I don't understand the lack of a polariser, greyish blacks kills one of the big advantages of OLED. Think I still prefer WOLED for monitor usage. Also no DP2.0/2.1 is another deal breaker.
Going from an LG CX 48" to the Alienware 34" DWF really was not as great of an upgrade as I was hoping. I didn't think I'd miss those super dark inky blacks as much as I am. I barely notice a difference in colors either. And now I'm also regretting going with an ultrawide display. I will most likely get an LG C4 42" next year, but I'm not sure yet.
Daaaamn no hdmi 2.1 in 2024. This is a hard pass. I use the lg c2 42 fpr my pc and console. Was hoping to get this 4k 32 but with no hdmi 2.1 i most surely wont. Thats just crazy. Edit nvm the 4k 32 does have 2 hdmi 2.1 ports. I might give it a look.
Spastic prices just like the pg32uqx. I cant believe the prices people are paying for the rog 27' 1440p oled when you can get an s95c for not much more
Good news. But the fact that panel manufacturers still need to intentionally dim oled monitor panels relative to tv screens suggests that the technology still isn't ready for full use in PC monitors. Granted, people using monitors sit much closer to them than they do to tvs. But they also sit closer to true hdr lcd screens, which do have higher brightness.
Display 1.4? Ew, not to mention that DSC gets buggy and straight up doesn't work on Linux. Good luck trying to get full 10bit for HDR. Cheap companies and people defend them don't realise that DP 2.1 is fully backwards compatible and can have DSC. I'll wait thanks.
Looking forward to a 27" 2160p240 with DP2.1 and a less grainy coating to replace my 27GR95QE but it looks like that's a ways off. Though what I *really* want is 2880p240 for 200% scaling, and some good strobing or god forbid a tunable rolling refresh... Wish we had more people championing that.
There’s no backlight on any OLED panels as they are self emissive, but it’s using a Samsung QD-OLED panel as opposed to an LG WOLED panel. Both are equally fast in terms of response times (near instant). I haven’t seen anything that conclusively and fairly proves either is more reliable than the other or more/less prone to burn in. Either should be fine for their intended uses of gaming and other dynamic content. Neither is going to be great if you’re using it for a lot of static content or abusing it 😀
So we still have to wait another 2 years to get higher pixel density 34" and 39" UW monitors. Current 39" and 45" with that 3440x1440 is woeful density. That's terrible news. Also why is it that laptops have seen the light and we now get 16:10 even 15:10 aspect ratios for last several years but desktop monitors are still stuck with the junk 16:9 that no one ever asked for.
I can tell you that. It's simply the sizes. The standard sizes of televisions are produced and sold in mass quantities. Manufacturing OLED panels in small sizes is difficult. You need new machines, new processes, increased errors and rejects and much more. All the effort for too few sales compared to televisions. That's why the prices are (currently) high.
Please review the Asus PG32UCDM next, I will like to know how it compares to this cheaper model, and you seems to be the only reviewer on UA-cam that also test color space emulation modes other than sRGB, reviewers like Hardware Unboxed only tested the sRGB emulation mode and did not test the P3 emulation mode or Adobe RGB modes on the monitors they review, so I just have no idea how good the factory calibration are with other color modes.
They are, but a bit later. See here OLED monitors are getting even better! The latest OLED panel roadmaps and news ua-cam.com/video/RvqcPyZ6ges/v-deo.html
@@tftcentralPerhaps Asus will add it to their 4K 32" monitor a year after it releases. Kinda like what they did with their backlight strobbing option for the PG27AQN.
@DonDOOM4 Hopefully. I was referring to the BFI being added via a firmware update, though. But I agree that their following OLED releases should make use of the panels that utilize phosphorus.
Why didn’t they just put 4k on the 27 inch model ??? , Hope they have a 27 inch version as well 32” is a little bit to much for me 27” is that sweet spot.
@@GoldenEagle0007 This monitor already supports adaptive-sync technologies. Adding the module would not make it smoother in any way. G-Sync module had it's place 5-7 years ago with LCD panels but with OLED it's nearly redundant. It just adds to the price and needs active cooling. Alienware tried it with their first generation Samsung QD-OLED panel (DW model) it it did not work out so well. The DWF model introduced with the same panel but without the module was superior in every way.
@@Raivo_K Gsync is better then adaptive sync and my point is that its already super pricey without being much special, I mean it doesn't even have 2.1 display port
Well technically it’s in that order but it’s in a non standard triangular shape instead of straight which leads to some text clarity issues compared with a normal layout
They should be coming at some point, the panels are in the roadmap for development at least 😀 OLED monitors are getting even better! The latest OLED panel roadmaps and news ua-cam.com/video/RvqcPyZ6ges/v-deo.html
27” 4K will follow later on but prob not until 2025. Info here OLED monitors are getting even better! The latest OLED panel roadmaps and news ua-cam.com/video/RvqcPyZ6ges/v-deo.html
I don’t understand why they’re focused on these 200hz+ 4K monitors as nothing for the next 1-2 years will be able to drive that at max quality in AAA games. Most people would be happy with 144-160hz at sub $1000 prices.
because people like me want something that is future proof where 1-2 years from now i don’t have to upgrade a $1,000+ monitor… and while i want to use this for competitive gaming at high fps while running 4k qd-oled for best quality but on low settings for max performance on a 4090 gpu🤷🏻♂️
I will most likely keep my 42" LG C2. Its huge desktop area and glossy finish is unbeatable even well into 2024 I see 😊 And I hope to hardware calibrate it this weekend thanks to tftcentrals guide weee
The lower color gamut and volume of woled relative to qd-oled are still downsides to the technology. LG should ditch woled and implement their version of quantum dots into their oled panels to compete more effectively with Samsung.
display port 2.1 would of made this monitor into 8k 360hz...... Seems they messed up not going for the display port 2.1 as 2.1 upgrades 4k to 8k and 240hz to 360hz
@mew1534 well no, not at all. A video connection interface wouldn’t magically change the capabilities of the panel. It’s there only to accommodate the bandwidth needed to communicate between graphics card and monitor. The underlying panel of the screen is still “only” 4k 240hz, the connection type couldn’t change that
It won’t look as good as the resolution would be lower and the res will need to “overlap” pixels, it’s not a direct ratio between 1440p and 4K unfortunately
I'll be interested if it has ULMB 2 and 240hz BFI, otherwise that 4K resolution is only true for static images not dynamic, which with sample and hold displays is barely 50% or 720p resolution or so, not good at all and for sure not good enough for gaming on, I really hope Nvidia produces a G-Sync module for OLED with built-in rolling scan BFI and ULMB 2.
It definitely won’t/ can’t have ULMB2 without a Native Gsync module and it’s not expected to feature BFI either unfortunately. The motion clarity is approximately equivalent to a 360Hz LCD though so is very good for gaming still.
@@tftcentral Unfortunately I can't see the point in buying into a display that is just slightly less blurry than 60hz sample and hold, because that is all 240hz or any refresh rate under 1000hz aka 1ms of motion clarity, ULMB 2 gives the equivalent motion perception of 1000hz 1ms and BFI is also really useful to improve motion even further, 480hz rolling scan BFI might be good for 0.4ms motion performance, so I'm waiting on the first 32" 16:10 OLED to have a proper Gsync module with ULMB 2 & BFI baked in the hardware, as someone that uses a flawless CRT monitor with 0.1 MS motion resolution/clarity, I just can't stand to go from that to barely 20% of 720p worth of dynamic/motion resolution.
I will be very curious to see how this monitor reviews seeing how you will have to use DSC to get 240hz at 4K and I haven't heard many good things about it. I think I read going beyond 160hz at 4K gets noticeable scanlines.
why the hell would i buy a 4k monitor with 240hz when all the games run in 60-80 fps right now, with rare ocasions of 110-120 in some games ? Even on a 4090 ? Even when the 5090 card comes out, it will probably run games at 150-170 fps 4k, still not achieving 200+ fps. This is pure marketing. If you are smart and you have a 4070-4080-4090 card, what you should do is buy a 2k monitor with 200+ hz and be happy for the next 10 years.
What's the point of having a 4K 240 Hz monitor if you can never get anywhere close to those frame rates. The only way you're going to be able to hit anywhere near there is with dlss in the future. Which is pointless because it's a downgrade in resolution. It basically looks like you're playing in 3K instead of 4K .
why would they not use DP 2.1? doesn't make any sense tbh. Especially if the monitor is not releasing right now.
asus needs to stop putting that chin at the bottom of rog monitors, it looks awful
Fugly stand, most likely very bad coating which ruins the black as always... and the price will be just stupid i guess
I don't understand the lack of a polariser, greyish blacks kills one of the big advantages of OLED. Think I still prefer WOLED for monitor usage.
Also no DP2.0/2.1 is another deal breaker.
Going from an LG CX 48" to the Alienware 34" DWF really was not as great of an upgrade as I was hoping. I didn't think I'd miss those super dark inky blacks as much as I am. I barely notice a difference in colors either. And now I'm also regretting going with an ultrawide display. I will most likely get an LG C4 42" next year, but I'm not sure yet.
Daaaamn no hdmi 2.1 in 2024. This is a hard pass. I use the lg c2 42 fpr my pc and console. Was hoping to get this 4k 32 but with no hdmi 2.1 i most surely wont. Thats just crazy.
Edit nvm the 4k 32 does have 2 hdmi 2.1 ports. I might give it a look.
Finally a decent replacement for Alienware 34 OLED panel.
I wish we got also 4k for curved version :(
sure samsung will do it jeje
Spastic prices just like the pg32uqx. I cant believe the prices people are paying for the rog 27' 1440p oled when you can get an s95c for not much more
Wdym not much more, the cheapest S95C which is 55 inches costs $1,997. The rog 27' 1440p OLED is a $1,000. That's nearly double the price.
Good news. But the fact that panel manufacturers still need to intentionally dim oled monitor panels relative to tv screens suggests that the technology still isn't ready for full use in PC monitors.
Granted, people using monitors sit much closer to them than they do to tvs. But they also sit closer to true hdr lcd screens, which do have higher brightness.
I can't wait for this, my wallet is ready.
Is it though?😅
Display 1.4? Ew, not to mention that DSC gets buggy and straight up doesn't work on Linux. Good luck trying to get full 10bit for HDR. Cheap companies and people defend them don't realise that DP 2.1 is fully backwards compatible and can have DSC. I'll wait thanks.
Looking forward to a 27" 2160p240 with DP2.1 and a less grainy coating to replace my 27GR95QE but it looks like that's a ways off.
Though what I *really* want is 2880p240 for 200% scaling, and some good strobing or god forbid a tunable rolling refresh... Wish we had more people championing that.
Isn't this the Samsung Panel, that's slower and has more burn-in than LG's? I thought only the backlight was Oled on these.
There’s no backlight on any OLED panels as they are self emissive, but it’s using a Samsung QD-OLED panel as opposed to an LG WOLED panel. Both are equally fast in terms of response times (near instant).
I haven’t seen anything that conclusively and fairly proves either is more reliable than the other or more/less prone to burn in. Either should be fine for their intended uses of gaming and other dynamic content. Neither is going to be great if you’re using it for a lot of static content or abusing it 😀
So we still have to wait another 2 years to get higher pixel density 34" and 39" UW monitors. Current 39" and 45" with that 3440x1440 is woeful density. That's terrible news. Also why is it that laptops have seen the light and we now get 16:10 even 15:10 aspect ratios for last several years but desktop monitors are still stuck with the junk 16:9 that no one ever asked for.
Can you please do a video on why monitors are so expensive while TVs rapidly drop in price and are using similar panels?
well for starters oled tvs dont run at 240 hz some do 120hz.
They sell a lot more TVs than monitors with OLED-panels
I can tell you that. It's simply the sizes. The standard sizes of televisions are produced and sold in mass quantities. Manufacturing OLED panels in small sizes is difficult. You need new machines, new processes, increased errors and rejects and much more. All the effort for too few sales compared to televisions. That's why the prices are (currently) high.
A lot of the reasons discussed in this article still apply and explain the situation tftcentral.co.uk/articles/oled
Highly doubtful on q1 release for that 4k 240
any news about the release date of blue phosphorescent oled gaming monitor?
No, likely to be a fair way off
@@tftcentral thanks for the update
2025 at the earliest are the estimations I've seen. Probably means for TVs though, new tech tends to trickle down to monitors quite a bit later.
@@DonDOOM4yeah. It's really frustrating gaming monitors always get the short end of the stick
Please review the Asus PG32UCDM next, I will like to know how it compares to this cheaper model, and you seems to be the only reviewer on UA-cam that also test color space emulation modes other than sRGB, reviewers like Hardware Unboxed only tested the sRGB emulation mode and did not test the P3 emulation mode or Adobe RGB modes on the monitors they review, so I just have no idea how good the factory calibration are with other color modes.
We have a written review of that model here tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus-rog-swift-pg32ucdm 😀
If only 27in 4k 240hz monitors were on the horizon. Seems I will need to wait a few more years 😢
They are, but a bit later. See here
OLED monitors are getting even better! The latest OLED panel roadmaps and news
ua-cam.com/video/RvqcPyZ6ges/v-deo.html
4k doesn't make a difference below 32inches
Better have BFI or else I'm still gonna play most games on c1 with that sweet sweet 120hz high bfi mode
I don’t expect it to have BFI sadly
@@tftcentralPerhaps Asus will add it to their 4K 32" monitor a year after it releases. Kinda like what they did with their backlight strobbing option for the PG27AQN.
@@NippleSauce Hopefully the models that come out a year later have PHOLED as well for that extra durability and higher brightness.
@DonDOOM4 Hopefully. I was referring to the BFI being added via a firmware update, though. But I agree that their following OLED releases should make use of the panels that utilize phosphorus.
@@DonDOOM4Given the OLED roadmaps for both LG and Samsung, we will be waiting many years 😢
This sh1t will cost 2,000 EUR in Europe
32 inch is too big, need 24-25 inch...
Why didn’t they just put 4k on the 27 inch model ??? , Hope they have a 27 inch version as well 32” is a little bit to much for me 27” is that sweet spot.
ULMB 2 locks out AMD and Intel GPU users from having backlight strobing. Typical Nvidia
What is the Price for this Beauty?
Intel arc has 2.1?
Do you have example shots of the text clarity?
No I’m afraid not. Will provide some when we review the screen
"The Tech Chap" has a video from gamescom of the panel with text etc being displayed.
FINALLY, a "normal' none curvy monitor. What took u so long?!
no 2.1 display port and they will charge stupid price for it, without G sync module too
And for what would you use G-Sync module on an OLED?
@@Raivo_K for 0 tearing and more more smoother looking image
@@GoldenEagle0007 This monitor already supports adaptive-sync technologies. Adding the module would not make it smoother in any way. G-Sync module had it's place 5-7 years ago with LCD panels but with OLED it's nearly redundant. It just adds to the price and needs active cooling.
Alienware tried it with their first generation Samsung QD-OLED panel (DW model) it it did not work out so well. The DWF model introduced with the same panel but without the module was superior in every way.
Nowadays g-sync just adds weight, moving fan and increases price
@@Raivo_K Gsync is better then adaptive sync and my point is that its already super pricey without being much special, I mean it doesn't even have 2.1 display port
Is this considered RGB subpixel?
Well technically it’s in that order but it’s in a non standard triangular shape instead of straight which leads to some text clarity issues compared with a normal layout
so what price will be for those monitors?!more than graphics card i think!
Is the red asus logo LED and if so can i turn it off? I hate the tacky red LED on gaming stuff.
Pretty sure you will be able to, same as on their 27” OLED
Is the DP 1.4 + DSC enough to run the full 4k 240hz with HDR enabled?
Yes it is 👍
@@tftcentral And just to double check, with either 8bit or 10bit color depth, and no Chroma subsampling?
@munfurai8083 yes correct. 10-bit at 444 chroma is supported. That’s still just within the bandwidth using DSC 😀
@@tftcentral Thanks for letting me know.
No 12bit option?
I would be satisfiled with a 42inch 240Hz LG, but for now, I don't find a replacement for my 42C2.
They should be coming at some point, the panels are in the roadmap for development at least 😀
OLED monitors are getting even better! The latest OLED panel roadmaps and news
ua-cam.com/video/RvqcPyZ6ges/v-deo.html
What worries me the most us tge burin-in on QD-OLED panels cs WIOLED.
What’s that based on though?
I wish there was a 27'' version of this 😭. 32'' is so large for a desk.
27” 4K will follow later on but prob not until 2025. Info here
OLED monitors are getting even better! The latest OLED panel roadmaps and news
ua-cam.com/video/RvqcPyZ6ges/v-deo.html
Need brighter OLED displays. We need 1000 nits at 10%. Implement heatsinks and get it done!
Any ideas why the pg32ucdm was taken down from ASUS news site announcements?
It’s on the official ASUS Rog site still announced for early 2024
I don’t understand why they’re focused on these 200hz+ 4K monitors as nothing for the next 1-2 years will be able to drive that at max quality in AAA games. Most people would be happy with 144-160hz at sub $1000 prices.
Those things exist already. This is pushing the boundary.
because people like me want something that is future proof where 1-2 years from now i don’t have to upgrade a $1,000+ monitor… and while i want to use this for competitive gaming at high fps while running 4k qd-oled for best quality but on low settings for max performance on a 4090 gpu🤷🏻♂️
4k 240hz oled monitors are what i am looking for, and the displayport 1.4 vs 2.1 i am curious how would work.
it has DP 1.4 with DSC (Display Stream Compression) which would allow 4k at 240hz.
@@lukespatola1184 i have only seen one review of 4k 240hz, and they complained about image quality loss that that point.
@@lukespatola1184 Compressed 4k at 240 Hz *, lossless or not.
first monitor after a long time that's gonna be a quick buy for me
Why not 32" 1440p? 😢
Great video thanks
I will most likely keep my 42" LG C2. Its huge desktop area and glossy finish is unbeatable even well into 2024 I see 😊
And I hope to hardware calibrate it this weekend thanks to tftcentrals guide weee
this monitor hasa glossy finish
how u can even play with mouse and keyboard?
future is looking bright like a OLED with a white subpixel
Hopefully W-OLEDs won't be a thing much longer with PHOLED possibly coming to market in 2025.
The lower color gamut and volume of woled relative to qd-oled are still downsides to the technology. LG should ditch woled and implement their version of quantum dots into their oled panels to compete more effectively with Samsung.
The best feature about this Monitor is Displayport 1.4 😂
display port 2.1 would of made this monitor into 8k 360hz...... Seems they messed up not going for the display port 2.1 as 2.1 upgrades 4k to 8k and 240hz to 360hz
@mew1534 well no, not at all. A video connection interface wouldn’t magically change the capabilities of the panel. It’s there only to accommodate the bandwidth needed to communicate between graphics card and monitor. The underlying panel of the screen is still “only” 4k 240hz, the connection type couldn’t change that
any mini led monitor new news ?
At Gamescom, only the Samsung 57” model tftcentral.co.uk/news/samsung-showcase-and-launch-odyssey-neo-g95nc-57-monitor-with-very-impressive-spec
Great display, but i'll be happy with my 240hz / 1440p 27" for a good few years
I'm curious if this monitor will look just as good in 1440p as it does in 4K.
It won’t look as good as the resolution would be lower and the res will need to “overlap” pixels, it’s not a direct ratio between 1440p and 4K unfortunately
@tftcentral That's unfortunate. Would be nice to get a 1440p oled in 32 in.
DLSS is really all you need if your concern is performance. It drops the resolution and upscales the image making it still look pretty nice.
@@CasepbX I have AMD.
How much do you think the monitor will cost?
Will vary by region but I’d expect around $1300 - 1500 USD. nothing official yet
@@tftcentral The price is very affordable, but I think the price will be a little different in Germany.
Wieso soll der Preis hier anders sein?
I'll be interested if it has ULMB 2 and 240hz BFI, otherwise that 4K resolution is only true for static images not dynamic, which with sample and hold displays is barely 50% or 720p resolution or so, not good at all and for sure not good enough for gaming on, I really hope Nvidia produces a G-Sync module for OLED with built-in rolling scan BFI and ULMB 2.
It definitely won’t/ can’t have ULMB2 without a Native Gsync module and it’s not expected to feature BFI either unfortunately. The motion clarity is approximately equivalent to a 360Hz LCD though so is very good for gaming still.
@@tftcentral Unfortunately I can't see the point in buying into a display that is just slightly less blurry than 60hz sample and hold, because that is all 240hz or any refresh rate under 1000hz aka 1ms of motion clarity, ULMB 2 gives the equivalent motion perception of 1000hz 1ms and BFI is also really useful to improve motion even further, 480hz rolling scan BFI might be good for 0.4ms motion performance, so I'm waiting on the first 32" 16:10 OLED to have a proper Gsync module with ULMB 2 & BFI baked in the hardware, as someone that uses a flawless CRT monitor with 0.1 MS motion resolution/clarity, I just can't stand to go from that to barely 20% of 720p worth of dynamic/motion resolution.
I will be very curious to see how this monitor reviews seeing how you will have to use DSC to get 240hz at 4K and I haven't heard many good things about it. I think I read going beyond 160hz at 4K gets noticeable scanlines.
DSC is undetectable from native from everything I've heard.
32" 4k 240Hz QD-OLED with a KVM, let's goooo!! They could charge £2k for this & people would absolutely still buy it.
im more interested in the 27" 1440p QD-OLED. The WRGB has horrible uniformity in 15-30% gray (vertical banding).
why the hell would i buy a 4k monitor with 240hz when all the games run in 60-80 fps right now, with rare ocasions of 110-120 in some games ? Even on a 4090 ?
Even when the 5090 card comes out, it will probably run games at 150-170 fps 4k, still not achieving 200+ fps.
This is pure marketing.
If you are smart and you have a 4070-4080-4090 card, what you should do is buy a 2k monitor with 200+ hz and be happy for the next 10 years.
What's the point of having a 4K 240 Hz monitor if you can never get anywhere close to those frame rates. The only way you're going to be able to hit anywhere near there is with dlss in the future. Which is pointless because it's a downgrade in resolution. It basically looks like you're playing in 3K instead of 4K .
If only it was curved like most 32" screens today.
My only concern for this 32” is brightness. I’ll be coming from a PG27UQ that can hit like 12-1300 nits.
It will be very similar in brightness to the AW3423DW/DWF.
@@andrewmorris3479 that would be a disappointment