New Order- Interview/"Blue Monday" w/false start on Countdown 1983
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
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His explanation of a drum machine to a bewildered interviewer always cracks me up "someone's clapping in there - imagine a lil fellow with 8 arms..." haha
"What are you, then?" -- "Bank robbers!" ; classic!
God, they were so young. Their accents have softened so much.
Geniuses. Absolutely geniuses they were and are. No one makes a song like Blue Monday. The lyrics just tear into me like cold blades. I love New Order so fucking much.
Same. Reckon they'll do another album? I hope so since they've been touring a lot since music complete.
Oh my god. They're such dorks. I love it.
If by 'dorks' you mean 'off their fucking tits', then yes they are dorks.
Been taking lots and lots of them dork pills yeah?
A dork is a mis-shapen penis.
Fuckin Stephen and barney are so cute hahaha especially barney he's so short and looked like such a school boy with his little military styled haircut and his clothes
Roy Mustang omg I agree !!!
Jonas de la Plata it depends, but I think I'd rather hug him instead lol
***** I think you do too ;)
***** you could be tho
***** yeah pretty much! And I think you like to suck too since ya mention it so much ;)
I've never heard Stephen Morris speak before.
He learned to speak for this video.
He always sounds like he's telling the funniest joke
He spoke in an interview at 1979 when they played at Something Else. You can watch the video in UA-cam
He spoke on Joy Division Documentary film
jajajaja
Steve's explanations are the best. I could listen to him for hours.
I really love when he demonstrates the Moog Source. Stephen's sense of humour is hilarious :)
I cant wait for his autobiography
Joseph Marrero he seems like the only one who can give an unbiased view on the Hooky v Barney situation.
That's debatable, since Steve is still in New Order with along with his wife Gillian. I can't imagine he's going to tell 'the whole truth' regarding the ups and downs of working with (for?!) Barney throughout his career.
I love Stephen. Amazing drummer and seems to be a nice lad.
I heard he's low voltage when it comes to spillin the beans
Bernard's talking voice is very child-like. so cute
New Order at their peak IMHO. Geniuses, melding punk sensibilities with electronic dance. Bought every vinyl they made in the 80's and all their CDs from then on. Still have the punched sleeve 12" that Factory lost money on with every copy sold due to the cost of manufacture to make the single look like a then, high tech, 5.25" floppy disk.
12" floppy, very rare format that couldn't compete with 8" 5¼" and 3½"
that was a myth, sorry.
@josephkyle1557 It is true though. It's well documented that they lost 5 pence on every copy sold, and it became the biggest selling single in the UK for a while. It's not a myth.
Bank robbers or thieves like us..
To have seen them in four different decades has been a privilege. 81, 87, 94, ‘08, ‘17. Plus Hooky last year killing it on complete play through of “Closer.”
Stephen plays like he’s a “fella with 8 arms” too
Funny how Bernard says the Prophet is "old fashioned" in 1983.
k___g___ b___ that’s the time when the digital synths were getting hyped. Now it’s the other way around.
Hooky not playing the drums as if he was trying to cave Bernard's head in. Those were the days.
onenarrowdoor
You mean Hooky was miming the drums, or playing them shitly to annoy Bernard?
When they played live on TOTP Hooky hits the drum one time too many with his hand and there's no sound, so I wondered if he did actually mime the drums?
Very few bands were live on TOTP.. unfortunately.
With the very noteable exception of New Order, who insisted on playing live each time or they wouldn't do it. Hence my enquiry above, as it seems odd Hooky would mime drums when they made such a song and dance about being allowed to play live.
Ohh nice one...I sung live every time
Combawomba came on TOTP🐵🐵🐵🐵
This is great, surprised I've never ran across this. The transition from the joy division stylistic choices to this is still such an interesting thing to me, so different yet both fantastic.
DiamorphineDeath Interesting too, I've read that Joy Division was moving in the direction that New Order ended up going in. One of the 'great ifs' as to how JD would have gone.
mark anderson I think one of them said Ian would’ve sang Blue Monday. :(
@@markanderson3870 Yeah, listen to The decade from Closer. You can definitely hear that New order in there even as far back as no love lost
This is great, I always thought this artist was Depeche Mode. Live and learn.
It's not a secret, they went to NY, went to the clubs and wanted to produce similar stuff to what they'd heard there.
That face Bernard made was everything 4:34
Pete certainly new how to rile Barney
Absolutely classic new order - terrible live performance but you’ve just gotta love em’ and Blue Monday? Well it’s the best selling 12” single of all time - enough said
The Toyota Corolla is the best selling car of all time. It doesn't make it great.
@@leoa4c it’s reliable and popular
@@the_fifth_wheel So popular, in fact, that when one passes by nobody even notices it.
@@leoa4cwhat are you on about mate, corolla is fun cool little car to drive around 😂
Saw new order last week. It was so awesome and when those first bass drums hit with blue Monday the whole place exploded
adore the presenter cutting to the chase with his first real question. And then Bernard's droll reply.
And that thick Dutch accent too 😂
Bernard look more handsome than other 20 yeas old influencer right now.
I come here every once in a while just to hear Stephen talk :)
Pioneers! Sounds better than the various recorded versions. Early New Order progressed slowly yet impressively in a short time……….Love this!
Stephen is an amazing bloke 🎹🔊💾⌨️🥁🤖
stephen describing his gear is the best omg
I really love when he demonstrates the Moog Source. Stephen's sense of humour is hilarious :)
Thank you so much for this rare footage.
Seconded. Love this.
They are so young!!! Great seeing them back then, near the start of their career.
stephen describing his gear is the best omg
In every live performance of this song I've seen of this from the 80s, they make a complete hash of it.
You should get in touch. I'm sure they will welcome your skill and expertise.
Just absolutely ground breaking and ahead of its time... Beautiful.
Great performance, really like the glossy kind of effect this video footage has, also I really enjoy the sound of the bass guitar when New Order play this song live. It’s funny though, every time I see Bernard and Steven enthusiastically talking about synths I can picture Hooky going “would you get on with the bloody song already” haha, but I think that clash between traditional rock instruments and electronics like drum machines and synthesizers is what makes the band unique.
New order one of best English bands grew up with there music 80s best decade thanks Bernard for the memories. ❤ them.xx I still play there music today never goes away best ❤ is best ❤👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Bernard is adorable here.
My all time favorite song in its purest and most original form... I guesstimate that I now have around 150 versions / remakes of this song by various artists as well as versions they did.
Bernard was really cute back then.
sidewaysonhighways agreed
They all were.
My mom always said my dad looked like him when they met.
I saw them in the us in 1987 ;) with PIL and sugar cubes . I had second row center in a giant natural amphitheater called red rocks in Colorado ;)
You are one lucky bastard 🥁😉
Batcavesales Batman...I am from Centennial, Colorado and have seen dozens of shows at Red Rocks Amphitheater...it truly is the 8th Wonder of the world!! Justin Hayward, of the Moody Blues played with the Colorado Symphony on a live recording in 1992 and loves the place.❤❤❤John Keating
Super jelly
tour w/ pil and sugarcubes was technique in '89. saw them then as well. 1987 us tour was co-headline with echo and the bunnymen
I saw the show in Philadelphia during that tour with Gene Loves Jezebel opening.Great show.Never got to see the Sugacubes,but saw PIL open for INXS.
I wish New Order did more explanations and demos of this type of stuff
Hookys bass at 5:39 - vestiges of Joy Division
Yes... the last remnants of the empire.
Awesome dorks 😁 fantastic group xx
Awesome!!! New Order interview/ Blue Monday 1983! 💯% Respect!
I saw new Oder once . The gal on the keyboards was smart enough to program all the music in to the computers in the first 5 minutes. Then she turned it on and left ;) brilliant . They did use those huge electro drums too . This is so neat to see all the hardware etc that makes a classic . The universe wants certain songs and this was definitely one of the universes top 5 .
Kyoko - looks like you missed the Winky Face, he was busting balls! 😝😝
I saw New Order on their Technique Tour at Shoreline.. with Sugarcubes & PIL… 1989’. Crazy Show!
Blue Monday.. one of my favorite songs!
Stephen is adorable I want him in my pocket
the magic behind new order ugh I love it!!!
Oh my gosh, Bernard is so cute.
He is!
Yeah ... throwing out Peter Hook was not so cute.
No one plays the bass like Hooky.
He’s a monster on the bass tbf- absolute legend
Audun Laading was a close second.
And he (some of the time) plays a very unique bass that no one else (famous) plays, the Shergold Marathon 6 string.
THAT'S A BADD ASS JAM I REMEMBER WREAKING MY DAD'S CAR LISTENING TO THIS JAM HITTING A TREE THINKING IT WAS A TRASH CAN... AND KEEPED ON DRIVING WHEN THE CAR JUST GAVE OUT ... AWESOME MEMORIES
bernard was very beautiful back then
Yeah, and now he looks like a banker ready to retire.
Masterpiece! Absolute masterpiece!
How to carry on regardless......Unreal footage.......another youtube gem.......;)
And welcome to the sound of young Salford...
This is awesome brings me back to grade school and going to SeaWorld they have this thing called dancing in the streets during summer. It was the best
Really worth seeing, especially the "human touch », which makes a big difference...
I want to be somewhere else now...I hear this and I feel so out of place in 2019....30 years I’ve reached, and how sweet it would be to go back to this.
It was the same in some respects. You had the big record companies, radio stations, TV trying to keep everything mainstream and commercial as possible. You have it better in some ways. You can access non mainstream music online, go to the bands sites and through specialised digital radio stations there's many more options. On the BBC we had an hour a night of John Peel, some alternative stuff through the 2 Kershaws, occasionally some stuff on late night TV, very occasionally on totp, NME, Sounds, word of mouth or go to the gig. Gate keepers everywhere. It wasn't all better then.
8 arms would be a good name for Stephen.
so young, so close from 1980 ... Thank you for being always threre :-)
peter looks 10 years older than the rest lmao
Is it only me who thinks that the first elements of Blue Monday are in the Joy Division's song "In a lonely place"? And in between of them stands 586 from "Power Corruption and Lies". It's like watching the evolution of an idea... versions of the same core...
I can hear some similarities between Atmosphere and Ceremony. The guitar in Ceremony sounds a bit like the synths in Atmosphere, to me at least.
I think everythings gone green sounds like an early blue monday
1:46 ... the Mac Sound !!! :D
Ой девачкиии, какой здесь Бернард милый😍😍
Реально
Бернард милашка всегда
My favorite New Order song..... greetings of Peru...
Stephen is such a damn nerd bro its awesome
This is what I miss most about the 80s and its music- even the top stars still dressed like regular folks do!
these were punks, of course they dressed like regular folks
you can't forget the indulgence of the glam-rock stars
Peter Hook said that insisting on playing live for real on chart shows hurt their single sales.
But the upside was that it gave them a larger live audience who came because they admired NO's audacity and refusal to sell out.
love this version. shocked that I've never seen it before
Countdown was a weekly Australian music television show broadcast by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation from 8 November 1974 until 19 July 1987
Yes, but this is Dutch count down...en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countdown_(Dutch_TV_program)
Yep, the Dutch Countdown with Erik de Zwart as the ever annoying host.
@@ronanrogers4127I thought that was a Dutch accent
Stephen hid his true identity as that of a mad scientist all the while masquerading as a brilliant drummer.
Touche' my friend Touche'
Stephen's voice and personality sound identical to Lee Dixon, the English football pundit! (He's also from Manchester).
Just can't stop... October 2021.
Can you feel Barney thinking "stop that shit Hooky and stop playing over me"? Meanwhile, never realizing that Hook's part actually make the song great. The tension is obvious to me.
Yes. If you read Hooky's memoir about Joy Division, he is *very* critical of Bernard being a control freak--both before, during, and after Joy Division. I think Hooky's books post 2007 have been cathartic for him--a lot of pent up anger at Bernard. To be fair, I think the evidence is there that Bernard was a control freak about the group, especially after Ian died. If you read Brian Edge's book, New Order + Joy Division: Pleasures and Wayward Distractions, I believe he quotes Hooky as saying something to the effect, "Bernard can be a genius, but there's a fine line between being a genius and being a dickhead."
Possibly he was a control freak to an extent, but Hooky was a very abrasive personality. The way he is behaving now with the whole royalties dispute is very childish imo, and it is pretty telling that Stephen and Gillian are perfectly happy to work with barney nowadays and produced a cracking album together, while Hooky plays Joy division covers with his son and writes books laden with bitterness. His revelations about his marriage to Caroline Aherne 3 months after she died from cancer was a classless move as well.
Possibly he was a control freak to an extent, but Hooky was a very abrasive personality. The way he is behaving now with the whole royalties dispute is very childish imo, and it is pretty telling that Stephen and Gillian are perfectly happy to work with barney nowadays and produced a cracking album together, while Hooky plays Joy division covers with his son and writes books laden with bitterness. His revelations about his marriage to Caroline Aherne 3 months after she died from cancer was a classless move as well.
Possibly Bernard was a control freak to an extent, but Hooky was a very abrasive personality. The way he is behaving now with the whole royalties dispute is very childish imo, and it is pretty telling that Stephen and Gillian are perfectly happy to work with barney nowadays and produced a cracking album together, while Hooky plays Joy division covers with his son and writes books laden with bitterness. His revelations about his marriage to Caroline Aherne 3 months after she died from cancer was a classless move as well.
Well, as Peter Hook basically says in a youtube interview, 'Barney's account of the events are false, mine are true, and if Stephen was not in the band with him and was on his own, Stephen's story would be much like mine.' Stephen never says anything, and never fights with Barney, so why should he mind playing in the band and making easy money? I have read both Peter Hook's book and Bernard's book. I wouldn't say Peter Hook's book is laden with bitterness any more than Barney's is. My impression (I obviously don't know either of them personally), is that Peter gives a factual account of what happened (not just the breakup, but every year of New Order's existence, some really hilarious anecdotes, great details on the recording sessions, etc.), while Bernard only really talks about himself and mentions the others in passing, and writes the book as if it's a work of fiction but true; by that I mean he interjects descriptive language about events which make them seem fabricated. Bernard also implies credit of a LOT of what New Order created. The end of Bernard's book gets really new-age like, while he's trying really hard to convince the reader that he's completely happy (he struggles with depression), and that he only wishes Peter Hook well, while in the meantime slagging him left and right. And for all that Peter Hook complains about Barney in his book, he continually says the Barney was less of a pain than other lead singers he got close to! Not to mentioned Peter Hook refers to Barney as the best guitarist in Manchester (better than Johnny Marr), and a musical genius, but a twat. In fact, if you want to sum up their relationship, from what I got out of the book: Peter and Barney always fought a bit, it was healthy, Barney was a twat and had a controlling personality, Peter Hook got sober late into the production of "Get Ready", and nothing really changed to cause a breakup except that now Bernard was not so easy to take without the booze and drugs and partying, so they split.As for the "modern new order" producing a "cracking album"...New Order hasn't done that since "Power Corruption and Lies". They are so mainstream and formulaic these days it's boring.As for Pete Hook playing covers with his son...if I were a musician, it would be a dream to pass that on to my son and get to play with him live, I do not fault Peter for that at all. And, if you remember when that all started, Bernard said he would never "go back in the catalogue" to play those old songs, but he's doing it now, isn't he?
i will kill to have the Emulator I with the emu factory library....so much legendary songs with it...perfect kiss, thieves like us, stripped blade runner main theme eetc etc etc
Best band in the universe
bernard just enjoying a nice screwdriver....
Bernard was a fucking god.
That song was such a stroke of genius that not even themselves could replicate it. Live always sounds poor.
The whole song is essentially one big sample lol
It’s crazy to think how easily you could execute this whole song at the push of a button now but these dudes are legends for manning that transition
thank God for the JD NO dealybop, can't imagine life without them
Stephen Morris' interview is great.
Hooks looks so unnatural while playing those drums without a base in his hand.
*bass
@@attackinberlin5895 I'm sure he's not holding a fish
"What's New Order: Computer programmers or musicans?" "Bankrobbers"
What a counter! I almost can feel how god damn annoying questions like those had to be for MUSICANS like New Order. Even though that kind of discussion were held 40 years ago.
they wanted to do something different. till then most bands had loud guitars playing hard rock and blues with the same pentatonic scales over and over again. this was very fresh at that point in time.
Steve taking the piss!!!
Really
2:45 blue Monday is the best song 🎵
This video is prizeless on so many levels!
he always looks flustered
Presenter in footage: Erik de Zwart
crazy just hearing that classic New Order sound come out of the Prophet-5 at 1:45
Bank robbers.....beautiful Barney......has Stephen taken on some of Martin Hannetts mannerism's and ways in his talking about recording ??......just a thought !!
the synth demos are hilarious! lol
'Its got a few flashing lights and it just goes' DUGADUGADUGADUGA
This is the coolest thing I have ever seen . I wish I could play with their toys
Stephen is hilarious x
Brazil New Order very good
Bank Robbers No Way! They are magnificent!
You have to wonder how New Order lasted as long as they did with the classic lineup, what with Mr Hook's bass so farcically loud... Stephen and Gillian do all the work as usual
awesome cover! these guys got a lot of talent
???? what are you on about...cover??? haha.
yes, they cover themselves
que sonidos de los fascinantes New Order
5:40 the bass line is Envio Morriconi
Gold ❤😂
Yeah that’s how u do it, love!! It means so much to me:)
Magnificent footage!
Great stuff, ty! Was Gillian checking out Bernie's backside around 6:05?