Let's just take a moment to realize that we are in 2023 and comparing 2 different wagons with a 6 cylinder engine without batteries. Take notes Mercedes.
It just makes me sad because I know this will be the last generation of cars like this, also for BMW.. The "Green Deal" (if you live in the EU you'll know) will kill our hobby this decade.. Enjoy it while it lasts..
@@inflatable2 live in the UK, man these days of screaming exhausts when you mod these new cars are gonna come to an end, it’s crazy really. gonna make sure i get my hands on a G80 when i’m older, absolute wet dream of a tuning car.
@@johannesbohm9333 Ganz sicher wird keiner bestraft, der auf der Autobahn genauso schnell beschleunigt, wie das Auto vor ihm. Da bräuchte man schon einen sehr schlechten Anwalt und einen grünwählenden Richter.
What's more impressive is cars without complicated engines, oil leak issues, spark plugs issues, timing belt problems etc can leave both of these cars in dust without modifying and buying a drop of fuel. 😂
I have a fast BMW diesel which does 250+km/h but is also very fuel economical. Can drive 1250km on one tank no problem. Except for some Tesla's, I out accelerate about all electric vehicles on the road. BMW's these days are seriously rockets on the road.
People are just now starting to realize how good the 40is are. I've got a 2018 240i and people laugh at me when I tell them how much performance you can get out of these engines. They stop laughing when we line the cars up.
Great comparison, and that's so impressive. I could never afford an M3 Touring, but I do have an M340i Touring arriving in November, and this video has given me food for mod-thoughts...
335i and the newer 340 has always been absolute beasts and known for great performance / euro. Had a 335i n54 with a stage 1 from jb4 and a full system from m performance, had around 400 crank and that shit blew m3 e90s out of the water.
Next year - after leaving the warranty period - the 1st thing is to send the DME to FemTo to unlock it. Then MHD Stage 2 can come... But you've forgot to tell in your vid, that it's recommended to change the downpipe to a 200 or 300 cell version (which I did - HJS DP) at Stage 2. I also changed the oilcooler to one from Wagner tuning to not having problems on the race track temperaturwise. And one optical tip (and maybe it's also a good idea for high speed runs) to Martijn: please assemble the M-Performance real wing - it looks amazing!
Having been fortunate to have owned the 340i Tourer and now The M3 Tourer. The M3 always brings a smile to my face & I have never had so many 👍, 😮, 👀,😊 or people coming up and asking me about it as I have with this car. Love the content AutoTopNL ❤
Absolutely agree on the new ID8 display. It looks cheap. Just another way for BMW to cut costs under the BS premise that its being innovative. I have the 2022 M240i and very happy I got it before they introduced this Frankenstein display. The all touch infotainment controller backfired on the new Golf R and VAG is already making changes as they realized everyone hated it.
BMW did such a great job with the styling of the m340. they could have done a lot better with the m3. although im kind of getting used to the big grilles. they look ok on the touring
The front bumper on the m3 can now be replaced with a aftermarket ADRO kit which easily makes the front end looking 10x more aggressive compared to stock. Only downside is that the upgrade requires additional 3-4k.
Wow, that does look very, very good. Reminds me a bit of that limited production BMW 3.0 CSL front end, which I always felt was what the M3/M4 should have been like. I assume it doesn't affect the cooling? I heard a BMW engineer explain at some point that they had to do those huge nostrils on the M3/M4 because they couldn't get enough cooling intake through that traditional kidney grille openings. I see that ADRO kit has a bit smaller grille openings than stock but not by all that much, so I assume it's fine?
very nice comparison. The M340i sound much more better, the changes have an very positive effect. Next week I can pick up my new m340i touring in munich :) but not so loud as yours :D
Great comparison, thanks for doing it. Some things the M3 has that you cannot get on the M340i are; ceramic brakes, laser lights, carbon seats. But, even without those options, the M340i is still a lot cheaper. Best of both worlds: Alpina B3 Touring with the S58 engine…? Please do the same test with a M3 Touring vs an Alpina B3 Touring!
340 touring is nice nvm the other 40i in the line up. Sending praises from South Africa 🇿🇦. Cant subscribe a bit poor at the moment but still support the likes 😎👍
So basically you're saying the M3 is overrated and you can get same performance with a downpipe for 1/3 the price. Sounds good I went for the 765LT 2022.
Bmw M performance cars been much better then M cars for every day user since long time. M550i is another amazing example. Sometimes less is more and not only in terms of price.
Hi guys! absolutely love your videos and you are really getting me sold on the m340i. I am considering an M340i (pre LCI) and a Merc CLA45 amg s. I would really appreciate your opinion on how these two compare. Thanks in advance!
A family estate car with a fairly mild tune can do nearly 200 mph now. Wow. I had a f22 m240i with MHD and I knew it would do good numbers but never tried obviously in the UK. The B58 is an absolute masterpiece
Glad I’m not only one who hates those gauge graphics, it’s an absolute disaster, and even worse in a manual rev’ing car out on a triangle rev counter. Even the monotone nav display in cluster is just a weird design decision. I’d love to do a b3 touring build but having to look at that cluster is the barrier to entry
BMW charges a lot more for M3 for what is so little difference against a tuned M340i. Also, I don't like the fake air vents in the front guards- why put them there when serving no function and detract from the smooth lines? Most obvious interior change is the piped engine noise which is absolutely terrible.
Do you guys only sell parts or have a garage as well to tune the cars up? i got a m340i and would love to get it tuned, but would rather do by people who know what they are doing
Really good video and really good comparisons!!! Strong V6 engines..but when you said about an RS4 stock which is clearly underpowered from Audi...please take a Stage 3 S4/5 with TTE turbines even without meth you will surely understand the potential of EA839 engines which is similar to S58!! Both V6 engines = High potential - piece of art!
I had an 330e with the Idrive 7 and that was the best OS in any car I have ever driven… disappointed that BMW is going down the wrong path a long side Audi and Mercedes.
Let's just take a moment to realize that we are in 2023 and comparing 2 different wagons with a 6 cylinder engine without batteries. Take notes Mercedes.
and this is a C class competitior, before people talk about the E class. the m5 g90 is going to have a V8 Hybrid
Mercedes? Don't like chinese Cars xD
It just makes me sad because I know this will be the last generation of cars like this, also for BMW.. The "Green Deal" (if you live in the EU you'll know) will kill our hobby this decade.. Enjoy it while it lasts..
@@inflatable2 yeah. I feel like the orchestra guys in the Titanic, appreciating the last moments before sinking
@@inflatable2 live in the UK, man these days of screaming exhausts when you mod these new cars are gonna come to an end, it’s crazy really. gonna make sure i get my hands on a G80 when i’m older, absolute wet dream of a tuning car.
We‘re not gonna race each other, we’re just gonna both floor it at the same time 😂😂😂
Thats german language for not gettibg a ticket 😂
Not a ticket, this can be called an illegal street race and you can end up in jail for this 😵💫 that’s why they have to be very careful about this.
Streng genommen ist das illegal, das könnte locker als Beweis reichen. Dazu noch mit 130+ auf der Landstraße in ne 70er Zone fahren...
@@johannesbohm9333 Ganz sicher wird keiner bestraft, der auf der Autobahn genauso schnell beschleunigt, wie das Auto vor ihm. Da bräuchte man schon einen sehr schlechten Anwalt und einen grünwählenden Richter.
@@Nordheide ich weiß hatte aber kb das ins englische zu übersetzen 😂
I always find it amazing how the M-Lites can stick with the ///M’s in a straight line.
Only when tuned.. So not really a fair comparison.. You can also tune the M to make it faster again..
What's more impressive is cars without complicated engines, oil leak issues, spark plugs issues, timing belt problems etc can leave both of these cars in dust without modifying and buying a drop of fuel. 😂
@@inflatable2M140/240 is pretty same straight line speed as (N55) M2
@@borinvlogswith the character and emotion of a dead person
@@borinvlogsfor a solid 300km, and then they have to refue.. wait a while to continue
The only one missing is the B3 Alpina. Would of been nice to of seen that next to the 340i. Great Video 👍
BMW touring with a lot of power is my favorite.
This is why I bought a corolla ,had a hard time deciding which bemmer is better
It's cheaper to run so it's objectively a better and much more desirable car than either of these ;)
damn bro, my bank account decided the corolla was the one for me
@@MyRealName Not really, being cheaper doesn't make it better.
@@aleaallee it's cheaper to run, he didn't mention the price diffence.
Lmao
19:45 the fact that BMW has made a car capable of going nearly 200 (with tunes and such) while still being able to achieve 30+ mpg is insane
can't see any fuel economy gauge tho?
@@ridingtherr0502it’s not a chevy blazer lol
@@rexotto5075 like i cant see any shite indicating the fuel economy on the dash
I have a fast BMW diesel which does 250+km/h but is also very fuel economical. Can drive 1250km on one tank no problem. Except for some Tesla's, I out accelerate about all electric vehicles on the road. BMW's these days are seriously rockets on the road.
it doesnt get 30 mpg at 200
300 kmh in a M340i is crazy
I did 270km/h in a 330i (manual) with only 270whp.
@@tubejorrit Cool story bro.
@@tubejorrit Prove it then.
@@velhonen I did 220 in a 136hp 320d e46... Pretty sure you can do 270 with 270hp
310
People are just now starting to realize how good the 40is are. I've got a 2018 240i and people laugh at me when I tell them how much performance you can get out of these engines. They stop laughing when we line the cars up.
As a kid I never like wagon now I’m obsessed with them ❤️😭😭
Me too.
BMW sedan is still nicer, from the back the wagon is alright, but from the side, the wagon has a big hanging lump at the back which is ugly.
@@jankees4037 highly subjective
@@jankees4037 the sedan getting played out
Great comparison, and that's so impressive. I could never afford an M3 Touring, but I do have an M340i Touring arriving in November, and this video has given me food for mod-thoughts...
335i and the newer 340 has always been absolute beasts and known for great performance / euro.
Had a 335i n54 with a stage 1 from jb4 and a full system from m performance, had around 400 crank and that shit blew m3 e90s out of the water.
Yeah, because the E9x M3s were lame af... 🤫
@@nKrandom i wouldn't call it lame lol, awesome engine and car overall.
@@nKrandom lol, couldn't be more wrong
I love my m340i touring. The m3 with this colour looks amazing!
I'm soon to be an M340i Touring owner & I can't wait
glad you kept cerium grilles and mirrors on the m340i, this is what distinguishes the m340i and is special for that model, looks awesome
Fully agree 😄
i have to say, i wanted to replace it with a full black font but knowing that....well lets say it keep it like that. its really nice
Because of the B58 the S58 exist, i love both engines best inline 6 engines onn the market for their price performance !! Love it.
I like the sleeper look of the M340i while it has actually the same specs with stage 2
Love the M3 touring!! 😍
Agreed! Give me the analog dials on my F82 every day of the week! Complicated, cluttered and confusing is not better!
M-lines and AMG-lines are overall the best thing. More than enough power. Good value. Excellent balance.
Have had a V10 S6, a X5M and now a C43 AMG and love them all. X5M very expensive to maintain but was a great vehicle.
Next year - after leaving the warranty period - the 1st thing is to send the DME to FemTo to unlock it. Then MHD Stage 2 can come... But you've forgot to tell in your vid, that it's recommended to change the downpipe to a 200 or 300 cell version (which I did - HJS DP) at Stage 2. I also changed the oilcooler to one from Wagner tuning to not having problems on the race track temperaturwise.
And one optical tip (and maybe it's also a good idea for high speed runs) to Martijn: please assemble the M-Performance real wing - it looks amazing!
Totally agree on dials/physical interaction being better for the UI, the m340i pre dual screen in the tan leather is my dream car.
You should compare these to the old F31 340i touring. It’s my all-time favourite 3 series.
I really like the F31 - it's such a beautiful car design-wise - but the G21 is a way better car in general... 🥲
@@nKrandom I agree. But I just love the old one with M package and in mineral grey with silver M wheels 🤤
Yea I miss my F31 335i. It was such an amazing car. Loved it on the autobahn. Was time to pass it on to a new enthousiast though.
Having been fortunate to have owned the 340i Tourer and now The M3 Tourer. The M3 always brings a smile to my face & I have never had so many 👍, 😮, 👀,😊 or people coming up and asking me about it as I have with this car. Love the content AutoTopNL ❤
Absolutely agree on the new ID8 display. It looks cheap. Just another way for BMW to cut costs under the BS premise that its being innovative. I have the 2022 M240i and very happy I got it before they introduced this Frankenstein display. The all touch infotainment controller backfired on the new Golf R and VAG is already making changes as they realized everyone hated it.
+1
Got an X3 M40i :) Downpipe and Midpipe have arrived, next week she's going for tune cant wait
cars for old people who needs a truck to get in
That's a really nice car ! Congrats man !!
Enjoy the mods 🤟
@@Threat_LvLJealous, huh?🤔
@@AutoTopnl thanks, too bad no eventuri intake for the X3 m40i - anything else u recommend?
BMW did such a great job with the styling of the m340. they could have done a lot better with the m3. although im kind of getting used to the big grilles. they look ok on the touring
“Look at it go!” Love that part 🥰😂 19:38
The front bumper on the m3 can now be replaced with a aftermarket ADRO kit which easily makes the front end looking 10x more aggressive compared to stock. Only downside is that the upgrade requires additional 3-4k.
Wow, that does look very, very good. Reminds me a bit of that limited production BMW 3.0 CSL front end, which I always felt was what the M3/M4 should have been like. I assume it doesn't affect the cooling? I heard a BMW engineer explain at some point that they had to do those huge nostrils on the M3/M4 because they couldn't get enough cooling intake through that traditional kidney grille openings. I see that ADRO kit has a bit smaller grille openings than stock but not by all that much, so I assume it's fine?
OEM looks better in my opinion
All those aftermarket kits look even worse
@BlueBull696 indeed and I believe the side vents on the ADRO kit are slightly larger than stock which improves the cooling so it's like evens out.
Adro kit is NOT an improvement.
very nice comparison. The M340i sound much more better, the changes have an very positive effect. Next week I can pick up my new m340i touring in munich :) but not so loud as yours :D
I have to wait until the end of November for my M340i 😢
Wow, I am astonished by the M340i
Great comparison, thanks for doing it. Some things the M3 has that you cannot get on the M340i are; ceramic brakes, laser lights, carbon seats. But, even without those options, the M340i is still a lot cheaper. Best of both worlds: Alpina B3 Touring with the S58 engine…? Please do the same test with a M3 Touring vs an Alpina B3 Touring!
Strange I have got an M340i with laser lights..
@@bahamas3125 yes they were an option for the first iteration, however they removed that option for LCI refresh.
@@andrewhurstcars ok did not know that I have the old one.. 🥲
They just stopped doing optional light units..
YOU'RE RIGHT continue you delight me
guys at br performance NL had a stage 3 m340i with 582hp/798nm. Absolute madness
Mijne komt daar ook vandaan stage 2 , 510 hp / 780nm.
Wat is er na de stage 2 aan gedaan?
340 touring is nice nvm the other 40i in the line up. Sending praises from South Africa 🇿🇦. Cant subscribe a bit poor at the moment but still support the likes 😎👍
How do these cars compare to Alpina D3/B3?
dream car would be the m3 touring with alpina suspension and rear wheel steering.
very very cool!!! Thank you for this amazing video! 😎
Amaizing review i would thake 340i any time its such a great car with this mods.
very enjoyable video (again), well done Max. :)
Amazing new Video idea to compare two Cars on the Autobahn. Please more of these types of video👌🏻😊
i really love the m340i touring
It would be fun if you make more of these type videos where you are driving with someone else.
missing some tuning parts for bmw diesels in ur shop, both 4 and 6 cyl thank you =D
1:52 shows the superior looks of the big grille.
Bought a 330d x drive g20 wish I bought a 340i and tuned it 330d is a great car but still dreaming of the 340i
What about the alpina b3 Turing
You'd be winning with either car
I like the new beaver front..but it needs M3 touring wide body to make it work i feel. Makes the front look more agile and determined.
The best looking touring bmw all time, M3!! I´m just waiting for the M3 competition
You two Alpina-yzed this 340i 😎
The comparison everybody Wants. 340 is affordable, then save Money, put stage 1 or 2 on, have fun
So basically you're saying the M3 is overrated and you can get same performance with a downpipe for 1/3 the price. Sounds good I went for the 765LT 2022.
I'd be interested to know what you think of the Alpina B3!
is it on kw springs or kw coilovers, im sure the coilovers would be superior in ride and handling for the m340i
My next car is definitely 6 cylinder bmw
I agree with most, however, the B58 does not sound better than the N55 in my opinion
Very
My dad got the xm340i and we hit 280 on the Autobahn 😍
Do more like these videos 🔥
Bmw M performance cars been much better then M cars for every day user since long time. M550i is another amazing example. Sometimes less is more and not only in terms of price.
Amazing and pretty cars
Awesome vid, how much of a speed and handling difference is there if I take the touring M340i over the Sedan? I see its about 100KG heavier
Hi guys! absolutely love your videos and you are really getting me sold on the m340i. I am considering an M340i (pre LCI) and a Merc CLA45 amg s. I would really appreciate your opinion on how these two compare. Thanks in advance!
No brainer; m340
Thank you. Which years model is the M340?
A family estate car with a fairly mild tune can do nearly 200 mph now. Wow. I had a f22 m240i with MHD and I knew it would do good numbers but never tried obviously in the UK. The B58 is an absolute masterpiece
BMW m340i, My Dream Car.😍😍😍
330e for me. Looks good, fast, efficient and electric on boring commuting. These two are way too crazy expensive for me, and I imagine most viewers
Is it taxes on the M340i ?
And 330e still a beast when tuned
Real BMW = 6 inline !
@@geronimofromostend9278 = expensive BMW not all people can afford
@@saf6996 Indeed. Just a remap bumps it up to 400hp. Id still say 300 is enough but yeah huge potential. At least with the B engine from the 330i
Its now a stage 1 or 2? On the time list it says stage 2 but on the video title says stage 1
I think is stage 2 for the time it makes 🤔
I love my 01 e46 wagon 325i its a lil old but damn its sexy wagon gang ❤❤❤
consumption are probably 40liter if not more on 300kmh so basically you will have for 25minutes of driving fuel with full tank
Too bad we can't have either of these amazing cars in North America!
why not?
Bro we’re so lame here. Apparently people don’t buy wagons?!
What's the total cost of the mods on the M340i?
21:57 casually holding the steering wheel with one hand at 260 and acelerating LoL.... Anyway, loving your vids...
On the m340i which parts was replaced on the mhd stage 2
Intercooler? Downpipe ? Both?
It’s not possible to disable the fake sound with those programming thingies? Tks
i like your videos
Is the XHP transmission tune bad for the transmission in the long run?
Since it forces faster shifts
Just wondering?
Would be nice to compare an b58 stage 2.5 vs a stage 2 s55 m3 or m4.
The S58 in the bmw is a beast. If tuned its really ridiculous
Glad I’m not only one who hates those gauge graphics, it’s an absolute disaster, and even worse in a manual rev’ing car out on a triangle rev counter. Even the monotone nav display in cluster is just a weird design decision. I’d love to do a b3 touring build but having to look at that cluster is the barrier to entry
I prefer the new generation what a beauty.
BMW charges a lot more for M3 for what is so little difference against a tuned M340i. Also, I don't like the fake air vents in the front guards- why put them there when serving no function and detract from the smooth lines? Most obvious interior change is the piped engine noise which is absolutely terrible.
brakes WHERE to upgrade them ? I have M40i also , Msport ( brembo , blues 4 +2 )
do you know about the price ?
Cool vidéo 😎
You said the 340i has mid-pipe & downpipe, but I assume it also has an OPF-delete, given the sound, right?
Which exhaust is that? I bought the car but i want to add such an exhaust to it and i cannot find a good one on google
M3 stage 2🥰
Hey, what settings do you use on gopro (and which one do you have)?
Im a benz fan but i respect bmw for having real exhaust pipes instead of fake pipes like the benz and audi
Are you still driving that M3? I saw it driving this morning on the A6. I was in the grey i4.
15:20 still can't believe the revs go the wrong way, kind of a dealbreaker
Dealbreaker? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@yohanponcha yes, would prefer the old analog meters actually
My choice would be an Alpina B3.
What is the best : mercedes c43 amg touring 390hp or bmw m340i touring 374hp?
Do you guys only sell parts or have a garage as well to tune the cars up? i got a m340i and would love to get it tuned, but would rather do by people who know what they are doing
We have a garage. Feel free to come by and test our m340 😁 just send us a message through instagram
amazing cars
Wont these modifications that you do VOID MANUFACTURER'S WARRANTY?
Verzorgen jullie ook de tuning via jullie shop? Heb nu ruim anderhalf jaar een m340i en het is nu wel tijd om hem een beetje te tunen.
He! Stuur ons even een mailtje AutoTopNL @gmail.com
Gaan we alles voor je regelen 👍
For me, the answer is probably an alpina B3 touring, facelift. But depreciation is horrible with those :/
Pls give this M340i Touring to Misha :P
M340i it is 🎉
Really good video and really good comparisons!!! Strong V6 engines..but when you said about an RS4 stock which is clearly underpowered from Audi...please take a Stage 3 S4/5 with TTE turbines even without meth you will surely understand the potential of EA839 engines which is similar to S58!! Both V6 engines = High potential - piece of art!
Note: not V6 but 6 in line = The power of BMW! 😉
@@geronimofromostend9278 similar structure then!!
@@Cotsios123456 No. Just no. V6es are not similiar to R6es... 🤐
I had an 330e with the Idrive 7 and that was the best OS in any car I have ever driven… disappointed that BMW is going down the wrong path a long side Audi and Mercedes.