better cohost than Max, he was funnier and had absurd but really interesting arguments but Max is smarter and a better debater. Still though, I think Skip & Shannon has more chemistry than Skip & SAS.
This guy is bringing up Tatum losing to LeBron when he was a rookie. Never bring Mad Dog back on this show please
The funny thing is...the question is "Established Top 10" and SAS argument was "In Conversation and he's 24"
So I actually respect Mad Dogs opinion because the others guys are more established in top 10. Tatum is knocking on door but the question was "established".
Not he holding Tatum rookie year against him 😂
Glad Mad Dog's calmed down a little. Most of his time on First Take it seems like he's trying too hard, like he's trying to out-yell Stephen A.
Still doing too much with the trolling, though.
The mighty nets😂😂😂😂😂
I'm amazed these type of people get 2 talk about sports
Perfect combination together on Wednesdays 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lets be honest... Skip 2.0 is there for comedy... his takes are unbeliavable and the reactions from both JJ and SAS were gold!
He got em when he said embid hasn't been to a conference final
The fact that this guy says AD is better than Tatum rn voids all other opinions he has
As a Durant fan, I'm sitting here listening to Stephen A listing off Tatum's stats like he's KD and I love it bahahaha
It definitely is 4/20 today because Mad Dog was HIGH this whole segment with what he had to say
The way mad dog says Ingram
Mad Dog is the new Skipped lol
“The former dukie” 😂
I died when mad dog said Brandon ingram is as good as Tatum lmaooo
Stephen A trying to sneak and text while Russo is talking. Ur not that sneaky SA🤣
At least Doggie didn't bring up some player from the 60's hahahaha
Stephen A with the love for JT! My man
The fact tha yall are keep mentioning ad as a top 10 player which he hasnt been even close to in the last 2 years and leaving out some definite top 10 players is ridiculous
TBH I'm a Lakers fan, I'd definitely rather have Tatum rn over LeBron. He actually gives effort and plays great defense, LeBron doesn't even try on that end of the floor and gives up in all together in games. He can still get a bucket whenever he wants but idc. Tatum would be averaging 30 on our team too
Lol Tatum has won exactly zero championships and is nowhere near the playmaker lebron is. If lebron is in the playoffs he is trying. Unless you honestly think anyone would trust tatum in a 7 game series over lebron
@@Cheezkrispies131 Yeah LeBron is a better playmaker. That's it. Tatum is a much more versatile and efficient scorer who knows how to shoot not go on hot streaks and he actually defends. DEFENSE wins games DEFENSE wins championships. You've obviously never played the sport, defense is the most important end of the floor. I'd 100% take Tatum over LeBron every day of the week now because he's a lot younger, tries and plays well on the most important end of the floor. Now if it was LeBron from 10 years ago then of course I'm taking LeBron, but rn he's old, he has no future and he can't even play the game properly and is fooling all you delusional people that have no idea about the game with empty stats
Thanks for saying Embiid first 🔥
This is deja vu, SAS said the same thing about KD to Skip Bayless when he was 24. 😬
Former Dukey 😂😂😂😂 that was funny
Well said SAS
I think Mad Dog is absolutely insane, but he was SPOT ON on his early assessment this time around.
They keep saying that it was his first game winner but he did it against the bucks in the first regular season game last year
the “what” after mad dog said Ingram is ova tatum was me
BI and Tatum not too far off from each other lol
Tatum definitely better
STOP
Stephen A ain't cut GIANNIS this slack when HE WAS 24
U know u have arrived wen SAS gives u the KD speech about his skills
If he not top 10 he's definitely top 11 or 12, at least top 15 if you wanna get specific
Top 15 for sure. 10, nah.
wheres Perk?
He is so funny bruhh 😂😂😂😂
Stephen A and I both had the same reaction at the same time he he compared Brandon Ingram and Jayson Tatum 😂😂 I don’t think he knows what he’s talking about
I agree that you have to win more than 1 playoff series to even be considered in the mix of top 10-12ish.
Which Tatum has won more than 1 btw 😂
Basketball is a team game
Boston Celtics fan here. Jayson Tatum disappeared in the 2022 NBA Finals against the Golden State Warriors. Where was JT??? Mad Dog has been vindicated.
Boston fan here. Idk the other guy, but he's right, and Steven's argument is silly. "He's 24!" Yeah, which means he's got time and room to grow. He's got the potential to be a top 10 player. Especially as some others get older and start to decline or retire. But he's not there yet.
Think Tatum is around 8-9 behind steph, giannis, durant, joker, embiid, luka, lebron, in no particular order and fights ja and booker for 8-10
How do you leave out Kevin Durant?
I love bufffum ! Shoutout Dogy and Smith
This is the same guy that said the Suns aren't a great team. Lol
I’ll take Tatum over Kyrie any day everyday.
🤡🤡
@@andrerandall7873 how is that a clown take? Kyrie hasn't had a good playoff moment since leaving Cleveland he went and joined Boston they made a conference finals without him, he came back into the line-up they got beat in 5 by Milwaukee with Kyrie shooting 30% from the floor, he leaves and we add Kemba who is a worse approximation of Kyrie and make a conference final? Now he's in Brooklyn and they got swept. He's not a superstar, if he's the best player on your team you aren't winning anything, he's unreliable, he's not a leader and he doesn't make people better. Tatum is way better than him at this point
😂😂😂 of course you would
@@spotemgotem8151 anyone with any basketball knowledge and common sense would! Tatum is 6 inches taller, 6 years younger, is just as effective and prolific of a scorer (higher PER), and he is RELIABLE and rarely ever gets hurt or misses game. It’s no contest.
1:40 mad dog just losing his idea like he’s Biden lmao
Brandon Ingram is madly underrated he is the next kd
no
Tatum being only 24 is crazyyyy
“Ingram”
….”WHAAAAAAAAT????”
I love how first take brought mad dog in to be Skip Bayless 2.0
I’m not calling Tatum a superstar until he at least sees the Finals. But saying he’s not top 10 in the league right now is silly.
When he’s says Ingram 😂😂😂
Whaaat?
@@milanskrbic4614 is said when he said Ingram.
Ridiculous statement.
Man she really called him a “former dookie” 🤣
😂
I stopped paying attention when he said Booker doesnt have a good team
Russo goes against his point saying to not get caught up in the moment then brings up Ingram whose won 1 playoff game
ESPN just bringing in someone to out-crazy SAS
He is definitely in the conversation, I didn’t include Harden, as you already know the reason
1. KD
2. Giannis
3. Jokic
4. Embiid
5. Curry
6. Kawhi
7. Luka
8. Lebron
9. AD if healthy
10. It’s a toss up between Ja, Tatum & Book
Kyrie, Jamal Murray..
Def Kyrie though
give me book over tatum everyday
Nooooo u gotta have kyrie in there before ja, but that aside I might give it to book because of what we have seen from him, but Tatum could take it depending on how the playoffs go
Damian lillard
Jokic, Embiid, Giannis, Lebron, Durant, Curry, Irving, Booker, and Luka are ahead of Tatum but you could probably argue he is #10 if you're not including injured players like AD and Kawhi on that list.
He's not Top 10 yet but he is on his way. As Jay said, he's knocking on the door of the elite room, this Series he's in now is a chance to get in the room.
Question is.. is Tatum a top 5 player? Is Tatum about to b better than Jordan,