Winter War 1939-1940 - The Setup DOCUMENTARY

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  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals  4 роки тому +165

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    • @TyrannosaurusRex5027
      @TyrannosaurusRex5027 4 роки тому +4

      @Kings and Generals I have fluffy relatives who lived in similar climates. They were covered in thick feathers that kept them warm in the cold temperatures.
      As always another excellent video. Only you guys can make an era I dont study fascinating

    • @zuzudernegger9721
      @zuzudernegger9721 4 роки тому

      It's better to skip 20th century wars.

    • @user-hv9zf6fw3o
      @user-hv9zf6fw3o 4 роки тому

      Arabic?

    • @captainsalamander5473
      @captainsalamander5473 4 роки тому

      Good video!A history of epic and brave.
      Expecting you can consider greco-italian war I sggusted.

    • @johndaniel9714
      @johndaniel9714 4 роки тому +5

      Hey kings and generals make on 1965 India-Pakistan war.

  • @dinolandia8978
    @dinolandia8978 4 роки тому +218

    Little known fact - Mannerheim was an Imperial Russian General in WWI and the personal bodyguard of the last czar. While not initially fluent in Russian he learned over the years. Thus, he was familiar with operational doctrines and tactics used by the Russian army when they invaded. He was even able to translate commands given over radio intercept. Mannerheim was also the czar's spy to Qing China. His mission was to probe for weak points and look for locals who would be amenable to joining Russia in the event of a Chinese revolution. He made his way through present day Xinjiang, Gansu, Tibet, and finally Beijing while posing as a historian. His report gave a detailed account of Chinese modernization, troop movements, fort locations, weapon types, geography, etc. He compiled this information into a report which was later used by the Russians in their fight against the Japanese first in Kalkin Ghol and then later in their sweep through northern China in the dying days of WW2. This man deserves his own documentary.

    • @Jokakutihut1
      @Jokakutihut1 4 роки тому +9

      He really does deserve his own documentary.

    • @dinolandia8978
      @dinolandia8978 4 роки тому +24

      @@Jokakutihut1 Mannerheim remained an imperial loyalist all throughout his life and kept a signed portrait of the old czar in his study. When visitors asked why he kept a painting of the long dead czar he said always said simply, "b/c he is my emperor." He blamed himself for losing the Russian Civil War where he was a general on the Whites and the execution of the royal family. There is a fascinating book about him - "The Horse that Leaps through Clouds."

    • @Jokakutihut1
      @Jokakutihut1 4 роки тому +4

      @@dinolandia8978 might give it a read thanks

    • @scepticalwalker3984
      @scepticalwalker3984 4 роки тому +7

      He respected and even loved old Russia but hated Stalin’s USSR. As you say he lead Russian troops in WW1. Started as a ‘one star’ general (brigade) 1914 and ended it as a ‘three star’ general LtGen (corps) 1917. Not sure he participated in the Russian civil war after the revolution. He was busy fighting for Finnish independence after 1917

    • @alexanderbarkman7832
      @alexanderbarkman7832 4 роки тому +10

      @@scepticalwalker3984
      Finland never fought for intependence, it was given to them from Lenin.
      The whites in Finland did fight against the majority red population with German aid tho.

  • @MrBigCookieCrumble
    @MrBigCookieCrumble 4 роки тому +1064

    There's an old joke about the winter war that goes something like this:
    A russian regiment is going along a road until they reach a ridge,
    when suddenly the russian commander hears a finish man shouting from the other side;
    _"One finish soldier is worth 10 russians!"_
    The russian commander takes on the challange, and sends ten men over the ridge,
    a short firefight later and the same finish man is heard shouting;
    _"One finish soldier is worth 100 russians!"_
    The russian commander sends 100 men over the ridge, after a few minutes of intense combat everything goes silent.
    _"One finish soldier is worth 1000 russians!"_ the same man screams.
    Furious, the russian commander sends in the rest of the regiment and a great battle can be heard, after half an hour of heavy shooting and explosions it all goes quiet, and a single wounded russian soldier comes crawling back across the ridge and says;
    _"It's a trap! There are TWO of them!"_

    • @user-it3ve2bl7j
      @user-it3ve2bl7j 4 роки тому +21

      If they shit themselves, they should at least shout about a great victory and unprecedented courage.)))
      I've always been amused by such people!)))
      (I'm talking about the Finns.) :D

    • @Karlosangeles1
      @Karlosangeles1 4 роки тому +22

      @@user-it3ve2bl7j I find your comment amusing,but I`m laughing at you only for different reasons.

    • @user-it3ve2bl7j
      @user-it3ve2bl7j 4 роки тому +4

      @@Karlosangeles1
      I'm talking about the Finns))

    • @Karlosangeles1
      @Karlosangeles1 4 роки тому +59

      @@user-it3ve2bl7j I can understand the humiliation of being defeated by a much smaller and poorly equipped defender..

    • @user-it3ve2bl7j
      @user-it3ve2bl7j 4 роки тому +5

      @@Karlosangeles1
      Are you schizophrenic?))

  • @AHersheyHere
    @AHersheyHere 4 роки тому +497

    Can't imagine where the Winter Olympic event that combines skiing and shooting at a target came from.
    Looking forward to the upcoming episodes.

    • @attilakatona-bugner1140
      @attilakatona-bugner1140 4 роки тому +30

      They just practiced for the winter olympics

    • @locassen
      @locassen 4 роки тому +14

      It comes from Norway, actually:)

    • @Ashtonlegoguy
      @Ashtonlegoguy 4 роки тому +4

      Aaro Pajari, a man of the meme. Also, Siilasvuo. The artist of Raatteentie

    • @parvuspeach
      @parvuspeach 4 роки тому +3

      same applies for penthatle in the summer olympics, all military exercise sports

    • @unknowntraveller8633
      @unknowntraveller8633 4 роки тому +1

      Has to be my favourite Winter Olympic event..

  • @jokuvaan5175
    @jokuvaan5175 4 роки тому +51

    Stalin: "Ok. So here is the deal. I want your border moved away from Leningrad for security concerns"
    Finns: "Hmm... Okay... Hey wait. This also says we have to give up a military base near our capital, a port in the north where we could possibly obtain assistant in case of war and dismantle our best and pretty much only defensive line. Why would you need that for securing Leningrad?"
    Stalin: "Uhh..... you know... just want to feel safe and all." *whistles casually*

    • @petrusinvictus3603
      @petrusinvictus3603 2 роки тому +4

      I would have given 50 kilometer or more but I am an ameeba without a spine. There is a Finnish saying: "If you give your small finger to the Devil he will eventually come to demand your arm!"

  • @Christian-pr3st
    @Christian-pr3st 4 роки тому +892

    Mannerheim : Hey Stalin wanna hear a joke?
    Mannerheim : Helsinki
    Stalin : I don´t get it?
    Mannerheim : and you never will! PERKELE

    • @franciscomm7675
      @franciscomm7675 4 роки тому +11

      Christian, good joke. But there were other finnish commanders besides mannerheim who played key roles in the winter war

    • @Christian-pr3st
      @Christian-pr3st 4 роки тому +51

      I am well aware of this fact! :) I don´t know why you felt the need to point this out

    • @pexxajohannes1506
      @pexxajohannes1506 4 роки тому +22

      This is not a joke but "true" story. Stalin had respect for Mannerheim. He was only "white russian general" left alive after purges. And he had served imperial Russia. After ww2 communists wanted to have Mannerheim trialed as war criminal (logic was not big thing in war crime trials) it was said commrade stalin was not at all pleased with idea. And Mannerheim was president after the war couple of years...

    • @pexxajohannes1506
      @pexxajohannes1506 4 роки тому +18

      Actually, soviet bombers appeared in Helsinki and bombed capital. Thus starting war.
      Finland (3.5 million inhabitants) is not stupid enough to declare war on 170 million Soviets. No matter what soviet history says. It just dont happen. Size matters.

    • @vkplayz2180
      @vkplayz2180 4 роки тому +8

      soviets won the war in 44 lol

  • @aegystierone8505
    @aegystierone8505 4 роки тому +458

    Mad respect to the Finns, a tiny nation that dare to take on a giant like the Soviet Union.

    • @user-vt1cd7yh3u
      @user-vt1cd7yh3u 3 роки тому +6

      Thanks you we never forget. 🙏💙

    • @kurtwollermann2210
      @kurtwollermann2210 3 роки тому +6

      true heroes every last man

    • @AWtify
      @AWtify 3 роки тому +8

      Despite the fact that they could get a large territory from the Soviets without a war and without losing Finnish territory as a result of the war. No matter what you say, Stalin's demand to move the border away from Leningrad was quite reasonable.

    • @BatCostumeGuy
      @BatCostumeGuy 3 роки тому +2

      @@AWtify Reasonable or not they lost that's all that matters.

    • @Joonavainio
      @Joonavainio 3 роки тому +17

      @@AWtify We do not negotiate with terrorists.

  • @allu3853
    @allu3853 4 роки тому +238

    My Greatgrandfather from my fathers side fought in the Taipale in the Winter war. He survived the whole war unscathed.
    At the last months of the Continuation war 1941-1944 at the battle of Tali-Ihantala he went MIA.
    My grandfather was 3 years old and hes mother my greatgrandmother only 21 when the message came home.
    Heart breaking.
    From my mothers side my grandfather lost two of hes three older brothers in the continuation war.
    He still has their pictures on his nightstand.

    • @pexxajohannes1506
      @pexxajohannes1506 4 роки тому +23

      My grandfather was in train to be sent to front when he was pulled out of the train to his disappointment. He was only phone mechanic and reapair guy in vital communication hub. Spend his war riding harley davidson and racing to repair lines after soviet bombings...

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 4 роки тому +1

      I sympathize with you friend. War can be a terrible affair.

    • @Grinzold8
      @Grinzold8 4 роки тому +11

      After watching a video about toy soldiers maneuvering on the map, I'm thankful that you wrote a comment like this. The whole generation of men were if not killed, mutilated physically and/or psychologically. You can only imagine the long term impact of that to the small country including women, children and children's children. Everyone lost something.
      As a Finn history nerd, big thumbs up for the video tho. Totally looking forward to the next episode!

    • @pexxajohannes1506
      @pexxajohannes1506 4 роки тому +3

      Tali-Ihantala was probably one of toughest fights there was. Whole Landscape changed with artillery barrages in a day.

    • @bitukas79
      @bitukas79 4 роки тому +11

      As I know from history, the battle of Tali-Ihantala was decisive for Finland, as soviets advanced there straight after they have taken Viipuri and there was a question will they make a breakthrough towards Helsinki or not. Finnish commandment understood that and thrown into this battle basically everything they had and won it, which was the last victory of the fins in WW2, but at very big cost, so at the same time they were unable to stop the soviet advance to the north of Ladoga. After this defeat soviet marshal Govorov asked for more reinforcements to continue his advance towards Helsinki and "to break that Finnish spine" as he said, but Stalin refused, saying that the outcome of the war will be decided in Berlin, not in Helsinki. He definitely realised that price of this victory might be too big, as soviets already had once before. Actually, Russian historians even today don't like to mention this battle. So despite this tragic end you must be proud of your Greatgrandfather.

  • @moota0009
    @moota0009 4 роки тому +119

    Great respect for Finland and every country is small in size or number but great in courage

  • @tapanilofving4741
    @tapanilofving4741 4 роки тому +264

    This was very well made with the prelude to the conflict from further back in history, thank you!

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  4 роки тому +12

      Thanks for watching!

    • @K0ukku
      @K0ukku 4 роки тому +10

      The best intro to the Winter War, everything was accurate and right. Also, a right amount of pre-war history is needed to understand the whole shabang.

    • @K0ukku
      @K0ukku 4 роки тому

      @@morzh1978 Yes, you're right son.

    • @rudde7918
      @rudde7918 4 роки тому

      @@morzh1978 That the Swedish State treated Finnish-speakers unequally is a myth man.

    • @rudde7918
      @rudde7918 4 роки тому +1

      @@morzh1978 Finnish wasnt forbidden in Swedish times. It was just not used in administration since the administrators weren't Finnish-speakers. And Åland has never been Finnish-speaking, why should they have to use it?

  • @ultramarines6418
    @ultramarines6418 3 роки тому +33

    The Finnish people fought a righteous war of freedom and self defense.
    I admire them, a lot. Brave people, indeed ❤️
    Best wishes from Germany 🇩🇪🤝🇫🇮

    • @W0DAN88
      @W0DAN88 3 роки тому +3

      In der tat

    • @LG-cq4dy
      @LG-cq4dy 2 роки тому +2

      Yes and I hope Ukraine right now is as successful.

  • @dontsearchdocumentingreali9621
    @dontsearchdocumentingreali9621 4 роки тому +55

    Love Finland from Croatia ❤

    • @Batmax192
      @Batmax192 4 роки тому +9

      Love Finland from Poland !!! ;-)

    • @tjq1888
      @tjq1888 4 роки тому +1

      BatMax every Poland hates Russia ?is that true ?

    • @bbzzykkuu
      @bbzzykkuu 4 роки тому +3

      @@tjq1888 We just hate russian imperialism. We don't have anything against russian people.

  • @maxlu9373
    @maxlu9373 4 роки тому +60

    Soviets: the winter is always on our side
    Fins: *Uno reverse card*

  • @MrNisse5
    @MrNisse5 4 роки тому +13

    This has personal importance to me, my Grandfather (fathers side) was among the evacuated along with his family from the Karelian Isthmus. When the war broke out, he and his siblings were sent as refugees to Sweden, where they were placed in foster homes all over Blekinge and Skåne. His father, my great grandfather fought and died in this war. and despite being just 2 years old, my grandfather was placed without any of his siblings. Most of the children didn't return to Finland after the war but stayed in Sweden and became swedes. And that is where my last name comes from. My grandfather spent most of his life in a small village called Svängsta outside the city of Karlshamn where I grew up. He grew up and married my grandmother and they would be married for almost 40 years. He passed away in 2007. He was also the inspiration for my first name.
    RIP
    Martti Ivar Lamppu.

  • @Lord_Lambert
    @Lord_Lambert 4 роки тому +68

    I have fallen in love with Finland since moving here some years ago. Thank you for making this video, it was, as always, fantastic

  • @FaithRox
    @FaithRox 4 роки тому +241

    When the snow starts speaking *PERKELE*

    • @dannyarcher438
      @dannyarcher438 4 роки тому +2

      How does the snow sounds like in Karelia?

    • @pexxajohannes1506
      @pexxajohannes1506 4 роки тому +1

      From what I heard grandfathers speak, it was very cold, but when in front fighting, you didnt feel because of fear of death. And nobody talked. Everybody kept very quiet untill very end.

    • @ivanlagrossemoule
      @ivanlagrossemoule 4 роки тому +1

      ebin :DDDD

    • @suokkos
      @suokkos 4 роки тому

      It should be "tulta munille" which was the Finnish war cry. It translates to "fire at balls".

    • @PennyDreadful1
      @PennyDreadful1 4 роки тому +1

      More like when the snow is kind of like back home in russia but smelling faintly of coffee and a liberal outlook.

  • @jrogers9052
    @jrogers9052 4 роки тому +17

    The level of detail in this episode is deeper than most of the documentaries I've watched on the Winter War. And the smart use of the maps to help explain the action is very appreciated. Well done, Kings & Generals!

  • @grvc44
    @grvc44 4 роки тому +456

    The soviet is acting gangsta until the Snow start speaking Finns.

    • @janne4518
      @janne4518 4 роки тому +10

      The Finns acting gangsta until a large scale soviet offensive

    • @pexxajohannes1506
      @pexxajohannes1506 4 роки тому +6

      Finnish soldiers kept very low profile. Soviet Union had two very powerful weapons, airforce and artillery. Russian artillery is not called god of battlefield for nothing. And with 20 against 1 ratio, yes there was gangsta around, but it certainly didnt speak finnish.

    • @norbertkrafcsik3628
      @norbertkrafcsik3628 4 роки тому +17

      even tho the Finns lost, history remembers them as the true winners

    • @norbertkrafcsik3628
      @norbertkrafcsik3628 4 роки тому +11

      Then it's probably the most pathetic victory the world has ever seen :D

    • @gastonhitw720
      @gastonhitw720 4 роки тому +1

      @پاسدار فرد Александр what about the continuation war, they won it, they took what they wanted, and that counted as victory even tho they lost

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 4 роки тому +134

    *the snow speaks Finnish*

  • @celecirion
    @celecirion 4 роки тому +16

    Greetings from Tartu, we just celebrated 100th anniversary of Treaty of Tartu, they even brought it out with police escort and showed it to the public in a museum.

  • @Noname_est
    @Noname_est 4 роки тому +200

    so f*king proud of men who fought in this war, one of them was my granddad.

    • @MrKillerwolf1999
      @MrKillerwolf1999 4 роки тому +18

      I have so much admiration for the fins! (From a Brit)

    • @tommyhijmensen6257
      @tommyhijmensen6257 4 роки тому +1

      @Noname me too bro ! Kurealia will be free again onesmore !

    • @dontsearchdocumentingreali9621
      @dontsearchdocumentingreali9621 4 роки тому +11

      I am proud of my granddad too, he removed commies in yugoslavia.

    • @JN-yf6gm
      @JN-yf6gm 4 роки тому +12

      My grandad was in this war. He was officer, i have seen his medals in my grandmoms home. He died when i was young boy. He was a good man but when he drinked the demons off war game out. My morher hated, feared and loved him. Sober he was good husband and good father, but war broke him and in the end, war won.

    • @boltonforthenorth5466
      @boltonforthenorth5466 4 роки тому +1

      @@dontsearchdocumentingreali9621 the balkan became shit after Titos and the communist was removed.

  • @heretyk_1337
    @heretyk_1337 4 роки тому +37

    As a person, whose country has to deal with what that so called "Union" did to us to this very day- even though we are suppose to be free since 1989- and having in mind what those bastards did to my country men and women during WWII and after, i have to say there is this grim satisfaction, when i hear how much of a beating Soviet got in Finland...
    I salute the braves.

  • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment
    @Big_E_Soul_Fragment 4 роки тому +84

    When you're chilling with your comrades and then the snow starts speaking *SUOMI PERKELE*

  • @calhungus
    @calhungus 4 роки тому +4

    My grandfather fought as a Swedish volunteer,first at Salla then the Karelian ismus.

  • @nowayman1406
    @nowayman1406 4 роки тому +309

    soviets: we will take whole finland in 3 weeks
    finland : You shall not pass

    • @Brandon0406
      @Brandon0406 4 роки тому +7

      @Ginno Ricci your profile pic fits just perfectly...

    • @karlhans6678
      @karlhans6678 4 роки тому +2

      Finland: I'm about to ruin this army's whole career.

    • @ferdinanddaratenas3447
      @ferdinanddaratenas3447 4 роки тому +2

      Stalin, stop, this is my no-no square

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 4 роки тому +6

      @Ginno Ricci: Muslims are about 2.7% of the population in Finland.

    • @unpopularopinion5809
      @unpopularopinion5809 4 роки тому +8

      @@seneca983 That's about 2,7% too many imo

  • @basil8420
    @basil8420 4 роки тому +18

    Watching a new kings and generals video while having dinner, life cannot get any better.

  • @nishunair1912
    @nishunair1912 4 роки тому +128

    David vs Goliath. Only Goliath came to the battle initially nerfing himself.

    • @timomastosalo
      @timomastosalo 4 роки тому +6

      Just like against David. Goliath mocked God before the fight. So God instructed and supported David to win,

    • @alekseyibragimov9873
      @alekseyibragimov9873 4 роки тому

      Wait... was David defeated by Goliath? I thought it was the other way around.

    • @timomastosalo
      @timomastosalo 4 роки тому +4

      @@alekseyibragimov9873 Yeah, this time David didn't defeat Goliath. But he won what he aimed to win, his life. And anyway, there's nothing with which to defend what Goliath did. Bullies are bullies.
      If it happened downtown in front of a police or militia, the police would put the big bully in jail, even though the small guy didn't die. Well, if the bully wasn't one of the police.

    • @alekseyibragimov9873
      @alekseyibragimov9873 4 роки тому

      @@timomastosalo If David didn't cooperate with criminals, he woudn't have to be shackled and strip-searched. Twice.

    • @timomastosalo
      @timomastosalo 4 роки тому +4

      @@alekseyibragimov9873 Once - the ratalion trip, to get back what was stolen from him. And being forsaken by UK, USA and France they was only left this Austrian who wanted to be German, a dark haired dude who wanted to be blonde.
      First time the Goliath attacked because he was suspicious. Bit there was no ruse against him But he made one to start to war - with field guns and ammo the little guy didn't have. David fought that fight without the help of those criminals. UK & France even planned to help, though they had selfish motives concerning Narvik & Kiruna.
      And they sold out the little guy. The Western allies abndoned the little country by the Baltic. There was only 2 evils left to choose: to let the bear eat you, or join the wolfpack to fight the bear. Well, there was no Axis pact signed, so that far it didn't go. Finland saw the war preparations of Stalin - they were sure he would atatck again, the signs were in the air. They thought the smaller risk was to attack then, when the Germans did too.
      So, actually with the 39-40 war Stalin got what he feared: Finland now fought against him with Germany. An example why we shouldn't believe our fears, we might mke them happen by our fearful actions.
      And Finland wasn't a Nazi country: it was a democratic many party country with socialists almost the biggest one. The extreme left and right were small: the communists were not in fashion, and the right wing extremists made a failed coup in the early 30's, so their leaders were arrested, and their support diminished. After WWII their party became illegal.

  • @osmanwarsama6046
    @osmanwarsama6046 4 роки тому +10

    amazing how an outnumbered and outgunned army could hold against these odds with such great victories.

  • @monocledlynx7127
    @monocledlynx7127 4 роки тому +52

    "There are so many of them, and our country is so small. Where will we find room to bury them all?"- Anonymous Finnish solder

  • @gbarberis7402
    @gbarberis7402 4 роки тому +21

    iam from Greece and i respect the Finns heavily as a people

  • @danielstansell6367
    @danielstansell6367 4 роки тому +9

    one of my favourite wars ever, i hope this continues!

  • @mandinka_language_and_proverbs
    @mandinka_language_and_proverbs 4 роки тому +3

    Another Thursday another happy day, thanks Kings&generals our love for the channel is unconditional.

  • @Sharnoy1
    @Sharnoy1 4 роки тому +11

    This was unexpected :0 Thank you K&G for remembering 80th anniversary of the Winter War! 🇫🇮

  • @cjthegood
    @cjthegood 4 роки тому +7

    Really am looking forward for this Winter War episode. Thanks!

  • @caffeinatedbuffalosauce883
    @caffeinatedbuffalosauce883 4 роки тому +57

    Everyone’s favorite underdog story

  • @texset5815
    @texset5815 4 роки тому +2

    From Finland and i have waited for something like this, specially by someone with so good vids... Good job keep it up!

  • @michealohaodha9351
    @michealohaodha9351 4 роки тому +41

    As a Finnish reenactor I'm beyond excited for this!

  • @mauriciowaldman4358
    @mauriciowaldman4358 3 роки тому +13

    When I was young, my father always talks to me about Finland. He was a Jew-polish immigrant to Brazil and like to remember the history of Eastern Europe. I was all ears and about Finland, because he always talked something meritous about brave Finland’s people and their determination to save the country's independence and to fight against the Russian army. But not only with respect to Finland's history. I learned the Finish people have an Asiatic ancestry, Fino-Ugric, as well the Hungarians and the defies of the environment, the North's coldest lands, where the life was mandatorily harsh. When he talked with reference to Finland, the comparisons with Brazil were usual owing to the fact the Brazilian environment is rich and lush, offering all resources to live in very well (despite this possibility...). However, since then, my admiration concerning Finland never decrease. This nation and its commendable people defend their motherland in opposition to Russia, a foe several times stronger, they have a developing economy and maintain a free and democratic society. Ultimately, I believe that the Cold War is an epic event that demonstrates the soul of one people's courage. But, is only one event in a memorable facts collection regarding Finland, its people, and its culture!

  • @jon6577
    @jon6577 4 роки тому +4

    So excited to see this episode and looking forward to another! I have found your channel maybe 2 weeks ago, but since I am interested in ancient history, ww2 and cold war, I've seen most of your vids! You rock man

  • @MarkPelleyTheSnakeHunter
    @MarkPelleyTheSnakeHunter 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. Amazing graphics and details as to how the position of armies were set up and what happened. I use these videos to teach my family about the wars. Thanks so much. keep them coming.

  • @MCSKELETOR
    @MCSKELETOR 4 роки тому +2

    Please continue this series. This is very well done.

  • @simulatorjack9497
    @simulatorjack9497 4 роки тому +3

    Another masterpiece!! Keep up the amazing work guys!

  • @theb0ganator
    @theb0ganator 4 роки тому +7

    This war can only be defined in one word...
    P E R K E L E

  • @lumdemokikon811
    @lumdemokikon811 4 роки тому

    Big fan kings and grenerals. I really appreciate the narrator's voice, it's so clear and very sharp and very immersive. Hope the channel never changes the narrator. Thank you for the wonderful content. This channel is really a gem in youtube.

  • @catelfpoland8717
    @catelfpoland8717 4 роки тому

    Extremly interesting, never fail in showing not so well known sides of such well known events. Much love!

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 роки тому +17

    Simo Hahya is a true badass, I'm looking forward to the future videos

  • @user-pz2dy7wc9c
    @user-pz2dy7wc9c 4 роки тому +26

    Long live Finland! 🇬🇪❤️🇫🇮

  • @grandadmiralzaarin4962
    @grandadmiralzaarin4962 4 роки тому

    Your videos are always well thought out and interesting. I look forward to following this conflict as I have your other wars.

  • @Santeri349
    @Santeri349 4 роки тому +1

    9:30 Props for showing the initial division plan of the M-R pact.

  • @Oxtocoatl13
    @Oxtocoatl13 4 роки тому +7

    Thank you for the in depth-background section! It's very rare to see representations of the war with the events of 1914-1920 thoroughly explained. A very good video overall, even your Finnish pronunciation is pretty good!
    Edit: Finland didn't exactly lose it's autonomy in 1905, it actually reformed into a more democratic system while retaining it's own currency etc. But the Russians began trying to unify their realm by limiting Finland's autonomy and that set in motion various forms of resistance, though most Finns didn't see independence as realistic or even desirable until Russia started collapsing into revolutionary chaos in 1917

  • @siechamontillado
    @siechamontillado 4 роки тому +7

    I remember when Star Trek used to be about exploring space, not war, but I guess a vision of a peaceful future died with Gene Roddenberry.

  • @Evochio
    @Evochio 4 роки тому +1

    I enjoyed the prelude and history, adds very valuable context.

  • @ScorpionVenomStudioGames
    @ScorpionVenomStudioGames 4 роки тому

    Thank you for all your hard work and research. You are saving me so much time on developing my video game. Big thanks!

  • @K0ukku
    @K0ukku 4 роки тому +5

    Bravo, sir! This is the best Winter War Intro / Setup to the war in UA-cam. Everything was accurate and detailed. Also, the whole context is important to understand so the brief history tour was very pleasant. Thank you sir. My grandfather from dad's side was from Karelian isthmus, present day Soviet Union, and grandfather from mother's side from the very location of Raatteentie. Both naturally served in the war and miraculously survived, so the subject is quite interesting and personal to me as a Finnish man & history nerd. All males (effectively around 70%) still serve in the Defence forces. ♫ ♪ Don't tread on me!

  • @GeoBBB123
    @GeoBBB123 4 роки тому +8

    Respect for Finland from the people of Hellas

  • @socratrash
    @socratrash 4 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video. Congrats. Keep up the good work. Greets, a Belgian historian and a huge fan.

  • @RileyRivalle2
    @RileyRivalle2 4 роки тому +2

    You did remarkably well with pronunciations in this video, I'm really impressed! :D

  • @senchenkov
    @senchenkov 4 роки тому +19

    Just to clarify: Finland was USSR "zone of interest" in Molotov-Ribbentrop pact along with Baltic countries. In all these countries, USSR first got permission to put bases and then toppled the governments.
    This was not about Stalin was not sure or concerned. Please do not cover up or rationalize the USSR expansion and aggression that is no different from Hitler's.

  • @ShaDoW-uc7bn
    @ShaDoW-uc7bn 4 роки тому +167

    never clicked this fast

    • @otakunthevegan4206
      @otakunthevegan4206 4 роки тому

      Damn me for being alseep when it was first uploaded.

    • @pexxajohannes1506
      @pexxajohannes1506 4 роки тому

      Almost as fast as Sweden prevented English and French volutaries coming to Help Finland at hour of its need. But ordinary Swedish people with arms did help and thanks for that. But Swedish socialist government..

    • @pexxajohannes1506
      @pexxajohannes1506 4 роки тому

      Without Swedish iron ore , ball bearings and Norwegian fish...oil...nazi Germanys world war would have been strangled in its infancy.
      I always wondered how royal navy screwd Norway so good.

    • @pexxajohannes1506
      @pexxajohannes1506 4 роки тому

      History does but economical and political facts dont change. Finland -Russia realtions after ww2 were complicated but relatively well handled by president Kekkonen.
      No matter who is in chargec(besides socialists) you need to feed and employ your population.

    • @otakunthevegan4206
      @otakunthevegan4206 4 роки тому

      @Stick me thumbs in yer ass The Soviet Union was wrong to invade Finland, but the Fins made it clear they were a rival by joining the anti-communist pact with the axis before the war. And during the continuation war, they killed a lot of Soviet Civilians, Finland was no Saint, and The Soviet Union still saved humanity from the Axis in the end.

  • @RTmadnesstoo
    @RTmadnesstoo 4 роки тому

    Amazing, well done. Thanks for the video.

  • @16year
    @16year 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you Kings and Generals for covering Winter War.

  • @avengermkii7872
    @avengermkii7872 4 роки тому +76

    I clicked this so fast that Stalin just started thinking about invading Finland.

  • @janbo8331
    @janbo8331 4 роки тому +24

    Great, I've been waiting for this! A few sidenotes: The Finnish tanks were Vickers bought from the UK before the war. As a means of cutting costs, they were bought without optics and guns. Hence, the first tanks were not usable until February, and even then almost completely useless. Half of the artillery was from 1877, but the main problem was still ammunition. In November, the Finns had as much artillery ammunition overall than what the Red Army could use in a single shelling before an offensive.
    @Kings and Generals: Where did you find the info on Mannerheim's plan to attack Petrograd? I'd never heard of this before, would love to catch up on it.

    • @Oxtocoatl13
      @Oxtocoatl13 4 роки тому +13

      There is a section about Mannerheim's Petrograd designs on his Finnish wikipedia page, though it's absent from the English version for some reason.
      Essentially Mannerheim, who'd made a decades-long career in the Imperial Russian Army and had many friends among the Russian white leadership, was a committed anti-bolshevik and would've wanted to lead his victorious White Guards to assist the Russian whites by taking Petrograd. However, this fell apart because the great powers weren't ready to fund the expedition (Finland's economy was a wreck after the civil war and there was a wide spread food shortage). Also the various White Russian groups were opposed to independence movements in the former empire and didn't want to recognize Finnish independence. At home Mannerheim lost the presidential election to Ståhlberg, who was more moderate and wanted to focus on rebuilding Finland and reuniting the divided nation rather than launching risky military ventures. So eventually Mannerheim's plans came to nothing and he retired from politics for the time being. It's interesting to speculate what would have happened if Finland had attacked Petrograd from the north while Yudenitsh attacked from the south in the fall of 1919.

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 4 роки тому +3

      Besides Vickers there were also Renault FTs, I believe.

    • @janbo8331
      @janbo8331 4 роки тому +2

      @@Oxtocoatl13 Thanks for taking the time to educate me! Much appreciated. I had always thought the Soviet claims/fears of Finland attacking Leningrad (before WW2) to have been an idea without any basis in reality. However, now thinking about it, the combination of the voluntary expeditions to East-Karelia, the plans for an attack on Petrograd, the close ties to Germany and the general anti-bolshevik attitude after the Whites won the Civil War - I am beginning to understand now. Naturally, after the Bolsheviks won their civil war in Russia, I don't think anyone in Finland would have been stupid enough to try to pull off that stunt, but overall it does give some basis to Soviet demands.

    • @janbo8331
      @janbo8331 4 роки тому +2

      @@seneca983 Ah, how could I forget! It's true, the Renaults were the only operational tanks Finland had at the start of the war. However, they were from WW1 era and useless in combat, which I think they never saw. I think I remember reading they were disassembled and used as fixed position guns on the Karelian Isthmus.

    • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
      @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 4 роки тому +2

      @@Oxtocoatl13 Interesting because Mannerheim refused to attack Leningrad for Hitler in WWII

  • @lukezuzga6460
    @lukezuzga6460 4 роки тому

    You guys have certainly outdone yourselves with this one! I can't wait for the next video cause the next one is the "Tale of the Tape!"

  • @calbackk
    @calbackk 4 роки тому +2

    Very Good summary. I’m impressed. Usually foreign descriptions of Finland and of this conflict are riddled with errors. Not so here. Now I’m eager to see the rest. 👍

  • @Dawgside
    @Dawgside 4 роки тому +9

    So proud of the Suomi!
    A Dane!

    • @2009Infidel
      @2009Infidel 4 роки тому +3

      Some 1200 Danes volunteered to fight in the Winter War (including some excellent pilots), many who died defending Finland. We Finns will never forget their sacrifices for our country.

  • @adamradziwill
    @adamradziwill 4 роки тому +21

    Long Live Free Finland , down to The golden horde !!

  • @GenghisVern
    @GenghisVern 4 роки тому +1

    Best doc on the topic I've ever seen

  • @jortikkaa568
    @jortikkaa568 4 роки тому +1

    The events of 1919 and early 1020's were totally new information to me. Thanks for good documentary :)

  • @MurmanskRU
    @MurmanskRU 4 роки тому +51

    Stalin's plan was to occupy whole Finland. Then he wanted to add to occupied Finland the territory of Soviet Karelia. The two territories would become "The Finish-Karelian Socialistic Republic". If Stalin succeed then in 1991 after the collapse of the Soviet Union that republic would of cause got independence like Estonia, Latvia and other former Soviet republics. Finland would be almost two times bigger now. But of cause with ruined economy and other problems. And Murmansk (I live in Murmansk, Russia) would be cut off from the territory of rest Russia. I think for Finland it was good luck that it did not become the Soviet republic. Now it is small but beautiful country with one of the highest living standard in the world.

    • @gilgameschvonuruk4982
      @gilgameschvonuruk4982 4 роки тому +1

      how is it to live in Murmansk? Are there many Sami left?

    • @MurmanskRU
      @MurmanskRU 4 роки тому +2

      @@gilgameschvonuruk4982 It is nice to live in Murmansk, but mostly in summer time. Otherwise it is cold and dark. However now it makes no diffirence where do You live - most of the people everywhere in the world locked themselves at theirs homes))
      Saami people live in central part of Murmansk region as well as in Murmansk itself. The number of Saami people is the same for many year - about 2 000 people. I have Saami and half-Saami among my friends.

    • @sampohonkala4195
      @sampohonkala4195 4 роки тому +5

      If Stalin had succeeded 1939 - 40 and the Finnish-Karelian Socialist Republic was established, the northern Europe would have developed differently. Sweden could not have remained neutral in WW2, Germany could not have reached Leningrad. The Soviet Union would have been much stronger with easier sea borders to defend. It would have won the race not only to Berlin but further west as far as it wanted to go, it could have crushed Germany without the allies. In the continuation war, the Finnish army was already 500 000 men strong, and to keep the balance, the Soviet Union had to keep divisions in Carelia instead of using them further south. My opinion is that if Finland had been occupied, there would not be independent Finland nor Independent Estonia today. There would be a much stronger and bigger Russia.

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 3 роки тому +1

      @@MurmanskRU But there was Karelo-Finnish SSR in any case but it was annexed to the Russian SSR in 1956. Not sure if that would have happened had all of Finland been conquered.

  • @marksoren340
    @marksoren340 4 роки тому +3

    My great uncle fought in this war and survived. Amazing how Finland stood up against this big bully from the east. Hakkaa päälle!

  • @lukaspatty6431
    @lukaspatty6431 4 роки тому

    This was your BEST video TO DATE!

  • @sciencestudent88
    @sciencestudent88 4 роки тому

    As always, badass work by K&G!

  • @HistoryHustle
    @HistoryHustle 4 роки тому +3

    Great video, loved the well animated maps!

  • @Kopyrda
    @Kopyrda 4 роки тому +12

    Let the sisu always be with you, Finns! Poland had helped you fighting commies during your Civil War (Polish Legion in Finland), we surely would do so during Winter War, but Germans and Soviets got us first.

    • @duhni4551
      @duhni4551 4 роки тому +3

      We rest easy in here, you guys keep the East side of border Russian free and we keep the Northern / Baltic side clean =) Also Poland can rely on our help if it comes to that.

  • @vernonmcphee6746
    @vernonmcphee6746 4 роки тому

    Very interesting. I had heard generally about the Winter War before but had no real understanding of the history leading up to it in any detail. I am looking forward to the continuation on this topic.

  • @aidabagirova4933
    @aidabagirova4933 4 роки тому +1

    great analysis and good video

  • @PsixosTisKolasis
    @PsixosTisKolasis 4 роки тому +34

    Do the Italian invasion of Greece in 1940 :D

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 3 роки тому +2

      It seems K&G now has a video on that as well.

  • @magnus3716
    @magnus3716 4 роки тому +4

    Awesome sauce!

  • @joezhou5426
    @joezhou5426 2 роки тому

    love this channel. Great work. Guys

  • @asada135
    @asada135 4 роки тому

    This is really nice video, since it explains background of the Winter war rather than focusing only to war it self.

  • @cristianvillanueva8782
    @cristianvillanueva8782 4 роки тому +2

    "Dimitri, why is our radio finish playing music?"
    "I have no idea."

  • @kaseyfreudenstein4970
    @kaseyfreudenstein4970 4 роки тому +36

    "BuT ThE SoViEtS TeChNiCaLlY WoN ThE WiNtEr WaR"
    *distant drunken laughter*
    *sakkijarven polka jams all radio comms*
    *10 to 1 casualties intensifies*

    • @Jellygamer0
      @Jellygamer0 4 роки тому +2

      They did, it just wasn't worth the ridiculous cost...

  • @biglenin7306
    @biglenin7306 4 роки тому

    This video was a pleasure to look at!

  • @testthis7745
    @testthis7745 4 роки тому

    Great episode, thank you :)

  • @johnjohnson-hp6hy
    @johnjohnson-hp6hy 4 роки тому +39

    Winter war?
    You mispelt "Meme War".

  • @mennokoegorn9483
    @mennokoegorn9483 4 роки тому +28

    Well, general Winter betrayed us in this war.
    P.S. Love to Finland from Moscow.

    • @MrTurpasauna
      @MrTurpasauna 4 роки тому +3

      General winter helped both sides in this war. It helped the finns at first since soviet troops were not prepared for such harshness at first and deep snow hindered movement. On the other hand, frozen lakes gave soviet troops and tanks much more options to maneuver and attack.

  • @mohbou3924
    @mohbou3924 4 роки тому +2

    Can't wait for the next episode

  • @KeijoKeittaja666
    @KeijoKeittaja666 4 роки тому +2

    As a finnish guy i enjoyed this very much, thank you guys!

  • @theoutlook55
    @theoutlook55 4 роки тому +3

    Rock on Finland! Everyone should also definitely watch videos from World War II in real time about this war.

  • @the_barkku_nerd7686
    @the_barkku_nerd7686 4 роки тому +49

    Suomi PERKELE!!! Every finnsih citizen knows winter war.

    • @juliushakala5148
      @juliushakala5148 4 роки тому

      Ja mitä tämän pitäisi tarkoittaa?

    • @the_barkku_nerd7686
      @the_barkku_nerd7686 4 роки тому

      @@juliushakala5148 Emt, jotkut asiat o itsestää selvyyksii mutt jossain o väärin käsityksii kute Mainilan laukaukset...

  • @Andreygnm
    @Andreygnm 4 роки тому

    Dude, I'm a new follower and these days I watched your Tuiuti battle video. If you wouldn't mind, I would suggest a video for the Riachuelo battle. The naval battle was as decisive as Tuiuti battle for the Paraguayan war. Congrats for the channel, it is already one of my favorites.

  • @davidtemplarios6422
    @davidtemplarios6422 4 роки тому

    Great Start, cant wait for the rest :)

  • @dieterhofner7043
    @dieterhofner7043 4 роки тому +3

    06:44 finally someone covered this part of unknown history the Karelians were led by Ukki Väinämöinen who tried to free the Karelians and join Finland.

  • @22vx
    @22vx 4 роки тому +66

    Winter war in Russia would suck so hard for combatants BRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrRrrrRRRRrrrrrrr

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  4 роки тому +35

      They say that Finland is the most beautiful country in the world. Assumption is that you are going as a tourist. :-)

    • @22vx
      @22vx 4 роки тому

      @@KingsandGenerals yeah and not as a warfighter LoL

    • @darak1455
      @darak1455 4 роки тому

      @@22vx you mean invading war soldier

    • @FinnishPatriot
      @FinnishPatriot 4 роки тому +2

      @@KingsandGenerals I can definitely confirm that it is quite beautiful here.
      Sincerely, a Finn

    • @leonzoful
      @leonzoful 4 роки тому

      @@FinnishPatriot oh Finland, a beautiful country with nice people, saunas, days of complete darkness, and the ones who took the shit out of Russians during winter.

  • @Pietr01337
    @Pietr01337 4 роки тому

    Very nicely made! Regards from Finland.

  • @philjohnson1744
    @philjohnson1744 3 роки тому

    Great video. I love your merch too.

  • @wiictvchannel1112
    @wiictvchannel1112 4 роки тому +4

    Aww yeeah! It's gonna be a good day!

  • @ab6789
    @ab6789 4 роки тому +3

    Great video. I have seen that no other history channel has covered Alexander Suvorov. The Russian generalissimo. Can you consider being the 1st one ?

    • @yayaya4345
      @yayaya4345 4 роки тому

      Yes please, recently read a book on him, very interesting

    • @ab6789
      @ab6789 4 роки тому

      @@yayaya4345 what is the book's name ?

    • @yayaya4345
      @yayaya4345 4 роки тому +1

      @@ab6789 Kauko Rekola: Suvorov - generalissimus - genius

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 4 роки тому +2

    What an interesting video. I know this happened during WWII. But I didn't know the details of what happened. Till now. I hope to see a part 2 soon.