Well remember at the end they said the rings are wayyy older than we were told, and the way space and irl time travel (lightyears) work it could very well belong to alien. Or dragon. Or alien dragon.. just not the one in the movie. I dont think they were a dragons rings necessarily but they had to come from somewhere
@@adairjahueypaz4051 in the comics the rings belonged to the same race as fing fang foom so if I was to guess and I'm pretty confident about my guess that fing fang foom will receive said beacon and come to earth to fight whoever.
@@megaalex28 i think they might use the rings beacon as an eternals call for the next movie, there are ten of them so maybe one per eternal? Not sure though.
I'm calling it. If they are supposed to be the rings of an ancient giant god, I'm going to explode Edit: Holy crap. Didn't expect MatPat to actually go into that direction
This theory could still be right, the end credit scene showed that the rings were made of some unknown material that not even Wong recognized. It could turn out to be, just like Mat said, alien technology or something similar
They don't end up explaining the orgins of the rings. Only thing he got wrong is the Great Protector has nothing to do with it. He did guess big dragon like bad guy though.
9:40 Toph's earthbending is unique in that she DOESN'T use Hung Gar. She actually uses Northern Praying Mantis (Tang Lang). Every other earthbender uses Hung Gar.
I literally stoped watching his marvel theory’s right when they came out a few years ago because he started getting to accurate lmao😂 Now I have to wait until after I’ve seen the movie
I mean, everything he said has been very widely available information for at least a month now, so I don’t think it’s very revelatory or really a theory (not saying he stole this video; I know how long Team Theorists spend on videos averagely)
@@excellenceadigun9093 They could have started filming this video a month ago but because of all the editing it only got done now after the UA-camrs who don't rely on editing as much got it in faster
@xPRxjeff Comics usually have more than a timeline, and more often than not, when adapting stories to cinema, things get changed. Look out for the comic story of Thanos, for example, he was just simping originally
@xPRxjeff Well he guessed what comic they will be basing it off plus that would be like saying that knowing the iron man movies plot would be easy because of reading the comics
A LOT of this was talked about in the Iron Man Armored Adventure: the 10 rings were the Makluan rings, the possessor of said rings was the Mandarin, etc.
I really love that version of the Mandarin, that it was a title passed down for generations to the leader of that group. And the son Gene Khan surpassed his father, and later by the end of the show became an ally to Iron Man instead of an enemy.
I love the restraint Marvel is showing in their character designs. The comics had a guy with two blades instead of hands, but the movie has a guy with only ONE blade for a hand. Moderation at its finest.
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Just got home from watching Shang-Chi on opening night in my city. WOW, this movie is amazing! Such a gorgeous film. Easily one of the best MCU origin movies ever.
A Shang Chi LEGO set that’s already been released literally features Fin Fang Foom in it, the funko pop was also leaked, and a lyric of the song in the trailer is You Woke up the Dragon so yeah I’m pretty sure we r getting Fin Fang Foom as a big villain in the movie who probably created the ten rings.
or the mandarin stole the rings from him which put him out of his power and thats why the trailer says wake up the dragon they need to wake him up so that they have a chance at defeating the dragon
To be fair, Ironfist was not made by Marvel Studios. It was made by Marvel television, which during the duration of the Netflix shows like Ironfist, Marvel Studios had no input over. Now they do.
@@hannyb.1364 And none of them are canon to the main MCU Timeline except for Agent Carter (because the actor of Edwin Jarvis is there and Kevin Feigi produced it) and probably Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (I’m not sure if it’s canon or non canon since the Darkhold already appeared in that show before WandaVision and Agnes has the Dakrhold for over thousands years).
Film theory idea: It's always bugged me how shrek's donkey and dragon were able to procreate... doesn't that imply that donkey's and dragons are genetically similar enough to even BE ABLE to have cross bred children???
That honestly isn’t a big bother, your high school biology class will tell you that a crossbred with children needs a minor similarity in genes. Now if this crossbreed action outputs something that can have children, that would be more confusing.
Basically it isn’t impossible for two different animals to have children. Albeit rare. It makes sense that a lion and a tiger can have a infertile child however it starts to become iffy when some like a zebra and a lion have a child. Genetics is everything I guess.
Dragon? Yes. Big rings? Yes. Theory: “the rings weren’t meant for human fingers.” After seeming the movie: well that was wrong. Nice try Mat Pat u were pretty close, kinda.
I’ve seen the movie by now and he got some of it actually right lmfao, like the Kaiju part being the soul sucker, Shang technically helping to take down the 10 rings his sister being the new leader at the end His dad is the mandarin who leads the 10 rings The other mandarin is fake Mandarin didn’t own the rings originally and stole them from somewhere The dragon shows up at the end to help fight the soul sucker (it wasn’t fing fang foom though)
I’m a movie pleb who’s never read the comics, so I don’t know if this is offensive, but I wonder if there’s a chance that, if Fin Fang Foom makes it into the movies, their name might be a little less corny?
Funny enough in Marvel comics there is character named Kei Kawade whose power is literary creating or summoning and controlling Kaiju and that kid interacted with spiderman.
Thank you for actually mentioning and condemning the anti-asian stereotypes and origins of this series. It's not everyday that I find some people who actually acknowledge even the smallest history of orientalism in pop culture discussions and I just want to let you know that it's greatly appreciated
Fun fact: in the 90's Iron Man cartoon, Fin Fang Foom was the original owner of the ten rings that the Mandarin wore, so there is precedent for this theory.
Marvel has been known to take inspirations from cartoons as well, like the Iron Man: Armored Adventures cartoon where the Rescue Armor is purple instead of red, Ultimate Spider-Man where he gets recruited by Nick Fury (though that happens in the 1610 comics too)
Ya it's crazy. LEGO revealed that Giantman was in Civil War before anything else. Wouldn't surprise me here if it happens again The second set also has Shang-Chi fleeing from the Ten Rings with one ring in hand 🤷♂️
They also revealed the entire plot of The Pirates of the Carribean on Stranger Tides, thanks to a mix up where the lego game came out 10 days before the movie.
Honestly you wouldn't even necessarily need the toy leak to confirm the five fingers. Chinese dragons are depicted with 5 whereas Japanese dragons are depicted with 3.
That’s actually probably a representation of the relationship between China and Japan in pre-modern times rather than a cultural thing. Five fingered dragons are associated with the emperor of China. As a tributary state, you would never co-opt the imagery of the emperor of the state you (in name only/symbolically) are a subject of.
Actually there is a show with the mandarin where they made pepper pots have the ring and not be useless and when the rings deem the owner worthy they send a beacon to a alien race called the makilan or something and they come down to earth.
Gotta admit, you were really really close on this one. And I mean, almost all of it happened in the way you said it but just not necessarily how. And it's still not confirmed where they came from, so they could actually be rings of some giant dragon.
He would also be the type of person to stare at a piece of paper and study that paper for hours and conclude that it is the descendant of a virus-Wood from Undertale that originally came from Minecraft.
@@dayzfallingdownx190 Fine by me baby I'm Hetero too, I understand Ladies love Sean. 😉 Is this Entrapment? I know I shouldn't joke, But I would love to see the look on his face when Honor Blackman got him, NO Mr Bond! Lol
I'm liking how close this one has come. We still don't know IF it's true, but all evidence supports it so far. Also, I would really, really like to see Fin Fang Foom be in the MCU.
Having just seen the movie, you could still be right! SPOILERS AHEAD In the post credit scene, the beacon that they’re referring to could be calling out to Fin Fang Foom.
@@jafacakes335 oh, I haven't seen much about it besides this, thanks for the info! Edit: I looked around a little bit and while it is Wikipedia, it does say film multiple times leading me to believe it is a *movie* also if you search Google for "is shang chi a movie or show" it will give you the character then under movies, "Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings" as well as "Fist of Fury II" (on mobile at least) Link to wiki: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shang-Chi_and_the_Legend_of_the_Ten_Rings
@@eternalyt5175 ye I've been told before, and I did say 'pretty sure' so I wasn't certain And all other new things this year and last year where shows so I just thought that
The Ten Rings' lore is actually related to dragons. They are said to be rings worn by fallen warriors of a dragon race called Makluans. Mandarin got hold of the rings from a crashed Makluan spaceship, where they were being used to power the spaceship. The Makluans are attributed to be the reason behind old England and Chinese legends about dragons. In the comics, if Mandarin uses the rings for extended periods of time, his arm becomes scaly and dragon-like.
SPOILER ALERT!!!!! MatPat predicted the plot very well but was just a little off with the names. The BIG bad was indeed a giant dragon-like creature although it was never confirmed in the movie where the rings originated. The first end credit scene hints at this but just says that they act like a beacon soooo there’s still a chance MatPat is right about Fin Fang Foom.
I wonder if this movie will have an Iron Fist easter egg or post-credits scene where the sequel will be called, "Shang-Chi Vs. Iron Fist" or something.
A lot of theories out there have it that there will be an Enter The Dragon style tournament in this movie, and that there's real potential that you'll either hear the names Danny or Iron Fist as a competitor.
@@Niop_Tres They could re-introduce Iron Fist into the MCU that isn't connected to the Netflix version. That's what I was referring to, sorry if it wasn't clear.
Twitter: I’m so happy asians are getting representation in Marvel Reddit: over ten years ago one of his obscure related characters was named Fu Man Chu(bad decision Marvel) Twitter: *you thought we ever loved you*
@@Valandar2 It IS over ten years. So I mean, he's not wrong. Then, I guess the universe came into being over ten years ago too, so it's a super accurate, inaccurate fact. I guess.
@Martin Toledo True, I never knew about this guy and never cared, but Marvel decided that they’re gonna do this guy and of course he’s gonna gain popularity.
@Martin Toledo Also, Fu Man Chu doesn’t need Shang Chi to be known, he’s bloody famous long before this comic, and will be long after. (At least in China, we know and hate this guy because he’s such an embodiment of discrimination.)
@@jordanharper3333 I am not a comic fanatic but in my general knowledge I think he's more of an Ironman villain. But since Ironman is dead now, they are adapting it to Shang-Chi, which isn't bad at all since it's all related to the Ten Rings.
Personally, I love the iron rings as weapons trope. It's one of the coolest tropes in kung fu cinema, but no TCMA person would *really* opt to use those over an actual weapon. They're training tools like a fast bag, jump rope, or nigiri game. Imagine Rocky using his jump rope or free weights as literal weapons to fight the Soviets. It'd be incredible, if a little silly, and that makes for good entertainment.
Fu Manchu is the archetypal supervillain. He's influenced pop culture to the point where eredicating him won't change anything. Every supervillain you can think of probably wouldn't exits without him.
Action intensive scenes are like special effects, they cost a lot of resources to do well, that's why action and special effect heavy stuff are rarely done well on TV.
@Kenn Chooch It's rude to insult someone because of their interest and brand like for example I could call you an overgrown sour patch kid with a steven universe crystal in the transformers art style. Plus in his behind the scenes video, he said that it takes weeks to make, animate and record a theory and by that time the video could already have been outdated or disproven you if you had watched that video you should already have known that it takes time to make a video. Even if mat pat doesn't know anything about marvel he researches with his team to make a believable there at least for his audience and "exploiting clicks" doesn't do anything nowadays on youtube its watch time that matters and audience reactions such as likes, dislikes, comments you would know that if you knew anything about the economic of youtube you inbreed transformer with no social skills.
The only kids show that Matpat hasn't dared to try and tackle in his 10 years of UA-cam is Thomas the tank engine and friends. And I'm surprised he hasn't done a theory on that. That was my favorite show growing up.
Still waiting for a theory on how the Backyardigans are some related Arthur, or that Big Bird from Sesame Street is an Avenger, or that Rollie Pollie Ollie somehow ties in with the Poppy lore *You know these are coming one day-*
I can’t believe you didn’t connect that literally in the comics the dragon alien race were the people who originally made the rings it’s not a theory it was in the comic books
Ah.... Matpat finally gets on the race. Seriously there were channels like Newrockstars saying the rings enlarged from the dragon since the first trailer
The moment he said dragon, I immediately knew who he was talking about. Edit: Hey, Iron Fist isn't that bad Edit 2: This could be the plot of the sequel
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I like how close his prediction was too the actual movie, and yet just missed it, compared to his previous theorys, he's gotten more accurate.
Well remember at the end they said the rings are wayyy older than we were told, and the way space and irl time travel (lightyears) work it could very well belong to alien. Or dragon. Or alien dragon.. just not the one in the movie. I dont think they were a dragons rings necessarily but they had to come from somewhere
the post credit scene basically confirms that fing fang foom is coming so matpat isnt 100% wrong although he is wrong in places.
@@megaalex28 i dont see how it basically confirms fing fang foom, it just shows something is coming
@@adairjahueypaz4051 in the comics the rings belonged to the same race as fing fang foom so if I was to guess and I'm pretty confident about my guess that fing fang foom will receive said beacon and come to earth to fight whoever.
@@megaalex28 i think they might use the rings beacon as an eternals call for the next movie, there are ten of them so maybe one per eternal? Not sure though.
"If they're on his arms and not his fingers, don't they stop being rings and become the ten bracelets?"
Matpat asking the real questions here.
We meet again mett again on this very day we meet again
Yes yes
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I'm calling it. If they are supposed to be the rings of an ancient giant god, I'm going to explode
Edit: Holy crap. Didn't expect MatPat to actually go into that direction
stop commeting on everything is annoying seeing you everywhere
After all these years, I’m impressed that there hasn’t been a *single theory* about Sesame Street. Just putting it out there.
This is such a concept that I now really need to see
Yes!
this is unacceptable...
Agreed, I hope he sees this.
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Just finished watching Shang Chi, MatPat is wrong but also kinda right. Id still give him the W on this one.
This theory could still be right, the end credit scene showed that the rings were made of some unknown material that not even Wong recognized. It could turn out to be, just like Mat said, alien technology or something similar
They don't end up explaining the orgins of the rings. Only thing he got wrong is the Great Protector has nothing to do with it. He did guess big dragon like bad guy though.
There was a monster villain tho
@@araleiasper Immortal technology.
When I watched The Immortals it stood out to me how similar some of their tech was to the 10 rings.
@@araleiasper thanks for pointing it out, i always miss the post credit extra scenes, they were good, they made the movie better 👍
You should do a theory on how much money Phineas and Ferb spent in their summer vacation.
Oh THIS I’m gonna watch
@@crissycrossgaming Same.
Haha, my sprite is better than urs.
@@DariusFlynt_2012 I disagree.
Commenting so more people can see this
The real twist: The Mandarin has a twin brother who happens to be a good guy. And his name is....."The Cantonese".
Wow, orange you glad you made that joke bro
😂
well played sir, well played
BOOOOO!!!
Take my upvote
Nah, his name is definitely grapefruit
9:40 Toph's earthbending is unique in that she DOESN'T use Hung Gar. She actually uses Northern Praying Mantis (Tang Lang). Every other earthbender uses Hung Gar.
Neat
Sick
The More You Know
NERDDDDD!!!(Just kidding thats really cool)
Respect for taking the time to know that
when you watch shang-chi and realise at this point matpat just explained the whole movie
Fr 😂😂😂
Thanks for the spoiled lol.
I literally stoped watching his marvel theory’s right when they came out a few years ago because he started getting to accurate lmao😂 Now I have to wait until after I’ve seen the movie
Not quite but sure
FR MAN HE NEVER MISSES
In the 90's, there was an Iron Man story where they revealed the Mandarin's rings were made by Fin Fang Foom's people. So there's that.
Beat me to it.
This comment needs more likes
OK more evidence I guess
I can go through life without watching another movie, and just imagine that the plot matpat puts forward is the true one.
I mean, everything he said has been very widely available information for at least a month now, so I don’t think it’s very revelatory or really a theory (not saying he stole this video; I know how long Team Theorists spend on videos averagely)
@@excellenceadigun9093 They could have started filming this video a month ago but because of all the editing it only got done now after the UA-camrs who don't rely on editing as much got it in faster
@@njay4399 I know. I mentioned that in my comment
I'd like to imagine his sequel trilogy plot theories are actually true
Meanwhile at Disney: ok guy MatPat guessed it time to complete rewrite the script.
MatPat is the destroyer of scripts.
Release the MatPat cut!!!!
@xPRxjeff Comics usually have more than a timeline, and more often than not, when adapting stories to cinema, things get changed.
Look out for the comic story of Thanos, for example, he was just simping originally
@xPRxjeff Well he guessed what comic they will be basing it off plus that would be like saying that knowing the iron man movies plot would be easy because of reading the comics
You made milk comeout my nose great laugh
It’s crazy how incredibly wrong he was, while also accidentally being incredibly correct.
what part is he right about
@@madoxgaudet3406 He was right that there was a giant monster.
He was right about there being a dragon at least
and he was right about the rings being used to free it
@@dominicmah5572 it wasn't a dragon it was a demon
MatPat: Marvel is finally doing martial arts.
Fight coordinator for literally EVERY Marvel movie: What do you think we've been teaching all this time?
"Jesus, am I the only one left who doesn't know Karate?!" - Jessica Jones
DO A FLIP!!!!!!
@@dragonseatcheese8727 snap the bad guys neck and saved the day.
@@peet-janissen5838 Using one-liners from a different channel is TIGHT!
I mean fist fights
A LOT of this was talked about in the Iron Man Armored Adventure: the 10 rings were the Makluan rings, the possessor of said rings was the Mandarin, etc.
funny, i just made a comment about that!
and i was obsessed with that show for a long time,
I really love that version of the Mandarin, that it was a title passed down for generations to the leader of that group. And the son Gene Khan surpassed his father, and later by the end of the show became an ally to Iron Man instead of an enemy.
Also matpat is right fin fang foom is a MAKLUAN
Just about to comment that
I just watched that show-
I love the restraint Marvel is showing in their character designs. The comics had a guy with two blades instead of hands, but the movie has a guy with only ONE blade for a hand. Moderation at its finest.
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@@AxxLAfriku define humble right now
@@AxxLAfriku
Sounds like what a virgin that never felt a woman's touch would say
@@AxxLAfriku I'd hate to see you arrogant then.
@@AxxLAfriku saw you on another comment section thread saying no one likes you have you don’t have a single friend
Just got home from watching Shang-Chi on opening night in my city. WOW, this movie is amazing! Such a gorgeous film. Easily one of the best MCU origin movies ever.
Same
too bad China hated it :)
Agreed
If they had a sky beam I would have had Marvel Movie Bingo! So close.
@@Amokra It Gained 1,000,000 Social Credit In Our Hearts 😔
A Shang Chi LEGO set that’s already been released literally features Fin Fang Foom in it, the funko pop was also leaked, and a lyric of the song in the trailer is You Woke up the Dragon so yeah I’m pretty sure we r getting Fin Fang Foom as a big villain in the movie who probably created the ten rings.
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or the mandarin stole the rings from him which put him out of his power and thats why the trailer says wake up the dragon they need to wake him up so that they have a chance at defeating the dragon
FFF is also from space which ties this movie to the more cosmic stuff happening in phase 4
To be fair, Ironfist was not made by Marvel Studios. It was made by Marvel television, which during the duration of the Netflix shows like Ironfist, Marvel Studios had no input over. Now they do.
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So then were the runaways, cloak and dagger, agents of shield, and agent carter all made by marvel television as well?
@@hannyb.1364 yes
@@hannyb.1364
And none of them are canon to the main MCU Timeline except for Agent Carter (because the actor of Edwin Jarvis is there and Kevin Feigi produced it) and probably Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (I’m not sure if it’s canon or non canon since the Darkhold already appeared in that show before WandaVision and Agnes has the Dakrhold for over thousands years).
Well it was MCU canon, it was retconed with Disney+ tho
Film theory idea: It's always bugged me how shrek's donkey and dragon were able to procreate... doesn't that imply that donkey's and dragons are genetically similar enough to even BE ABLE to have cross bred children???
I think he's actually already done a video on that, either that or it was a different channel Lockstan and noggin
That honestly isn’t a big bother, your high school biology class will tell you that a crossbred with children needs a minor similarity in genes. Now if this crossbreed action outputs something that can have children, that would be more confusing.
Basically it isn’t impossible for two different animals to have children. Albeit rare. It makes sense that a lion and a tiger can have a infertile child however it starts to become iffy when some like a zebra and a lion have a child. Genetics is everything I guess.
‘When we look at the real life biology of dragons’
Donkey is a half dragon that's why
Dragon? Yes. Big rings? Yes. Theory: “the rings weren’t meant for human fingers.” After seeming the movie: well that was wrong. Nice try Mat Pat u were pretty close, kinda.
I don’t think he’s wrong yet, just had a theory about information that’s to be revealed in the sequel
@@bradohorsley Or maybe Multiverse of Madness...Or an Avengers crossover.
I’ve seen the movie by now and he got some of it actually right lmfao,
like the Kaiju part being the soul sucker, Shang technically helping to take down the 10 rings
his sister being the new leader at the end
His dad is the mandarin who leads the 10 rings
The other mandarin is fake
Mandarin didn’t own the rings originally and stole them from somewhere
The dragon shows up at the end to help fight the soul sucker (it wasn’t fing fang foom though)
Well in the end wong Said that the rings belonged to someone else so it migth still be true
@@spelavidioterpro4988 Also they said it's made from an unknown material (nothing from earth and also nothing Kree)
If they bring in Fin Fang Foom and it doesn't turn out to be a complete joke, my nerdy heart will be incredibly pleased.
I’m a movie pleb who’s never read the comics, so I don’t know if this is offensive, but I wonder if there’s a chance that, if Fin Fang Foom makes it into the movies, their name might be a little less corny?
@@KeitieKalopsia no never never say that go away with that do not say a single word
It reminds me of ironmsn armored adventures
I can live peacefully knowing a Kaiju and spiderman exist in the same universe
Supaiduman deska?
@Back from the Deadpool night monke
Funny enough in Marvel comics there is character named Kei Kawade whose power is literary creating or summoning and controlling Kaiju and that kid interacted with spiderman.
What should really bake your noodle is the fact that _Godzilla_ exists in the Marvel Universe.
"Not even the hardest of hard-core Marvelites have watched." MatPat, you severely underestimate us.
that's what I thought when I heard that, I mean who HASN'T seen that clip, am I right guys?
I've seen all the one shots!
dafak2011 ye i saw it in 2015 lol i didnt know it existed for a year
Yeah I saw it a while ago
@Kenn Chooch Do you know how long it takes to make these videos?
Thank you for actually mentioning and condemning the anti-asian stereotypes and origins of this series. It's not everyday that I find some people who actually acknowledge even the smallest history of orientalism in pop culture discussions and I just want to let you know that it's greatly appreciated
Fun fact: in the 90's Iron Man cartoon, Fin Fang Foom was the original owner of the ten rings that the Mandarin wore, so there is precedent for this theory.
Marvel has been known to take inspirations from cartoons as well, like the Iron Man: Armored Adventures cartoon where the Rescue Armor is purple instead of red, Ultimate Spider-Man where he gets recruited by Nick Fury (though that happens in the 1610 comics too)
Also in iron man armored adventures I believe they dont call them the 10 rings but instead the makluan rings
Also armoured adventures the rings are originally owned by alien lizards and a dragon basically a giant lizard with wings
@@JAGuy eyy I lowkey forgot about that thank you for being smart lmfao
Tyrell Liddell I loved that show when I was younger
Ya it's crazy. LEGO revealed that Giantman was in Civil War before anything else. Wouldn't surprise me here if it happens again
The second set also has Shang-Chi fleeing from the Ten Rings with one ring in hand 🤷♂️
Well well well, looks who's here
Look guys! It's Ashnflash here!
They also revealed the entire plot of The Pirates of the Carribean on Stranger Tides, thanks to a mix up where the lego game came out 10 days before the movie.
Hello there everyone Ashnflash is here..
lol
Honestly you wouldn't even necessarily need the toy leak to confirm the five fingers. Chinese dragons are depicted with 5 whereas Japanese dragons are depicted with 3.
That’s actually probably a representation of the relationship between China and Japan in pre-modern times rather than a cultural thing. Five fingered dragons are associated with the emperor of China. As a tributary state, you would never co-opt the imagery of the emperor of the state you (in name only/symbolically) are a subject of.
Actually there is a show with the mandarin where they made pepper pots have the ring and not be useless and when the rings deem the owner worthy they send a beacon to a alien race called the makilan or something and they come down to earth.
Gotta admit, you were really really close on this one. And I mean, almost all of it happened in the way you said it but just not necessarily how. And it's still not confirmed where they came from, so they could actually be rings of some giant dragon.
MatPat can look at a blank sheet of paper for 2 seconds and find out how it's secretly a sentient parasite from Mars.
Would that piece of paper happen to be the psychic paper from Doctor Who?
He would also be the type of person to stare at a piece of paper and study that paper for hours and conclude that it is the descendant of a virus-Wood from Undertale that originally came from Minecraft.
@@thatsinger606 Yes. But that species came from elsewhere... The Toadstool Kingdom
@@musicalsystem927 yes but 🙄👌😏😎
That's Matpat in a nutshell...
"And wouldn't ya know it, it has ten fingers. Five on each hand."
Great final bit of evidence MatPat.
That actually matters because some Chinese dragons are depicted as having 3 or 4 fingers
@@javiergreen603 the comment is more on the ironic nature of the statement itself
Uh... I might be blind, but I counted 4 fingers on the Lego toy, and only 4 seem visible on the funko pop as well....
@@kluevo uhhhhhh
What would a ring be called on a toe?
@@kateymclatey1891 A toe ring
Fun fact: Fu Manchu was also the inspiration for Sir Ian Fleming's Dr. No.
SPECTRE!, Nayland Smith does not like this!
@@druunderwood5602 Connery Bond is the original and best Bond. I accept other opinions, but won't change my own. Ever.
@@dayzfallingdownx190 Yes Sean was an Icon, Never underestimate Dalton tho,
Living Daylights even if its just for Kara Milovy Lol
@@druunderwood5602 Oh, for sure. Except I'm a heterosexual female, so, in my opinion Connery is easier on the eyes! :D
@@dayzfallingdownx190 Fine by me baby I'm Hetero too, I understand Ladies love Sean. 😉
Is this Entrapment? I know I shouldn't joke, But I would love to see the look on his face when Honor Blackman got him, NO Mr Bond! Lol
I'm liking how close this one has come. We still don't know IF it's true, but all evidence supports it so far.
Also, I would really, really like to see Fin Fang Foom be in the MCU.
I mean he was there fighting Wong
@@ShadabKhan-ht1rf I didn't mean the Abomination part. The rings part.
When you're so early people are blessing your universe...
@jaydon new How did you reply that quick.
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@@KingdojoYt nah
The MCU?
:)
matpat: we have a winning streak for our recent theories
also matpat: puts the wanda's stolen children on the screen which he himself said was wrong
It's his editor but I get the joke
During the music of the trailer there is a line “You woke up the dragon”
Having just seen the movie, you could still be right!
SPOILERS AHEAD
In the post credit scene, the beacon that they’re referring to could be calling out to Fin Fang Foom.
Hm.... never thought who the beacon was being sent to, but I honestly think that could be the case
I'm totally expecting them to just call Fin Fang Foom something like, "the Foom"
Or just "Makluan."
Triple F
@The LeaprachaunFinna call The Foom from the Fang Gang
They would wouldn't they
I can't possibly be the only one so nerdy, in the subjects of today's episode, that I already knew everything in this episode before watching it
Also, Kung Fu Hustle is the best movie ever made, prove me wrong
Same my guy
I love kung fu hustle! Its one of those movies that's able to nail that perfect combination of comedy and action.
Same, I also knew mostly everything in here. I was saying to myself doesn't everyone know this and then realized .. oh right im way too into comics
@Epic Guy Why get a life when I can be rich, debt free, over-educated, and uninteresting in conversations
me: *can't understand a movie after watching the entire thing*
matpat: *decodes the entire movie after watching a 2 minute trailer*
@sam not rockwell wtf bruh
@sam not rockwell wtf
@sam not rockwell Excuse me?
@sam not rockwell Hes a bot you guys, just ignore him
@sam not rockwell ??
seeing this after i saw the movie: he nailed it (exept for the fin fang foom part, its actually a good and different dragon)
oh god i remember playing fin fang foom in LEGO avengers a few years back and im so happy to finally see him on the big screen
OMG yes
Me too
Lady:"Who are u?"
Shang Chi:"I can't answer that,but here's a
cool pose instead"
Lol
XD
Watch them change the whole movie just to spite matpat lmao 😂 💀
That will also be fun
@@jafacakes335 oh, I haven't seen much about it besides this, thanks for the info!
Edit: I looked around a little bit and while it is Wikipedia, it does say film multiple times leading me to believe it is a *movie* also if you search Google for "is shang chi a movie or show" it will give you the character then under movies, "Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings" as well as "Fist of Fury II" (on mobile at least)
Link to wiki: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shang-Chi_and_the_Legend_of_the_Ten_Rings
@@jafacakes335 actually, hate to break it to you... but it's a movie.
@@eternalyt5175 ye I've been told before, and I did say 'pretty sure' so I wasn't certain
And all other new things this year and last year where shows so I just thought that
Serves as an excuse for why matpat gets things wrong
This is probably the closest theory that Matpat has ever gotten on a Marvel film
The Ten Rings' lore is actually related to dragons. They are said to be rings worn by fallen warriors of a dragon race called Makluans. Mandarin got hold of the rings from a crashed Makluan spaceship, where they were being used to power the spaceship. The Makluans are attributed to be the reason behind old England and Chinese legends about dragons. In the comics, if Mandarin uses the rings for extended periods of time, his arm becomes scaly and dragon-like.
That intro was something else lol
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I thought he was gonna do the MCU intro, post-2016 version.
@@soccerruben1 yo that would've been dope lol
Dr. Fu-Manchu
every vilian: Just have to say I am a huge fan
It just came out on Disney plus and you were almost on point, like almost every thing you said was right
I really hope Shang Chi isn’t just another Iron Fist
@Holl ywood who is F
@Holl ywood f 🥺💗💞💞💖💕💗💞 /j
I think it is
I liked Iron Fist, is that an unpopular opinion?
@Holl ywood I love F too 😭😭😭
Looks like Matpat hasnt been watching New Rockstars, i was expecting a theory on “How does Shang chi fit into the final battle in Ant Man Quantumania”
Or they are working together to get this theory stuck in our heads
Or maybe they been having this theory working since the start and yak decided to not completely scrap it
In the comics the Ten Rings powered the ship that Fin Fang Foom used to come to Earth so it makes sense that they would be dragon-alien sized.
It doesn't. In the comics they were size- changing, hence why the Mandarin could wear them.
SPOILER ALERT!!!!! MatPat predicted the plot very well but was just a little off with the names. The BIG bad was indeed a giant dragon-like creature although it was never confirmed in the movie where the rings originated. The first end credit scene hints at this but just says that they act like a beacon soooo there’s still a chance MatPat is right about Fin Fang Foom.
As a Chinese I can agree
No I cant
If we're gonna have Fin Fang Foom and Monica Rambeau in-universe now, I can only hope we get Nextwave someday.
she : who are you?
Shang-Chi :
i dont know how to pronounce my name but i can pose for you
The rings are big because they were meant for a hands of a literal dragon god. That’s so cool.
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That is cool
You should definitely do a collaboration with New Rockstars for one of their Rouge Theory episodes. I think it would be a good one for everyone.
Can we just take a minute to enjoy how good his intros are
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I love how you just crush these movies movies totally, but still make a likable series out of it
@Lou Lou no one cares abt your video thank you very much
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@Holl ywood so...many....random...comments
The rings the mandarin wears have occasionally been called the makluan rings. As in the race that fin fang foom is a part of.
Wow
You always know its about to get good when MatPat says "hear me out".
"A mandatory sky beam to mark the spot".
That pretty much sums up most of the giant creature movies.
I appreciate that the dragon was attacking Toronto
Hello fellow canadian
I wonder if this movie will have an Iron Fist easter egg or post-credits scene where the sequel will be called, "Shang-Chi Vs. Iron Fist" or something.
A lot of theories out there have it that there will be an Enter The Dragon style tournament in this movie, and that there's real potential that you'll either hear the names Danny or Iron Fist as a competitor.
@@Niop_Tres They could re-introduce Iron Fist into the MCU that isn't connected to the Netflix version. That's what I was referring to, sorry if it wasn't clear.
Shang Chi would easily beat him since he fights like a 5 year old
I love how close he actually was like not 100% but so close
All of my Kim’s Convenience fans are just going to see Jung Kim this whole movie.
I KNEW he looked familiar!
Bro it's literally the only way I'm getting my mom to see the movie with me
Honestly lol, I was so excited when they announced he was the lead because I knew him from Kim's Convenience
Twitter: I’m so happy asians are getting representation in Marvel
Reddit: over ten years ago one of his obscure related characters was named Fu Man Chu(bad decision Marvel)
Twitter: *you thought we ever loved you*
I mean...... Fu Man Chu was his father in his origin story, so it’s not exactly an obscure related character.
"Ten"? Try FORTY.
@@Valandar2 It IS over ten years. So I mean, he's not wrong. Then, I guess the universe came into being over ten years ago too, so it's a super accurate, inaccurate fact. I guess.
@Martin Toledo True, I never knew about this guy and never cared, but Marvel decided that they’re gonna do this guy and of course he’s gonna gain popularity.
@Martin Toledo Also, Fu Man Chu doesn’t need Shang Chi to be known, he’s bloody famous long before this comic, and will be long after. (At least in China, we know and hate this guy because he’s such an embodiment of discrimination.)
A new trailer has just released and tells us this theory is right.
no dude the fin fang foom theory got debunked
there is a dragon but it isn't fin fang foom
@@bartsimpson3509 I don’t care gimme the dragon 🐉 🐲
@@thedarkages6476 lol ok
@@bartsimpson3509 same feelings dude
After watching the movie is scares me how accurate this is
MattPatt:You probably haven't seen this short.
Me who watched all the extras on every single movie: 👀
Lol - I'm not even THAT big of a fan of the MCU and I've seen it.
Honestly if Fin Fang Foom makes an appearance in the movie it's less than a surprise for me but more of an "it's about time" moment. 🐉♥️🇵🇭
Wasn't he a spidey villian for a second? I could be wrong since I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of the marvel franchise
@@jordanharper3333 I am not a comic fanatic but in my general knowledge I think he's more of an Ironman villain. But since Ironman is dead now, they are adapting it to Shang-Chi, which isn't bad at all since it's all related to the Ten Rings.
Personally, I love the iron rings as weapons trope. It's one of the coolest tropes in kung fu cinema, but no TCMA person would *really* opt to use those over an actual weapon. They're training tools like a fast bag, jump rope, or nigiri game. Imagine Rocky using his jump rope or free weights as literal weapons to fight the Soviets. It'd be incredible, if a little silly, and that makes for good entertainment.
Matpat you where wrong but right about the dragon so good job
I feel like Kung Fu Hustle is a low key masterpiece of cinema.
I love refreshing the comment section again and again and seeing the amount rise lmfao
Oh and don't forget the amount of bots, just look above me lmao.
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Movies about Fu Man Chu don't often appear anymore, but he's still noteworthy as the namesake of the Fu Man Chu mustache.
Fu Man Chu will never die
Nayland Smith bought me the Christopher Lee German box set just
so we could see Cato Fong again. 😎
One of Our Dinosaurs is Missing 1975
"Do you Know The Last Dragon?"
Fu Manchu is the archetypal supervillain. He's influenced pop culture to the point where eredicating him won't change anything. Every supervillain you can think of probably wouldn't exits without him.
Action intensive scenes are like special effects, they cost a lot of resources to do well, that's why action and special effect heavy stuff are rarely done well on TV.
Woman: Who are you?
Shang chi: Starts throwing gang signs
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Yayyyy
Three Storms said Who? 🤣
Not gonna lie, when I realised where he was going with the bracelets I got really excited. Maybe Matpat will get a prediction right this time.
Yeah the bracelet theory has been going on around ever since the trailer released
@@eternalyt5175 Their you go again! All ways that Stan Lee's Lucky Man Thing,
I know I won something but for what I have know idea ⚔ Lol
"No I'm not Wonder Woman!" In an Irish accent! That's was it, Honestly you had to be there.🤣
I literally predicted that fin fan foom was going to be the twist in the first 30 seconds of this video and I love that character
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Ditto. Or, at least I shouted his name. I wasn't actually expecting it. :D
Same
@Kenn Chooch It's rude to insult someone because of their interest and brand like for example I could call you an overgrown sour patch kid with a steven universe crystal in the transformers art style.
Plus in his behind the scenes video, he said that it takes weeks to make, animate and record a theory and by that time the video could already have been outdated or disproven you if you had watched that video you should already have known that it takes time to make a video.
Even if mat pat doesn't know anything about marvel he researches with his team to make a believable there at least for his audience and "exploiting clicks" doesn't do anything nowadays on youtube its watch time that matters and audience reactions such as likes, dislikes, comments you would know that if you knew anything about the economic of youtube you inbreed transformer with no social skills.
Funny when Matt is wrong but also right at the same time lol
The only kids show that Matpat hasn't dared to try and tackle in his 10 years of UA-cam is Thomas the tank engine and friends. And I'm surprised he hasn't done a theory on that. That was my favorite show growing up.
Still waiting for a theory on how the Backyardigans are some related Arthur, or that Big Bird from Sesame Street is an Avenger, or that Rollie Pollie Ollie somehow ties in with the Poppy lore
*You know these are coming one day-*
"Blacklight which you never want to use in a hotel room"
ono
OwO
Anyone else thinking about Star Lord in this moment?
everyone: oh no, so many powers!
the D&D party who just killed a beholder: only 10 different abilities?
Mattpat could literally make Barney sound like an Avengers level threat
I can’t believe you didn’t connect that literally in the comics the dragon alien race were the people who originally made the rings it’s not a theory it was in the comic books
Since when MCU and comics go hand in hand? In the comics the Mandarin is an Iron Man villain and never met Shang-Chi
@@SomeOne-iq7yv Yeah but its the source material genius :/
@Swag Monke yes but he could’ve used it to support his theory lmao
Kevin: ok so are we ready to put fin fang foom into the show
Assistant: um sir he’s back again
Kevin:🤦 just scrap a few things ok
the genius of this line is so good it diserves SO many more likes
Ah....
Matpat finally gets on the race.
Seriously there were channels like Newrockstars saying the rings enlarged from the dragon since the first trailer
Yeah
Whoa sooooooooooooo close, just missed it at the end. I gotta say, Matpat's gotten so good at this...
Ben Kingsley's acting as Trevor Slattery reminds me so much of Tomska's humor
Idea for a new episode:What happened in Denmark in Penguins of the Madagascar
This is actually a genius idea.
We don't talk about what happened in Denmark
Thai food and Shang-Chi. I see you, Team Theorist. Props for cenebrating AAPI month ❤️
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I am scared how accurate this was
Definitely not me binging all three channels and then this pops up on my phone lol
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The moment he said dragon, I immediately knew who he was talking about.
Edit: Hey, Iron Fist isn't that bad
Edit 2: This could be the plot of the sequel
Same. Their name and visage is so memorable
Everyone hating on Iron Fist, but my boy Danny had a story worth watching even through all the sub-par choreography
Marvel: Rings
Marvel: *sees someone on the street
Marvel: BRACLETS
Love Fin Fang Foom. Was always such a cool looking villain
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Scared me
And most prominently cool sounding.
We can all agree the music for the trailer is amazing!
No
I have been waiting for 10 years for you to cover this topic
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