I love how this one moment in one episode perfectly shows why Heavy Cruisers are sought after postings. Ozawa's ship took multiple consecutive hits from the large Spheres where the lighter cruisers were destroyed entirely by a single hit from the large Spheres. just goes to show the power scaling between Light, Medium, and Heavy cruisers
I like the detail of showing the California flying past the wreckage of a ship of its class when they first see the station. Just because you have a big ship doesn't make you invincible
The microsecond that you see the destruction, you reorganize your ships in a defensive formation to deal with possible incoming threats. Like Star Trek, they wait too long to get into a defensive posture.
defensive posture or not, they were both outnumbered, and their ships outclassed. without defensive geography, there was no chance they could've warded off the Kaylon in a straight fight
i remember their smaller craft used that tactic in the battle for earth. in that battle, several tore right through the union ships without a scratch. the structure of their ships are likely intended for pure combat, so the outer ring are probably some kind of armor shell specifically for that reason
Nice to finally see a beam weapon. Now all they need is to figure out how to shoot backwards... Aft weapons would be so incredibly helpful in that chase
@@dalethelander3781Cylons pre-date the Expanse by 11 years. That said- yeah Cylons were a joke. Why? Because from the start the show's into ended with the hook of "And [the cylons] have a plan". But over time it became abundantly clear there never was a plan, and that was just a bunch of BS, because the writers didn't have a concrete idea of what they were doing with the story.
@@koalabrownie But nuBSG became the most popular SF series since (IMO) Star Trek DS9. The Expanse hasn't reached the level of popularity and acclaim nuBSG has. BTW, the issues woth the Cylons' plan were addressed in the movie "The Plan."
@@dalethelander3781 BSG was certainly popular, can't argue with you there. It penetrated the mass market which sci fi rarely does. It fell very flat over time for me though. I've not even heard of the movie you're talking about, but I also doubt I would seek it out. Not really interested in people trying to retcon their failings. Last thing I watched was the prequel webseries with young adam. Blood & Chrome? It was pretty decent.
Haven't seen a well-executed space battle like this since watching DS9's 'Sacrifice of Angels.' Kudos for "Orville" writers and show-runners for getting 'Star Trek' right 😉
Indeed, i miss the good old days of real Star Trek. I know it not fair to compare this show to DS9 or TNG as it is its own entity and should be judged accordingly. But considering the awful state of the Star Trek franchise, thanks to Kurtzman and his goons, it is understandable why so many make the comparison.
Well executed? It was a ship poorly set up for combat flying around a debris field being shot at by basically chunky fighters as stationary larger ships miss most of their beam shots. The majority of Orville battles aren't that amazing, it's just a bunch of ships zipping around like bees with front facing weapons only for some reason and absolutely no regard for intertia or mass which does apply in space! That's why Starfleet ships don't zip around at crazy speeds, the strain would snap parts of the ship off. Which is why despite very few actually understanding it, the 32nd century ships had the magnetic connection between ship segments, flexibility and no strain on physical joints means swift turns at far greater speeds.
@@adambrown6669 I don't know about the magnetic bond mumbo-jumbo. How many times has Voyager, Defiant or Enterprise get hit by energy dampeners? Whoops just lost your warp nacelles. In engineering we call that a lack of fail security. This happens when we design our margins too thin...ironicaly more matter creates better bonds, distributes heat from weapons fire better and despite what you may think about magnetic fields removing load stress from the rest of the ship, the opposite is true because of the EM bosons are still allowing loads (momentum and inertia ) to flow through the zero spin scalar fields.
The DS9 battles were many things, but well-executed is not one of them. Ship scales were all over the place, inconsistent and often nonsensical...shields were sometimes there, sometimes not, sometimes cheaply excused away with shield-ignoring weaponry instead of actually shown to be bypassed...relative ship strengths were whatever the hell the current author needed for the plot (that was inherited from TNG), without rhyme or reason...the movement of the ships, especially early on in the show, was just toy-like and weird and made no sense for HUGE heavy vessels in empty space...I never got the love for the battle stuff in that show. It's just infuriating to watch. DS9 had strengths, the battles weren't among them.
"Space....The Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the Starship Orville. Its continuing mission: To continue the sci-fi adventures inspired by Gene Roddenberry's visions. To seek first contacts with strange new aliens and civilizations. To boldly go where no 'Nu Trek' has gone before!"
Too bad series three has proved that to be total b*ll*cks. Eight episodes in and only two have not been connected to past stories. Have you actually watched Strange New Worlds series one? Now that's nearer to old Trek than any of Seth's recent garbage.
With the triple nacelles at the rear of the ship? It's hard enough to fly a shuttle out of the bay because of those things, let alone risking firing torpedoes between them during a battle when the ship is spinning all over the place...
@@Karuiko Even though I rewaatched the first two seasons before season 3 came out, it's still been over 2 months since then and I'd forgotten that scene lol
I know they add the camera shaking to make it more dramatic but if the crew of a spacecraft were able to feel the effects of a energy, the resultant shock would cause serious if not fatal injuries!
When I saw Gordon get hit with that energy surge and saw multiple Gordons in the air before disappearing, I thought that there would be Gordons in every era of time on earth.
I'd wanna see Orville with the budget and vfx quality of trek first before that. If Seth could give us Orville stories with the budget and quality of Strange new worlds, whilst maintaining the light heartedness Star trek has always had. Then maybe. But if he makes all the ships fight like Orville ships I'll be forced to commit a randomly selected felony
What I do not understand is, when the overload happened and Maloy was sent flying back, there were multiples of him which implies several versions of him. I wish they had expanded on that.
They had important cargo they didn't want the kaylon getting their hands on. That's why the kaylon put them in a tractor beam instead of blowing them up. If the fought, they risked losing/getting captured and the kaylon would've gotten their stuff. Plus, it's an ambush; they were caught unaware. If a crocodile ambushes a lion, yeah it might struggle and and fight back little but the main objective is to try and get away. Sure they can both fight but it's an ambush. The lion was unprepared and took on injuries. They're likely not going to win if they decide to stick it out
@sabrewolf4129 and still it isn't logical in the slightest. bridgecrew runs to do x or y, no that would be done by crew the orville somehow get's to dictate galactic events and union policy, even declaring and organising wars (based on earlier episodes) they also consort with the highest members of various societies and routinely dictate what is right or wrong to them even going as far as to insult or treathen them if they disagree (which they did during a warcounsil with primary and his general staff even?) the show is entertaining (not that entertaining either) but from all i've seen it is a posterchild for neoliberal ideology in the international relations theory sense. ("a galaxy can only function if our base ideology is adopted by all" being the main issue here.)
Is this the one where they screwed Gordon out of a perfect life and kids? Ed, I cannot forgive you for that. I like Gordon amd dont want to see him go but I would have been insanely happy for that to have been the end of his story arc.
@@salazar4810 I know but you just know that's something that he'd put in his report to Ed and the crew would talk about. Whoevers in the captain's chair I justvwabt them to say..... Gordon! Yes sir? Hug the donkey......YES SIR!!! 😉🤣
In the Orville you see the ships in stupidly close formation to each other and often colliding with each other. My theory is that the energy weapons are very powerful even at far distance but are most effective at stupidly close range and because of how advance sheild technology is, the only way to attack a ship is to be no further than a few 100 meters.
Question: Why doesn't the Orville just shoot the tractor beam? I mean, they have energy weapons, a tractor beam would have to effect on what those fire
It's starting to get annoying how useless they are against the Kaylon. It seems like all the Kaylon would've had to do is wait a day and they would've won. In season 2's battle it was shown that the Kaylon's real advantage was numbers, and the Union whittled them down by attrition so by the time the Krill arrived they had to retreat. Now? They dominate every fight with equal numbers. It's pathetic, the Union doesn't even get one kill in while getting reamed up against the wall. Why are the Kaylon even bothering being sneaky? Just waltz up to Earth again and kill everything.
If anything isn't it the opposite? There's no way the Kaylon outnumber a multitude of other species, especially since they themselves only use their one solar system until recently. The reason why their so hard to defeat is the quality rather than quantity, the Kaylon are more organized and advanced then most species, so the only way to defeat them is to outnumber them.
@@captaindrake1235 I'm referring to the battle of Earth where they arrived with overwhelming force and hoped to individually obliterate each faction. While they are also more advanced the fact remains that the Union was able to fight back, it's just that their rate of attrition was greater than the Kaylon's. In every season 3 battle however the Kaylon wipe the floor with them, it's not even a contest.
To be fair. They were outnumbered and those science class vessels in no way a match against kaylon vessels. The only thing that can fight those Kaylon vessels are the Leviathan class Heavy Cruisers.
Id add that the defence of the Earth was called out at the last minute, so at the time it was all they could get at short notice. On top of that, this was planned ambush. Of course there would be more enemy ships prepared, than the escort would have. I must say, I love the Orville space battles... they realy do look better and have more going on in them, than we usualy see in Star Wars and Star Trek.
It would be great if Seth would show reruns in the summer for over the air tv, for us that don't have streaming TV, enjoy watching season 1 when it was Ota. Thanks
I truly enjoy the show, but all the fights just feel like one sided beat downs against the Planetary Union. In any given fight we see tons of their ships blowing up but hardly any of who they are fighting, I hope at some point its more even
I personally like that though. Kaylon is "just" 1 planet but the Union is a collection. It's perfectly reasonable that the Union has more ships but their technology isn't as impressive on each one. I also like that the fighting styles are different, for example ramming making a lot of sense for AI who can be downloaded back to Kaylon or who have different calculations in their value of life. It's not like the Union don't have serious ships, the battle cruiser here took an absolute pounding, whilst Kaylon ships are destroyed often enough to give hope. You might need a 4-5 : 1 advantage to win a space battle, but it is winnable.
Nobody wants to talk ábout that its not normal that the keylons knew there the device will be before even they are there, and that they knew that the device was on board of the orville? Or even knew which ship is the orville? i mean common, they really had no reason to script that in : 3:53 , i think it was more to distract from a much more important information
ST TOS Constitution-class starships. Rearward-firing weapons weren't introduced into ST until suggested by NASA consultant Jesco Von Puttkamer on ST TMP.
Problems with their ship was that there are no turrets. They'd have to shoot from the front, which would mean they are vulnerable to attacks unless they manage to break free from the dogfight and do a somersault and shoot the enemy.
Union ships are both extremelt maneuverable, especially with the right helmsman, like Lt. Gordon Malloy, or if not, they have torpedos that can engage in all directions
@@more-reasons6655 Maneuverability, not speed. Even in space there's G-Forces and Inertia. Take a quote from Mass Effect, "That thing just pulled a turn that would shear any of our ships in half."
indeed. 1:01 This scene completely reminds me of the one from "The Best of Both Worlds", ep 2 when The Enterprise arrives at Wolf 359 and sees all those destroyed Starfleet ships that had been destroyed by the Borg.
one and only universe where space battles look like created by 10yo kids... Nothing here makes sense: tactics, manouvers, very idea of waging a battle in these conditions. And this is why I love it: I just feel that screenwriters really tried hard to make worst possible decisions to stay within comfort area...
Anyone else hoping that the new "ensign" (Seth's current girlfriend) died in this attack so we would stop her "mean girl acting method" ruining episode momentum?
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I love how this one moment in one episode perfectly shows why Heavy Cruisers are sought after postings.
Ozawa's ship took multiple consecutive hits from the large Spheres where the lighter cruisers were destroyed entirely by a single hit from the large Spheres.
just goes to show the power scaling between Light, Medium, and Heavy cruisers
Those were science vessels......
Stick with heavy cruisers for now.
I like the detail of showing the California flying past the wreckage of a ship of its class when they first see the station. Just because you have a big ship doesn't make you invincible
I love how the blue lights of the ship lit up the gas inside the nebula. Wonderful attention to details!
The microsecond that you see the destruction, you reorganize your ships in a defensive formation to deal with possible incoming threats.
Like Star Trek, they wait too long to get into a defensive posture.
defensive posture or not, they were both outnumbered, and their ships outclassed. without defensive geography, there was no chance they could've warded off the Kaylon in a straight fight
I love how the Kaylon are okay ramming other ships. Shows how they view themselves as expendable.
agree that's how they'll die out
They're as ruthless as the Dominion/Jem'hadar in DS9 (remember when they rammed and destroyed USS Oddysey in their first conflict with Starfleet?)
@@LGranthamsHeir Yup!
Perhaps no concept of death..👵🇦🇺🇺🇸
i remember their smaller craft used that tactic in the battle for earth. in that battle, several tore right through the union ships without a scratch. the structure of their ships are likely intended for pure combat, so the outer ring are probably some kind of armor shell specifically for that reason
I feel like the Orville has become a serious show.
Nice to finally see a beam weapon.
Now all they need is to figure out how to shoot backwards... Aft weapons would be so incredibly helpful in that chase
they could hit the back of their own ship
An array is better. Like federation ships.
they have aft torpedos
@@aronnemcsik not if the weapons are mounted ON the back of the ship
@@IRMentat I meant those weird hanging parts where the thrusters are at.
The Orville is just fantastic this season it has not disappointed one bit I can’t wait for a new episode.
* Show
Technically, it is a new show, but honestly it is just a season 4 lol
@@simply2187 *season 3
@@simply2187 *season. Technically it's a season. Quit trying to sound smart.
So it’s safe to assume the Kaylon have broken the Unions top secret comm cyphers. They might want to look into that.
Get out alive, then figure out what went wrong
Damn the Kaylon feel like an actual threat. Now that’s a feeling I haven’t felt from Sci-fi since the expanse.
well the expanse is only half a year ago so not that much time :D.
Are Cylons a joke to you?
@@dalethelander3781Cylons pre-date the Expanse by 11 years. That said- yeah Cylons were a joke. Why? Because from the start the show's into ended with the hook of "And [the cylons] have a plan". But over time it became abundantly clear there never was a plan, and that was just a bunch of BS, because the writers didn't have a concrete idea of what they were doing with the story.
@@koalabrownie But nuBSG became the most popular SF series since (IMO) Star Trek DS9. The Expanse hasn't reached the level of popularity and acclaim nuBSG has.
BTW, the issues woth the Cylons' plan were addressed in the movie "The Plan."
@@dalethelander3781 BSG was certainly popular, can't argue with you there. It penetrated the mass market which sci fi rarely does. It fell very flat over time for me though.
I've not even heard of the movie you're talking about, but I also doubt I would seek it out. Not really interested in people trying to retcon their failings.
Last thing I watched was the prequel webseries with young adam. Blood & Chrome? It was pretty decent.
So they accepted a zoom video call that occupied the pilots entire lign of sight in the middle of a debris field followed by enemy fighters.
I doubt the pilot uses the viewscreen to pilot lol
“I have a bad feeling about this.” (And the Captain just looks at her, as if to say “Did you have to say that?”) 😱
If Star Wars has taught us anything, do not say "I have a bad feeling this" when things feel uneasy! You know something bad will happen!
Haven't seen a well-executed space battle like this since watching DS9's 'Sacrifice of Angels.' Kudos for "Orville" writers and show-runners for getting 'Star Trek' right 😉
That CGI monstrosity in Sacrifice of Angels was not greatness. Call to Arms and Way of the Warrior was truly what a Sci Fi battle should look like
Indeed, i miss the good old days of real Star Trek. I know it not fair to compare this show to DS9 or TNG as it is its own entity and should be judged accordingly. But considering the awful state of the Star Trek franchise, thanks to Kurtzman and his goons, it is understandable why so many make the comparison.
Well executed? It was a ship poorly set up for combat flying around a debris field being shot at by basically chunky fighters as stationary larger ships miss most of their beam shots.
The majority of Orville battles aren't that amazing, it's just a bunch of ships zipping around like bees with front facing weapons only for some reason and absolutely no regard for intertia or mass which does apply in space! That's why Starfleet ships don't zip around at crazy speeds, the strain would snap parts of the ship off. Which is why despite very few actually understanding it, the 32nd century ships had the magnetic connection between ship segments, flexibility and no strain on physical joints means swift turns at far greater speeds.
@@adambrown6669 I don't know about the magnetic bond mumbo-jumbo. How many times has Voyager, Defiant or Enterprise get hit by energy dampeners? Whoops just lost your warp nacelles.
In engineering we call that a lack of fail security. This happens when we design our margins too thin...ironicaly more matter creates better bonds, distributes heat from weapons fire better and despite what you may think about magnetic fields removing load stress from the rest of the ship, the opposite is true because of the EM bosons are still allowing loads (momentum and inertia ) to flow through the zero spin scalar fields.
The DS9 battles were many things, but well-executed is not one of them. Ship scales were all over the place, inconsistent and often nonsensical...shields were sometimes there, sometimes not, sometimes cheaply excused away with shield-ignoring weaponry instead of actually shown to be bypassed...relative ship strengths were whatever the hell the current author needed for the plot (that was inherited from TNG), without rhyme or reason...the movement of the ships, especially early on in the show, was just toy-like and weird and made no sense for HUGE heavy vessels in empty space...I never got the love for the battle stuff in that show. It's just infuriating to watch. DS9 had strengths, the battles weren't among them.
"Space....The Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the Starship Orville. Its continuing mission: To continue the sci-fi adventures inspired by Gene Roddenberry's visions. To seek first contacts with strange new aliens and civilizations. To boldly go where no 'Nu Trek' has gone before!"
Too bad series three has proved that to be total b*ll*cks. Eight episodes in and only two have not been connected to past stories. Have you actually watched Strange New Worlds series one? Now that's nearer to old Trek than any of Seth's recent garbage.
@@stevkyt2374 Strange New Worlds sucks.
I quit this after S2…
I know. I love Orville, but I can't believe they didn't get sued.
@@xaviervega468imagine being sad and pathetic, lucky for you, you don't need to
I counted eight different Gordons being thrown from the blast, maybe more....... that storyline isn't over yet!!
It ain’t!!!
Would it kill the Union to put aft torpedo launchers and 360 degree point cannons around the ship to hit anything not directly in front of them?
Thought most of the torpedo launchers were already aft?
With the triple nacelles at the rear of the ship? It's hard enough to fly a shuttle out of the bay because of those things, let alone risking firing torpedoes between them during a battle when the ship is spinning all over the place...
@@BYERE Look up "The Orville fire all torpedos"
@@Karuiko Even though I rewaatched the first two seasons before season 3 came out, it's still been over 2 months since then and I'd forgotten that scene lol
Union seems to have a strong tradition in designing ships that look good. All other aspects are irrelevant...
I know they add the camera shaking to make it more dramatic but if the crew of a spacecraft were able to feel the effects of a energy, the resultant shock would cause serious if not fatal injuries!
When I saw Gordon get hit with that energy surge and saw multiple Gordons in the air before disappearing, I thought that there would be Gordons in every era of time on earth.
I wish they just gave creative control of star trek to seth.
Maybe you want to watch Star Trek - Strange New Worlds. It`s actually really good.
@@houinkyoma8233 Maybe you should watch Major Grin.
Yes, I too yearn for a time in the near future when we'll have actual Star Trek, should Seth gain CBS' confidence.
I'd wanna see Orville with the budget and vfx quality of trek first before that. If Seth could give us Orville stories with the budget and quality of Strange new worlds, whilst maintaining the light heartedness Star trek has always had. Then maybe. But if he makes all the ships fight like Orville ships I'll be forced to commit a randomly selected felony
Only if he doesn't push his current girlfriend into a role that she cannot act in......wait, that annoying ensign will be captain soon, lol
Seems like every episode of the season has a huge space battle!
3:38 "You will surrender the device or you will die. Prepare to be boarded." 🤖🤖🤖🤖
People just calmly walking down the corridors, watching the battle outside, not a care in the world… But the lights are so pretty! ❤😂
Damn this show has gotten good.
Damn that looks better than the recent Star Trek stuff.
HELL YEAH 😂
I always get serious Andromeda vibes looking at the Orville. The ship design is very similar.
It does.
not even close
I get Farscape Moya vibes, except for it`s not organic
@@descendinguniverse It's not Andromeda or Moya, not even close.
@@sabrewolf4129 Piss off. You said it once already.
What I do not understand is, when the overload happened and Maloy was sent flying back, there were multiples of him which implies several versions of him. I wish they had expanded on that.
I think it was showing him being displaced in the space time continuum....
Proof of a multiverse.
Wait, did the Union ships even fight back? They just ran around getting shot at... They didn't even fire back....
They had important cargo they didn't want the kaylon getting their hands on. That's why the kaylon put them in a tractor beam instead of blowing them up.
If the fought, they risked losing/getting captured and the kaylon would've gotten their stuff.
Plus, it's an ambush; they were caught unaware. If a crocodile ambushes a lion, yeah it might struggle and and fight back little but the main objective is to try and get away.
Sure they can both fight but it's an ambush. The lion was unprepared and took on injuries. They're likely not going to win if they decide to stick it out
Union ships need about a five-to-one numerical advantage to engage the Kaylon successfully. Better to retreat with the valuable cargo and regroup.
Why do people keep comparing this to star trek? I appreciate that it's an omage, but it has legs of its own now.
This is x1000 times better than what they try to call Star Trek these days.
DAMN......THANK U
Maybe...Because it is based on the" Star Trek Series",especially TNG🤔
@sabrewolf4129 and still it isn't logical in the slightest.
bridgecrew runs to do x or y, no that would be done by crew
the orville somehow get's to dictate galactic events and union policy, even declaring and organising wars (based on earlier episodes)
they also consort with the highest members of various societies and routinely dictate what is right or wrong to them even going as far as to insult or treathen them if they disagree (which they did during a warcounsil with primary and his general staff even?)
the show is entertaining (not that entertaining either) but from all i've seen it is a posterchild for neoliberal ideology in the international relations theory sense. ("a galaxy can only function if our base ideology is adopted by all" being the main issue here.)
"Captain, a convoy of bread baskets is dropping out of quantum"
Imagine if a time displaced sandwich appeared on the engineering console during the fight.
So none of their ships have weapons? Except the bad guys? Didn't see them firing once in entire clip.
Dont ask for an evasive pattern , just tell Gordon to DODGE EVERYTHING!
Is this the one where they screwed Gordon out of a perfect life and kids?
Ed, I cannot forgive you for that. I like Gordon amd dont want to see him go but I would have been insanely happy for that to have been the end of his story arc.
While I still can't help but hear FG Brian from Seth's voice, his authoritative 'captain' voice and commands here feel SO much like classic star trek.
9 minute scene Better than 2 seasons of Picard and 4 seasons of STD 😉
Yea Star trek got into woke cancel twiter kinde of bullshit. But Strange new worlds is very good.
Yeah...NO NOT GOOD AT ALL😂
But nowhere near as good as 4 seasons of BSG.
"4 Seasons of STD" Sounds like a new Shades of Gray that I definitely don't want to watch... 😅😱🤢
I thought this show was a comedy, but I'm not complaining this is really cool!
I hope there's another Kaylon battle where Ed orders Gordon to Hug the Donkey
I think that original order came from Bortus. ;) :D
@@salazar4810 I know but you just know that's something that he'd put in his report to Ed and the crew would talk about. Whoevers in the captain's chair I justvwabt them to say..... Gordon! Yes sir? Hug the donkey......YES SIR!!! 😉🤣
that's would be awesome
In the Orville you see the ships in stupidly close formation to each other and often colliding with each other. My theory is that the energy weapons are very powerful even at far distance but are most effective at stupidly close range and because of how advance sheild technology is, the only way to attack a ship is to be no further than a few 100 meters.
I can't believe Brian Griffin forced the quantum core to overload. Such a gambit.
Question: Why doesn't the Orville just shoot the tractor beam? I mean, they have energy weapons, a tractor beam would have to effect on what those fire
presumably the kaylon's shields are still up which would mean that firing at them would do nothing but use precious power with nothing to show for it
Do they not have aft phasers/lasers/shooty firey blast things
It's starting to get annoying how useless they are against the Kaylon. It seems like all the Kaylon would've had to do is wait a day and they would've won.
In season 2's battle it was shown that the Kaylon's real advantage was numbers, and the Union whittled them down by attrition so by the time the Krill arrived they had to retreat.
Now? They dominate every fight with equal numbers. It's pathetic, the Union doesn't even get one kill in while getting reamed up against the wall. Why are the Kaylon even bothering being sneaky? Just waltz up to Earth again and kill everything.
If anything isn't it the opposite? There's no way the Kaylon outnumber a multitude of other species, especially since they themselves only use their one solar system until recently. The reason why their so hard to defeat is the quality rather than quantity, the Kaylon are more organized and advanced then most species, so the only way to defeat them is to outnumber them.
@@captaindrake1235 I'm referring to the battle of Earth where they arrived with overwhelming force and hoped to individually obliterate each faction.
While they are also more advanced the fact remains that the Union was able to fight back, it's just that their rate of attrition was greater than the Kaylon's.
In every season 3 battle however the Kaylon wipe the floor with them, it's not even a contest.
To be fair. They were outnumbered and those science class vessels in no way a match against kaylon vessels. The only thing that can fight those Kaylon vessels are the Leviathan class Heavy Cruisers.
Id add that the defence of the Earth was called out at the last minute, so at the time it was all they could get at short notice.
On top of that, this was planned ambush. Of course there would be more enemy ships prepared, than the escort would have.
I must say, I love the Orville space battles... they realy do look better and have more going on in them, than we usualy see in Star Wars and Star Trek.
@@captaindrake1235 but yet they took over the galaxy in the alternate timeline.
Well done, captain Brian!
It would be great if Seth would show reruns in the summer for over the air tv, for us that don't have streaming TV, enjoy watching season 1 when it was Ota. Thanks
Wish i knew where to wat h this, ive only seen 3 episodes
5:00 my dude got copied, pasted, and deleted 😂
Those sparks are the most ridiculous thing 😂😂
That a fourth season of this fantastic series has not yet been ordered,is scandalous to say the least.And when the first Oville cinema film?
Red Alert! Shields up!
"Fire photon torpedoes, full spread!!"
I truly enjoy the show, but all the fights just feel like one sided beat downs against the Planetary Union. In any given fight we see tons of their ships blowing up but hardly any of who they are fighting, I hope at some point its more even
I personally like that though. Kaylon is "just" 1 planet but the Union is a collection. It's perfectly reasonable that the Union has more ships but their technology isn't as impressive on each one. I also like that the fighting styles are different, for example ramming making a lot of sense for AI who can be downloaded back to Kaylon or who have different calculations in their value of life.
It's not like the Union don't have serious ships, the battle cruiser here took an absolute pounding, whilst Kaylon ships are destroyed often enough to give hope. You might need a 4-5 : 1 advantage to win a space battle, but it is winnable.
The Orville is getting better and better Nu trek going backwards........
4:09 meanwhile no other Union ship tries to help the Orville.
OMG, Seth Macfarlane acting?!? I still can't get past Peter Griffin and Stewie when I look at him. Hahaha . . .
"hang on to something" 😂🤣🤣🤣
Why doesn't anyone fire torpedoes at tractor beam? It's pull is so strong it has to hit, and then damages it so you can haul ass.
Seems the Planetary Union designs their ships to resemble an arrowhead with an IUD attached.
That was on TV and they canceled it so how can they constantly be 2nd and 3rd season
I guess some rear firing weapons would be a good idea?
This a Star Trek Spinoff?
Yes
Why didn't the California just....shoot the Orville free from the tractor beam?
Nobody wants to talk ábout that its not normal that the keylons knew there the device will be before even they are there, and that they knew that the device was on board of the orville? Or even knew which ship is the orville? i mean common, they really had no reason to script that in : 3:53 , i think it was more to distract from a much more important information
What channel is this series on ?
season 3 is hulu only while the first two seasons are probably in Disney+
Those ships really need some aft facing weapons. I still don't understand how they steer ships with buttons hahah
Best comedy of the week.
Who builds a spaceship that can only fire in 1 direction?
ST TOS Constitution-class starships.
Rearward-firing weapons weren't introduced into ST until suggested by NASA consultant Jesco Von Puttkamer on ST TMP.
almost better than star treck only 50 seasons late but content on par and some times better
At least this is better than those cheezy "Fan films. "
That was one hell of a fight
this show is good.
I was under the ipression that Orville is a comedy ( I've admittedly not watched it yet). Am i incorrect?
FOX started imposing their will on Seth in season 2 to make it more serious.
I find the lack of rear weapons arrays disturbing....
Problems with their ship was that there are no turrets. They'd have to shoot from the front, which would mean they are vulnerable to attacks unless they manage to break free from the dogfight and do a somersault and shoot the enemy.
Union ships are both extremelt maneuverable, especially with the right helmsman, like Lt. Gordon Malloy, or if not, they have torpedos that can engage in all directions
Convoy?! A Convoy determines it's a group of Freighters or something along those lines......that's a Fleet......
Why didn’t the union use Issac to produce more effective weapons
The Kaylon wanted to send a special unit back to 1984.....
I have a bad feeling about this is a reference to Star Wars right?
Isn't Kaylon a Star Trek race?
The kazon are
The Cylons - Dr Who 🤷🏼♂️
Bring on Season 4 of the Orville.
Why the heck are kids allowed on the Orville if it’s a military vehicle???
So why does EVERY ship only fire forward??? This is a MAJOR tactical flaw. Just dont get in front of anybody??
Love this show but imagine if the ships could fire backwards. Might be useful in battle lol
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"ORVILLE," the Great POPCORN MAKER!!
( Reddenbacher).
0:39 Anakin is that you?
Daang look at that Menuverability
Not being an Orville fan, a lot of the dialog feels extremely scripted. Does this clear up?
weapon's reaction to the quantum discharge only affects humans, clothes and guns. not the set ;)
I'm worried for what happened with Maloy
Visuals are fantastic but I don't like how its more of the same large starships maneuvering like fighter planes. These are big lumbering masses.
You do realise the earth moves through space faster than a fighter plane. What does the mass have to do with their speed here?
@@more-reasons6655 Maneuverability, not speed. Even in space there's G-Forces and Inertia. Take a quote from Mass Effect, "That thing just pulled a turn that would shear any of our ships in half."
ЗВ1 победили ораев и забрали их корабли. Где посмотреть?
No wonder the union is losing,theyre not shooting back.
Why they make planetary union ships so fucking useless. 😂
Reminds me of Wolf 359, after a fashion.
indeed. 1:01 This scene completely reminds me of the one from "The Best of Both Worlds", ep 2 when The Enterprise arrives at Wolf 359 and sees all those destroyed Starfleet ships that had been destroyed by the Borg.
Who would name a starship the California. Good grief .
Human will be destroyed by ai which is a superior form of existence.
400 years from now and they still know what California is
Is that surprising to you? Cali wont even be 600 years old at that point would it?
You've heard of England and that's already over 1,000 years old
They just had to reverse the shield polarity...
one and only universe where space battles look like created by 10yo kids... Nothing here makes sense: tactics, manouvers, very idea of waging a battle in these conditions. And this is why I love it: I just feel that screenwriters really tried hard to make worst possible decisions to stay within comfort area...
why dont they fire back.
Anyone else hoping that the new "ensign" (Seth's current girlfriend) died in this attack so we would stop her "mean girl acting method" ruining episode momentum?