Talvisota - The Winter War - Sabaton History 006 [Official]
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- Опубліковано 13 бер 2019
- This war is modern version of David versus Goliath. The Sabaton song 'Talvisota' is about the Winter War that took place in late 1939 till the early spring of 1940 between Finland and the Soviet union. Against all odds, and an overwhelming amount of Red Army Soldiers, the Finnish army manage to hold off the Soviet advance for longer than anyone could have foreseen.
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This week marks 79 years since the Winter War ended. On 13 March 1940, the guns in Finland stopped shooting after over three months of heavy fighting. The Finns fought better and harder than anyone expected, of course with help from numerous factors. Make sure to check out Indy's World War Two channel, where he covers World War Two exactly 79 years after it went down, in realtime. It's very cool 🤘 -> ua-cam.com/users/worldwartwo
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Night Witches or Soldier Of 3 Armies next?
Awesome video! Love every minute of each episode and can't wait for the next song!
Probably the better help they got was from... Soviet Marshal Voroshilov. Had not been for his hötzendorffing there, the USSR could have won far more easily like on the offensives of 1940 designed by Shaposhnikov under Timoshenko. I mentioned on another videos, and it is important here: the army commanders AND the Chief of Staff asked for more time for preparations, recon, preliminary atrittion and those kind of things, but he refused (going against all doctrines), and it was a total failure due to the lack of those preparations. Had he listened to Shaposhnikov, and the Soviets would have taken all their preliminary objectives within a few days since the start of the offensive after having the Finns properly located, their positions pounded by heavy shelling and aerial bombardments, and then both infantry and mechanised units would have taken the position and finnished off them (never said better). The Soviets got what they wanted at first glance, but they suffered a lot in order to get it, and were humiliated.
Resist and Bite next? :D
@@unfinishedsentenc5308 i thought they did that
When you're chilling with you comrades and you hear the snow start speaking Finnish.
Motti! Perkele!
Perkele Saataana!
benis
Oh Neptune
The 225677th Fragment of the Man-Emperor of Mankind *Chilling*
"There are so many Russians, and our country is so small, where will we find a place to bury them all?" -Anonymous Finnish Soldier
@Necroglobule lmao XD
This story is likely from memoirs of a Soviet soldier who noted that 'We barely won enough land to bury our dead'
@@OikeudenTassu I read it was soviet general who said that after winter war ended.
another brutal one: in the 70's a Finnish officer and veteran, Adolf Ehnroot, was visiting the Great Britain. A British officer mistakenly thought that Finland had been occupied by the soviet union. He asked Ehnroot; "How many soviets troops are currently stationed in Finland?". The Finnish officer replied: "a few hundred thousand." When the British officer inquired where said troops are currently stationed at, the Finn replied "about 6-feet deep along the border."
@@wardeni4806 gods, could you fucking imagine the Customs nightmare that would have made of the families if the Soviet Union hadn't been the... well, tbh, _more_ blatant Propaganda cult that it was?
The thing that boggles my mind about the Winter War is this:
Carolus Rex invades Russia, gets destroyed in part because he is not prepared for the harsh winter.
Napoleon invades Russia, gets destroyed in part because he is not prepared for the harsh winter.
Nazi Germany invades Russia, gets destroyed in part because it is not prepared for the harsh winter.
Soviet Russia invades Finland... gets destroyed in part because it is not prepared for the even harsher winter.
Haha way to go comrade!
And what have we learned from all this. Don't invade russia when winter is on the horizon
@Complex CR hah! Good one.
Also in the history tsar Russia loses russo-japanese war, then ussr winter war fiasco, and now
Moral of history: Never invade Russia... But if Russia invades you first, you are probably fine.
My grandfather fought in the winter war. He didn't want to talk about the horrors he had seen, but did one time when my mom asked. They had dug themselves into the ground and let the russian sodiers march right over them. From there they created an ambush and killed them. He saw soldiers who had frozen to death, and even signs of cannibalism amongst the dead russian troops who lacked food. He was only 16 years old. His father didn't fight the war but stayed home and had a russian prisoner of war helping him at the farm. When the war was over the russian prisoner and my great grandfather had become friends and he didn't want to leave in fear of being executed for surrendering, but he was forced to. My grandfather died some 20 years ago now, but up to that day he would still wake up from nightmares haunting him from the events that took place well over 60 years back. War sure is hell.
Wow, that is an impressive story. I'm glad that, even as a historian, I can't imagine how actually taking part in such a war must have been..
@@SabatonHistory Me neither, it seemed absolutely horrific. Even though it was war, and he was defending the country from an invasion, my grandfather felt genuilely sorry for the Russians because many of them didn't even have winter clothes. It was a suicide mission.
Thank you for sharing your grandfathers story. I think he meant they dug/buried themselves into the deep snow banks of that cold, cold winter 39/40, as you can't dig the actual soil during winter (because it's frozen).
@@AnnaMarianne Possible, or they used natural ditches and such. I don't have the details. But no, frozen ground could not have been dug by them (by shovels anyhow) Correct. He said "they walked over" but speaking from an old memory he might have meant right past. If they hid in a snow filled ditch at the road side right next to a marching army the sound might have felt like they "walked over them". Your guess here is as good as mine.
@@flawmore A snowed-in ditch on the roadside sounds like a very plausible option.
What a testament to brilliant Finnish strategy utilizing their terrain and their enemy who underestimated them. It really is reassuring to know a small but dedicated country could hold off such a massive military power such as Russia. I love the will of the Finn's!
Especially when they had such an excellent help from Stalin who decimated soviet army right before, executing most experienced officers. Still, Finns fought brilliantly, no denying for that.
Well the finish had the best sniper in history, a soldier that fought in three different armies and only 40 tanks
Russia had...more of everything but less brain
@@mistersinister4020 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_snipers wait what? where is the best sniper in history?
That's what happened with every small country when a world power tried to invade, USA in Nam, axis in Greece, and surprisingly the US revolution
It eather took a long time to conquer the small country with a lot of casualties. Sometimes it leads to defeats
I like how this episode is falling in with the Word War Two coverage
Well Sabaton has a shitload of WW2 based songs.
@@murphyslaw_1776 I think he means "falling in line with the coverage of the World War Two channel hosted by Indy".
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The Finnish educational system is routinely ranked as one of the world's finest, and heavy metal is a mainstream, as opposed to a niche, genre there. Coincidence? I think not.
I study physics. Most of the other pysic students are also metal heads. Coincidence?
@@individuum4494 I'm a structural engineer and all my colleagues love metal coincidence? I don't think so
Korpiklaani!
I'm mildly interested of all those "Finnish heavy metal bands" doing ok abroad and beyond, but way more grateful for getting chance to enjoy Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Slayer etc at their prime...
@@individuum4494 studies suggest Metal music mainly draws people who are more emotional, more intelligent, more inverted and more melancholic than average. The fact that the music is complicated draws in the intelligent ones, the heaviness draws in the emotional ones and the generally melancholic sound world draws in the melancholic ones.
Who would win?
The Largest Army in the World with 6.5k tanks and 3.8k planes
Or
Some farmers with skis and weird liquor
Well the finns still lost. It's just a meme that the soviets lost, they just were terrible winners.
Justice sake of reduce the number of tanks in 3 times, and plans in 1.5 times
"Some farmers" - An interesting comparison for 3000 thousand soldiers led by a former general of the Russian imperial army.
The ratio of 1.5-2.5 to 1, not the largest, which saw military history.
@UCMk6yykRwUzWfwC-3MlcYOg even if you reduced these number by a lot you must realize Finland had about 100 planes. MOST OF THEM OUTDATED and 30 tanks, what most of them didnt even have a CANNON yet... 300 thousand farmers, is quite well when you consider they brought 150k-350k soviets 6 feet under, not counting wounded. AND soviets had 1 million soldiers to take part in Winter war, not at same time but hey you need to replenish those soldiers you have lost with stupid strategy.
@@moldveien1515 Finns never "lost". A treaty was signed.
@@KoteDarasuum And another 350 aircraft transferred to Finland from other countries,apart from other weapons.
~ 420 thousand at the beginning of the war and brought to ~ 750 thousand by the end.
IMHO not such a radical ratio. Germany had about the same advantage at the beginning of the invasion of the Soviet Union.
Well, 350k loss is of course very ridiculous data. No one seriously considers this. Losses of Soviet soldiers are usually considered about 100k-200k. And another ~ 250 thousand wounded.
Recently at school we had a project where we had to pick a song and tell what it is about, I did the lost battalion. Keep up the great work.
Cool! Did you bring some new fans aboard?
Sabaton History I sure hope so.
Jesse Lopez I had to do something similar for rhetoric, I chose a lifetime of war.
I did a report on sabaton for a music class in college
I had to make a presentation about weapons used in world war one. I translated some lines of different Sabaton songs into german and wrote one of them on every page of the presentation
And I know a girl who made her presentation for the end of highscool abaut the people mentioned on the album "Heroes"
Anyone: *Invades Northern Country*
Winter: "Ay imma just make this the coldest one on record, mm k?"
Global climate change is a bitch, eh.
Shows you how much you can get done with enough tenacity and knowledge of the home turf. Always love hearing about the Winter War.
Exactly. Look what happened for the US fighting in Vietnam.
The US loss in Vietnam was more about the South not willing to truly fight and political pressure to not go all out. We could have levelled the North from the air but we were never given the chance. In the end the war didn't really matter to America, after all we are now cooperating with Vietnam to hold off China.
@@ScottRKrol Yes, but you also gotta remember that we have never fought in that kind of terrain before, we weren't ready for that kind of playing field.
@@ScottRKrol Us dropped more bombs in Vietnam than at whole ww2, and thats not enough?
@@attesih Apparently not. 😉 Bomb tonnage though is not a great measure when comparing modern (for that era) aircraft payloads to WW2. Too many other factors also contribute but I get where you're coming from.
When you're on patrol with Ivan and the snow starts speaking Finnish
*Kalinka stops*
I'm pretty sure the Finns said something like, "A drink to go with the bread" about the Molotov Cocktails.
Dave Hoffman it was similar to “Molotov wine to match his bread”
Basicly correct, molotov said the bombs they dropped were food, not bombs so the finns called them "molotov breadbaskets" and then "molov cocktails" were flammable wine which were thrown at the russian tanks to destroy them.
Sisu is when you have to move Mt Everest with just you and your shovel and you go: "Perkele! Let's get to work!"
fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuuvan_kanava
This is a great example of sisu. For those who don't understand finnish: a Finnish guy dug a channel alone in Lapland. It's 200 meters long and over 4 meters wide. He had only a shovel and it took him about ten years to dig it.
@@vesas5214 holy moly that's amazing
"Cut them down!"- Finnish battle cry.
Some of the toughest soldiers in history come from 🇫🇮.
More like "hack on".
Edit: actually more like "hack onto".
Hakkaa is the third person singular imperative form (the form you use when you tell someone to do something) of hakata (to hack). Päälle is the allative form (onto something) of pää (head/tip). But don't get confused by the head part. It doesn't mean hack at the top of their heads. It means hack onto them. Like after having hacked you have arrived to be on top of them. Originally used by Finnish light cavalrymen during Thirty Years' war. Later on the cavalrymen would be romantically refered to by a name that comes from the battle cry. But I'm sure you knew that.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakkapeliitta
@@marcusaurelius7623 ”hakata” usually also means ’to beat up’
It is said that blue colour on the Polish National Flag stands for reliable allies... Greetings from Poland to Finland.
Very informative. Well done.
Thanks!
history may be repeating itself....but in spring this time (._. )
and actual global aid as opposed to the winter terrain (._. )
Motti, stacked firewood just waiting to be set ablaze.
Finland: "Judge me by my size, do you?"
underrated
5 hours ago I thought to myself "There will be no Sabaton History for Talvisota because no one remembers Finland". God has listened.
No one remembers finland? Really? Its all they ever talk about.
Yesterday was the anniversary of the end of the winter war
@@TheIfifi Well in memes but people really dont know much about this war. It was buried under the other wars in ww2.
@@hillbilly5609 dunno. Anyone that has an interest in history usually knows about it.
Maybe Finland is not known by all, but I am quite sure that the ones who know are the ones that truly can appreciate it.
Also: cannot wait for Simo Häyhä's episode
A soviet commander was marching through finland when he heard "one finnish soldier could take 10 soviet men" so he sent 10 men, never to return. "one finnish soldier can take 100 soviet men" so he sent 100 men, never to return. "One finnish soldier can take 1000 soviet men" so he sent 1000 men, one returned mortally wounded "Don't send any more! There's two of them!"
Ok but it was. "It's an ambush, there's two of them"!
Is that a joke?
@@proudtitanicdenier4300 No! It's a fact!
When people ask me stupid questions, it is my legal obligation to give a sarcastic remark.
@@proudtitanicdenier4300 Its a Joke
Welcome back Video
Another great episode on the Sabaton History Channel!! Talvisota wasn't in my usual rotation but I'm adding it to my frequent playlist!! My son turned me on to Sabaton just over a year ago and we attended the show in Silver Spring, MD in March 2018. Can't wait to see you guys in the US again soon!!
This aged well as of March 2rd 2022
Finland is always a factory of badasses: Simo Hayha and Lauri Torni to name a few.
Finland is also a place for heavy metal bands: we got (at the top of my mind now) Nighwish, Stratovarius, Children of Bodom and, as of lately, Beast in Black.
Also Battle Beast
Also another warhero who is alot less known: aimo koivunen
Check a few videos of him and you will be surprised how the f he survived all of that.
When winter is coming but it's speaking Finnish
Sabaton music is always better because of the historical meaning of the songs and I love this channel keep doing what you're doing!! And come do a tour in the southern US soon 😁
Have u heard about Iron maiden or Metallica :D
The video is back again? Nice
Glad they were able to sort the issues out and get this re-uploaded.
The fact that they use three digits to number the episodes fills me with hope that there'll be >100
I think they said they would make one for every song
To be precise, it would be >99
@@SabatonHistory *Sabaton makes a new album*
10:24 The man in the middle is Lauri Törni who fought for Finland, Nazi Germany, and the United states (as an Army Ranger in Vietnam).
He was green beret fyi..
When I went skiing for the first time in Colorado, there were a few songs I was listening to down the slopes Talvisota was absolutely one of those songs!
Whenever I go skiing I listen to Talvisota first!
You guys gonna do vids on other conflicts like the Carolus Rex albums great northern war?
Of course!
Glad this is back
We surely are as well
My favourite sabaton song next to hearts of iron! Thanks guys.
I'm in love with this band. :)
🤘🤘🤘
Talvisota, the movie that made me look for the band that had a song about it.... Just that one song was enough to make me hooked in Sabaton!
Me:
Someone: ...General Mannerheim...
Me: *Soldier of 3 armies intensifies*
I´m so proud to be a Finnish. Hail to all winter war heroes. Few are still alive. And special thanks to Sabaton for to remember your neighbourg nation. Sisu forever!!! PERKELE!!!
Among my firearms, my favorite rifle is a Mosin-Nagant that was captured in the Winter War. I adore that rifle but I never knew the full story behind. It's amazing to know about Talvisota! It feels unreal to think that the very same rifle was once held by a Soviet Soldier desperate to survive against the Finnish defenders, to know it passed through the hands of Finnish Soldiers who fought bravely for their nation. It keep it in prime condition too. I never want their to be a day when this rifle is unsafe to fire.
I love Sabaton and I love history so Sabaton History is a match made in heaven for me. Keep up the incredible work!
Best collab channel ever
Thanks!
Some ski bois made into a Sabaton song, what an honor
*IT HAS BEEN RESTORED BROTHERS*
Thank you so much! Love you guys for doing this!
Can we get a little more info from the band’s perspective on what happened during song writing? Maybe who wrote the main riff and when and similar stuff? 😬
This is the number one thing I now look forward to seeing every Thursday. This is the best crossover UA-cam channel ever made and I look forward to seeing more content in the future. One of my favorite bands that I was lucky enough to see while they were on tour in the United States in Atlanta, and one of my favorite World War II History Channels. It's a perfect combination
🤘thanks! We love it as well :) And there's great stuff coming up. Can't say it yet but I bet you'll love it
What Joakim mentionned about having a lot of cool stuff has intrigued me. Any hope of a vlog showcasing what Sabaton has collected over the years?
I would love that
Excellent job yall once again!!! Keep up the good work!!!!
dang i love this channel. Sabaton and war storys
It would be kick ass to spend a day with Sabaton drinking and cruising the Baltic.
Yeah the band needs to come to Finland more often! Love you guys and Indy!
Looks like winter is hell in war.
This is part of our history!! Thank you so much for this!! It was my pleasure to watch this vid. ♥️ I love you Sabaton and I love Sweden!!!!💕
Thank you for your continual support of the Adeptus Mechanicus, Sabaton History. Your display of a sacred mechanical skull does please the Omnissiah. Our Binary cants will be with you.
"With Molotov coctail in hand, no fear of their tanks, Death or Glory!
Rise Nation's pride, hold what's yours, strike them where it hurts. Fight, hold your ground, winter war, reinforce the lines." Art of War is my favorite album. 🎵🤘
Another awesome video! Talvisota is one of my favorite sabaton songs
I found your music not but a few months ago, and you’ve very quickly taken the spot of my favourite band. Keep up the amazing work.
🤘🤘🤘 Awesome! Thanks! And we will :)
I remember hearing that Stalin was wanting to recreate Germanies Blitz across France. That was one of the reasons they tried to commence such a quick war.
Movies and other media could learn a thing or two from this. About how employing tactics can be just as interesting, if not more so then a straight up charge.
Another great episode, headbanging all day long
NO FUCKIN WAY! Two giant badasses in the same room!
Pls Aces in exile next
I love this song...
9:39 I'll just disagree with you there. Let me present my counterargument in a form of a stage play.
Stalin goes to Lithuania:
-Yo, can I get sum military bases?
-Sure, just don't invade.
-SIKE! All ur base are belong 2 us.
Stalin goes to Latvia:
-Sup, can I get sum military bases?
-Sure, just don't...
-Hey, nice place I got here.
Stalin goes to Estonia:
-Cheers, can I get sum military bases?
-Sure...
-Aaand another one.
Stalin goes to Finland:
-Terska, can I get sum military bases?
-Can't give you those, could we instead give you...?
-Thefuckyoujustsaidtomeyoulilshit!?
*one winter war later*
-Right, I'll just take the bases and fuck off.
I can imagine Ninja as Stalin
Awesome channel and content for a history enthusiast...Can't wait to see you guys live for the first time in my country of Malta!! Keep headbanging boys \m/
Annnnddd you deliver again!! So much win in this!
Welcome back video
The movie of Talvisota is also pretty good.
Can't wait the next video
Great video as always. Hope you guys can come back to Las Vegas sometime. The concert was awesome! My Great grandfather was from Vetlanda.
One thing I don't think was also mentioned was the fact the Soviet officer Corp had suffered massive purges and suffered greatly due to this. Of course, seeing how poorly the Reds were doing also gave Hitler and the OKW the idea that conquering Russia would be a breeze.
Yeah and also made Stalin go "oh shit, my army sucks"
Indy certainly mentions that on his own World War Two channel
@@SabatonHistory Cool, I will check it out. Before this I was only familiar with his Great War stuff but did not check out his other channels. Too much awesomeness in the world, never enough time.
The World War Two channel is very much worth it ;) Thanks!
We are back!
Amazing work guys!!!!
This song is my absolute favorite by Sabaton, bar none. Thanks for making your new video on Talvisota, guys!
You're welcome!!
Sabaton or someone should make a musical/movie about one of the World Wars using Sabaton songs to tell the story. Think about it.
WWII brought to you by Sabaton. I'm sure schools systems would incorporate it.
Waiting for the song about Russian loss in Ukraine
This is very good way to learn and study history. Thank you sabaton 👌💪
Amazing guys! Tusen tack!
Ah yes, the "105 Days of Glory" as it's also known in Finland.
A big warm "kiitos" for this video (uncharacteristic for us Finns, I know ;) )
When video about Lauri Torni. "Soldier of trhee armies".
I have been to so many gigs. Wellcome, Sabaton!
We are glad to read you support us live!
@@SabatonHistory Thank you for these history lessons! Tackar och bockar!
Yay!! I love you guys! This is one of my favourite songs, giving me chills and tearing up a bit! What are you doing is great guys! Feeling better than in history classes. I was so frustrated when I saw only couple pages of history about both world wars in my history book at school, it became a huge disappointment, I had nowhere to spread my knowledge about it all!
Thank you very much for your kind words! Have you checked out Indy's ww2 and ww1 channels as well? They're awesome as well!
Sabaton History I'm definitely planning to check, he's so good in sharing the information, I really liked him.
Thank you for replying :D
10:24 ITS Lauri Törni! (Larry Thorne) is the next video about him maybe? :)
Not next :/
Sabaton History hmm ok :)
Dear Indy et al. My father (founder of Malmö Flygindustri, MFI), also a childhood friend of Carl Gustaf von Rosen who flew on the Finnish side, had a friend who worked in The Winter War on the Finnish side. My fathers friend worked behind the Russian lines (yes, I know. But the Soviet and Russia are the same). He worked at night going into these "earth houses" (Purte???) that the Russians had taken. Only carrying a knife. He survived the war......
Man, I love this stuff
Joined Patreon just to support you guys. Keep up the great work!
Awesome! Welcome!!
Both had two advantages
Soviets: better tech, more men
Finland: Simon häyhä, stalin
You forgot Lauri Torni, the man with the most ferocious killboner for commies ever recorded, so much so he first joined the Nazis, then the Americans in Vietnam, just so he could kill more reds!
Do the soldier of 3 armies
YES i was thinking about this just this morning.
And we are back!
Who would win?
Soviet Industrial Tanks?
or one loggy boi
a finn
Rise, nations pride
Hold what’s yours
Strike ‘em were it hurts
Fight, hold your ground
Winter war
Reinforce the line
A slice of a knife to a throat
And their blood turns to ice
TALVISOTA!
Kiitos videosta, oli hyvä. Perkele from Finland!
Brilliant.
We're proud of you Finland. Hakkapeliitta!
Talvisota is best listened to either before or after white death
I love this song
This is now mu favorite channel on UA-cam, period
Great to read that!
@@SabatonHistory You guys are the best!!