Ive been using this for almost a year now. I go crazy with it in multiple buckets and i have used about 200ml of the 5l. Pretty sure i bought it on your recommendation
I use AutoGlym Pure Shampoo Jon, which is around £8 for 500ml. I literally use 1 capful per bucket, it's foamy and plenty good enough. I'd estimate 1 capful to be 10ml at the most, maybe less. so that is 50 washes for £8 = 16p per wash. If a capful is less than 10ml (which it probably is), that makes it less than 15p per wash. I'm happy with that.
I myself bought 2 pieces of 5 liters of these this red and Super Suds which is also 1900:1. It will last my lifetime as I don't work full time washing and cleaning cars. But I have heard different about the products the one that is Super Suds has a shine enhancer in the shampoo? While the red one doesn't have it? I notice very little difference in how they feel to use in how well they glide and foam. The super suds maybe add some shine? Both are very good shampoos that maintain a high standard and are hard to beat considering the 5 liter price. I paid a little more than 12 pounds calculated here in Sweden on Black Friday. Think I paid £25-30 for 5 litres. It's also cheap considering how much you get out of it. I gave away to my parents and sold to good friends for the same price I paid myself. I probably have 7 liters left of both of them, which should be enough for many more years. I alternate between 1900:1 and Geyon PPF wash which takes some iron oxide. It is almost the same if not the same as their Restart shampoo which I have also tried. Both smell like iron oxide remover. They open up the protection if you now have paint protection on the car, which I don't feel Carchem shampoo does? Of course Geyon PPF smells bad but gives good glide and works very well on the rims. Then I happened to get it at a very good price on Black Friday in a store here, so I bought several liters of it. It cleans very well, restores a clogged paint protection so it repels water again. It makes it better if it cleans the pores or what to say about the varnish protection?
That actually a brilliant idea I spent ages and created a load of mess trying to decant this same soap in to 500ml bottle just to store it instead of pulling out the 5l bottle. I went to wash my car the other day and still didn’t use it as I knew I’ll have to 1st go find a syringe work out how much i need to use so I just use another shampoo that I know I just need to squirt it twice. This is what puts me off using high concentrate shampoos. I will now pre mix it down using di water so it’s ready to go & more convenient. Thanks Jon.
Can you please educate us on snow foam. I’ve never used it. Is it a gimmick? I worked on loads of cars on my spray painting apprenticeship, but we never used that - just pressure clean and shampoo. It looks expensive, so is it too expensive to make it worthwhile?
@@ForensicDetailing Excellent, I was worried you'd answer differently and we'd lose the unbiased reviews. Good to know there are no plans to start shilling your own products like a lot of the other youtubers.
What's the ingredients in this shampoo? 🤔. I think I would prefer to spend a bit more on a shampoo with quality ingredients witj plenty of lubrication and cleaning power. I've yet to find a shampoo that will dethrone Carpro Reset shampoo as its perfect on everything for my conditions.
My only concerns with this super high dilution ratios shampoos is always the lubrication. I’ve used few and I dont feel them lubricating enough at those dilutions. Dont know about other peoples experiences.
so why can car chem who formulate and have large blending and compounding infrastructure afford to sell it to you for 1.5p a wash or 12 quid for 5 litres?
A bit overly complicating the math Mate. 1:2000 gives 1/2 milliliter per liter of stuff. 25 liters of wash stuff needs 12.5 milliliters. 5 liters in the jug at 12.5 mils each use is 400 washes. 1200p per jug / 400 washes is 3p per wash. If you are trying to compare product formulas, you'll need to consider their dilution ratios and prices. Basically... if the recommended (15mL) dose makes a satisfactory wash, you got a nice deal on some soap. Unless, like you say, it may be cheap for a reason. Adjust for need and budget. Always enjoy your efforts. Being a traitor to the Crown (born and live in the colonies...) it's harder to compare products without digging into the ingredients/formulas, etc., but still good info. Cheers!
Don't forget to add the cost of the bottle, the label, the label design, the label printing, the advertising, the bulk shipping costs, etc... plus you are just selling on a finished product, you don't have any R&D costs and salaries to cover. It's not as simple as chemical + water cost 😉
Yes but I bought this from a firm that formulate it and blend it. And it comes with label and packing. And they have staff costs and rates to pay. And that's the retail price not whole sale price.
There's a funny thing about your "gel like" shampoo and that's the "gel like" quality is achieved by adding salt and is only done to make you _feel_ like you've got something for your money. One of the commonest surfactants SLES (which the Carchem 1900:1 contains between 1 and 5% of) comes from the chemical factory as a 27% aqueous solution and it's _barely_ thicker than water. Add more water and salt and you can make a gel that almost won't pour. It doesn't need the salt to do it's job, it works just as well without. If you look at the MSDS for Carchem 1900:1 you'll find that it is _at most_ 20% surfactants including SLES, Cocoamide and SDBS. That, by the way, is an ingredients list that probably matches the bottle of hair shampoo your wife has in the bathroom.
Yer it's just standard mild surfactants. Don't know if they use salt as gelling agent there's other ways to do it. But all car shampoos are mild surfactants. You pay about 1.5p a wash with this one. And it works great
Could you just not save yourself the faffing about mixing it out with water in 1L form & calculate the ratio neat into the bucket to get the same results? 62.5 / 10 means just over 6ml in the bucket. Say 7ml straight in the bucket in 12.5L works out about 1785:1. Roughly 1.6p per wash 👌 I get what you're doing with the video though in highlighting the ridiculous pricing of some shampoos 👍
yer you could mate. I will say this though B its a faff trying to dose 6ml from the jerrycan when its this thick. So just having a litre bottle you can tip around 100ml into the bucket is good idea. Or you could form a middle ground and mix it up at say 500:1. I quite like using the tolco proportioners to dose it out.
Ive been using this for almost a year now. I go crazy with it in multiple buckets and i have used about 200ml of the 5l. Pretty sure i bought it on your recommendation
I use AutoGlym Pure Shampoo Jon, which is around £8 for 500ml.
I literally use 1 capful per bucket, it's foamy and plenty good enough. I'd estimate 1 capful to be 10ml at the most, maybe less.
so that is 50 washes for £8 = 16p per wash. If a capful is less than 10ml (which it probably is), that makes it less than 15p per wash.
I'm happy with that.
Absolutely second Forensic Detailing product line ❤
I myself bought 2 pieces of 5 liters of these this red and Super Suds which is also 1900:1.
It will last my lifetime as I don't work full time washing and cleaning cars.
But I have heard different about the products the one that is Super Suds has a shine enhancer in the shampoo?
While the red one doesn't have it?
I notice very little difference in how they feel to use in how well they glide and foam.
The super suds maybe add some shine?
Both are very good shampoos that maintain a high standard and are hard to beat considering the 5 liter price.
I paid a little more than 12 pounds calculated here in Sweden on Black Friday.
Think I paid £25-30 for 5 litres.
It's also cheap considering how much you get out of it.
I gave away to my parents and sold to good friends for the same price I paid myself.
I probably have 7 liters left of both of them, which should be enough for many more years.
I alternate between 1900:1 and Geyon PPF wash which takes some iron oxide.
It is almost the same if not the same as their Restart shampoo which I have also tried.
Both smell like iron oxide remover.
They open up the protection if you now have paint protection on the car, which I don't feel Carchem shampoo does?
Of course Geyon PPF smells bad but gives good glide and works very well on the rims.
Then I happened to get it at a very good price on Black Friday in a store here, so I bought several liters of it.
It cleans very well, restores a clogged paint protection so it repels water again.
It makes it better if it cleans the pores or what to say about the varnish protection?
The current price for 5 litres of Car-Chem’s 1900:1 Shampoo is £32.99 - available on their website. It's still a good buy👍
I’ve been using this shampoo for years and it’s a great product. 👍👍
That actually a brilliant idea I spent ages and created a load of mess trying to decant this same soap in to 500ml bottle just to store it instead of pulling out the 5l bottle.
I went to wash my car the other day and still didn’t use it as I knew I’ll have to 1st go find a syringe work out how much i need to use so I just use another shampoo that I know I just need to squirt it twice.
This is what puts me off using high concentrate shampoos.
I will now pre mix it down using di water so it’s ready to go & more convenient.
Thanks Jon.
You need a 15 ml pelican pump or a 2.5 ml pump that's what we use at work and always at product to water.
I'm ok happy with Bilt Hamber auto wash at .14p a wash bit appreciate the video
Could you please test Car Gods products . I think they are excellent but would be interested to hear your thoughts.
Can you please educate us on snow foam. I’ve never used it. Is it a gimmick? I worked on loads of cars on my spray painting apprenticeship, but we never used that - just pressure clean and shampoo. It looks expensive, so is it too expensive to make it worthwhile?
So... when are we getting the 'Forensic Detailing' range of products? ;)
no plans to do this mate. landing gear is down :)
Im so happy to hear that. Truly the best product reviewer!@ForensicDetailing
@@ForensicDetailing Excellent, I was worried you'd answer differently and we'd lose the unbiased reviews. Good to know there are no plans to start shilling your own products like a lot of the other youtubers.
I still think it would be a worthwhile venture. I think your unbiased reviews would just build a brilliant product range. Bilt hamber on roids 👀
I am from Puerto Rico , i no make comments but i see all youre videos … thanks for u time
Lets a test going against the competition ! Perfect what the channel came from ❤❤❤
What's the ingredients in this shampoo? 🤔. I think I would prefer to spend a bit more on a shampoo with quality ingredients witj plenty of lubrication and cleaning power. I've yet to find a shampoo that will dethrone Carpro Reset shampoo as its perfect on everything for my conditions.
It's easily as good as carpro reset but at a fraction of the cost.
John what’s happened to wax planet products, cannot find there website anymore?
in2detailing stock it mate I think Tony sold it a while back
The farm i work for would get through that shampoo in a day or two, the 2 power washers are in heavy use
I've thought for some time that "Forensic Detailing" would be a great name for a boutique range of detailing products.
Jon, how do we make an economical reset ?
Im not sure you can mate. from memory it was about 30-40p a wash i think which is not that bad for a premium brand.
I worked out you would need 8ml of neat product in a bucket, at the current price that would make it 5p a wash. 5L of product would make 625 buckets.
dunno mate my maths is terrible ill go with your maths but its like pennies isnt it :)
So if u wash your car ones a week, it will last u 12 years
Watched the video of you unboxing this earlier.. when you said it would last years, I didn't think you meant unopened in a cupboard 😉👍🤣
My only concerns with this super high dilution ratios shampoos is always the lubrication. I’ve used few and I dont feel them lubricating enough at those dilutions.
Dont know about other peoples experiences.
Is use this same product from car chem and it Is so slick and smooth with just a drop in the bucket. It's a perfect shampoo. Smells nice aswell
100% would but a forensics product range on the reg
EZ Supernova 200 to 1 dilution £15 , excellent stuff
Garbage. As is their cherry bomb shampoo.
Looks like the slime from ghostbusters 2 😂😂😂
Can it make the toaster dance 🕺
I've got 5 litres of this back when you could customise it
Teabags next 😉
Most of the costs is RnD, manufacturing packaging, marketing, distribution and insurance. The rest is all proft
so why can car chem who formulate and have large blending and compounding infrastructure afford to sell it to you for 1.5p a wash or 12 quid for 5 litres?
Autobrite 1500/1 £8 a bittle of 500ml
what does this bring to the party? I payed 12 quid for 5 litres of 1:2000
A bit overly complicating the math Mate. 1:2000 gives 1/2 milliliter per liter of stuff. 25 liters of wash stuff needs 12.5 milliliters. 5 liters in the jug at 12.5 mils each use is 400 washes. 1200p per jug / 400 washes is 3p per wash. If you are trying to compare product formulas, you'll need to consider their dilution ratios and prices. Basically... if the recommended (15mL) dose makes a satisfactory wash, you got a nice deal on some soap. Unless, like you say, it may be cheap for a reason. Adjust for need and budget. Always enjoy your efforts. Being a traitor to the Crown (born and live in the colonies...) it's harder to compare products without digging into the ingredients/formulas, etc., but still good info. Cheers!
Don't forget to add the cost of the bottle, the label, the label design, the label printing, the advertising, the bulk shipping costs, etc... plus you are just selling on a finished product, you don't have any R&D costs and salaries to cover. It's not as simple as chemical + water cost 😉
Yes but I bought this from a firm that formulate it and blend it. And it comes with label and packing. And they have staff costs and rates to pay. And that's the retail price not whole sale price.
£32.99 now for 5L from Car Chem 😂
I think that is a very cheap clay lube
Test ez supernova thats 2000 to 1
it probably contains some yummy caustic/peroxide chemicals 😋
No it's very very mild nothing nasty. It's not that type of deep cleaning trade product. It's a mild foamy car soap
It's a pure shampoo... 🤦♂️
There's a funny thing about your "gel like" shampoo and that's the "gel like" quality is achieved by adding salt and is only done to make you _feel_ like you've got something for your money. One of the commonest surfactants SLES (which the Carchem 1900:1 contains between 1 and 5% of) comes from the chemical factory as a 27% aqueous solution and it's _barely_ thicker than water. Add more water and salt and you can make a gel that almost won't pour. It doesn't need the salt to do it's job, it works just as well without. If you look at the MSDS for Carchem 1900:1 you'll find that it is _at most_ 20% surfactants including SLES, Cocoamide and SDBS. That, by the way, is an ingredients list that probably matches the bottle of hair shampoo your wife has in the bathroom.
Yer it's just standard mild surfactants. Don't know if they use salt as gelling agent there's other ways to do it. But all car shampoos are mild surfactants. You pay about 1.5p a wash with this one. And it works great
Could you just not save yourself the faffing about mixing it out with water in 1L form & calculate the ratio neat into the bucket to get the same results?
62.5 / 10 means just over 6ml in the bucket. Say 7ml straight in the bucket in 12.5L works out about 1785:1. Roughly 1.6p per wash 👌
I get what you're doing with the video though in highlighting the ridiculous pricing of some shampoos 👍
yer you could mate. I will say this though B its a faff trying to dose 6ml from the jerrycan when its this thick. So just having a litre bottle you can tip around 100ml into the bucket is good idea. Or you could form a middle ground and mix it up at say 500:1. I quite like using the tolco proportioners to dose it out.
@ForensicDetailing fair point Jon! A syringe would be the way to go I reckon 😉