Mammoth Lighting Mint Series 6-Bar 680W Review
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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Here is a update on my Mint White 680. It cut five days off of my normal veg time doing a 4x4 SCROG (It took 49 days from the tap roots popping). I had the light at 36" above the canopy and @ 65% power through veg. I was able to veg my raised bed garden also under the lights using up a 7'x7' area. It outperformed my T-5 HO lights that I usually use for cloning and starting my garden by leaps and bounds. Bigger and thicker leaves and stalks on everything. Three of the six strains went into full flower production within four days of switching to 12/12.The other three were pushing out their first stigmas after three days. I lowered the lights to 24" and turned them up to 100% slowly over the first five days of flower. I'll update more later, but this light has been amazing thus far. I'm a bit shocked by the early flower production. It's defiantly worth the price. Make sure to get a discount code, and you'll feel even better about the price to light ratio. I do not regret this purchase one bit. It fits my needs perfectly.
how's flower going?
We’ll it should blow away ho t5 lights though. That’s not saying much.
Sorry, I just saw your comment. I pulled about 4oz/plant of bud and 2-4oz of trim/larf per plant using SCROG. I had to back the lights off a bit at the end because of triple digit temps. I normally don't grow inside in July and August. I would buy this light again in a heartbeat. I have zero buyers remorse.@@willgallo9706
No, but I do know several other growers who are using 1000w LEDs. I don't expect my 680 to keep up with a 1k, but it's not far off. I'm getting about 1/2 oz less bud and 1/2 oz less larf and trim per plant than they are with a 1k , and I like my electric bill better than theirs. @@ycannons8
Yar..where be ye discount code treasure map
Mammoth for the win. We have 50+ of the previous fold in our facility. Amazing quality and service.
Mammoth isn’t anything special those mint chips are lame where’s the reds and blues all white full spec optic for the win
@@scottiesgarden8682 “where are the reds and blues”. Lol. That is what the mint white diode is - 435nm blue!!!!
Why are those mint white diodes lame? Samsung and university research shows higher photosynthetic plant response with the 435 nm peak vs 450nm. Tell everyone why their research and top of the line newest diode is wrong you are right?
It’s their top of the line diode. Optic doesn’t have that. Just some added 450nm blue. Mammoth and all other led manufactures already have that with standard white diodes. So Mammoth now has 450blue and 435nm blue with the mint white diode + 660deep and 730far red. Your optic only has deep red. So your optic has less red and less blue (only 450nm)- exact opposite of what you think. 😂
Yes we have the previous model at work "i work for headyco lol" an they work amazing i use the previous model at my house with amazing results also would love to try one of these new models out tho they look and sound awsome
@@scottiesgarden8682 The Mammoth 880w Mint White shits all over the Optic Slim 750s Next Gen. You can literally get the 2 Mammoth UV upgrade bars(100w) and the Mammoth 880w Mint White which is 980w + newer technology for the same price as the Optic 750s. FYI they are all made in Shenzhen CHINA including Optic LED. Go do your research rather than be some scrub Optic fanboy who probably thinks they are made in USA.
I like seeing people have conversations about lights it interests me.. Any white LED Diode is a Blue diode at heart!! 😂 hope u all are well
You mentioned it was tested in a 5 x 5 and it says that under the par map but on the right side of the par map it says it's 4 feet, also with 8 par readings along any side seems it may be a 4 foot map?
It’s also says on their site that they don’t give you the side reading because it’s just light reflected from the tent wall in short it’s a 4x4 grow space in a 5x5 tent
It is indeed a 4x4 map. It's pretty snakey terminolgy in that, they use a 5x5 tent but the par reading maps are 4x4. It's flat out trickery at its finest... Oh we're technically honest but...
Just ordered the mint with green led. Please hurry
same
How the light? I ordered mine today. Any advice?
Can say i use mammoth lighting an it works perfect for my grow
@GROWLIGHTDEPOT
Question for you? how come you test all of your lights incorrectly with a mylar floor? It gives false readings. You need a non reflective floor to mimic canopy. All of your tests and readings are false.
Issue being a geek of all tech is I even want to upgrade my lights every other review 😆 and out of most of my hardware they wont be going out or date or becoming slow for a very long time. I have two GLS grow 200 lights, I really want a bar fixture that will fit min 90/90 but will max a 120/120
The PhotonTek X 465W or Grower's Choice ROI-E420 might be worth considering :)
@Ledgrowlightsdepot @GROWLIGHTDEPOT
Question for you? how come you test all of your lights incorrectly with a mylar floor? It gives false readings. You need a non reflective floor to mimic canopy. All of your tests and readings would read more par than if they were tested on non reflective floor. Canopys dont reflect light they absorb it. Tents are filled canopy on floor in real world testing....not mylar....
Did they mention the CRI? It looked pretty nice but my eyes aren’t as finely tuned as the instrumentation that takes those readings.
Can't find this bar for sale anywhere in Australia.
Are the you able to reposition the bars are they slideable?
Interesting light, interesting use of the blue or shorter wavelength in lighting. I’m excited and interested in learning as much as I can when it comes to innovative lighting technologies. I think it’s interesting how the blue and red wavelengths work together for different, yet better in terpene production, for instance. I love the lighting technology that’s out currently, we’re making headway by leaps and bounds.
It only makes good sense to use 430 and 460nm for both chlorophyll a and b. Seems like most company’s are concentrating on 450/60nm and not worrying about the lower end of chlorophyll A. So These evos have to be helping.
@@skidmarkdoaonfire7951 They most certainly are! It seems like if they do offer the light with the UV-B, it is really only going to be helpful in smaller amounts. For some reason fifteen minutes per 12 hours comes to mind. Dr. Bruce Bugbee or a related article is where I believe I’ve heard it from. Don’t quote me, I’m no doctor!! I just hear your concerns about the UVB and in the presentation and articles that I read on it, showed UVA being the only real benefactor. Maybe it was the UVC they were talking about and not the UVB. I’m no expert.
@@jakebrake7054 I think it’s fine by itself. My personal opinion. Could add some 395nm uva in very small amounts but I think it would just be better to use that for secondary lighting combining uvb and uva. The 435 is going to help with color taste and smell as it is. There getting this down slow but sure on ratios. I use t5 pure uv on some but don’t start till week five and it’s only a few min 3 times a day working up to 15min 4 times a day last 2 weeks. That’s uvb and A
@@skidmarkdoaonfire7951 Thanks for the clarification!
Just to let everyone know the h series of diodes are specifically for plants back in the day they weren’t they used the h to track sales now they actually are a different diode
I have an aray migrow light..very good too
i have the array 4. since i began using this light the plants have had amazing growth. in veg i try and get around 700 t 800 par at around 15 inches from the canopy. this practically doubles the growth. amazing light.
That’s a hell of a lot of evo blues in that light. And I don’t know why they did t use Samsung H instead of B
Thanks for the note. Generally speaking, the H and B are the same diode. Our Samsung Rep has confirmed. Only difference is they add a protective coating on the H...and call it horticulture. We do the same coating inhouse. So - it is less expensive to build with the B's.
Yes the H and B are nearly identical. It's marketing.
@@mammothlighting9055 nice to know. I thought the H was a little more efficient. Thanks for writing back
@@mammothlighting9055 Could you please explain why you are using the H's on this light if they are the same as the B's and you apply your own coatings? Serious question. I'm new to this and just trying to understand.
@@mammothlighting9055 there's no coating. It's a mith. They are the same.
there is almost no difference between lm301b and lm301h, maybe 5%....
Would you rate the mammoth 680 a top 10 light today??
Based on the components, specs, and price...yes.
@@Ledgrowlightsdepot will this be at a discounted price for black friday or cyber monday sales?
@@Ledgrowlightsdepot and when will you have it back in stock??
2/4 tent?
Mammoth or Spectrum king? Battling between these two..
I went mammoth Im very interested in the mint white spec along with the other diodes, seems like the spectrum is very balanced like natural sunlight
@@tay1545 yeah i been following spectrum for years, its full spectrum lights and def one if the best in the game. But mammoth seeks legit also. Wondering to get one of each and test side by side. Tell me howd you liked them after you got some results, would like to hear.
Hey I'm thinking of doing a 4×4 grow tent and I was wondering do you know how much this light would cost monthly on a electric bill, I live in Ontario Canada 🇨🇦 but I'm good with math so I can convert $USD & and what's the price
I’d say around 28 bucks a month average
All you have to do is find out your local electricity rates. I think @Skidmarkdoa On Fire is about right with ‘est monthly costs.
@@freedom_born so if I find out that, which I'm looking at now, how much power does a light like that take/ use per hour or is it by watts?... I apologize if I don't know all the lingo that's why I turn to UA-cam cannabis pro's 😁💨💨💨💨.... thanks for the reply.....👌
It’s by kilowatts per hour.
I think the formula is how many watts you’re using divided by the Kw/h (electricity rates) multiplied by the hours used. You’re prob gonna be vegging longer than flower… so you use the vegging light cycle (time/hours - i.e. 18/6).
If you veg for short periods then just use 12/12 light cycle to calculate instead. But it’s easier if i could just post a damn link. Screw you YT !!! 🤣
@@freedom_born Thanks, I appreciate 🙏 your help... I got a question, do ppl still use those 400watt light I think HPS the ballest is a silver color and pretty light with the bulb looking like a fat/thick zucchini, and I also have 3 1000watt with a heavy white ballest, I'm wondering should I just use the 400watt for vegging, or would there be a huge difference in price for my electricity bill?.... I wish ppl would still use those because they're brand new I planned on starting hydroponics but the apartment I was gonna do it in, the fuk'n guy backed out so I haven't used those lights for more than 14hours, I would love to sell them I'm just afraid I won't get any $$ for them, do you think it's even worth trying to sell them... Sorry 4 the long msg, it's just you got good information 👍😀....👌
Would you pick the mammoth 880 mint or the photontek 1000w?
Photontek
The mammoth has a better spectrum but the photontek has more light output.
@@Bobbyleebudde I went with the mammoth and boy am I glad I did. I will easily say nest light on the market at the moment. Only other light will be the new diablo
Mammoth 100%
This light has dimming options in 10% increments from 0 to 100? I think that's what you showed, correct?
It turns on at like 10% and rolls to 100%. Not in increments.
Has anyone in comments actually used one of the lights? I do not want to buy a Chinese light if there's any issues you can't get it taken care of is the big issue.
I just got mine a few days ago. Haven’t used it yet on a grow but left a review on the quality.
It’s not a Chinese light growmie. It’s an in-house fixture down to the diode themselves made in Colorado . Ships direct from Mammoth
It’s why they only release so many at a time as they assembled in-house.
@@ycannons8how’s the light. Did you used it already? Just order mine.
@@NBO.c it’s not bad. I’ve had two grows in it so far and they have both been good results. Good quality buds.
@@ycannons8 better then any other lights you used before?
One of the best lights in the game for the price. Sure there are lots better usually almost coating double the price. I'd choose the HLH Diablo before this but it's 1750$ Canadian vs this light at 995$ Canadian
Do you own one? Have you see one in person or just going on pics and videos?
It depends on your setup I think. For a tent a diablo won't work very well. A room however where you can get it further away it would be a good fit
I've had bad experiences with HLG. Bought a few of the Qb324 XL kits they sold a few years back. Hit HLG support up last year about a question I had with one of the boards and they denied ever having the product. They flat out denied the QB324 ever existed and was never something they sold. I lost all respect for them then and there.
It better work good
Ok, just got this light and I’m gonna leave my first impression without actually using this on a grow to inform anyone looking at this light but having problems finding reviews like I was. So I’m not impressed! Lots of complaints so far. 1st - build quality is not great. It’s a little flimsy feeling, the rubber end caps are just glued with a dab of rubber glue and can be peeled back to the glue. 2nd- The hangers for it don’t lock in place in any way. They’re just hooked and resting on pegs and gravity holds them in place. It feels like if the light got bumped it could come off the hangers. 3rd- the rubber glue was all over the light and had I had to rub it off with my hand in multiple places (very unprofessional). 4th- the paperwork in the box is pathetic. Almost no effort. The only information on the light is a folded advertisement showing the par chart and a little info copied from their website. The instructions on anything related to setting up or using this light are almost non existent. It says basically “open box, put hangers on, plug power cords together, plug in wall.” No other paperwork in the box. I double checked cause I couldn’t believe that was all that was in there. For reference I have 3 other lights, an optic 720w, GC 680s, and a migro aray 4. This is the worst built light of the four I have. Opening this light and seeing the product that sells for this price made me want to start my own light company. I guess that’s what is expected when having it built in China but they could at least have it sent to the us for quality control or something. And the design is pretty cheap so that’s not china’s fault. Also one last thing, the box is a full advertisement for the company. It’s like a billboard. Not discreet at all. Bright colors on a black background. No cover of a plain cardboard box mammoth?!? My wife text me “did you get a new tv?” So if you don’t want to broadcast that you’re growing I’d be aware of this.
So the good about the light so far…..1- the led boards look nice and the light color spectrum looks nice. More of a bluish or crisp white compared to the GC. 2- the light output is bright. I don’t see myself needing anywhere near 100%.
I will try to come back and give an update after my first grow if I can remember. This thing better produce some great results after the lack of build quality and the lack of effort spent on quality control and design. If not this is not worth the money and there are better lights out there for less money. We’ll see.
Please update! I'm looking into purchasing these
First off I’m having a hard time believing you got this light .
1st it comes in a Mammoth box .
2 there is loads of paper work with it.
3. The end caps are sealed.
4. It does have grooved slots for the hangers.
5 it’s far from flimsy ., If anything it’s overbuilt being it weighs 50llbs when most fixtures in the same class weigh 25 to 30lbs.
6. It’s an American made light . One of the few that still are.
In closing it sounds like you’re either trolling or bought a knock off from an unauthorized dealer selling fakes like Temu or Alibababa . Every Mammoth light is shipped direct from Mammoth themselves in Colorado .Mammoth is a in-house made fixture not Chinese.
@@darrenehhhhhhtill8051it’s an amazing fixture . Dude is trolling and super sus that he even has this light . Lotta red flags that don’t add up when describing the light.
Dude the lights a beast I don't know what you're talking about. I paid like 760 for the 880 8 bar and although the hanger it came with sucks since it's not low profile. I fixed that with four ratchet hangers. The lights literally a Mammoth when it comes to the erb. Worth every damn penny
@@darrenehhhhhhtill8051 so I’m not trolling. I’m a real customer who was giving a real review for people that were looking at this light. I bought this light straight from mammoth. Just checked my emails to make sure. My review is still the same two grows later. After the two grows I will say it’s not a bad light. It grows pretty good flower. Nothing out of this world but still good. As good as my other lights except for maybe one. It does great for veg but I’m not sure it has a lot of red in it. My growers choice s680 has a lot more red in it and seems to grow the best flower. I still feel the same about build quality though. I don’t have any motive for my opinion other than trying to help others. I disagree that it’s built like a tank. My optic s750 is a tank! This is light compared that, although I have my complaints about them also but another story. Still have an issue with the rubber end caps and how cheap they feel but you don’t really notice after it’s hung. I don’t even use the hangers cause they take up too much room up top and they don’t seem secure to me so I just used ratchet hangers wrapped around each side bar. Not ideal. So my thoughts after two grows is I don’t know if I’d buy this light again. The blue or the now green spectrum they are now using seems a little gimmicky to me and I don’t notice much difference and to my other lights. It’s not a bad light all in all and it’s definitely a powerful light. Ran it at 60-70% in a 4x4 and 90-100% in a 5x5 at around 18” height to get around 1000ppfd avg. It’s still running good, that’s a plus. Good luck finding a light if you haven’t yet. Sorry for the late 2nd review.
Can’t decide between this or new Diablo…. Somebody help….LOL
Both are good options! Perhaps the Mint 8 bar instead? That would give you more flexibility in terms of coverage area.
Would I need to run Co2?
@@jasonwarmsley5739 mammoth says no
My dude, your numbers off of a mylar floor are meaningless.
There is some reflection off the floor but more of it is from the sides of the tent. The light intensity from the fixture greatly outweighs any small amount of light bouncing up from the bottom of the tent. But, yes, it would be better to do with a black floor. Thanks for pointing that out :)
@@Ledgrowlightsdepotaccording to Migro it inflates numbers 20+%
@@654rickybobby mmm. I haven’t noticed that with my readings when I compare them to the manufacturer’s readings. I do agree that it would be better to make the floor black. Maybe I’ll make a video comparing an open floor vs a black floor.
@@Ledgrowlightsdepot awesome I've always wanted to see that, thank you, seriously.
@@Ledgrowlightsdepot Is the par map for a 4x4 or 5x5 for this light?
This light copies electric sky lights…
Not even close .
Electric Sky used cheap in-house LEDs that were gimmicky , and the spectrum from the ES is on the opposite end of the spectrum with way more red. The spectrum from ES is pinkish with a 2700k spectrum .
Greedings from germany, i hope my schoolenglish is ok enough to understand me, im not shure🤷 well, i dont like this ppfd its not high enough on the growtentwall or to high in the center, so its not even/evenly enough, and cheaper diodes with a 50-70 degree optik was better and the complete light was cheaper, so more people can buying the light, the light dimensions for 700 is to small, no really strong dark green diodes to stabelisted the green-colour/chlorophyll in the genetik of the plants, and no uvc with dimmerknob, no uvb with dimmer, no uva with dimmer, uv is good for calcium metabolism and makes the plants stronger to protect and defent for hungry little micro pets/bugs,,,,,,,, 🤷 uv makes strong an big plants and its better than skinny plants, and when i dimm the light get all the kelvin down? No, so its not good 🤔 making grow lights is going better🤷 greedings from wrongdog
Facts man optics way bettwr
Mammoth makes a 2 bar UVA/B addon with a separate 100w driver 395nm UVA and 310nm UVB.
@@scottiesgarden8682 really only 2 choices for optics: FOHSE or Scynce.
Inches and pounds 🤣
Im out of here
Would you have commented if he used different pronouns?
It’s 44x44 and weighs close to 50lbs .
Extremely robust fixture .
these are just the mints, NOT the mint emeralds!
This original version is much better than the mint emeralds version, hence the price drop from $1000 to $800. I just noticed they don't mention what kind of 3000/5000k they are using anymore. I wonder if they are even still using Samsung LM301B 3000/5000k in the new green spectrum version? That may be why it's so much cheaper. Also I just went back into the data and found their original Mint White had 469 diodes per bar and the new Green version only has 432 diodes per bar including the green diodes. That's a huge difference. Why add green diodes to the spectrum but lower the overall diode count? That explains why the original Mint White has much higher red/blue in the spectrum and also costs more. The green version only has 3 rows of diodes per bar, and the original has 4 rows of diodes per bar(except the red rows).
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@@brasco8721They're using the new High
Efficiency +
LM301H EVO
Which light are you referring to the older mint white 10 bar? Or the older 8 bar mint white vs the new mint white with green 8 bar? Because the older mint white 8 bar wasn't as efficient as the newee version with green and bigger driver. From the information i gathered. The new light is better. Based on the new academic studies that were released @@brasco8721
Beauty for sure @loafgrow