Review: Brownells BRN-4, The HK416 We Have At Home!

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  • Опубліковано 29 сер 2023
  • Here is my full on review of the BRN 4 from ‪@brownells‬ ! One heck of a price cut for a pretty much MR556/416

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  • @jakem4579
    @jakem4579 9 місяців тому +7

    Jsyk brn-4 barrels are black nitrided not phosphated

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  9 місяців тому

      Did I not put it on the screen?

    • @jakem4579
      @jakem4579 9 місяців тому +6

      @@shootintheshtpodcastnot that I seen, you only annotated that the military version of the 416 was chrome lined

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  9 місяців тому +1

      @@jakem4579 ohhh ok, my bad I thought I put it there. I’ll pin your comment

    • @jakem4579
      @jakem4579 7 місяців тому +3

      @@shootintheshtpodcast now brownells offers chrome lined 4150 CMV manganese phosphated BRN-4 Barrels 😂 seems like providence to me

    • @MegaAndy93
      @MegaAndy93 4 місяці тому

      They have chrome lined barrels in the medium profile at 13.7 and 10.4 inches.

  • @brazzy1467
    @brazzy1467 2 місяці тому +3

    Glad that Brownells finally came out with a 13.7" CHF chrome lined barrel upper and a 13.7", 14.5", & 16" chrome lined barrel replacements. My BR-4 upper now has a 13.7" barrel.

  • @evoasus2286
    @evoasus2286 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for your perspective. I'm tempted to do an American Faux16 build and I appreciate the video on it.

  • @RiflemanLEONE
    @RiflemanLEONE 8 місяців тому +3

    Great review. I'm issued a 416 14.5 at work. We're getting ready to phase them out soon due to parts availability. I have a MR556 and a couple HK 416 10" uppers but want to definitely want to get my hands on one of these. It's a tad bit heavy but rock solid under rapid fire. And it's way easier to clean. I think the price is fairly reasonable compared to the real deal.

  • @jonathanwick1265
    @jonathanwick1265 10 місяців тому +18

    I just wish Brownells would have a done a chrome lined cold hammer forged barrel. Otherwise the HK416 we have at home is 👌

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  10 місяців тому +3

      Well Faxon mad the barrels so I believe that’s on them. Plus I was reading and I think only HK had the hammer forge machine to make the barrels for the 416 and 417.

    • @jonathanwick1265
      @jonathanwick1265 10 місяців тому +6

      @@shootintheshtpodcast Yeah only a few companies manufacture CHF barrels. It would have been though hilarious if Brownells contracted with FN to make the barrels. HK would probably not be happy. The reason we can't get actual HK chrome lined CHF barrels in the US is because of German export laws.

    • @seijiroukikuoka5975
      @seijiroukikuoka5975 9 місяців тому +3

      Nitride barrels are every bit as good as a quality CHF, though. You really don't need CHF. Nitride barrels will also give you an extra edge on accuracy.

    • @jonathanwick1265
      @jonathanwick1265 9 місяців тому +3

      @@seijiroukikuoka5975 Yet the top manufacturers like KAC, DD, FN, Geissele still go with CHF chrome lined barrels. Even LMT, Criterion, and Colt use a chrome lined barrels. Nitride is better than an unlined barrel, but nowhere near chrome lining in terms of longevity and durability. The only reason manufacturers go with nitride versus chrome is that's easier to apply consistently. I'll take a DD barrel over Faxon, Rosco, or BA any day.

    • @seijiroukikuoka5975
      @seijiroukikuoka5975 9 місяців тому

      @@jonathanwick1265 only because chrome lined fared better with fully automatic fire. Otherwise, there's no point going with chrome lining or CHF. If you plan to go full auto, I won't stop you, but if it's just semi-automatic with fast strings, you're overthinking.

  • @502outlaw2
    @502outlaw2 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks!
    Great run down.

  • @Ben-lo7cy
    @Ben-lo7cy 7 місяців тому +6

    They offer a chrome lined now

  • @djgsc9870
    @djgsc9870 4 місяці тому +1

    My BCM loves the 55grain AAC Black Tip.

  • @ChristianGrest
    @ChristianGrest 10 місяців тому +2

    I've been wanting to build one of these, but the short version. Still a lot for what it is, but different than the run of the mill stuff. Watched Adam's videos on this upper.

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  10 місяців тому

      It’s a great little upper and if I built one it’s be a 10.4 version. I’ve heard of people making the 10.4 a 300BLK which would be a good short and heavy piece, but it would be cool.

    • @MyFlexinIsAProblem
      @MyFlexinIsAProblem 5 місяців тому +1

      10.4” is the way to go 👌

  • @2ANinja
    @2ANinja 6 місяців тому +1

    I built a 16” brn-4 before they offered the complete uppers. The brownells upper had a recall so I had to send it back (still haven’t gotten it back yet 6 months later)
    I bought the legit HK upper and one of brownells 14.5” barrels and haven’t had a problem with it, other than having to get a heaver buffer for the suppressor.

    • @MyFlexinIsAProblem
      @MyFlexinIsAProblem 5 місяців тому

      Damn that’s crazy
      When I got mine they had HK 416 stripped uppers which is what I got. Perfect all the way around.

    • @2ANinja
      @2ANinja 5 місяців тому

      @@MyFlexinIsAProblem yeah the HK upper is what i have on my 14.5. Still waiting on the brownells one to ship

  • @Coodreaux_Kong
    @Coodreaux_Kong 7 місяців тому +1

    Almost bought one of these, but I saw a post on Reddit where a guy bought one and there were mill marks all over it. Also, the weight was a big turn off. I ended up getting a BRN-180 instead. It is much lighter, and I like the folding stock aspect.

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  7 місяців тому +4

      The BRN-180 is freakin amazing, the tooling marks are not bad on the ones I’ve seen. I think people just love to complain about shit on Reddit. But either way you would’ve made a good purchase

    • @Coodreaux_Kong
      @Coodreaux_Kong 7 місяців тому +2

      @@shootintheshtpodcast yeah you're right about that. All they do is complain over at Reddit.
      Really wanted one in RAL8K. Man I love that baby poop yellow 💛!

  • @MyFlexinIsAProblem
    @MyFlexinIsAProblem 5 місяців тому +1

    I got mine in December 2022. I freaking love it.
    Brownells was selling build it yourself uppers in a whole kit with HK 416 surplus stripped receivers but unfortunately only offered 14.5” and 16” barrels in those kits. They sold 10.4” barrels separately which I had to have so I ended up spending more buying all the pieces separately to build the 10.4” upper. To complete it I got a HK 416 quad rail from HK parts. The whole upper ended up costing me $1792 but I couldn’t be happier with it!
    Anyone else not a fan of the Midwest industries mlok handguards that have the little scallops all over it? I think it would look better if they didn’t cut those scallops out and it was smooth like the Geissele rails. I know it’s for weight savings and kinda their signature look but no thanks. I love the MI quad rails though.

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  5 місяців тому

      I like the scalloping because it allowed for better grip. Now I use a VFG so it really doesn’t apply, but still I like all the small things MI does that doesn’t cost a fortune

    • @MyFlexinIsAProblem
      @MyFlexinIsAProblem 5 місяців тому +1

      @@shootintheshtpodcast yeah for the money MI can’t be beat!! They’re doing awesome things.

    • @Egnatius
      @Egnatius 5 місяців тому +1

      A lot of money was spent for something that is a subpar rifle. Any $500 AR-15 will outlast it and will outperform it. On one example the teeth on the bolt carrier broke in under 1000 rounds through it so I hope your's can outlast it.

    • @MyFlexinIsAProblem
      @MyFlexinIsAProblem 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Egnatius I’ll let you know 👍
      Good thing I have a dozen AR’s already in case it breaks. Also good thing brownells has an excellent return policy.

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  5 місяців тому

      @@Egnatius have you run one?

  • @djgsc9870
    @djgsc9870 4 місяці тому +2

    I haven't found a rifle that DOESNT like the AAC 77grain!

  • @watterdude
    @watterdude 7 місяців тому +1

    Would you run one of these or a MCX Virtus? And I’m comparing it to the virtus and not the spear Lt because that’s what I have.

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  7 місяців тому

      Due to the weight of rather run a BRN-180 over both of those options. I love the BRN-4 and the Virtus is also nice, but the BRN-180 is way lighter. But if I have to choose between your two options, I’m take a BRN-4 just due to sig making people its beta testers

  • @seijiroukikuoka5975
    @seijiroukikuoka5975 9 місяців тому +5

    I hate Heckler and Kuck for how much they hate us, but I still want a 416 upper. Brownells did it right. Once my state returns to freedom, I'm copping the BRN4.

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  9 місяців тому +2

      It’s definitely a great upper, but Jesus it’s heavy

    • @seijiroukikuoka5975
      @seijiroukikuoka5975 9 місяців тому +1

      @@shootintheshtpodcast yeah, the piston system doesn't help. That's why the "medium" barrels are gonna be handy. Oh, and, if you're not so clone-oriented, carbon fiber handguards are a great alternative.

  • @davidcraft8524
    @davidcraft8524 10 місяців тому +1

    Is that the Lead & Steel LP1? If so what are your thoughts on it so far.

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  10 місяців тому +2

      Thoughts so far is I like it, but it is heavy. I’m gonna compare it to my EOTech and let you guys know my thoughts on a video soon

  • @submissionoutdoors570
    @submissionoutdoors570 10 місяців тому +1

    medium contour or heavy...what do you all think? im interested in the 10.4"

  • @hookedonguns5941
    @hookedonguns5941 10 місяців тому +1

    What buffer are you running?

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  10 місяців тому +1

      H1 with 223 and steel case, H2 for 556 but H1 works with everything, doesn’t even change ejection pattern. Also my H1 and H2 are Geissele Super 42 H1 and H1 so if you’re just running normal spring use sprinco Blue spring and H buffer

  • @XrayMike17plus1
    @XrayMike17plus1 7 місяців тому +1

    Anyone tried the BRN-4 with a BRN-180M lower? Asking because of the folding stock. Otherwise, I have a couple Mil-Spec AR lowers with LAW Folders I could use.

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  7 місяців тому +1

      You can’t run a BRN-180 lower. Has a full size BCG and requires the buffer system. So LAW is the only way you’ll get a folder

    • @XrayMike17plus1
      @XrayMike17plus1 7 місяців тому +2

      @shootintheshtpodcast Appreciate the dvice. As a short-stroke piston system, I wasn't sure if it had a buffer system or not.
      Thanks for the reply.

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  7 місяців тому +1

      @@XrayMike17plus1 no problem, the BRN-180 is internally buffered, so that doesn’t need buffer tube. I love both of my 180’s

  • @aaff3846
    @aaff3846 Місяць тому

    Do we need adjustable gas block for this or not?

  • @xz569
    @xz569 7 місяців тому +1

    The 416 does not have the problem with handguard moving forward, but it does it, when you do not set correct pressure on the set screw for the handguard. Even after heavy shooting and automatic fire usage. So can just be you are not using correct pressure on the locking screw.
    Be aware, field cleaning of this gun, does not require you to remove the handguard, as the gas system can handle shit loads before you need to start cleaning it. You leave the handguard in place, and just clean the BCG and oil it a little. And even then, you can shoot thousands of rounds before you start to see real gunk build up. IE caking of carbon on the BCG as you will see on the AR 15 DI systems.
    But the 416 is not a better "civilian" AR vs AR 15 DI. I have both the 416 and 417, and AR 15/18 and I rather take the AR 15/18(brn 180) than the 416/17. However in military service, the 416/17 every time, always! Due to running cleaner over time.
    Oh and 1:8 through multiple pipes, IE 1:8 18" the 69gr is really good. The 62 and 77 is just like your group at 100 meters. But maybe I just got terrible fabric loads.

  • @olmangarcia943
    @olmangarcia943 5 місяців тому

    Sig516>>Hk416...Sog should have kept the 516/716 piston AR and the Sig556/751 AK style rifles over the MCX

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  5 місяців тому +1

      I’ve never run one, and I wasn’t SOG. So the BRN-4 is sweet

  • @juanthelawnmowerthief1641
    @juanthelawnmowerthief1641 10 місяців тому +1

    For the price there are lighter more accurate and just as durable piston upper options.

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  10 місяців тому +1

      They are good, but the BRN-180 is cheaper and lighter. I would recommend that if you want a lighter weight alternative

    • @pilotincommand85
      @pilotincommand85 9 місяців тому

      Idk mine is comparable to my mk12..nobody believes me when I say this but it’s true it might actually be better precision..this should not be true but…

    • @MyFlexinIsAProblem
      @MyFlexinIsAProblem 5 місяців тому

      But they aren’t 416’s 😅
      Peak aesthetics

  • @pilotincommand85
    @pilotincommand85 9 місяців тому +2

    MR556’s are absolutely not going for $6k lol I bought a second one a few months back for $3200…a lot? Yes of course but it’s the real thing..but these brn4’s are literally just as good people shit on them because they don’t say HK on them but literally the same upper get it and don’t think twice..
    That’s terrible groups btw mine has better groups than my mk12..maybe I just got lucky..I’ve never used BHA 77 I exclusively use AAC 77gr SMK

  • @4g63mark
    @4g63mark 9 місяців тому +2

    We can get it "At home"??? WTF? They're for sale at Brownells

  • @Ben-lo7cy
    @Ben-lo7cy 7 місяців тому +3

    I don’t see the point unless you’re shooting the 10.5 suppressed to mitigate the gas. A 14.5/16” di gun is gonna be much lighter and accurate

    • @SUPREMEKEYRON
      @SUPREMEKEYRON 7 місяців тому +2

      Piston holds up to heat better than di

  • @SlurpingSoup
    @SlurpingSoup 5 місяців тому

    26:07 what on earth was that.

  • @user-qo3yy9nv1u
    @user-qo3yy9nv1u 9 місяців тому +2

    I wanna see a long stroke AR. Until then a 416 is sexy to me.

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  9 місяців тому +4

      PWS makes the long stroke piston ARs

    • @pilotincommand85
      @pilotincommand85 9 місяців тому

      Gross no

    • @DigD97
      @DigD97 8 місяців тому

      I know PWS makes the BRN 180. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a collaboration on this also.

    • @douglassorren9798
      @douglassorren9798 8 місяців тому +1

      @@shootintheshtpodcast They are good too. I own a couple. 👍🏻

    • @Coodreaux_Kong
      @Coodreaux_Kong 7 місяців тому

      Jakl is long stroke.

  • @crashdsnowman1
    @crashdsnowman1 29 днів тому +1

    Not the same quality and not a 416.

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  29 днів тому +1

      It’s kinda a 416/ MR556 and I think it’s got great quality. They even have chrome lined barrels for it. It’s a great option for people who don’t want to pay HK prices and all the fun of a 416

  • @ojsimpsonofficial
    @ojsimpsonofficial 7 місяців тому +2

    Just buy a 516 lol

    • @MyFlexinIsAProblem
      @MyFlexinIsAProblem 5 місяців тому

      Sold my 516 and got the 416 cuz aesthetics 😍

    • @olmangarcia943
      @olmangarcia943 5 місяців тому +1

      Man I wish they still made the 516. It was the working mans less proprietary hk416. On sale pre Rona for 400usd

    • @MyFlexinIsAProblem
      @MyFlexinIsAProblem 5 місяців тому +1

      @@olmangarcia943 right!? It was a diamond in the rough
      I paid like $900 for mine
      It was sweet but couldn’t afford to have both so sold it for the 416

  • @chunwong7205
    @chunwong7205 10 місяців тому +1

    Dont arm the crazies.

  • @randymagnum143
    @randymagnum143 7 місяців тому +2

    Well, the 416 is trash, so.......

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  7 місяців тому +1

      But the BRN4 is fun

    • @randymagnum143
      @randymagnum143 7 місяців тому +2

      @@shootintheshtpodcast I agree. The 416 is a colossal rip off of taxpayer money, however.

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  7 місяців тому

      @@randymagnum143 sure man, you do know HK doesn’t charge the government what they charge us. They’d never pay it.

    • @randymagnum143
      @randymagnum143 7 місяців тому +2

      @@shootintheshtpodcast 🤣 better check into former HK employees working in government procurement positions.

    • @MyFlexinIsAProblem
      @MyFlexinIsAProblem 5 місяців тому

      Hahaha you’re a joke

  • @d.b.1176
    @d.b.1176 5 місяців тому

    Recalled/ knockoff garbage.

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  5 місяців тому +2

      🤣🤣🤣 the whole thing wasn’t recalled, it was one part, and it’s because the threads weren’t cut, right

    • @rybaneightsix5085
      @rybaneightsix5085 Місяць тому

      Found the guy that spent 10k on an upper lmoa

    • @d.b.1176
      @d.b.1176 Місяць тому

      @@rybaneightsix5085 $3,500 for a MMR556 Paco.

  • @Egnatius
    @Egnatius 7 місяців тому +2

    416 is trash not worth it. This guy is a fanboy so not a valid review

    • @shootintheshtpodcast
      @shootintheshtpodcast  7 місяців тому +1

      I am a fan of piston systems, I wouldn’t say fanboy of the 416, I like it, but good lord it’s heavy asf

    • @MyFlexinIsAProblem
      @MyFlexinIsAProblem 5 місяців тому

      Hahahaha you’re a joke