Are spinnakers bad for relationships? // Atlantic Crossing Daily Vlog #11
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2020
- Welcome to our LONGEST day across the Atlantic. The wind dies on us and we spend our entire day messing with sails.
In this video, things take a turn again. And sprinkle a dicey situation with some sleep deprivation, fatigue, and stomach problem, you get the perfect recipe for an explosive cocktail onboard.
It’s not always smooth sailing across the Atlantic!
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Hi Ryan & Sophie, Ok time for a quick pro tip. Go back and watch the spinnaker hoist in this video. Notice how close the sail was to the forestay. I closed my eyes thinking it was going to wrap. So when you hoist a spinnaker in light air in flip flop rolling seas you need to first sail a higher angle. Like 90 to 120 apparent wind angle. This drags the apparent wind angle forward so that the spinnaker won’t want to sit near the forestay before it is given a chance to fill with wind. If you hoist from mid foredeck rather than in the bow it also helps keep it away from the forestay as is swings through the air. If you don’t as the mast swings through the air over waves the forestay or shrouds will ‘cut through’ the partially inflated sail and you’ll get the sail wrapped a number of times around the foil. Worst cases I’ve seen involved people having to cut the sail to get it down. Also, sheet on much quicker. If you use a wind sock sheet on first then unfurl followed by tack on. Same without a sock. In heavier air it’s the opposite. If your halyard cut it means your halyard sheave is sharp. Try a fairlead below the sheave or a better smoother sheave. You probably noticed the halyard twisting which means it’s going over a hard edge. Cheaper production yacht supplied braided halyards when twisted go square. Twist in opposite directions a section of halyard between your two hands about 4” apart to see the shape of the braided halyard when twisting over a hard surface. It goes square and make it worse. A fairlead on the mast a few inches bellow the sheave stops this too. Also in dropping sails Sophie, you need to stop yelling ‘go go go’ ‘yey! ‘you got this’ etc. it’s encouraging but you need to leave communication space for Ryan to explain what he needs, yelling out ‘get the bottom in’ was good though. The start of the sail drop and if it’s going in the water is the only time you need to yell during a drop. Drop the spinnaker halyard faster for the first 2/3rds, Sophie control the last 3rd of the drop in the halyard speed only. In light air do this with your hand in any more than 7 kts use one wrap on the winch. Ryan when gathering in stand up and actually go for it, hand over hand full arm lengths, grab and pull the sail in. Only in very light air drop it on the deck. You should pull it into the forward hatch or over the boom and under the mainsail, known as a letterbox drop. Sort out the twist in the spinnaker by running two tapes through your hand later when you pack it in a bag or back in a sock. Good luck.
I hope that you guys have found safe harbor and are staying safe. IMHO I think you are the "ying & yang" of cruising. Ryan's serious intensity and Sophie's calm and humorous way of lowering his blood pressure. I enjoy watching you guys immensely.
Started watching a bit ago. Ryan and Sophie are the eternal compliments of night and day. Each exists with the other, both happy to see the other arrive and sad to watch them go, while knowing the other will be back soon. Life is what happens while we make plans.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE THE MUSIC. IT'S SUPERB BACKGROUND MUSIC. Usually the sea, the sounds are enough but you really have GREAT taste. THANK YOU.
Will be honest. I laughed after hearing Ryan go on a rant, and at the end Sophie just asks "And you think I'm gonna let you do that?" Reminded me of days couped up in a submarine with a group if 130 assholes like me, solving problems.
You two don't need counseling. Those that say that have never been put in an actual high stress situation with someone they depend on. Ya both handled it, made up after it, and carried on to the next day. Exactly how we did things under the water, with no sun light, running on 3-5% less oxygen than in the atmosphere, tired from pulling a 12 on 6 off shift.
If anything, people need to learn it's all about team building.
Keep em coming. Y'all ever make it to northern Minnesota, a week of fishing on me. 😉
Humans have survived millions of years of teambuilding before therapists existed. 🕊️
Estrella Del Mar, Before therapist, and attorneys, humanity wallowed in a muck of happiness.
Nice post mate.
Ok worth the wait, I feel one of the best episodes yet. 1) you as a couple are communicating well. 2) Despite running with deficits you are problem solving, and working though the events. 3) you are looking out for one another. Love it. Is it time to repurpose that spinnaker into needed face masks for the locals? Take care
Ryan that French is a keeper let me tell you im married for ages i know this stuff. She keeps cool when you go hot. Nice balance. Enjoy!
Adapt. Overcome. And apologize. Rinse. Repeat. The ongoing story of a sailing couple. Great episode guys - good work!
All too real, the reality of sailing. You captured the essence, well done.
Another “warts and all” , well done Guys, so refreshing to see these videos, showing the “real” experiences and “real” emotions. Loving it. Watching your Atlantic crossing, one video at a time is like being there with you both. I know there’s going to be happy ending, but for now “what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger!” 👍⛵️😎🤣
Well done you two. Tough time, but you did it and remember you are Following Your Dreams.
I just loved the raw truth you captured in this episode. Sailing is never easy at the best of times and our emotions can easily take over. Well done guys, you did well, and I hope to see you out there some time.
I admire and respect you both so much. Thank you for this.
Sophie's calm approach is so encouraging.Good job to both of you!
👍Great episode. Total reality. Can totally relate. Bless you both. Thank you for sharing. 🤗💞🤗
That was a splendid episode showing what sailing on the atlantic is like in reality ! Well done you guys
Love how you show the real side of sailing and not just the good times with smiles and sundowners.
I was in the Navy in the early 70’s , I remember standing 4 & 4’s, { 4 on 4 off} for days on end, totally different skill sets but I sure can relate to the fatigue.
The irritability level is understandable and I laughed when the not needing to shower every day came up.
All I remember was existing on candy bars, Coke’s and cigarettes , when I saw the fresh bread I realized the “French Navy” has a higher standard and that’s a good thing.
Cheers🍸
Thanks Dave! So glad you can relate to the fatigue and irritability! It's a real thing! :)
This is exactly what sailing life is...partly. But there are those mostly good moments to compensate. Follow your dreams guys and enjoy each other ;-)
Also “ HUO HSIANG “ also for motion sickness. Keeps you from disposing your food over the side of your ship. Happy Sailing ⛵️
Ryan "The sock is stuck"
Missed a "That's what she said" moment, Sophie.
Hahahaha 😂😂😂😂
No spinnaker was "armed in the making of this video "Allo" "Allo" You guy's put a big smile on my face!
Thanks Nelson! Your comment put a big smile on mine :) /Sophie
Remarkable vlog; you two acted very well together despite the obvious difficulties from lack of experience. Congrats and thanks for sharing with us.
After our first misadventure with a sock I took it down and we now run the spin by itself. Not too bad when short handed, though the spin is always tricky to get down in big wind. I had to laugh at the title, any sailor will know what you mean. As easy as it is to slip into having one assignment for each crew member for any procedure, it certainly helps if all crew understand all positions. So, we try to practice doing the other guy's job regularly.
Great video, you guys worked it out in the end, we haven't done anything as big as an Atlantic crossing yet, but a few multi day passages as beginners that definitely had us flustered. Great job :)
I have absolutely no idea what is going on with the sails but must say looks exciting and sometimes dangerous.
Glad to see you got the lifejacket on when so tired it is easy to make mistakes.
Great video
Let's just say... it was a hectic day! :)
WTH? Passages take as long as they take! Throw anyone overboard who can't be okay with that idea. I adore Sophie! She has the patience of Job. ❤️
That was a proper slice of life on passage, really enjoyed it. Sitting here hoping the predicted wind doesn't arrive. X
Poooor sophie, always so happy suddenly reached a low point. It's ok. I understand. I think Sophie, you put all your energy trying to lift the energy of the somewhat grumpy R. Low energy. It drains your energy tremendously. I dont know Ryan. I just see him on this passage and in all honesty feel for Sopgie who has tried so hard to make it joyous and pleasant.
Sophie, ça m'a fait plaisir de t'entendre parler français dans une vidéo précédente.
J'ai fais la transat sur le 8 mètres d'un ami il y a 6 ans, c'était pénible et on a failli ne pas arriver au bout. Beaucoup de pannes et de casse dans une mer parfois violente et très forte durant toute la transat.
Un français fidèle à votre chaîne depuis quelques mois, Jacques.
Thank you for the hard work of filming during the hard times that occur inevitably on transits. I think it serves to clarify that it’s not all wine and roses that most of the sailing blogs show.
No mattet the issue it is what you learned from it that matters.. Good reminder from your friend.. saftey first and then you act. Don’t forget to celibrate when an issue is cleared.. it’s the small things that matters the most.. 👍
That was a hard day. Good job though. You handled it, didn't panic. The boat came out of it pretty well.
I use to race a lot and we had many near misses or knock downs sailing with a Spinnaker. Sometimes terrifying. Takes practice.
Keep safe, keep smiling, give each other a hug
Spinnakers are full of new surprises!!
On racing cats we use "spinnaker nesting usints " SNU, there are grommets in the middle of the sail evenly spaced with a rope stop ball in the top grommet so the sail folds itself when bring it down in a tri-fold shape. Well ask Sophie most Hobie's have them, if equipped. 5 seconds to deploy or bring down.
Ha Ha say it again .....Ryan Sophie Much hugs love this channel safe sail .....
In the future. Use your main to blanket the asymmetrical. It will make dousing or lowering the sock much easier.
But... on a passage to the Caribbean we similarly had a bear of a time dousing in rapidly climbing winds. Even with 4 of us, it took about an hour. In our case we had tangled the sock ropes. So, I also have a love hate relationship. Good job on working together as a team.
You guys did great! You got it down without using a knife. We watched a professional race crew literally cutting their spinnaker down with knives where it wrapped around the foil. They were paid professionals with a crew of 8 to handle everything, you are only two in the middle of an ocean. Thanks for another very interesting video.
Priceless. I feel your pain.
LOL - YOUR "Type II Fun" reminded me of what would be considered "Type I Fun" from my military days (Type I Fun = cold, wet and hungry). Such good times! 😅😉 So happy you guys made it through. Thanks for sharing!! Stay safe and healthy. 👍👍👍👍😍😍⛵⛵⛵⛵
Thanks bill4nier! Always such a pleasure to see you in the comment section! :)
Whew! That was a rough one! Sending you both hugs via the internet! Now excuse me while I adjust my easy chair...
Love this channel, keep them coming. And Ryan, their is nothing as tension releasing as telling a piece of equipment to fcuk off and calling it a B^$¥^£#.. I’ve done so many times, but without a camera rolling. If all else fails, your diamond, the lovely Sophie will bring you to a calm place.
Becoming one of the best sailing channels. It’s just honest blogs.
And here I thought I heard Ryan say that "he was bored"😂. Great vid. Cheers
Hahaha! I know!!! ;)
I know this is in the past but if you two think you need therapy after that wait till you meet Karen and me. :) You both did a stellar job of dealing with a stressful situation. No one who hasn’t been at the top of a mast on a rolly ship will understand. We had this same situation in much higher winds. Next time try undoing the tack instead of loosening the sheet it might work better. It allows you a better angle of pull on the snuffing sock.
Cheers Dave
Nice top.
Spinnakers have given birth to some of the most creative invective ever heard on sailboats. We had a spinnaker wrap in lower NY harbor -- and had to play pinball machine between the moored ships and the moving ones till we got it down. Not fun!
oooooh I wouldn't have liked that! 😅
People usually are diff on such long passage. I was once on a boat where 1 person brought the worst out of me. Sometimes people, even who love each other get on each other's nerves. Sometimes good to get out of each others way for a bit and not talk? I keek on wanting to say "Ryan be happy. You know how many want to be in your spot?"
Two tips to reduce chafe: Try to prevent the spinnaker from swinging too much. That can be achieved by bringing the pole at the clew. Constrain the pole's movements as much as you can by means of the topping lift and downhaul. (1) You can hoist and lower the spinnaker by a few inches, say twice a day. Make a mark on the halyard at the clutch. When you think you may have chafe, move by a few inches, make a new mark. Looking at the small size of the spinnaker, you have a lot of halyard length to play with - perhaps more than 1 meter.
clidiere all good points! Add to that there are basic rules for using a spinnaker that everyone should know as a starting point. Like start with pole 90 deg to wind and horizontal with the horizon. Halyard not tight to mast. Keep clew of spinnaker tight to pole. Don't over sheet , let it breath. Never gybe accidentally, ever . Spinnakers are exciting and fun but you cannot set and forget. Oh those lines in the cotpit. , be carful coiling lines in use can be a disaster . Fallen lines usually don't tangle. , just my rules of thumb Cheers Warren
Trust you guys have since done some reading and now know must depower your gennaker / cruising shoot (no matter what the wind speed) by masking behind another sail, preferably going directly down wind, and you must do that even if you have a sock / snuffer. I would of also got rid of pole prior to drop. We have all been there in the continual learning that is sailing.
Hy, great channel, I love it! Congrats on your adventure and your choice. You are an inspiration.
I was wondering, would you be so kind to explain how do you manage to store all the video? Hard drive? and also, how do you do to have a Weather forecast in the middle of the ocean... Do you have internet? Which? How? How much? Thank you very much in advance for your answer and your time!
Have you tried using the spinnaker as a asymmetrical spinnaker and putting the windward tack at the end of the windward hull? You should be able to fly it w/o a pole. There are some good videos out there by Xquisite on how the flew their spinnaker while saying from South Africa to the Leeward islands. I want to compliment you on weather harnesses whenever you are on the deck and using a safety line when leaving the cockpit. Most of my offshore sailing was in races. Things happen so fast on racing sailboat you really don’t have to to worry with a harness much less a safety line.Just what crazy racing sailors do. On my 45’ monohull no one went on the deck at night without a harness and life line and made to hook up even if they were just sitting reading. And during the day time you were required to wear your harness but hooking in was optional unless you went to the foredeck. When the night is dark no matter what the wind and seas using precaution is safety rule #1. Remember, with precaution it is easier to stay on the boat than to get back on the boat. Most drownings from fall off the boat occur at night. Black sky, black water and if there are any seas you may never find the person who fell off. So, it simpler to keep them on the boat in the first place. Your videos are the best!!!!
I would call all of that just a natural release of stress.... the important part after a release is to let the nice hugs fill in the space where the stress previously existed...... and somehow i knew you were going to go for that second pat of butter on your delicous looking bread ! :-)
I laughed when I edited the footage of me adding more butter on the slice of bread 😂
That was all a bit exciting but it all ended well !!!! Well done you 2 and sometimes swearing really helps .
I give you both a lot of credit, sailing looks very stressful especially crossing an ocean.
It is! there is a reason why it is considered a big challenge! :)
I loved this one
I think you guys are doing fine. Everyone gets a bit of stress on a crossing. But here are a couple of my thoughts. First I’ve never been a fan of socks in spinnakers. Some people love them but they have a lot of extra lines and there are more things to go wrong. Try the kite without a sock. Next lots of people love the twin headsails but they really only work sailing DDW. Putting up the main and polling out one headsail might be something try when the wind is lighter. With the sails like that you can then easily head up a bit, pull the head sail to the other side that will stop some of the sails banging around. Anyway just some ideas. Good luck.
Always enjoy your posts. Dang, how many of those chocolates did you eat. On another subject, why did you lead the spinnaker sheet through the pole end? Seems like it wanted to straight back to wherever it ended up on the deck. Cheers.
Lol Ryan loves snacks, Sophie loves good Real food and fresh bread. Ahhh having a French lady coook. Yeahhhhh.high 5
Nice episode, you guys having good time if you manage to take showers while crossing the Atlantic, well done 👍
Another fantastic video. Was it a sailing video, or a relationship video? I could feel the “tension’’ here in Scotland. Amazing film making. Keep,up the good work , and keep,safe !
A long time ago spinnaker halyards used to be all external with a block on the outside of the mast not an internal sheave. Still Probably a good idea for long passage making. Also FYI, THE whitbread/VOLVO Race boats used to send somebody aloft every time the set a spinnaker and switch the head to a fixed strop to take the load off the halyard. Always seemed odd to me unless they set up a quick release from the deck. But I don't think they did!
I know you guys have no interest in racing but you learn so much so fast on the right kind of boat with the right skipper.. ( not saying you need to learn but for other folks reading comments)
Cheers Warren
I had the pleasure of chatting with Ryan in Almerimar before ye headed off. He was a gentleman. I have barked and shouted at Mairit when the shit has hit the fan too. Now it wasnt right for me to do that and when Mairit asked me if I would like someone to talk to my daughter like that I had to say no. She pointed out that I was being disrespectful to her Dads memory. That was the last time I barked.
This episode made me cringe. One thing I am nervous about is sheets and Halyards hanging over the side while motoring. I can't tell if that was ever a risk while lowering that spinnaker but I am glad you got through it. Lots of fun.... Type 2 fun 😀😉
Whose stupid idea it was to leave the microwave out...LOL...you guys really work well together ...keep the spirit up
Thanks for choosing to show the conflict and apology. That took mucho integrity.
It is beautyful, that you show it too, when things go not well. No matter what the reason may be. Because that is NORMAL. We all have our limitations acting civilized and when there has enough buildup of shitty situations have been, then the pressure must be relieft. Happens to all of us. My Girlfriend when she heard me the first time sputtering about bad situations, became a white Face, as she never heard me before acting like that. But when I told her, that I swear not against her, only agaist the Goddamed, fu...ing Stress or Situation at hand AND that it is no ones fault and I don't mean her, she gulped a shy yes, I understand. Since then she is swearing too and this makes me laugh a lot. At the end we both are laughing.
courage sophie ne craque pas et des jours meilleurs arrive!!!!! je vous suis depuis toujours et je t'ai loupé a almérimar!!! je vous embrasse tous les 2!!!!!
A spinnaker is difficult to manage and it gets even more difficult if its not sheetet properly. The windward lower corner has to bee close to the bow in a max 10 cm line. The leeward sheetingpoint shall be hauled to the spinnaker pole. Then you have contol over the spinnaker. You can ajust the height of the spinnakerpole if you want a hollow or flat sail. The spinnakerpole shall have a 90 degree angle to the mast. Happy sailing.
A genaker is easyer to manage.
This was a gennaker 😭
Hi, it seems we got the 'mild' version of this episode...
A spinaker or any code sail cause trouble in a squal and have the same reaction of tired crew. Nothing unusual. Great job in making peace that fast.
Nah, it was a fairly accurate recollection. I just cut through Ryan's rant and shortened it! And it took us a couple of hours in real life to make peace ;)
Ryan and Sophie, I know for terminals on cars and other electrical equipment, there is a gel like substance that can be placed around the terminals to keep a strong connection. Maybe its not sea worthy some may say, yet I just figured I would bring it up once you make land for future destinations ja да
ps: I´ve never really sailed a boat in the ocean so, but surely there is something in that context for it for a cheap price
On our former boat, the spinnaker was often referred to as the divorce papers. On our current boat we have come to love a nice spinnaker day...most of the time!
Look into using a parachute as a headsail ditch the Spinnaker. No pole to deal with no tacking
And that's why we love Sophie....She is the glue that is holding the boat together!
I think epoxy is the better metaphor. You need both parts to have a strong bond. They are a team, through and through.
I agree. Epoxy is a tighter bond!
I laughed when I read the title of this episode. When I first tried to learn using a spinnaker, it was with a former wife. We ALWAYS ended up yelling at each other...in five years on that boat, the ONLY time there was yelling. Yeah, spinnakers? not great for relationships. But fun to fly.
I agree.... and so comfy! :)
Excellent choice of music... I looked up the song by doing a Google search. The song is: Wichita by The Eastern Plain. 🎵 ❤️
Why do you guy's Waite to last min to change the sails...Ryan, you Sophie have done one HELL of a job....!!!!!
A Code 0 on a furler would solve the problem. Much easier to douse and control with less chafe on everything. Maybe for your next ocean crossing?
I agree! But it's a few thousand dollars for the sail, and another few thousand dollars to outfit a second forestay and furler on Polar Seal. We simply can't afford it :)
Well done you two trying times but sharing is doing the world of good for our self isolation here in the uk. Out of interest did you never consider a Hydrovane or was the cost to great. Keep it up the good work, love you both, x
We are often asked the question of the hydrovane! A lot of sailors love them, but we our arch set up and davits, ti'd be a pain :)
I love the way you tell storys, Sophie! I really like when you film a lot and not just sit in front of the camera and talk. Its more interesting to actually SEE you take on socks or whatever. Thank you! And I would like to know what editing program you use? /Catta
Hahaha! Thanks guys! When I edited this, I thought to myself "Am I ACTUALLY leaving a clip of me putting socks on?! 😂
well remembered NEVER let your gaurd down
Recommendations: 1) Get an ATM sock for your spinnaker. They are excellent! 2) When you fly the spinnaker while using the new sock, mark the line that is the down haul for the sock with white tape. In that way you will know which one to pull to get the sock down. This will be critical to know at night when you can't see the top of the mast from the deck. Good video!
Ron Canizares ATN makes great stuff but socks both solve and cause problems. I’ve given up on them. If the wind is to strong to get the kite down just don’t put it up.
@@danknox9986 I've never had a problem with the ATM or the North Sails equivalent sock and that includes when it was really blowing, e.g. when Doublehanding in the Newport-Bermuda Race. But one needs a really good quality sock that is the right size for the sail.
@@roncanizares9966 agreed. I have a NS asym and sock and never had an issue. Did color code the line end. I believe ATN is already different color ropes for each "side". High winds: attempt 1 cover with main. still hard, attempt 2 blow the tack. Always snubs fine. Always use a release shackle on tack line.
Nice Isbjorn Shirt!
I have had very little experience with spinnakers in general, maybe 4 times. But once was on anothers boat and it had a sock. I had same issue, it just wouldn't come down. I thought it was because of 15 to 20 knot winds. I like mine (drifter) without the sock, I was able to get it up and down solo sailing. How many times have you put it up and down? Sorry if I missed it, if you said in the video.
Sailing dead down wind in light airs is one of the worst points of sail and an unpleasant boat motion. You’ll usually make better VMG on a deep broad reach, but more importantly, that usually gives a much more pleasant boat motion.
LOL they are perfect for each other!! Ryan: OMG we have been out here for 3 weeks!!! Sophie: What are you talking about we left yesterday!!! Actual time out to sea - 10 days!!
Don‘t understand why the sock stucks? Can you explain? Was because it was full of wind or a problem up in the mast?
If you operate with the sock, please use glooves, it happens so fast, wind in the spinnaker and the sock speed up again through your hands. Don‘t get me wrong, just a tipp 😊
Scary stuff, hope you got the radar fixed!
It was just a line tangled in it, so not too bad. it's just that in the dark, we couldn't see up the mast so I had to come on the foredeck to flash a light up the radar. It didn't take to long to fix though :)
Hang in there...🌬
Do you do fishing along the way - while working with the sails etc.? 😊
Wait wait wait wait....
Are you telling me that sailors SWEAR????
😮
when in doubt - BLOW THE TACK
You guys need a set of MarriageSavers. Stat.
Right about the time all the swearing began, I thought to myself, My God, Ryan and Sophie are just like the rest of us.
Hahaha! Should we be sorry about that? 😀😉
Loved the content, but never seen so many ads in one youtube video. There must have been about 6 to 8 ads. You might want to check your settings.
This video shows two things. 1. Why we are NOT sailing, 2. Why you really should buy yourself some ‚mariage savers‘ 🧐
get a playstation or something lol I'm drunk. I've never sailed yet, but I dont think it is about forcing the wind to do what you want it to do. Why not just enjoy it. Swim off the back. grow some shrooms (reef the sails and trip), etc Sailor life. Get drunk like come' on!
P.S. get some (good) hash next time you're in morocco ;) for days like this lol
I did use Spi once...for me its a big no. too many possible messy things...a code zero is a way better solution
can you share your recipe of bread?
I will! Once I'm done editing the daily vlog (which fills my days ;)) I will create a "Transatlantic cooking ebook" !
"Are we having fun yet?"
haha, a question every sailor has asked at some point
Can you please explain to me why sailing without your main?
Because we are dead downwind, with almost no wind (8 knots) in rolly seas. The main sail would have flogged, flapped and put a lot of pressure on the rig in the process. In such light winds, the gennaker is a lot better! :)