Picard in the hands of the Cardassians is still the greatest torture episode in Star Trek history. There has never been another episode acted with more drama, heart or believability. "THERE ARE..... FOUR LIGHTS!"
Someone mentioned that discovery was garbage to a point it does a few things all the other series should have done and do without for one narration of the captain or other crew member personal logs and the holo communication I think it got better when I saw curtain things on discovery I didn't watch Picard some parts looked stupid but not guests apperences like hugh what is your opinion
@@brianlindee220 I stopped after Nemesis. I did try but things are as fucked up as Star Wars (minus Mandalorian). This scene I am talking about is fromStar Trek TNG
Why does the mirror universe at this point in time, have less effective Torture chambers than in Archer's time period? Those chambers could keep you in pain without you passing out.
It is ironic that some people seem to derive humour or pleasure from the suffering of others. Even though Philippa Georgiou spent time observing a Starfleet crew she still tortured her own daughter. I realize in some twisted way she taught she was teaching her!
@@ronaldcustard4636 They try to make her out as some big time killer in this universe but all she kills are bags of Doritos and cans of Coke, her biggest fear is a treadmill. Plus, I agree that her hair is bad everywhere she goes.
Exactly. I think Kirk missed this when talking to mirror Spock. Even when Spock did reform (must have been a herculean task), others took advantage and enslaved the Terrans. The mirror universe is savage and brutal and no emperor/ empress can afford to be weak
@@googleuser7454 I think not only is the Terran Empire brutal, but all other races too. Even Worf who supposedly is the most honorable felt petty and sadistic in the mirror.
@@UNSF I got that idea as well. Even mirror Phlox was sadistic. Not sure if it extends to all of the races (Vulcans didn't seem too violent but they were subjugated so it is hard to tell). It's hard to know if this is in response to the Terrans or if the universe itself has a negative quality to it. Fascinating to think about
@@ashlynnp.9609 She's by no means "remarkable". Definitely good. But also not remarkable. I don't hate blacks, where I come from there's no history of racism, but I'm not sure if that would fit into your narrative, so justify this however you want.
@@The_Greedy_Orphan, Sonequa Martin-Green needs to get acting lessons from Avery Brooks. He is a professor at Rutgers University in the Mason Gross school.
@@ArturKwaszyn Poland? No racism? Okay. I'm not gonna pretend to know what your guy's situation is up there, but I do know that you guys have literal LGBTQ+ Exclusion zones. Your prime minister is also vehemently against gay marriage. I don't wanna be mean, but I don't really see Poland as a country that should be listed as an example of an accepting country. Also, now that I think about it, wasn't it Poland that also had that far right rally? You know, the one where 60,000+ people protested and chanted anti-semitic things? In 2016, racially motivated crimes had increased to over 1600, doubling the amount three years prior. Also, the fact that you refuse to say "black people" should be more than enough proof. Saying "Blacks" isn't okay.
cant help but feel that TNG crew were serving on a star fleet vessel. with rules and military traditions. with a temperament befitting a military officer. this stern fixation created a set of rules for the show thatallowed the characters to develop inside of. And now with no sign of those rules the characters cant grow. they will always be filling some agenda unbefitting star fleet.
In some parts yes regards to curtain society issue I'm not against i just don't think it's something that needs to be on a series such as this people of all ages watch and some content shouldn't be allowed
Why do I cringe every single time Michael has to do any real acting, shes just soooo terrible. I loved her in walking dead though, Sasha I believe, but the writing for Discovery is SOO bad.
Tilly's facial
response after Burnham tells her to "rot in hell, birch" is another golden Discovery moment.
And the response by Tilly was very kinky! 😊
Tilly has all of my favorite moments, with Georgiou coming a close second.
Picard in the hands of the Cardassians is still the greatest torture episode in Star Trek history. There has never been another episode acted with more drama, heart or believability. "THERE ARE..... FOUR LIGHTS!"
Someone mentioned that discovery was garbage to a point it does a few things all the other series should have done and do without for one narration of the captain or other crew member personal logs and the holo communication I think it got better when I saw curtain things on discovery I didn't watch Picard some parts looked stupid but not guests apperences like hugh what is your opinion
@@brianlindee220 I stopped after Nemesis. I did try but things are as fucked up as Star Wars (minus Mandalorian). This scene I am talking about is fromStar Trek TNG
"What lights?!"
They made a parody of that scene on tng recut but he was in the holodeck and that was the program he was running fifty shades of Picard
I loved the look on captain killy face when burnham told her rot in hell bitch priceless
Detmer being very clever to covertly tell Michael to lose the battle to win the war.
This is more impressive (visually) than Mirror Kirk's Agonizer.
I read somewhere that when the writers were working on the TNG Picard torture episode, they consulted with Amnesty Int'l. to get the scenes authentic.
I read that too.
I love captain Killy. She is hot, badass and most impressive woman then her soft-hearted counterpart.
The face Tilly makes @0:35: "Ima show you a rotten bitch..."
Why does the mirror universe at this point in time, have less effective Torture chambers than in Archer's time period? Those chambers could keep you in pain without you passing out.
Maybe its just too powerful, or just done that way by choise
It's because this show is not canon in my book. They really should just put this in the JJ Abrams universe.
Maybe passing out gives brief respites that exemplifies the pain part even more...
You got to keep in mind your talking about another terran empire in another universe not this one
It's a feature not a bug. Risk of death makes these booth more scarier. Lorca appears to almost die from the agony chamber.
Strange and disturbing how the torture of this character seems so pleasing to some people.
It is ironic that some people seem to derive humour or pleasure from the suffering of others. Even though Philippa Georgiou spent time observing a Starfleet crew she still tortured her own daughter. I realize in some twisted way she taught she was teaching her!
Psychopathy is the norm among humans in the mirror universe.
apparently, in no universe, does Tilly have a good hair cut.
Agreed: _Captain Killy's_ hairdo is reminiscent of the blond singer from the 70s-80s band, _The B-52s. _
I thought the terran captain killy hair was fine Silvia tilly could have had her straight as a redhead and looked not like she just got out of bed
Yes, and overweight in both universes.
@@Martian74 Go back to Mars
@@ronaldcustard4636 They try to make her out as some big time killer in this universe but all she kills are bags of Doritos and cans of Coke, her biggest fear is a treadmill. Plus, I agree that her hair is bad everywhere she goes.
The empress did grow weak. There's no way she can change the Mirror Universe and they'll kill her for trying.
Exactly. I think Kirk missed this when talking to mirror Spock. Even when Spock did reform (must have been a herculean task), others took advantage and enslaved the Terrans. The mirror universe is savage and brutal and no emperor/ empress can afford to be weak
@@googleuser7454 I think not only is the Terran Empire brutal, but all other races too. Even Worf who supposedly is the most honorable felt petty and sadistic in the mirror.
@@UNSF I got that idea as well. Even mirror Phlox was sadistic. Not sure if it extends to all of the races (Vulcans didn't seem too violent but they were subjugated so it is hard to tell). It's hard to know if this is in response to the Terrans or if the universe itself has a negative quality to it. Fascinating to think about
1:21 that's hot. I need a cigarette.
3:03 seems like dr. beverly crusher just came from that agonizer. Hahaha!
Someone said the science behind the agony Booth is possible but I don't know if it's true
It already has been: it's called the _electric chair,_ but set at a lower voltage; however, like a electric chair, the agony booth can be set to kill!
The agonizer is much more than just simply passing electricity through the body
The microwave area denial weapons at low enough settings, rumor has it when set high enough in a small container it can liquify a body.
Don't give the US government any ideas.
@@ItsCoreyLynxxYall Whose to say they haven't already.
2:37 Crack is a terrible thing.
演者たち、この回、面白かっただろうなあ！
みんな、嬉々としています！
EXCELLENT MOTIVATION AND LEARNING EXPERIENCE
Ill watch it tommorow too.
This entire series is torture.
How many lights do you see
Sonequa Martin-Green's lack of acting skills were on full display in these two episodes.
Just say what you wanna say. Say that you actually just hate her because she's black. She's a remarkable actress.
@@ashlynnp.9609 She's by no means "remarkable". Definitely good. But also not remarkable. I don't hate blacks, where I come from there's no history of racism, but I'm not sure if that would fit into your narrative, so justify this however you want.
Avery Brooks, now there was a remarkable actor, her, not so much. With her it's just crying or patronising speeches.
@@The_Greedy_Orphan, Sonequa Martin-Green needs to get acting lessons from Avery Brooks. He is a professor at Rutgers University in the Mason Gross school.
@@ArturKwaszyn
Poland? No racism? Okay. I'm not gonna pretend to know what your guy's situation is up there, but I do know that you guys have literal LGBTQ+ Exclusion zones. Your prime minister is also vehemently against gay marriage. I don't wanna be mean, but I don't really see Poland as a country that should be listed as an example of an accepting country.
Also, now that I think about it, wasn't it Poland that also had that far right rally? You know, the one where 60,000+ people protested and chanted anti-semitic things?
In 2016, racially motivated crimes had increased to over 1600, doubling the amount three years prior.
Also, the fact that you refuse to say "black people" should be more than enough proof. Saying "Blacks" isn't okay.
Video Serial Super ❤️❤😮😮 .
The only Discovery episode i at least somewhat like, i don't know why.
Ill watch it tommorow
Michael comes of in this scene as your willful stubborn child clinging to the hope someone would come and rescue her
@@brianlindee220 im imagining how did happened that the REAL michael has a long hair than the other michael (PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
cant help but feel that TNG crew were serving on a star fleet vessel. with rules and military traditions. with a temperament befitting a military officer. this stern fixation created a set of rules for the show thatallowed the characters to develop inside of. And now with no sign of those rules the characters cant grow. they will always be filling some agenda unbefitting star fleet.
THEIR choices ..NEVER YOURS. IF You don't like it..DON"T watch it.
@@Robby4291 not sure why you are angry. Perhaps you should watch less tv?
Not so bad after all, is it? Hum.
oh no .. cringe !
Star Trek has gone to shit
NO one is forcing YOU to...
@@Robby4291 poor baby
In some parts yes regards to curtain society issue I'm not against i just don't think it's something that needs to be on a series such as this people of all ages watch and some content shouldn't be allowed
Why do I cringe every single time Michael has to do any real acting, shes just soooo terrible. I loved her in walking dead though, Sasha I believe, but the writing for Discovery is SOO bad.
Looks generic and cheap
So are the comments..LIKE yours.
@@Robby4291 Quit defending this shitshow. This isn't real Trek; this is fake Trek.
@@dannyknightblade4592 okay. Doesn’t mean people can’t still enjoy it
@@asonofhoruslegionary Sure, people can enjoy it if they want to. It's simply not real Star Trek.