Walther P99, PPQ, PDP Side By Side Comparison
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- The Evolution of the Walther 9mm Pistols. We're a side by side comparison of the New Walther PDP, PPQ and P99 models with a cameo of the P-38. Big thanks to Fiocchi USA for Supplying our ammunition! #WaltherPDP #WaltherPPQ #WaltherP99
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Always liked the look and feel of the Walther P99 Gen 1 pistols.
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Lol! That's funny : ) Thanks Mike
The P99 was the first firearm I ever bought, and is still a go-to favorite. AND coveted by anybody that's shot it. I've turned down some offers and will continue to do so. I may look into an upgrade (well, update), I've heard good things about the Q and even the Creed line, but the 99 is one of my best investments.
Your original review of the PPQ is one of the reasons I chose it. I totally love this gun. No failures of any type, very accurate & comfortable to operate. Thanks for your great videos!
The Walther ppq m2 45acp was my first gun, and i absolutely love it!
The P99 is a damn,nice,awesome,fine,outstanding Self Defense Handgun.
It’s still being made. Just in limited import
@@warrenrhinerson6373 : I know,i know. And it makes me real sad.
@warrenrhinerson6373 they now made a limited edition/"final edition" similar to the original 2 tone but in Grey and Olive drab.
The P99 was beautiful in every way (without the allowance of 3rd party accessories). Shoots flat is good for those who are intimate with shooting at range. The extra long pull forced focus on the sights. Having a right index finger mag release allowed maintaining proper grip while grabbing the extra mag in your off hand for reload.
While the lack of deep texture of the grip might be a problem the deeper finger grooves made up for that (I feel anyway).
And though it might not be huge, lighter weight allowed maintaining a steady sight line.
I am interested in the PDP though as it is cheaper....
Excellent video...
Personally I prefer the p99 for its double action capability which is what I prefer in a concealed carry pistol and is why I like to carry my p99 compact.
Thanks Brother
Yup, same here. I Conceal Carried my Gen1 P99 Ti Coated for 20 years.
@@sootch00 Would be cool if you can get your hands on the _Girsan MC9 Match_ (MC9T) for a review. Maybe even a do another video comparing the Canik SFX Rival, Girsan MC9T, and Walther PDP.
I LOVE my PPQ SC. I feel like it is the most under rated carry pistol.
I'd take all 3 if I could, but settled on the PPQ about a month ago. Great gun. Thanks, Sootch.
I have the PPQ SD in .45acp, I love everything about this pistol, the grip, the soft recoil the dead-on accuracy and last but certainly not least the light, crisp trigger.
All three are just awesome but like many of you here, the P99 is the sentimental favorite!
Unbelievable how good the P99s hold their own against their newest, sharper brothers. Walther’s pistol designs and their progressive improvements thru their newer lines makes you wish for some worthwhile improvements on your Glock .
NO! Keep Glock AS IS!
@@5jjt Glocks are outdated garbage
You can't improve on glock perfection. Lol
I love my Glocks.
...Especially the ones that say Sig P320 and H&K VP9 on the sides of them.
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@@krisbennett9852 yeah Glock can improve. They're not true perfection; they are glock perfection which means nothing. They need a better trigger, better sights, and better ergonomics (grip angle mainly). It's an unnatural grip angle. You need to learn to point the glock after years of training. Many gun companies have a natural point of aim like Walther, Springfield, CZ, Sig Sauer, Canik, S&W, and so many others. They all have a natural point of aim.
The trick to the P99's trigger is to think of it like the P38. It's a DA/SA system, first pull is long, every pull after is crazy short and crisp. You also forgot to mention the very convenient cocked indicator on the back. Pro tip, if you already de-cocked the gun and want to use it in SA, do a brass check. Pulling the slide back about 5mm is all it takes to cock the striker.
Wow I was literally debating which Walther I should pick up, thanks so much for the extra input Sootch!
Hope it helps! Thanks Buddy
Own a ppq Navy and just ordered a pdp 5in full size in green.
Thank you and your family for your time and effort.
I have the PPQ in the 5” ported model. Love it, still my favorite pistol.
what a great video - thank you for making this. first time visitor so i need to check out the rest of your vids!
Thanks a million for this vid. Been trying to find a P99 recently and this has me seriously considering a PDP. Much appreciated for the in-depth discussion!
I have the P99 QA and absolutely lover from the first time picking it up to shooting it now. Haven’t had to adjust the sights since it shoots exactly like the target it came with from the factory and like you did it shoots really well rapid fire because it stays on target pretty easily. Great review 👍
I bought a P99AS when a batch became available a few years back. Cool pistol. Wouldn't have sold it if I had known it was going to be discontinued!
My first pistol was a Walther PPQ from my local gun store 7 years ago and I never looked back. Upgraded the sights to Trijicon’s, added a Streamlight TLR-7a, slapped it in a Tier1 slim holster and it’s my go to conceal carry rig. Got the SC version and was really disappointed by the aftermarket support and Walther’s blunder on a couple key mistakes. I still love it and work it into my rotation my the PPQ was a home run that more people should have been introduced to.
I recently purchased the Walther PPQ, love this firearm and now a huge fan of the Walther firearms. I really enjoy all of your reviews and content including the bloopers and outtakes too. Interested in the new Walther WMP .22 WMR and waiting to see if you do a review, thank you in advance!
Always an outstanding video and presentation.
For me, the decocker made the deal with the P99.
I own a compact and sub compact P99as and P99Cas
Been using a Gen 1 P99 for years, and while the PDP may have all the bells and whistles, the ability to carry in DA mode is highly desirable.
Springfield XD mags, at least the .40 standard length ones, can have the mag catch cut added and work perfectly in the P99.
The only bad thing about the P99, especially in the later versions is the inability to put a red dot on the gun.
Yeah you can't block the AS decocker.
*People sure love those red dots on pistols; I don't.(yet).*
*My PPQ M1(.40) point shoots so well, I can close my eyes and be on target..LOL (I seriously did that in training).*
*I bet your P99 is that way for you as well.*
*Red dots are bulky for CCW, but great for competition, or shooters with poor aiming skills.*
@@tropocal2343 Was hitting a bowling pin at 40Y, however the sights aren't as sharp as they once were. Giant balls of fuzz is one description. Eventually the arms aren't going to be long enough to make it any clearer.
Ran a red dot on a competition pistol back in the mid '90's, I now understand the advantage they give in real life.
@@ThatMDubyaGuy *Let me just say; I've been in 3 different instances where I had to brandish my CCW, and they were right up close next to me, not more than 4ft.*
*In all cases they turned and ran, fractions of a second before pulling the trigger.*
*In all these "real life" instances my pistol was about to point shoot the waist, which I trained to follow up with torso and head.*
*There was no room, or time to look through my sights.*
*I believe one should work on point shooting, as it's a pretty cool, and practical ability.*
*It starts with; what pistol fits naturally, and points like your index finger within your hand, and that's where my PPQ M1 comes in.*
*LOL, Bob Munden was my hero!*
*(Jerry & Cisco too)*
*enjoy this video, shot in my town SoCal; **ua-cam.com/video/GKgG-pIwvwY/v-deo.html*
@@tropocal2343 Was in several situations as a Police Officer where I could have but didn't use the level of force I could have.
Multiple stories condensed, I want to be able to not just see the target but the sights.
The recent mall shooting, 8 out of 10 hits at 40Y. Could I do that with the iron sights today? Yes. Tomorrow is another thing.
Amazing timing Sir. I was just needed a little help choosing one.
The P99 was my favourite gun for the last 20 years and it’s always been very dependable. Great features like the paddle mag release and the easily accessible decocker. But this week I sold it and bought a PDP 4.5, just because I wanted a change in the ‘rotation’. A couple of things that I find better on the PDP are that my trigger finger doesn’t ride along the bottom of the trigger guard and the mega slide serrations are much more comfortable to grip. But I do miss some of the P99’s charm.
Excellent pistols! This is pocket serious weapons! Thank you for video.
Just ordered the PDP Pro SD. Can’t wait… PPQ is my favorite pistol at this point.
The thing about a lot of these pistols is that they can still easily be used for the same purposes as the current production pistols, and if you find a used one and it's all you can afford, you still have a great pistol
Cool video, Sootch! Thanks!
Great and timely video! I own a PPQ, great gun, but for my next might get a gen 2 P99. My buddy had a p22 and it was the most comfortable gun I had ever held.
Did you get a P99?
Great review as always. Thank you.
I was researching what the difference was between these last night. Awesome to see the video.
Thanks Julian
I absolutely adore the P99. It is my first Walther, and the gun I shoot and tinker with the most. With the advent of red dots, I decided to swap a PDP 4.5" upper on my P99, and retained the AS mode. Easily my favorite configuration: red dot, ambi slide stops and paddle releases, uses PPQ and PDP mags, fits like a glove. I'm never getting rid of my 9mm frankenstein.
How can Pdp magazines work with the P99 lock mechanism?
Beautiful design gun, craftmanship.
Awesome comparison. Awesome lineup
I love all of mine I have the Q in both 9mm & .45 acp love em. I wish PDP came with euro mag release. Like my P99 AS.
The outtakes are hilariously relatable. 👍
I love my gen 1 p99 I’m glad I picked this up when the opportunity came along !! I plan on passing this down to my son once he’s older , great family air lume I say
A friend of mine has a P99 AS and he likes it alot too. He said he ain't never selling it.
I EDC a PDP with a Holosun 507C on it, every day at work! Great video Don!
Awesome video thanks for sharing!
Nice. Keep up the good work.
My favorite polymer handgun series
Just bought my 2md ppq in 9mm, excellent weapon.
I traded my PPQ for a PDP last year. I wish I held on to it, paid full price for the PDP and kept both. Walther retooled the PPQ Lower for their new 22 magnum WMP.
P99 trigger is awesome. Unbelievably short reset, which allows me to shoot it faster than any other pistol. Super crisp break. I would disassemble the P99 trigger bar and sear housing then put it in the PDP grip frame. P99 trigger is different but i would not say it is in any way inferior to the PPQ/PDP. I wish Walther kept with the stock P99/PPQ
sights over the new design for Glock compatibility. I find the stock sights on the P99/ standard PPQ to be dead nuts accurate. Walther PPQ SC has PPS sights, so I installed XS F8 sights on my PPQ SC without any issues whatsoever. When I went to install Glock Ameriglo i-dot pros on my PDP, it was a NIGHTMARE.
Great video! Thanks❤️. And can’t wait for the p99 / canid comparison. I think that’s a 1st.
Thanks for stopping by!
The P99 gen 1 was my first pistol. I wish I still had it. Sell it was one of the biggest mistakes I have ever made.
Walther is just that special company. They are different than all the rest. Every model firearm they produce are just great.
I’ve owned more Walthers than any my other brand firearm. I’m a Sig guy in all honesty but on any day I’m feeling like I want a treat, I grab my pK or my ppk just for shitsngiggles.
Smooth action and easy slides on them. too many some say.
The PDP F has an unusually great grip and made for woman but I can attest that my mitts are larger than most and the gun seated into hand perfectly.
You can’t go wrong and they have lifetime warranties at no cost to mail in or fix.
Walthers are special.
Awesome Video 👍
Have the P99AS, PPQ and I guess now it's time to buy the PDP. I love Walther handguns.
I was just looking at the Walther for a new CCG. Sootch is reading my mind.
Great minds think alike : ) Thanks Justin
Love my 9mm PPQ with euro paddle!
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I have a PPQ M1 (paddle) and a Q4 Tac M2 (button) and the M1 just feels better. the button has that long ridge to protect it and that just digs into my finger. The M1 just sits a lot more comfortably.
Great video
The PPQ is very the same like the P99Q, which a lot of European police forces use. They keep producing it till contracts run out, which will be at least 10 years
I agree about the P99 being a flat-shooting gun. Even in .40, the P99 just felt really easy to shoot. Easier to shoot than a Glock 22 or Glock 23. I couldn’t explain it, but glad to know it wasn’t just me who noticed it.
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Great illustration of the design evolution through the years. Please do the same for Beretta and Sig Sauer 😎
Love these guns. Im waiting on a PDP SC
My PDP feels really good to shoot and carry. The recoil other channels stress is severely overexaggerated. It's rapid fire capability is impeccable and it's chunky frame might be thicker than the rest, but it's very concealable for average sized MEN! Yes I said MEN. (Liberals melting down right now).
The quality compared to other polymers screams GREATNESS. Especially when talking about the finish of the slide.
It took a couple of weeks for my hand to conform to the grip, but when it finally did? It became my favorite polymer pistol to date. Just my opinion. I still prefer metal guns for general shooting though. CZ75B & Beretta 92fs Italy are my faves in metal 9mm
The P99 was my first love, currently a PPQ M1 is my OWB winter carry. I may have to pick up a PDP to put an optic on (don’t see it as cost effective to custom mill my PPQ slide).
I own two Walther PDP models, C 4" and FS 5", a PPQ M2 45, and a Canik TP9 DA, which to me is an improved P99. I am very pleased with all of them, being the PDP platform my favorite.
I have a gen 2.5 p99as and a tp9da. I feel like the p99 is more comfortable and has more crisp trigger over the tp9da.
@@1sabell3 For me, the Canik TP9 DA is an improved P99 AS. I looove the DA.
"which to me is an improved P99"
You can't improve perfection 😅
Caniks are nice as heck though, especiallyfor the price
@@aaroniousairlines9087 "perfection" as in Glock?! 😆
@@v.german11b "perfection" as in Glock took the industry by storm so Walther responded with their own sorta similar thing and are now replacing it with something more Glock-like. Oh wait....
Gotta appreciate this reviewer's willingness to video himself shooting round after round after round.
Sootch I,m VERY disappointed Walther discontinued the p99!!!
Not at all. Canik makes them and has improve on them with their TP9 line.
They actually did not discontinue the P99. I talked to Walter, and they just put it in limited importation
P99 is a classic pistol akin to the PPKs.
@@jbloun911 and both are still in production today. Used to own a ppks. Regret selling it to be honest
Hi Sootch, I hope you can get ahold of the PDP Pro when that comes out and film and update against the standard model & something like the Q5 (non-steel frame) version - It would be a great series
I've owned the P99 (carried on duty as an LEO) and the PPQ. IMO, the P99 is SUPERIOR on all accounts, with the exception of being/making Optics Ready.
How the 99 sucks if you're a South Paw
There is a later version of the P99 that has the same slide release as the PPQ and PDP on both sides of the frame. Works great for the left handers out there.
As a detective in Royal Malaysia Police, we still use Walther P99 👍
Nice video, I have the pdp f series 3.5
The p99 is so unique, I want it. Too bad I live in CA and probably won’t be able to own it. I really like the look of the PPQ.
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Thanks Roy!
try to get ahold of the PDP F series. I got the 3.5 " for my wife and she loves it. I bet Sarah Mac would love it as they were designed for a woman's hand. Work well for any smaller hand really. Sweet feeling gun.
Love my PDP! Walther is such a dark horse here in the Midwest.
One the first pistol I learned to shoot was a H&K So the paddle release has never been a problem for me in fact I ordered my PPQ with the paddle release.
The paddle on the PPQ m1 allows it to use P99 mags
I just picked up a new-manufacture P99AS a couple months ago, dated 2023 production.
They're calling it the final edition, but they've been trying to kill it since 2011.
Love my Gen2 P99. Excellent firearm.
Happy birthday America
May as well throw the Canik TP9 and Mete series in there as well. All these guns are variants of the P99. You can use a Canik TP9 slide on a PPQ, and vice-versa.
The long trigger on the p99 killed.it for me I just can't stand long heavy triggers maybe the other two will pass thanks for the update on the video scooch
20 years ago I had a P99 in 40 S&W. It was the most instinctive shooting gun that I ever had. I didn't need to use the sights to tell you where the hole would appear. However it was unreliable in feeding and I didn't end up keeping it. I got a PPQ a few years ago to replace it. While it had a better trigger, I didn't shoot it nearly as well. Back in January of 2020 I was eyeing a few NIB P99s on a auction site that weren't even being bid on. Problem was that within a few months you couldn't seem to buy them anymore at the $500. Don't know why.
PDP IS beutiful and awesome..one of my favorite handgun
This is a very great video! Top!
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Man that PDP looks like it has so much more muzzle flip then the others.
Greeting from Brazil, this channel is amazing, i wish my had more liberties to buy guns like you Americans can.
I really like my P 99 AS. A little practice with the unusual trigger pull and you will be surprised how well you will shoot it. Reset is fantastic and you will find that it shoots very flat and you won't pull shots left and low (for right handers) in rapid fire. Try that with your Glock and it's standard trigger. The Walther P 99 AS makes for a great carry firearm if you are carrying a Glock 19 size firearm. The paddle magazine release rocks for me, no repositioning my grip with my medium size hands. I also have a PPQ and its a has a great trigger, so I'm a fan. Pick up the boxy Glock and try to make it fit your hand. Then pickup one of these Walther's, unless you have very large hands they fit like a glove. In my opinion only, the lowly Taurus TX 22 feels better in hand. Great firearms, thank you for the review.
PPQ lives on as the WMP and Q4 Steel frame
Great review! My EDC is a PDP compact. The first time I shot it, was at a training class- and I brought my S&W M&P 2.0 Compact... and my Canik TP9SF Elite SC. The PDP, was my instructor's. He also owns a range and a great gun store. I shot it better than my other two guns. I told him to order me one right there. I'm lefty.. I carry it IWB in a Blackhawk leather belt loop holster. I love it.
I gott a p99 and when I shoot rapid for target acquisition, it ,s point of impact is about an inch low , a .40 caliber is a little bit slow and Itis my favorite for every day carry.
I always stick around for the bloopers.
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The P99 he purchased for this video is the original model, the one that James Bond uses. The newer models have more slide seriations and are also about $400-$500 cheaper.
How much is the original one worth?
@@Matt-to1bi I hear people saying that they are around $1200. That's what I keep seeing them listed for on gunbroker. However, someone listed one for $400 a few months ago and I snatched it up immediately.
Walther’s shoot great and the grip is very nice.
Proud owner of the P99 AS. I'd love to eventually get the PDP!
As I recall, the major complaints about the P99 was the kitschy traditional DA/SA & AS trigger w/decocker...as well as the Euro mag release.
In the 2nd variants, the mag release has been "improved" ( lengthened )...
also the "hump" inside of the trigger guard has be eliminated.
The "AS", Anti-Stress trigger is now being appreciated much more for its adaptability to the shooter's desires...the great success of the CANIK TP9 demonstrated this by how it has set sales records and gained wide acceptance for a newly-introduced model from a Turkish manufacturer.
Sometimes change can be difficult to accept.
Ready for the pocket double stack 9 from Walther.
This is the last year for the P99. I just picked one up. If you want that AS trigger for less money, get the Canik TP9DA. I have both. One advantage of the TP9DA is that it takes 18 and 20 round magazines. Everything else is fairly the same.
The Canik TP9DA is derived from the P99, it's pretty good and can generally be found for $325-375.
Actually the P 99 is still in production, it’s just a limited invitation to the United States
The TP9DA can be preset to make it one of the best trigger available. The P99 trigger on both the original and the QA are hot garbage.
@@kevinallies1014 I highly disagree. The AS trigger is fantastic. Even better then my dads beretta
@@kevinallies1014 I stuck a Glock striker spring in mine and the SA pull was like 3 lbs and DA maybe 6. When I started carrying it I put the old spring back as I was concerned about light strikes, but it's still a great trigger.
@@warrenrhinerson6373 I believe that the DA's trigger is based on the AS version, it operates exactly like the AS anyway.
thought about getting a pdp, but eventually I chose the Beretta APX A1
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You might want to have a gunsmith check that P99 trigger. The one I had did not come all the way back like yours does. I sold it to get a PPQ Q4 TAC because of the proprietary rail and the red-dot optics ready capability. But I would say that the P99 had a trigger very similar to the PPQ, except for the AS aspect which for a self-defense and LE pistol I would say makes it better.
Man I love the Walther P99 and all the pistols that Walther has released since then (as well as what Canik has been able to do). When I was a kid, I remember watching Underworld and loving how the Walther P99 shot in full auto (and I had a crush on Kate Beckinsale). I remember seeing it in the Bond movies as loving it as well. When my uncle bought home a P99, I thought it was the coolest pistol ever and by extension thought my uncle was the coolest person ever. He let me shoot his P99 and I fell in love. Up to that point I only ever shot my mom's Beretta 84 Cheetah and shooting 9mm kicked my ass. I couldn't get over how cool it felt to shoot the P99 and I also loved the trigger. The design of the P99 looked like it came straight out of a sci-fi movie and the button decocker blew my mind. Even now with all the new Walther pistols and all the modern/new pistols we have now, I could never replicate the feeling I got when I first saw and shot the P99.
Also 2:28 - 2:40 was such a cool transition between all 3 pistols.