Love the comment about double dipping touchless, what a great idea never thought of that for a turbo wash. I tend to use half a lance per application so could prewash with it, then reapply and contact wash it with just a bucket of water for a super speedy wash!
Hi John, Thank you for the update around Touch On, appreciated. I use this in the winter months to protect my car and the wife’s and in summer months I switch to good old fashioned wax.
You’ve converted me to bilt hamber . Used Meguiars in the past but the results with there products are outstanding. My favorite is auto wheels but they are all excellent!!
Great review again Jon, use the touch on sachets on the wifes car which is about 7 years old so it's more about speed. Just put 30ml sachet in a snow foam bottle, fill with water and apply on the whole car, then rinse with pressure washer. Produces fantastic beading and sheeting. For those doing the maths buying 1L in the 30ml sachets at £1.19 each would be about £39. The 1L bottle is £19.. will be buying the bottle next time.
I use touch-on with the foam lance to coat the caravan after washing. Quick, easy to apply and adds a layer of protection to the panels and plastic windows.
I first tried this when it came out about 3 years back and didn't think that much of it TBH. Since then I've relied on Bathe or Bathe+ depending on which car is being washed, 2 out of the 3 have a Gyeon Ceramic Coating applied. Bathe+ does a great job on the car that is yet to be coated. Unreal beading from Bathe+
This product somewhat reminds me of Turtle Wax Hot Wax non foaming shampoo of the 90s. That was a very effective cleaning shampoo that gave a pretty decent waxed finish.
Why I think BH are brilliant products? I used to love spending hour's cleaning the car, and lets be honest it is a physical and tiring process. I had an issue with my heart and need products which do most of the hard work( as i cant anymore) with excellent results, meaning less physical effort from me and BH are the only consistent products I use . Love them.
Looks decent. I’ve been using Chem Guys Mr Pink lately for foam and clears very well then washing with it after, then Wet Coat. Shiniest results I’ve had for sure.
Literally have koch chemie pw in my basket, very tempted by touch on but didn't want the sachets wanted a bottle and voila, they released a bottle version 😂 will get my order In
I'd definitely want to apply this via a foam cannon personally, it would out class anything in terms of easy of use/coverage at that point. I just wonder how well it holds up vs gyeon wet coat which still seems to be the gold standard of spray and rinse sealants.
I used Touch On on both my parents cars last summer. Two different people asked my Dad if he had a new car and me if my Mum had a new car! I haven’t tried it on my ceramic coated car, but on their Soft 99 Fusso Coat waxed cars, it looked amazing in my opinion.
I have to admit I didn't think this was a shampoo and haven't used it as a shampoo... I use it as a rinse aid only to help drying and adding water beading. Great product but I may now add it to the bucket instead of a spray on after washing the car. Nice that they have a bottle now 😎😎 👍
After just finishing AutoGlym Polar snow foam and polar wash I decided to switch brands to try Bilt Hamber touch less (I bought the 5 litre for £30) after watching your review. I was going to use it the way you said to use it. Once for as it says on the bottle ‘touch less’ and then reapply for a contact wash. But I was going to use the AutoGlym Polar Seal (as I still have some left) But would it be best to use the touch less and touch on without having to use the polar seal? I’m writing this before the end of the video,so apologies if you mention it.
Balls I just bought the “Sachets” for the father in-law. Handy to ration him as he likes to ignore product ratios lol. I’ll be ordering a bottle as very useful reducing costs from £1 a wash to less than 50 pence. Thanks John.
Fear not, the sachets are absolutely excellent. Highly recommended, I've been using them for years and cannot rate them highly enough. For the reason that it leaves such a nice warm glossy glow afterwards. It really give you that wow factor with such little effort 👌 let me know what the 1ltr bottle is like if you get to it before I do.
Excited about this as touch on is a great product. On the point about contact washing using touch less, have you tried auto wash in the foam lance? It works pretty well for me with about 10-15ml of shampoo in the lance
I use touch on as a drying aid, plus as a form of protection in a maintenance wash. Personally I think touch-on is a better product than Gyeon wetcoat and much better value for money! Gyeon probably lasts a little longer.
This really is a speed option for getting some protection applied when you've no time. I'm sure Pete already told you this, but the dilution doesn't matter, it's the speed of impact onto the surface that 'activates' this product, so i do go to the trouble of shoving it in the lance for application. Even on a zero protected vehicle, i get some pretty decent and long lasting beading. I apply it to the entire vehicle, tyres etc, glass as well, so long as you pressure wash it all afterwards, it's all good.
I use gtechniq ceramic wash and have done for ages, but recently I've put a coat of fusso coat on the car, but wondering if the products will clash chemically or if the ceramic wash ontop will give me less Beeding 🤔
I love BH products, but I agree that I prefer polar seal - it is very good. When I tried the sachet I wasn't blown away. Not clear in this video if this is a new version of touch on
I used the AutoGlym Polar Seal before I started using the sachets of TOUCH-ON and I cannot make my mind up which one I prefer. Might need to do a back to back wash with them and compare the differences in hydrophobicity and durability 👍🏻
i think i read that with AG Polar seal, you use 40ml per application and it should not be used on Glass/windscreen... this BH product can apparently be used everywhere glass/wheels,... so its easier to apply then... and you can use less product, 30 ml is sufficient. i use Touch-less as part of my wash routine, so i think it makes sense to use a product that will complement each other.
@@karlburrows4226 glass is ok, but not windscreen. I might need to give it another go. Last time I used it I felt like it didn't last as long as polar seal
I am a Bilt Hamber fanatic and always recommend their products to others. Not so for Touch on though. I just can't see it's value personally. If I have the car clean enough with just a pre wash, I'd use something like Gyeon Wet Coat as a spray and rinse product for the same, if not better end result. If I've got to do a contact wash, then the same applies, as the spray and rinse of a product after using a stronger shampoo won't really add much time to the whole process. Unless there's something that I've missed?
Personally all i use now is Carbon Collective - Hybrid SIO2 Ceramic Shampoo. Its 20 quid a bottle but it does seem to go a long way. Its cleaning power is a little weak so i find myself covering each panel 4 or 5 wipes. But its beading and "self cleaning" is very good in my opinion. I do 500 to 800 miles per week, every week. And i wash every 2 weeks, at which point its not really dirty. I could almost get away with just Jetwash rinsing the car down.
@ForensicDetailing Fantastic video Jon; where can I get those stainless steel shelves you have holding all the product? They would be perfect for my garage workshop!
Jon often uses Surfex to clean the wheels and Korrosol to decontaminate them and remove fallout. It’s a great way to save money and get great results along the way.
Thanks lads. I often compare stuff and go back to bh. I used the magic wheel cleaner and thought it was brilliant vs p@s brake buster. I'll start back with comparison vs BH
I've tried a few snowfoams in my time, but I'm always left disappointed by their cleaning power, so I'm now using jennychem maxifoam. I must say wow! A snowfoam that cleans!!! Probably cuz it's a tfr snowfoam? Amazing stuff, tho.......can you review on here, jon? Have you used it? Would you use it?
Jon, thoughts on still using QD 1:20 as drying aid AFTER using touch on? Likely to interfere? Apply extra little bit of protection and pop? Or just pointless because they do a similar job?
yer i dont think you need to after touch on like the paint dryies so easily and does not need glossing. but perhaps you might like to do it. not saying you cant but perhaps overkill mate.
I have, perhaps a stupid question, and this maybe not the place to ask, but I am looking for advice please. I am in my late 60’s and want to start looking after our cars without taking them to the dreaded car wash. My car hasn’t been deep cleaned in a long time and would like to get it to a stage where I can do a weekly wash and get good results. My questions are, what order should I do things in! Do I do the interior first, or the engine bay, should I pre wash, wash, clay bar, machine polish etc. in what order. I am sorry this is a bit long, but if you can point me in the right direction, with information or videos that would be great. That’s if it ever stops raining!!!! Many thanks. Brilliant videos.
Hello from Florida, USA! I'm a Home Detailer like you aspire to be. I watched UA-cam videos from Forensic Detailing, The Detail Hunters is excellent, as is Auto Care HQ. I would tackle the exterior first and add protection to your paint, since that's what can get in very poor condition first. Then I'd work on the interior. But first get that paint protected! There are now quite a few spray and rinse auto protectants that make that job much easier than it used to be. I don't know where you live, but if You're in the U.K., Bilt Hamber and Garage Therapy seem to be two very popular brands. Good Luck!
Just one question -do you know how these Bilt Hamber products interact with ceramic coated cars? Would the Touch less or touch on interact in a negative way with Crystal Serum Ultra for example?
i think its will just form a layer of protection on top of a coating. historically if you top a coating with a wax you loose the benefits of the coating (self cleaning). But some of the more modern toppers now have self cleaning (touch-on wet coat etc).... very hard to test self cleaning though to know.
Thanks for the reply. I have Exo on top of my coating and do you think the Touch less would have any effect on that, just because it’s a different type of pre wash technology.
i think you would compare with bath+ more than wet coat perahaps mate. truth is without side by siding them and just comparing price and using them etc you can only guess...
No PIR is likely due to you putting 30ml product into the foam lance, and the entire thing gets sprayed on anyway. So if you diluted 300ml or 500ml water, 30ml of product still coats the car assuming you empty the foam bottle. I have a dedicated lance for it and use 1 sachet per car when I do a valet. This litre bottle should bring the cost per wash down if I buy a 30ml measuring cup for it!
Have you tried the product from the 1l bottle? I've read the "how to use" section on BH website and it seems like it's kinda diluted now. They say you should put 30-60ml into 10l of water for bucket application and 30ml per 1l in a trigger sprayer. With sachets I put one in a used 500ml bottle and fill it with water and then add like 70ml of that mix to another 500ml trigger spray bottle and further dilute it for actual usage, so I only use 4 ml for a 500ml bottle and 8 for 1 litre and it works fine. Sorry for my english
I’m just about to take delivery of a new car. Declined dealer paint protection package. Would love a video where you lay out each stage in protecting/ detailing your car. Best product for each stage (can you mix and match brands?) and advice for ongoing maintenance regime. Also, do you rate Protect X/Lifeshine products? Many thanks in advance.
What i don't understand about these low foaming ceramic shampoos is, can you not just add a load of normal shampoo to the bucket and get some foaminess?
I wonder why there isn't a single review on the larger channels of Supermafrasol ? It exists for years, it is widely used by carwashes, it is dirt cheap and it actually cleans well.
@@ForensicDetailing Ive been using touch less, autowash. Works well, but have to be so careful, no scracthes. I got myself dr beasleys matt paint coating. Just waiting for weather to improve. If you get an opporunity, could you do some videos on matt finishes, Thanks
Interesting. Tried to buy 5 litres of Touch Less a couple of weeks ago but they were out of stock. I msgd them and was told that they “hoped” to have it back in stock soon. I grabbed the Auto Foam instead. I’m not bothered tbh as they’re so close imo but I wondered if there’s something in the pipeline wrt Touch Less?
you can do mate yes but it will alter surface characteristics and sit on your coating. some brands may say this is undesirable to their specific coating potentially. reality is it would maintain beadage and perhaps self cleaning.
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks, I’m currently using the AG Polar range for the Snowfoam, Wash then Seal. Don’t really fancy going back to the old days of waxing. For me there’s plenty of products that give it the finishing touch just with spray on and blast off since rally the old Turtle Wax in the blue spray which was popular a few years back. I have found too that using these products you aren’t getting the water spots as we have poor water quality. Will brands be now all using ceramic in their products to get folk hooked ?
The 30ml sachets are clear and not cloudy. I absolutely like this product, I've been using the sachets for years now. I've stopped using Gyeon wetcoat in favour of this product because I had dark patches as wetcoat clung onto my silver car and left marks that needed to be buffed off with some QD. Touch-on doesn't leave dark marks and dissolves far better in my situation. I actually really enjoy using this product as it leaves a superb glossy glow just like its be ceramic coated which Gyeon wetcoat didn't do. The beadage is very good too on parr with wetcoat. I'm unsure about the strength between the bottled version and the original sachets. I tend to use one sachet in my MJJC with a litre of water and it's perfect. I've been using the old Gyeon wet coat bottle to put a sachet of this product inside and spray round specific areas and let it dwell a little for maximum impact. My only gripe with. Bilt Hamber is their Auto wash, the cleaning power isn't anywhere near as good as Carpro Reset shampoo. That stuff is fantastic at cleaning, second to none IMO. I wish, Bilt Hamber if you're reading this is to improve your Auto wash, it leaves a crystally matt residue/ finish that's not great even after throughly rinsing. The cleaning power or product performance, it doesn't match the rest of Bilt Hambers line up like for like. It doesn't deep clean to get that pure clean like CP reset shampoo does. It just needs more bite to get it to clean better you have to use Surfex HD to get it how I would want it making you use more products and increase cost. Please come up with something that'll dethrone Carpro Reset shampoo and I'll buy that improved version instead. Touch-on in the bottle is next on my list as I've only got two sachets left. Although I would appreciate someone letting me know what the difference is like between the bottled version and the sachets please 🙏
In your previous video about touch-on, you say you wouldn't use it more than once a month so as not to build up too much product. Is this the case with the new touch-on in the bottle? I'm sorry to hear about your Porsche.
I have no doubt Bilt hamber products are great but when you order directly from them £60 of product and they send you the wrong items by messing up the labelling to say it’s disappointing maybe a understatement then they promise to sort it but don’t I wonder if it’s worth even trying to get it in the first place just my 2 pence
We're very sorry to hear this - sincere apologies, we aim to resolve any issues on the day we find them. Please let me know the order number and date please.
i never see these youtubers talking about k2... i mean yeah they are a cheap brand... but i bet some products will surprise them and specially the price...
if the brand has not been picked up by any of the main 5-7 online detailing resellers in the UK then it prolly it not offering much or not ready for the wider market yet. theres about 500 detailing brands in the UK alone. A lot are similiar shall we say.
@@ForensicDetailing it is actually more offered in europe than the UK brands, but is considered a cheap white brand... So almost no reviews online... But they are underrated... Their price per quantity/quality is good...
I’ve used the BH products for over a decade now and I’m now lost to what all the range is and what it all does. Surfex, Korrosol and Autowheels is fine. The rest I’m like ?
any chance you can do a easy dilution ratio for touch-less, i.e 100mil to 500mil instead of there hard to understand scientific dilution ratio mumble lol
Can't really give a basic ratio because all snowfoam lances will have differing levels of water flow so everybodys ratios would be different. Look up how to figure out PIR and once you have done the test you're good for as long as you keep that lance
To make it easy for The average pressure washer foam lance 2% pir is about 200ml per liter For pump sprayer 2% pir is 20ml per liter, but touchless is known to get good results with less than half that,
Some calculate Panel impact ratio as the total volume ml x pir% = product By first filling lance with water to 1 litre then empty into bucket then weighting bucket of water (minus bucket) eg 10kg is 10 liters or 10000ml x 0.02 (for 2% pir ) = 200ml
If you can't work out pir buy some random foam that smells good and is thick at 1 to 10. But if you understand why pir is Important you then realise it's not a bilt Hamber thing. It's the only way to formulate effective products and get users to operate at those ratios. Most can understand this and yes some can't. That's life.
no idea mate, most people that say that tend to say it because autofoam does not foam well and they want a thick foamy product. However these products are about cleaning power and like that remit/facet of the product is not up for debait.
When will the industry stop with the BS. The best product that could come to market would stop using this kind of blurb. Ceramic… don’t get me started 😂
what kind of blurb? I dont think the product has any ceramic reference at all. We read out the product information from the bottle and its a low key functional description?
These products are also good for us older ones (I'm 70), so we can still feel good driving a "shiny " car😊
I love Bilt Hamber products, excellent results and good value👍 thanks Jon.
I still have some Bathe+ left, but already bought 10 sachets of Touch-On. Very good to hear they have a big bottle too now.
Great video. Excellent information on a great product. Thank you. 👍🏻
Love the comment about double dipping touchless, what a great idea never thought of that for a turbo wash. I tend to use half a lance per application so could prewash with it, then reapply and contact wash it with just a bucket of water for a super speedy wash!
You hammer BH products Jon. And rightly so, thanks for introducing us to the brand. Products effectlive as hell
Hi John,
Thank you for the update around Touch On, appreciated.
I use this in the winter months to protect my car and the wife’s and in summer months I switch to good old fashioned wax.
You’ve converted me to bilt hamber . Used Meguiars in the past but the results with there products are outstanding. My favorite is auto wheels but they are all excellent!!
Great video Jon! 👍
I’ve used BH since their inception - grade A products. Well done to Peter and his team. 😎👍🏼
Great review again Jon, use the touch on sachets on the wifes car which is about 7 years old so it's more about speed. Just put 30ml sachet in a snow foam bottle, fill with water and apply on the whole car, then rinse with pressure washer. Produces fantastic beading and sheeting. For those doing the maths buying 1L in the 30ml sachets at £1.19 each would be about £39. The 1L bottle is £19.. will be buying the bottle next time.
These kind of products are very handy in the winter 👌
Bilt Hamber products are always top draw. Thanks for sharing, look a great product 💪
I use touch-on with the foam lance to coat the caravan after washing. Quick, easy to apply and adds a layer of protection to the panels and plastic windows.
Super content as per usual 👍
I sometimes use a double application of touchless before a contact wash if the car is particularly dirty. Without doubt it helps
Informative, entertaining and comedy gold!
I first tried this when it came out about 3 years back and didn't think that much of it TBH. Since then I've relied on Bathe or Bathe+ depending on which car is being washed, 2 out of the 3 have a Gyeon Ceramic Coating applied. Bathe+ does a great job on the car that is yet to be coated. Unreal beading from Bathe+
This product somewhat reminds me of Turtle Wax Hot Wax non foaming shampoo of the 90s. That was a very effective cleaning shampoo that gave a pretty decent waxed finish.
Why I think BH are brilliant products? I used to love spending hour's cleaning the car, and lets be honest it is a physical and tiring process. I had an issue with my heart and need products which do most of the hard work( as i cant anymore) with excellent results, meaning less physical effort from me and BH are the only consistent products I use . Love them.
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Looks decent. I’ve been using Chem Guys Mr Pink lately for foam and clears very well then washing with it after, then Wet Coat. Shiniest results I’ve had for sure.
BILT Clamber 😂 17:42
The panic in Johns voice when he realises American children might be listening DONT DRINK IT 😂
Just ordered another 10 sachets😂 Hadn't realised this was available, next time will definitely go for the bottle
Literally have koch chemie pw in my basket, very tempted by touch on but didn't want the sachets wanted a bottle and voila, they released a bottle version 😂 will get my order In
I'd definitely want to apply this via a foam cannon personally, it would out class anything in terms of easy of use/coverage at that point. I just wonder how well it holds up vs gyeon wet coat which still seems to be the gold standard of spray and rinse sealants.
It's so expansive here in Australia. Would love to stock their products.
I used Touch On on both my parents cars last summer. Two different people asked my Dad if he had a new car and me if my Mum had a new car! I haven’t tried it on my ceramic coated car, but on their Soft 99 Fusso Coat waxed cars, it looked amazing in my opinion.
I have to admit I didn't think this was a shampoo and haven't used it as a shampoo... I use it as a rinse aid only to help drying and adding water beading. Great product but I may now add it to the bucket instead of a spray on after washing the car. Nice that they have a bottle now 😎😎
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Again! Gotta love BH 😎
After just finishing AutoGlym Polar snow foam and polar wash I decided to switch brands to try Bilt Hamber touch less (I bought the 5 litre for £30) after watching your review.
I was going to use it the way you said to use it. Once for as it says on the bottle ‘touch less’ and then reapply for a contact wash. But I was going to use the AutoGlym Polar Seal (as I still have some left)
But would it be best to use the touch less and touch on without having to use the polar seal?
I’m writing this before the end of the video,so apologies if you mention it.
Balls I just bought the “Sachets” for the father in-law. Handy to ration him as he likes to ignore product ratios lol. I’ll be ordering a bottle as very useful reducing costs from £1 a wash to less than 50 pence.
Thanks John.
Fear not, the sachets are absolutely excellent. Highly recommended, I've been using them for years and cannot rate them highly enough. For the reason that it leaves such a nice warm glossy glow afterwards. It really give you that wow factor with such little effort 👌 let me know what the 1ltr bottle is like if you get to it before I do.
Excited about this as touch on is a great product. On the point about contact washing using touch less, have you tried auto wash in the foam lance? It works pretty well for me with about 10-15ml of shampoo in the lance
yes but I prefer to just save back a bit of touchless in the lance. I find touchless rinses off the car better as well.
@@ForensicDetailing I may try touch less for the contact wash - it definitely does rinse off nice and easy
I use touch on as a drying aid, plus as a form of protection in a maintenance wash. Personally I think touch-on is a better product than Gyeon wetcoat and much better value for money! Gyeon probably lasts a little longer.
I use touch-less and love it but is touch-on better than Gyeon wet coat ?
Bilt hamber for the winter months and gyeon for the nice weather👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I'm only about half way through my auto foam so I'm gonna give it a bash with touch-less and see how it goes! Still got some sachets somewhere
This really is a speed option for getting some protection applied when you've no time.
I'm sure Pete already told you this, but the dilution doesn't matter, it's the speed of impact onto the surface that 'activates' this product, so i do go to the trouble of shoving it in the lance for application.
Even on a zero protected vehicle, i get some pretty decent and long lasting beading.
I apply it to the entire vehicle, tyres etc, glass as well, so long as you pressure wash it all afterwards, it's all good.
Sat-Chet, where posh, Jon !
Dont leave us hanging Jon..... what's the scratch and shine story 😂
I use gtechniq ceramic wash and have done for ages, but recently I've put a coat of fusso coat on the car, but wondering if the products will clash chemically or if the ceramic wash ontop will give me less Beeding 🤔
As much I love BH products I think you can’t beat AG Polar Seal/Coat it for spray on rinse off type products for the price and easy of use.
I love BH products, but I agree that I prefer polar seal - it is very good. When I tried the sachet I wasn't blown away. Not clear in this video if this is a new version of touch on
Jon won’t be happy to read this lol
I used the AutoGlym Polar Seal before I started using the sachets of TOUCH-ON and I cannot make my mind up which one I prefer.
Might need to do a back to back wash with them and compare the differences in hydrophobicity and durability 👍🏻
i think i read that with AG Polar seal, you use 40ml per application and it should not be used on Glass/windscreen... this BH product can apparently be used everywhere glass/wheels,... so its easier to apply then... and you can use less product, 30 ml is sufficient. i use Touch-less as part of my wash routine, so i think it makes sense to use a product that will complement each other.
@@karlburrows4226 glass is ok, but not windscreen. I might need to give it another go. Last time I used it I felt like it didn't last as long as polar seal
I am a Bilt Hamber fanatic and always recommend their products to others. Not so for Touch on though. I just can't see it's value personally.
If I have the car clean enough with just a pre wash, I'd use something like Gyeon Wet Coat as a spray and rinse product for the same, if not better end result. If I've got to do a contact wash, then the same applies, as the spray and rinse of a product after using a stronger shampoo won't really add much time to the whole process.
Unless there's something that I've missed?
Personally all i use now is Carbon Collective - Hybrid SIO2 Ceramic Shampoo. Its 20 quid a bottle but it does seem to go a long way. Its cleaning power is a little weak so i find myself covering each panel 4 or 5 wipes. But its beading and "self cleaning" is very good in my opinion. I do 500 to 800 miles per week, every week. And i wash every 2 weeks, at which point its not really dirty. I could almost get away with just Jetwash rinsing the car down.
Get on the jennychem maxi mosse far superior and I ain’t endorsed by them. Good caustic cleaner is the answer
@ForensicDetailing Fantastic video Jon; where can I get those stainless steel shelves you have holding all the product? They would be perfect for my garage workshop!
display pro mate
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks Jon!
New video on Sunday, lovely!
To me, chemistry is just words, Jon! 🤷🏻♂️
Hi mate. Like you I love the BH range. Going off what you said about the back bone of your arsenal. Do you still use the BH wheel cleaner ?
i use surfex hd most times to clean the wheels.
Jon often uses Surfex to clean the wheels and Korrosol to decontaminate them and remove fallout. It’s a great way to save money and get great results along the way.
Thanks lads. I often compare stuff and go back to bh. I used the magic wheel cleaner and thought it was brilliant vs p@s brake buster.
I'll start back with comparison vs BH
More environmentally friendly too and companies are being made to think about this more and more.
James
I've tried a few snowfoams in my time, but I'm always left disappointed by their cleaning power, so I'm now using jennychem maxifoam. I must say wow! A snowfoam that cleans!!! Probably cuz it's a tfr snowfoam? Amazing stuff, tho.......can you review on here, jon? Have you used it? Would you use it?
Have you never tried Touch-Less? It's incredible how much dirt it shifts.
Jon, thoughts on still using QD 1:20 as drying aid AFTER using touch on? Likely to interfere? Apply extra little bit of protection and pop? Or just pointless because they do a similar job?
yer i dont think you need to after touch on like the paint dryies so easily and does not need glossing. but perhaps you might like to do it. not saying you cant but perhaps overkill mate.
@@ForensicDetailing thanks Jon 👍 you’re a legend mate.
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I have, perhaps a stupid question, and this maybe not the place to ask, but I am looking for advice please. I am in my late 60’s and want to start looking after our cars without taking them to the dreaded car wash. My car hasn’t been deep cleaned in a long time and would like to get it to a stage where I can do a weekly wash and get good results. My questions are, what order should I do things in! Do I do the interior first, or the engine bay, should I pre wash, wash, clay bar, machine polish etc. in what order. I am sorry this is a bit long, but if you can point me in the right direction, with information or videos that would be great. That’s if it ever stops raining!!!! Many thanks. Brilliant videos.
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Hello from Florida, USA! I'm a Home Detailer like you aspire to be. I watched UA-cam videos from Forensic Detailing, The Detail Hunters is excellent, as is Auto Care HQ.
I would tackle the exterior first and add protection to your paint, since that's what can get in very poor condition first. Then I'd work on the interior. But first get that paint protected! There are now quite a few spray and rinse auto protectants that make that job much easier than it used to be. I don't know where you live, but if You're in the U.K., Bilt Hamber and Garage Therapy seem to be two very popular brands. Good Luck!
Many thanks both of you. I will follow your recommendations. Thank you.
Just one question -do you know how these Bilt Hamber products interact with ceramic coated cars? Would the Touch less or touch on interact in a negative way with Crystal Serum Ultra for example?
i think its will just form a layer of protection on top of a coating. historically if you top a coating with a wax you loose the benefits of the coating (self cleaning). But some of the more modern toppers now have self cleaning (touch-on wet coat etc).... very hard to test self cleaning though to know.
Thanks for the reply. I have Exo on top of my coating and do you think the Touch less would have any effect on that, just because it’s a different type of pre wash technology.
Jon, do you think they've made it clear instead of milky colour it will leave less runs on glass?
Not sure m8
I see bilt hamber. I click like.
I can’t help but laugh every time you say “touch on”. I know I’m immature.😂😂
Any word on how long this lasts once diluted in a spray bottle? Do you have to use it all within a certain time or anything like that? Cheers.
I'm not sure but most of these products are good for a few years. Bit like detail sprays are..
@@ForensicDetailing smashing mate 👍🏻
How would you rate this over the geon wet coat? Or would you use them both?
i think you would compare with bath+ more than wet coat perahaps mate. truth is without side by siding them and just comparing price and using them etc you can only guess...
So, is the bottle version a different/better version to the pouches?
not sure but the sachets were a bit more milky if I remember correctly.
No PIR is likely due to you putting 30ml product into the foam lance, and the entire thing gets sprayed on anyway. So if you diluted 300ml or 500ml water, 30ml of product still coats the car assuming you empty the foam bottle. I have a dedicated lance for it and use 1 sachet per car when I do a valet. This litre bottle should bring the cost per wash down if I buy a 30ml measuring cup for it!
Have you tried the product from the 1l bottle? I've read the "how to use" section on BH website and it seems like it's kinda diluted now. They say you should put 30-60ml into 10l of water for bucket application and 30ml per 1l in a trigger sprayer. With sachets I put one in a used 500ml bottle and fill it with water and then add like 70ml of that mix to another 500ml trigger spray bottle and further dilute it for actual usage, so I only use 4 ml for a 500ml bottle and 8 for 1 litre and it works fine. Sorry for my english
Is this similar to Autosmart aqua seal pro?? I’ve been using that and it looks/ works great but once washed again it doesn’t seem to work aswell
not sure mate
I just enjoy watching the water bead off when parked or driving after using ceramic snow foam, 😂
I’m just about to take delivery of a new car. Declined dealer paint protection package. Would love a video where you lay out each stage in protecting/ detailing your car. Best product for each stage (can you mix and match brands?) and advice for ongoing maintenance regime. Also, do you rate Protect X/Lifeshine products? Many thanks in advance.
See detailing fundamentals playlist on homepage m8
@@ForensicDetailing thank you so much.
Timely video, I need to order as just running out, touch on not on the site as yet
should appear there today I think mate soonish i think
Thanks John 👊
Do you have an affiliate link to BH so you get some knock back for excellent recommendations?
@@ForensicDetailing ordered, I mentioned you in the notes as a thank you 💛
What i don't understand about these low foaming ceramic shampoos is, can you not just add a load of normal shampoo to the bucket and get some foaminess?
🤯🤯🤯 going to have to try that
We discussed this. Cationic surfactant will interfere with cationic siloxane
So it is better value for money than Infinity Wax Synergy Boost?
i cant compare value with the other 500 ceramic shampoos on the market my good friend but the price in is there for you to extrapolate
I wonder why there isn't a single review on the larger channels of Supermafrasol ? It exists for years, it is widely used by carwashes, it is dirt cheap and it actually cleans well.
never heard of it. But sounds like truckwash mate.
@@ForensicDetailing Do you not have MAFRA in UK ? It's Italian brand, I was under the impression that they sell worldwide
I think the sachets were a huge packaging waste, the plastic containers are easier to recycle.
Missed gtechniq ceramic wash from the test
ive not done the test yet mate! :)
Pity the Australian retailers charge 3 times the price after the pound to AUD conversion , more expensive than gold :(
Feed it back m8. Give examples of market average with various premium brands.
Could you compare to polar seal as its a similar price
can do mate
hmmm is this the ultimate detail spray ? interesting
John, is it safe on matte finishes?
Id ask bh. It might add gloss. On Matt I tend to just wash and use a matt finish qd or coating.
@@ForensicDetailing Ive been using touch less, autowash. Works well, but have to be so careful, no scracthes. I got myself dr beasleys matt paint coating. Just waiting for weather to improve. If you get an opporunity, could you do some videos on matt finishes, Thanks
5L of Autosmart AquaSeal Pro from a deal is £45 I use the son my bikes and cars which I find good value for money with a decent bead & shine
God damn it I literally just bought a bottle of wet coat 😂
Sounds like a marital aid you might drink!,keep "up" the vids really enjoy them
Interesting.
Tried to buy 5 litres of Touch Less a couple of weeks ago but they were out of stock.
I msgd them and was told that they “hoped” to have it back in stock soon.
I grabbed the Auto Foam instead.
I’m not bothered tbh as they’re so close imo but I wondered if there’s something in the pipeline wrt Touch Less?
Transition to new formula.
So isn’t this a shampoo for using on ceramic coated cars ?
you can do mate yes but it will alter surface characteristics and sit on your coating. some brands may say this is undesirable to their specific coating potentially. reality is it would maintain beadage and perhaps self cleaning.
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks, I’m currently using the AG Polar range for the Snowfoam, Wash then Seal. Don’t really fancy going back to the old days of waxing. For me there’s plenty of products that give it the finishing touch just with spray on and blast off since rally the old Turtle Wax in the blue spray which was popular a few years back. I have found too that using these products you aren’t getting the water spots as we have poor water quality.
Will brands be now all using ceramic in their products to get folk hooked ?
The 30ml sachets are clear and not cloudy. I absolutely like this product, I've been using the sachets for years now. I've stopped using Gyeon wetcoat in favour of this product because I had dark patches as wetcoat clung onto my silver car and left marks that needed to be buffed off with some QD.
Touch-on doesn't leave dark marks and dissolves far better in my situation. I actually really enjoy using this product as it leaves a superb glossy glow just like its be ceramic coated which Gyeon wetcoat didn't do.
The beadage is very good too on parr with wetcoat. I'm unsure about the strength between the bottled version and the original sachets. I tend to use one sachet in my MJJC with a litre of water and it's perfect. I've been using the old Gyeon wet coat bottle to put a sachet of this product inside and spray round specific areas and let it dwell a little for maximum impact.
My only gripe with. Bilt Hamber is their Auto wash, the cleaning power isn't anywhere near as good as Carpro Reset shampoo. That stuff is fantastic at cleaning, second to none IMO. I wish, Bilt Hamber if you're reading this is to improve your Auto wash, it leaves a crystally matt residue/ finish that's not great even after throughly rinsing.
The cleaning power or product performance, it doesn't match the rest of Bilt Hambers line up like for like. It doesn't deep clean to get that pure clean like CP reset shampoo does. It just needs more bite to get it to clean better you have to use Surfex HD to get it how I would want it making you use more products and increase cost. Please come up with something that'll dethrone Carpro Reset shampoo and I'll buy that improved version instead.
Touch-on in the bottle is next on my list as I've only got two sachets left. Although I would appreciate someone letting me know what the difference is like between the bottled version and the sachets please 🙏
I tried the Touch On, wasn't overly impressed. I rate Bilt Hamber very highly but found the Touch On a bit of a disappointment.
In your previous video about touch-on, you say you wouldn't use it more than once a month so as not to build up too much product. Is this the case with the new touch-on in the bottle? I'm sorry to hear about your Porsche.
Yes m8 reapply when the zhizzle has fizzled
I have no doubt Bilt hamber products are great but when you order directly from them £60 of product and they send you the wrong items by messing up the labelling to say it’s disappointing maybe a understatement then they promise to sort it but don’t I wonder if it’s worth even trying to get it in the first place just my 2 pence
We're very sorry to hear this - sincere apologies, we aim to resolve any issues on the day we find them. Please let me know the order number and date please.
i never see these youtubers talking about k2... i mean yeah they are a cheap brand... but i bet some products will surprise them and specially the price...
if the brand has not been picked up by any of the main 5-7 online detailing resellers in the UK then it prolly it not offering much or not ready for the wider market yet. theres about 500 detailing brands in the UK alone. A lot are similiar shall we say.
@@ForensicDetailing it is actually more offered in europe than the UK brands, but is considered a cheap white brand... So almost no reviews online... But they are underrated... Their price per quantity/quality is good...
Lagers??? Really??
I’ve used the BH products for over a decade now and I’m now lost to what all the range is and what it all does. Surfex, Korrosol and Autowheels is fine. The rest I’m like ?
I remember a while ago you were in America with Turtle Wax products, yet you hardly ever recommend their products.....how come??
Dont think the website has been updated yet
What do you think is a suitable pir for it through a lance?
Lance about .5 to 1%? About 1 to 10 non pir
Life is too short to bother with PIR 😂
:)
What’s the PH number
any chance you can do a easy dilution ratio for touch-less, i.e 100mil to 500mil instead of there hard to understand scientific dilution ratio mumble lol
Can't really give a basic ratio because all snowfoam lances will have differing levels of water flow so everybodys ratios would be different. Look up how to figure out PIR and once you have done the test you're good for as long as you keep that lance
To make it easy for The average pressure washer foam lance 2% pir is about 200ml per liter
For pump sprayer 2% pir is 20ml per liter, but touchless is known to get good results with less than half that,
Yer 1 to 4 for 2%. And 1 to 7 for 1%. Guesstimate but like other say do the pir calc. Takes 30 seconds.
Some calculate Panel impact ratio as the total volume ml x pir% = product
By first filling lance with water to 1 litre then empty into bucket then weighting bucket of water (minus bucket) eg 10kg is 10 liters or 10000ml x 0.02 (for 2% pir ) = 200ml
Where are the metal shelves from please?
display pro m8
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks 👍
@@ForensicDetailing Are they the 12cm deep ones please?
I do not buy BH touch less as it’s too complicated to work out, so buy a competitor that makes mix ratio easy ❗️🤷🏻♂️
What you just said……All of us are more stupidier for having heard it. I award you no points and May God have mercy on your soul.
If you can't work out pir buy some random foam that smells good and is thick at 1 to 10. But if you understand why pir is Important you then realise it's not a bilt Hamber thing. It's the only way to formulate effective products and get users to operate at those ratios. Most can understand this and yes some can't. That's life.
You need to change your channel to Bilt Hamber.
I’m still annoyed with the bilt hamber snow foam in my garage it’s terrible. I’m not here to bash the range as surfex hd is good
no idea mate, most people that say that tend to say it because autofoam does not foam well and they want a thick foamy product. However these products are about cleaning power and like that remit/facet of the product is not up for debait.
When will the industry stop with the BS.
The best product that could come to market would stop using this kind of blurb.
Ceramic… don’t get me started 😂
what kind of blurb? I dont think the product has any ceramic reference at all. We read out the product information from the bottle and its a low key functional description?
Don’t buy anything else ! BH 100%