I might be wooshing here, but H&K were there from the start... They were consultants for the XL60s barrel lining (20 years before the A2), and we're owned by BA when they bought Enfield and took over production of the A1.
As a late teenager I encountered more Mac 10/11 than I can care to admit. Guess I ran in dangerous circles as a young British man. Even saw a few Old Czech SMG's. Most common pistol was Browning Hi Points or the occasional PPK. PS.the little strap that usually hangs under the barrel is for your hand to go in...it helps you hold on to the gun.
In the mid 80s I was sent to a very discreet location in Derbyshire where I saw a couple of dozen of those lined up on a table ready to be worked on. I did ask my chaperone about them but he skillfully redirected my attention to a belt fed machine gun they were restoring for the Guards (it was either the first or very last one captured). I was then quickly handed the firearm Idbeen sent to pick up and bundled out of the door. That place has stuck in my mind for years. Often wondered what those Ingrams were doing there.
@SharpForceTrauma LOL. Far from being illicit, I assure you. I was sent there to pick up a silenced bolt action rifle that had been seized by Customs and Excise. I assumed by the way the Government workshop was camouflaged, they didn't want its location known. Although, I bet Jonathan has been there.
As a minor note, the two piece takedown screw is known in other uses as a Chicago screw. They're often found in some types of bookbindings and also used to hold furniture together. Incidentally, I was loaned an airsoft MP5K for a film shoot and the retaining pins for the backplate were missing, so I actually used two Chicago screws to replace them... 😁
@@vihaanreyansh6244 I mean, strictly speaking criminals aren't "allowed" to have these, per se. Although I wouldn't be surprised if the cops turn a blind eye to certain individuals having such things, in light of recent events.
@@wurfyy It is correct is you consider how you qualify illicit ownership of the item (if we discount police ownership); if you do not possess such an item you are not yet a criminal, once you possess the item you become a criminal. Short of committing other crimes, it is impossible to become a criminal until you possess the item, vis-à-vis only criminals are allowed to possess them.
There was one other user of the MAC10 in the UK in the '70s and '80s. The Headquarters Mobile Support Unit of the RUC and maybe some of its predecessors seem to have had some during that period in addition to their Ruger AC556s and Sterlings.
Yes and also 14th intelligence operators used them as anti PIRA ambush car guns. So if the were stopped at an IVCP - illegal vehicle checkpoint The operators could press the weapon against the inside of their door and fire. Causing instant shock & confusion to the terrorists
Can I just say that I am delighted and amazed at the advancement of the quality in this series. The lighting and sound in particular is a huge improvement over the start of the series and feels so professional that it truly makes these a joy to watch, especially with Jonathan's more relaxed and enthusiastic presentation as he has gotten more comfortable being on camera. Props to the staff and Jonathan for the continued improvement in quality of these c:
I read an article that said after the SAS did familiarization and training with the Ingram M-10, they dug a pit at the end of the firing range and buried them.
There was a tale from the early seventies that Corp of Signals drivers in N.I. (S.D.S. essentially Military Postmen) who drove around in Civvies in Austin/Morris 1800's were being equipped with these and even an anecdote about one shooting their way out of an ambush in the Creggan Area of L/Derry probably Squaddy B.S. but a lot of non standard stuff went on then.
Maybe the informer handlers (can’t remember the name) carried MP 5Ks in the late 80’s early 90’s also some of the close protection guys carried HK 53’s (really cool looking MP 5’s in 5.56)
I met a tank crew fella in Cyprus who told me he previously did plain clothes green army ops in NI and under the seat of their car they'd have a pistol, a shotgun and a mac-10.
@@jonathanferguson1211 Units like the 14 Intelligence Company, as well as the Forces Research Unit, used these. Also, I heard of 1 SBS guy using 1 to protect Lord Mountbatten. So the RMP bodyguards could have used it.
This was a very fascinating history about one of the most infamous and probably revived SMGS in the US in British hands, it's just like the Agram 2000. Thank you for providing us with this fantastic explanation of the MAC-10 Jonathan.
In a UK gangster movie Ray Winstone would yell "you fucked with Ferguson? You stupid fuckers, you don't fuck with Ferguson, he's the fucking Gun Daddy!"
Anytime I think of Ray Winston with a gun I remember that brilliantly funny "Fix Bayonets!" scene in Love, Honour & Obey (2000). I laugh like a drain every-time I see it.
I am fortunate enough to live in America and own a Cobray M11/9 submachine gun which is the 9mm version of the MAC-10. With a 1200 round per minute cyclic rate, it is a true bullet hose. If you add a barrel extension w/ foregrip, you can greatly improve the controllability. I think using an Uzi grip w/ Uzi magazines is a brilliant idea. I own an IMI Uzi and the magazines are far sturdier than those for the M11/9, which are notorious for frequent feed jams. You can also replace the metal wire stock with an AR-15 6-position collapsable stock.
It's not the 9mm version of the MAC-10, those were still MAC-10s, just like the .45 ACP models. It's more of an altered, elongated version of the MAC M11, or colloqually MAC-11, that was produced by Cobray after MAC ceased to operate. Hence, the M11/9 name; like the M11, but redesigned around the more powerful 9×19mm compared to the .380 ACP of the base design.
@@stevenbobbybills Yes, I know that. It calling it a 9mm version of the MAC-10 merely simplifies describing things. Most people cannot tell a MAC-10 from an UZI.
Each to his own. I am fortunate enough to live somewhere where people don't own this, or AR15's or even 1911's or heaven forbid "collectors" anti-tank guns. And if the kiddies don't come home from school, it's because they went to play at their mates' houses.
I wish you did a sub series on guns like this because you have that connection with police especially if you brought in officers comfortable with talking about the case
Watching Johnathan Ferguson Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries™ Museum in the UK Which Houses a Collection of Thousands of Iconic Weapons From Throughout History actually firing a weapon has such a James Bond feel to it
Saw one of these on a magnet fishing video a few years back, came up rusted beyond use from a canal. They still handed it in though. They thought they had an Uzi but I could see it was some kind of Ingram body with an Uzi grip, so I did a bit of research. I was quite surprised to find out they were made in Tunbridge Wells. I was born there & live in the area still. Hardly anyone around here had any idea these were being made here, even during the production run it wasn't widely known.
I had a JAWS MAC10 that was a blast to shoot. The factory upper was ridiculously fast and replaced it with a slow fire upper which made it more enjoyable to shoot and with the can on it it was a great gun to shoot. The Mac Man book is also a great read about the history of the gun
Thanks for making a video from this perspective, the tone set was very appropriate for the subject. The criminal (mis)use of firearms, their control and the response to it in the UK is fascinating. I saw a program some years ago about a consignment of Russian 10mm tear gas guns that were imported through the Czech Republic and converted inside the UK. It described their origins, transport and some cases they we used in around the country. The awareness and intelligence the Police have of illegal firearms is thankfully incredible which in turn makes them rare and precious to the dangerous criminals who are willing to use them.
I live locally to T-Wells and discovered this story fairly recently. This was a fascinating addition to what I had learned. Interestingly, there used to be a very good firearms manufacturer based just up the road in Tonbridge, called RPA. They made, among many other fascinating products, good target rifles ( the Canadian Cadet team were issued with them in amazing coloured Canadian flag stocks!) and a few hunting rifles. They were also developing some serious military and security forces style weaponry. I was fortunate enough to go on a factory tour with a load of students from our school shooting club and we were shown several extraordinary firearms. One was a .50 cal rifle with a Massive moderator on it, which when stood up on its stock, made it look like a lamp post!! It was huge. Do you have any of their stuff in the collection I wonder? It would be interesting to see if you do.
RPA are still going (under the name RPA International), but they're located in Warwickshire nowadays. Their 'Rangemaster' sniper rifle is in service with a few small nations and forces, and the Quadlock and Quadlite target rifles are popular favourites in the precision shooting world.
@@someduckwithanultimax6549 Thank you so much for the informative reply! Much appreciated. I have very fond memories of being shown around their Tonbridge facility several years ago now. We took a bunch Cadets from Tonbridge School, where I helped run the shooting club for many years. The boys thought Christmas had come early! Eyes on stalks. Very funny. The .50 cal rifle we were shown was something else!! I remember it being very heavy and that huge moderator on the end was insane! The other thing we were shown was a version of a covert handgun holder that used a small TV screen and camera for aiming and the gun clamped into the front section with a left and right moveable hinge. It was designed to shoot around corners without exposing the shooter to direct gunfire! Based on an Israeli design but I believe being updated and improved for UK covert work. Very clever if odd! It had a length adjustable skeleton stock and pistol grip and I think was adaptable for different makes of hand gun. I seem to recall the one we saw had a Glock 17 fitted. Glad they are still in business. The MD was a nice man who wanted to help the school shooting team, but despite trying to produce a very competitive discount, our budget wouldn't stretch to their rifles and we were not able to use any other rifles in cadet comps other than the good old Parker Hale TR's.....still being used to this day. We would have LOVED to have RPA rifles!! The Canadian team did and still do I believe. Thanks again. 😊👍🏻
@@lawrencemartin1113 RPA's target rifle is based on the SWING four-lug action - I use a Paramount TR, from the 90s, with the same basic design but a slightly older example and not quite as fancy. RPA really are at the top of the field, alongside G+E in Switzerland, and their sights in particular are regarded by many as the best on the market! I have seen a few of the more expensive public school shooting teams equipped with four-lug actions (Swings, Paramounts and RPAs) and they easily outshoot the CTRs (which were never great designs but are nowadays thoroughly obsolete as well as out of production), but, as you say, they can't use those for cadet competitions. If money were no object, I'd probably use an RPA myself, but as it stands I'm happy with what I can afford to shoot!
@@someduckwithanultimax6549Ha! The club owns two SWING TR's and a rather old but perfectly serviceable Paramount as well! My predecessor owned these rifles and clearly had struck up a relationship with the MD at RPA! He used them for F Class at Bisley, as well as stuff on Century out to 600. I now understand the link through your info....thanks again! Despite running the club and attending countless Ashburton trips over the 34 years in the job, my own shooting interests tend towards stalking and with small bore stuff, pest control and small game. (Alongside a lot of clay shooting!!) I still support the club part time and hugely enjoy coaching and seeing the boys progress from having never fired a rifle, through to excellent marksmen over their time with us. 😊
I have a (still) deactivated SF Firearms M-10. With a serial number not far from the example shown in this video but before being deactivated it was a selective fire version. It came with a nice carry case full of goodies such as spare magazines and the classic huge suppressor that because of its external appearance prompted the militaria dealer I got it from to say to me "Hey Steve, do you want to buy a laptop?"
@@sheikhnasrullah6536 Thanks for the offer but I'd like to hang onto it. Besides, it's an old spec UK deact so while I can still own it I can't sell it.
@@MrSloika Nope. I daresay no-one becomes a firearms specialist in the police or the military, although it's a great place to start and provides practical experience that I have little of (but then most firearms historians and museum people lack that background because they chose a different career path). I learned the same way as most specialists - simply by examining a LOT of guns, reading a lot of primary and secondary sources, and learning a lot from researchers, curators and collectors more knowledgeable than myself.
Kent and East Sussex have always had a less respectable darker side. Interestingly, Tunbridge Wells lies on the borders of both. To this day, the Kent/Sussex border stone can be seen on the pavement outside the Charles the Martyr church, by the Pantiles.
There is a similar variant of Ingram bolt available on the market for the last couple decades. It has a groove cut in for the extractor and uses a newer claw style extractor. The difference is that it’s located at the center of the bolt, not all the way at the top like this one.
Don't know if you read your comments, but YT channel Brandon Herrera recently got to fire and malfunction a Gyrojet with ultra slow motion. It is an amazing watch and concept for a gun. Thanks for the content here and via GameSpot :)
To quote Who Dares Wins, "LIVE BASTARDS! Dead soldiers." Always clear your corners. I know this gun because of Lewis Collins, 80s drug wars and Cyperpunk 2013. Thank you for an in depth review of one of the pop culture weapons of my childhood.
There was a version of the Leader that used UZI magazines too. I am only aware of a few examples being made before they folded after the events of '96. One is definitely in the hands of a movie armorer here as it was in a B grade movie made a few years ago here. Though being a carbine, the UZI mags loaded into a magwell forward of the grip into the base of the receiver.
Have you guys got "The Defender" from Northern Ireland during the troubles..... Apparently two engineers had the drawings to the UZI and they were trying to make them in their garden shed. They serialized them and it was I guess considered the best made homemade gun
I remember seeing an article from the mid 70s of Official IRA members posing with a MAC-10 they had managed to capture from British undercover forces in Belfast.
There's a guy on youtube called gareth bryer who has a magnet fishing youtube channel. On one of his video's he pulled out one of those Mac 10's with the UZI grip conversions, it was pulled out of enfield lock in London allong with the magazine and 2 knives.
That shoulder stock seems to be from a Leader Dynamics assault rifle made in Australia. Is that where they sourced them? Edit - watched to end, yes it is!
@@zoiders That's probably true, but I haven't seen it anywhere else but as an MP5 or other H&K stock, and that one for the British MAC. Do you have any examples? Genuinely interested. The other closest thing I can think of is that plastic stock-set for the SKS by Combat Exchange, and the folder is similar but not identical to the PDW stock. Looking at Choate's stocks for SKSs, Mini-14s, and M1 Carbines, they all look a bit different.
Stock is actually not a Dealer Dynamics T2Mk5 stock. Those are marked "Leader" on the rubber butt plate. It is a stock of an Australian Automatic Arms SAR or SAC, these have no markings on the butt. Other than the markings they are identical - hence your confusion.
A lot of people consider this design as not vert successful as it was not used in large amounts by militaries. Due to the simple design, I find it a very successful design. About 20 years ago I remember someone was making a new version called the VMAC. All new construction. In the US civilian market, Masterpiece Arms keeps putting out new ones as well, including it in 5.7mm. This design just keeps coming back over and over.
Great video, there’s not enough out there about these legendary guns. That is a very early gun he’s shooting, 71-72 Powder springs gun. Edit: VERY happy to hear the MACMAN book plugged in this video. If you are even remotely interested in the MAC, that book is a must have. Even if you just like LOOKING at these guns, it’s full of so many great pictures. Highly recommended book!! All of Franks books are great. There are no other variants with the micro Uzi grip, but there are many M10s with aftermarket Uzi magwells, full size Uzi magwells, due to easier and lower priced availability of Uzi mags. Are you sure that semi gun is closed bolt?? You never racked the action.. the presence of the sear pin, despite lack of a selector switch.. and that sliding safety leads me to believe it is an open bolt semi auto, Not Closed bolt
I have no interest in guns and I came across this video by chance. It’s made me realise how complex and challenging it is to know anything about guns or have subject expertise - so many tiny variations and technical details. Made a good job of presenting potentially very dull details into an engaging video. Thanks 🙏
Most did. The two main People's Lobby terrorists Frankie Leith (Judy Davis) and Rod Walker (John Duttine) at the embassy seige were armed with Beretta PM-12 SMGs, while all of the others at the embassy had MAC-10s.
I had a go with a Mac 5 while on an armourers course at Bordon. We had to use the suppresor as a safety measure (something to hold on to). On my next course they had all been withdrawn with severe cracking so I was told. Good fun though and the quickest consumer of 9 mil I have ever experienced.
I’m more impressed by the Casio databank on your wrist, haven’t seen one of those since I traded mine in when the Casio tv remote control watch came out….ohhh the fun I had standing outside Dixons turning the volume right up on the tvs in the window 😂😂
Totally off topic but I found a Currys fairly recently where the PA system had a WiFi accessable i/p I gave it a few seconds of non controvercial music to test it out from my phone and then left it alone. Still working on a suitable play list for nextime. Could be fun 🙂
Only royals, military and "special people" in the UK get to fire this weapon. However, I've shot a couple versions at my local range (owned by another range member) in the United States. Fun shooting weapon. The gun grabbers here hate it!! 😂😂 The 'West' Midland Firearms are now licensed to a company in my home state, in West Virginia. Theyre current building versions.
This is rather revealing. Up till now, I have only seen this weapon in movies and in Time Magazine in the late 1980s in an article about cheap available guns.
I have always wanted a collection of Macs. .380 9MM .45 So Jonathan, as it is my birthday on 26th of this month you have just got time to post to me a selection of originals. Thank you in advance.
One of the main issues regarding the illegal conversions was: A barrel in U.K. law does not become a barrel until a chamber is cut into the barrel. So it’s legal to buy 9mm rifled barrel then simply buy the equally legal chamber reamer to cut the chamber. Also a bullet is not a bullet in U.K. law until it’s assembled. So the cases, heads, powder, primers, press, auto primer tools are all legal to buy. A company called R.I.F.L.E Regional Instaturation Firearms Little Eaton was raided for supplying deactivated weapons alongside the equipment to re activate them. The owners were jailed.
Saw a picture drawing of the mac10 being used with that strap clenched in the fingers of the shooting hand. It was in some sort of 1980s sof style magazine/ or maybe one of those “SAS survival handbooks”.
Kind of surprised that none of the UK M10 companies decided to just give the ban affected models a rechamber for .22lr and a slightly longer barrel, as with the solid stock and a longer barrel, that would've allowed them to keep selling in the UK post-ban without needing to deactivate, and also not put them out of the money and work already used to make the unsold guns. All in all though, interesting to see all these models.
It does seem incongruous that the British version of the MAC-10 is from the home of "Annoyed of Tunbridge Wells". I expect they wrote stiff letters to their MP & The Times.
No, they'd do that for shops that sold pellet guns or air rifles. To this day most people living there have no idea there was a factory making automatic weapons in one of the units on the industrial estate. It must have all been very low key.
"This is outrageous! I shall write to my MP." "You don't have an MP, Rick, you're an anarchist." "Then I shall write to the lead singer of Echo and the Bunnymen. 'Dear... Mister... Echo.'"
For basically the only civilian with full auto firearm access in the whole of the UK, he sure looks annoyed instead of excited when he gets to shoot these guns lol
Just concentrating so I don't cock anything up :) There are a fair number of Section 5 types out there other than me. Not many in the scheme of things but more than you might think.
@@jonathanferguson1211 I live in mainland europe, and Ive handled a bunch of mp40, pps43, ak47 etc full autos. given, europe is supposed to be anti gun, there sure are a lot of licensed, responsible civvie noisemakers out there.
Definitely not many with anything like regular access to full auto even with the licensing - I know a few who've got some nice toys i.e. one of my dad's friends owns farms in the south and an estate in Scotland and has managed to wrangle all kinds of stuff on their license, but nothing fully automatic.
@@matthewkeith8605Mac 10s are like the fast food versions of submachine guns. It just looks good in pictures. Nothing about them is quite right. It's like someone tried to make a gun all bad and then succeeded beyond all their hopes and dreams. It's all sharp corners. It's all unergonomic. It's got bad sights, a bad trigger, bad safety, bad cocking setup, bad stock, bad I don't know what you would call it on a Mac but every other gun it's a cheek rest. On a Mac it's the damn thing in the way of you getting some kind of sight picture. Worse it feels like trying to guess what it's going to do next. Russian roulette with 6 loaded chambers. Will it try to shoot your hand off? Will it try to shoot the ceiling? Will it try to shoot the floor next? Which wall is it now trying to aim at? But hey maybe it will hit the target eventually. Which is all stuff you never want in a firearm. It's like they took everything good out and somehow just left the heavy and bad.
3:34 "It's kind of inherently inaccurate, even if you're not a museum curator trying to shoot it." *Cuts to a clip of Johnathan shooting an M10 in full auto from the hip, and then a substandard grouping on a target.* Well yes, pretty much any gun you shoot full auto from the hip is going to be "inherently inaccurate." But if you switch to semi-auto and use the sights, it will be much more accurate, at least comparable to other SMGs with similar barrel length/ergonomics. Granted, the sights on an M10 aren't the greatest, but they're still perfectly useable. So it's not "inherently inaccurate" if you use it like other SMGs.
"What I'm looking for is someone who can contribute to what England has given to the world: culture, sophistication, genius. A little bit more than an hot dog, know what I mean?"
I mean our engineers and scientists have delivered the world over already. Phones, refrigeration, atomic energy its not like hot dogs are our biggest achievement lmao 😂
Having once owned an actual Leader in semi automatic (sadly confiscated by John Howard in his great gun steal-back), I recognised that fixed stock immediately!
Yank here, I've seen a few Mac-10/11 with Uzi grips/mags. Ironically the only time I shot a legit full-auto RPB-10, it had the Uzi conversion done. Note that I say conversion, as I don't think any company made a M10 style gun with it, besides yours of-course lol
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Jonathan has the single best job in the world.
Right? Every time I try to burst-fire an SMG in a back room at the office people use hurtful words like "felony"
Well, certainly the best job in the WHOLE UK, anyway.
I honestly can't think of a better one.
The Royal Armouries is a genuinely awesome place too, I'd work there cleaning the toilets if I could afford to haha
@@moosemaimer Like that's the only reason😉
Just for a moment, I was expecting to see Jonathon slowly vanish behind a steadily increasing pile of Mac 10s.
The Ingram Model 10-foot wall
Last time I was this early, H&K had no affiliation with the SA80!
I might be wooshing here, but H&K were there from the start...
They were consultants for the XL60s barrel lining (20 years before the A2), and we're owned by BA when they bought Enfield and took over production of the A1.
@@pluemas you are wooshing, but you did so with grace, you are pardoned
@@johnsmith-jq1uc bruv was so early he was here decades before this video was published.
Just been squatting on a random youtube address, waiting.
@@pluemas Living here in peace for 40 years, I have! How would YOU like it if I came 'round your UA-cam address spoutin' off about submachine guns?!
fard balls
"Creative Gunsmithing" sounds like a feature Jonathan would be upset about them adding to the latest Call of Duty game
Creative gunsmithing, in a supposed military game?
Or you mean the modern cod?
CoD is airsoft that used to try to pantomime being real.
As a late teenager I encountered more Mac 10/11 than I can care to admit. Guess I ran in dangerous circles as a young British man. Even saw a few Old Czech SMG's. Most common pistol was Browning Hi Points or the occasional PPK. PS.the little strap that usually hangs under the barrel is for your hand to go in...it helps you hold on to the gun.
In the United States, the equivalent company would be named "Bubba'ed inc."
Sounds to me like a manual/book drawn up by P.A. Luty's son.
In the mid 80s I was sent to a very discreet location in Derbyshire where I saw a couple of dozen of those lined up on a table ready to be worked on. I did ask my chaperone about them but he skillfully redirected my attention to a belt fed machine gun they were restoring for the Guards (it was either the first or very last one captured). I was then quickly handed the firearm Idbeen sent to pick up and bundled out of the door. That place has stuck in my mind for years. Often wondered what those Ingrams were doing there.
Are you admitting to an illicit arms deal in a youtube comments section or are you leaving out some very important details? 😂
@SharpForceTrauma LOL. Far from being illicit, I assure you. I was sent there to pick up a silenced bolt action rifle that had been seized by Customs and Excise. I assumed by the way the Government workshop was camouflaged, they didn't want its location known. Although, I bet Jonathan has been there.
Special air service were issued Mac-10s before they got the MP5. .
@@derekcole5593 Ahhh, I see lol
@@iainwilliam3187If they replace the MAC-10 with MP5, do they need twice as many?
I love how it looks like Jonathan is just test firing this thing in an office.
Thats because it is his 'Other Office'
As a minor note, the two piece takedown screw is known in other uses as a Chicago screw. They're often found in some types of bookbindings and also used to hold furniture together. Incidentally, I was loaned an airsoft MP5K for a film shoot and the retaining pins for the backplate were missing, so I actually used two Chicago screws to replace them... 😁
nice.
Thank you! My nephew has managed to lose one of the screws from his airsoft MP5K (because teenage boy), so this is relevant to my interests.
Such screws are also commonly used on leather goods, such as holsters.
Also known as sex bolts.
@@matthewkeith8605 if ur looking for it in a hardware store (at least in US) more likely to b known as a sexbolt.
It’s always a treat when we get to see Jonathan getting to shoot a gun.
It's a shame most law abiding British citizens are denied the same "treat"...
Even if he always looks oddly out of place and uncomfortable.
@@Jreb1865 Yep, only cops and criminals allowed guns like these now.
@@vihaanreyansh6244 I mean, strictly speaking criminals aren't "allowed" to have these, per se. Although I wouldn't be surprised if the cops turn a blind eye to certain individuals having such things, in light of recent events.
@@wurfyy It is correct is you consider how you qualify illicit ownership of the item (if we discount police ownership); if you do not possess such an item you are not yet a criminal, once you possess the item you become a criminal. Short of committing other crimes, it is impossible to become a criminal until you possess the item, vis-à-vis only criminals are allowed to possess them.
There was one other user of the MAC10 in the UK in the '70s and '80s. The Headquarters Mobile Support Unit of the RUC and maybe some of its predecessors seem to have had some during that period in addition to their Ruger AC556s and Sterlings.
Yes and also 14th intelligence operators used them as anti PIRA ambush car guns.
So if the were stopped at an IVCP - illegal vehicle checkpoint
The operators could press the weapon against the inside of their door and fire.
Causing instant shock & confusion to the terrorists
Can I just say that I am delighted and amazed at the advancement of the quality in this series. The lighting and sound in particular is a huge improvement over the start of the series and feels so professional that it truly makes these a joy to watch, especially with Jonathan's more relaxed and enthusiastic presentation as he has gotten more comfortable being on camera. Props to the staff and Jonathan for the continued improvement in quality of these c:
I read an article that said after the SAS did familiarization and training with the Ingram M-10, they dug a pit at the end of the firing range and buried them.
As they should. I would rather have a standard pistol than one of those death traps.
@@curtisevans8413They would come in handy now to take care of the immigration problem.
They built houses in the old S.A.S HQ in Hereford. let's hope they weren't unearthed
There was a tale from the early seventies that Corp of Signals drivers in N.I. (S.D.S. essentially Military Postmen) who drove around in Civvies in Austin/Morris 1800's were being equipped with these and even an anecdote about one shooting their way out of an ambush in the Creggan Area of L/Derry probably Squaddy B.S. but a lot of non standard stuff went on then.
I wouldn't rule it out. Even as I said that SF were the only user I was thinking "should I say "official user"?....."
It does sound like a normal squaddy tale
Maybe the informer handlers (can’t remember the name) carried MP 5Ks in the late 80’s early 90’s also some of the close protection guys carried HK 53’s (really cool looking MP 5’s in 5.56)
I met a tank crew fella in Cyprus who told me he previously did plain clothes green army ops in NI and under the seat of their car they'd have a pistol, a shotgun and a mac-10.
@@jonathanferguson1211 Units like the 14 Intelligence Company, as well as the Forces Research Unit, used these. Also, I heard of 1 SBS guy using 1 to protect Lord Mountbatten. So the RMP bodyguards could have used it.
If you and Ian did "A History of Improvised, Covert, and Criminal Small Arms".
I'd buy the 1st copy off of your Kickstarter offer.
This was a very fascinating history about one of the most infamous and probably revived SMGS in the US in British hands, it's just like the Agram 2000. Thank you for providing us with this fantastic explanation of the MAC-10 Jonathan.
With all the phone booths in the UK, I can see why the MAC-10 is favored there.
I only know of one remaining phone booth in my town. I even saw it being used once. As a toilet.
Are you still in 1987?
@@TC2290-wh5cb If you ever traveled a bit further, you'll know that your phone battery isnt the most reliable thing
@@ErwinPommel
Last one I saw was covered in ads for escorts
There are NONE in my hometown so....
In a UK gangster movie Ray Winstone would yell "you fucked with Ferguson? You stupid fuckers, you don't fuck with Ferguson, he's the fucking Gun Daddy!"
"Why are you swearing, I'm not swearing"
Johnathan Ferguson is fucking gun daddy even in the US.
Anytime I think of Ray Winston with a gun I remember that brilliantly funny "Fix Bayonets!" scene in Love, Honour & Obey (2000). I laugh like a drain every-time I see it.
@@Getpojke it's superb.
John “The Mac” Ferguson has Desert Eagle .50 written down the side of his MAC-10
I am fortunate enough to live in America and own a Cobray M11/9 submachine gun which is the 9mm version of the MAC-10. With a 1200 round per minute cyclic rate, it is a true bullet hose. If you add a barrel extension w/ foregrip, you can greatly improve the controllability. I think using an Uzi grip w/ Uzi magazines is a brilliant idea. I own an IMI Uzi and the magazines are far sturdier than those for the M11/9, which are notorious for frequent feed jams. You can also replace the metal wire stock with an AR-15 6-position collapsable stock.
You're speaking Greek to them.
It's not the 9mm version of the MAC-10, those were still MAC-10s, just like the .45 ACP models. It's more of an altered, elongated version of the MAC M11, or colloqually MAC-11, that was produced by Cobray after MAC ceased to operate. Hence, the M11/9 name; like the M11, but redesigned around the more powerful 9×19mm compared to the .380 ACP of the base design.
@@stevenbobbybills Yes, I know that. It calling it a 9mm version of the MAC-10 merely simplifies describing things. Most people cannot tell a MAC-10 from an UZI.
Each to his own. I am fortunate enough to live somewhere where people don't own this, or AR15's or even 1911's or heaven forbid "collectors" anti-tank guns. And if the kiddies don't come home from school, it's because they went to play at their mates' houses.
@@dougerrohmer I don't live in the United States either, but really, what do you get out of this? It's childish.
i just love you you keep reaching down and picking up more and more it's almost comedic
Did not expect shooting it in the first 10 secs, what an iconic firearm
I wish you did a sub series on guns like this because you have that connection with police especially if you brought in officers comfortable with talking about the case
Same iconic “wardrobe” no matter what weapon he’s firing….legend.
Watching Johnathan Ferguson Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries™ Museum in the UK Which Houses a Collection of Thousands of Iconic Weapons From Throughout History actually firing a weapon has such a James Bond feel to it
He would be an awesome Q
Saw one of these on a magnet fishing video a few years back, came up rusted beyond use from a canal. They still handed it in though. They thought they had an Uzi but I could see it was some kind of Ingram body with an Uzi grip, so I did a bit of research.
I was quite surprised to find out they were made in Tunbridge Wells. I was born there & live in the area still. Hardly anyone around here had any idea these were being made here, even during the production run it wasn't widely known.
Yes Gareth bryer pulled one out a few years back from Enfield Lock.
I had a JAWS MAC10 that was a blast to shoot. The factory upper was ridiculously fast and replaced it with a slow fire upper which made it more enjoyable to shoot and with the can on it it was a great gun to shoot.
The Mac Man book is also a great read about the history of the gun
Thanks for making a video from this perspective, the tone set was very appropriate for the subject. The criminal (mis)use of firearms, their control and the response to it in the UK is fascinating. I saw a program some years ago about a consignment of Russian 10mm tear gas guns that were imported through the Czech Republic and converted inside the UK. It described their origins, transport and some cases they we used in around the country. The awareness and intelligence the Police have of illegal firearms is thankfully incredible which in turn makes them rare and precious to the dangerous criminals who are willing to use them.
Thank you! It's a difficult line to tread but hopefully I managed it.
I live locally to T-Wells and discovered this story fairly recently. This was a fascinating addition to what I had learned. Interestingly, there used to be a very good firearms manufacturer based just up the road in Tonbridge, called RPA. They made, among many other fascinating products, good target rifles ( the Canadian Cadet team were issued with them in amazing coloured Canadian flag stocks!) and a few hunting rifles. They were also developing some serious military and security forces style weaponry. I was fortunate enough to go on a factory tour with a load of students from our school shooting club and we were shown several extraordinary firearms. One was a .50 cal rifle with a Massive moderator on it, which when stood up on its stock, made it look like a lamp post!! It was huge.
Do you have any of their stuff in the collection I wonder? It would be interesting to see if you do.
If it ever existed, the Pattern Room probably has one.
RPA are still going (under the name RPA International), but they're located in Warwickshire nowadays. Their 'Rangemaster' sniper rifle is in service with a few small nations and forces, and the Quadlock and Quadlite target rifles are popular favourites in the precision shooting world.
@@someduckwithanultimax6549 Thank you so much for the informative reply! Much appreciated. I have very fond memories of being shown around their Tonbridge facility several years ago now. We took a bunch Cadets from Tonbridge School, where I helped run the shooting club for many years. The boys thought Christmas had come early! Eyes on stalks. Very funny. The .50 cal rifle we were shown was something else!! I remember it being very heavy and that huge moderator on the end was insane!
The other thing we were shown was a version of a covert handgun holder that used a small TV screen and camera for aiming and the gun clamped into the front section with a left and right moveable hinge. It was designed to shoot around corners without exposing the shooter to direct gunfire! Based on an Israeli design but I believe being updated and improved for UK covert work. Very clever if odd! It had a length adjustable skeleton stock and pistol grip and I think was adaptable for different makes of hand gun. I seem to recall the one we saw had a Glock 17 fitted.
Glad they are still in business. The MD was a nice man who wanted to help the school shooting team, but despite trying to produce a very competitive discount, our budget wouldn't stretch to their rifles and we were not able to use any other rifles in cadet comps other than the good old Parker Hale TR's.....still being used to this day. We would have LOVED to have RPA rifles!! The Canadian team did and still do I believe. Thanks again. 😊👍🏻
@@lawrencemartin1113 RPA's target rifle is based on the SWING four-lug action - I use a Paramount TR, from the 90s, with the same basic design but a slightly older example and not quite as fancy. RPA really are at the top of the field, alongside G+E in Switzerland, and their sights in particular are regarded by many as the best on the market!
I have seen a few of the more expensive public school shooting teams equipped with four-lug actions (Swings, Paramounts and RPAs) and they easily outshoot the CTRs (which were never great designs but are nowadays thoroughly obsolete as well as out of production), but, as you say, they can't use those for cadet competitions.
If money were no object, I'd probably use an RPA myself, but as it stands I'm happy with what I can afford to shoot!
@@someduckwithanultimax6549Ha! The club owns two SWING TR's and a rather old but perfectly serviceable Paramount as well! My predecessor owned these rifles and clearly had struck up a relationship with the MD at RPA! He used them for F Class at Bisley, as well as stuff on Century out to 600.
I now understand the link through your info....thanks again!
Despite running the club and attending countless Ashburton trips over the 34 years in the job, my own shooting interests tend towards stalking and with small bore stuff, pest control and small game. (Alongside a lot of clay shooting!!) I still support the club part time and hugely enjoy coaching and seeing the boys progress from having never fired a rifle, through to excellent marksmen over their time with us. 😊
I have a (still) deactivated SF Firearms M-10. With a serial number not far from the example shown in this video but before being deactivated it was a selective fire version. It came with a nice carry case full of goodies such as spare magazines and the classic huge suppressor that because of its external appearance prompted the militaria dealer I got it from to say to me "Hey Steve, do you want to buy a laptop?"
Perhaps he said that because it's a Mac :)
@@Serbokrat 😁
You want to sell it?
Couple of grand for you if you do.
@@sheikhnasrullah6536 Thanks for the offer but I'd like to hang onto it. Besides, it's an old spec UK deact so while I can still own it I can't sell it.
I emailed and requested a MAC 10 edition show... Hurrah! Thank you Jonathan 🍻
So much fun in such a tiny package!! Thanks for the video, Jonathan!
“Blank firers don’t have the groove.” True. So true.
Brilliant video Jonathan. Really enjoyed learning about the criminal aspect too. Would be great if you could cover more stories such as this.
Nothing so Brit as seeing a well-manicured someone wearing a suit jacket and firing an SMG.
Ha, probably true, although I haven't had a manicure in my life - just cushy civilian jobs :)
@@jonathanferguson1211 I'm curious as to where you acquired this firearms knowledge. Were you in the police or military?
@@MrSloika Nope. I daresay no-one becomes a firearms specialist in the police or the military, although it's a great place to start and provides practical experience that I have little of (but then most firearms historians and museum people lack that background because they chose a different career path). I learned the same way as most specialists - simply by examining a LOT of guns, reading a lot of primary and secondary sources, and learning a lot from researchers, curators and collectors more knowledgeable than myself.
Seeing the words 'Tunbridge Wells' on the side of any weapon, let alone a MAC-10! 🤯
Kent and East Sussex have always had a less respectable darker side. Interestingly, Tunbridge Wells lies on the borders of both. To this day, the Kent/Sussex border stone can be seen on the pavement outside the Charles the Martyr church, by the Pantiles.
I could listen to this fella for hours. So learned and interesting. 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
On the subject of underground gunsmiths I'd be really interested a video about the guns made by Philip Luty.
Amazing, thank you for making such a brilliantly engaging video, can't wait to see more!
"What is this weapon?"
AHEM...
An excellent lesson on finger control
its an angry box spewing lead
It's supposed to have the silencer fitted
There is a similar variant of Ingram bolt available on the market for the last couple decades. It has a groove cut in for the extractor and uses a newer claw style extractor. The difference is that it’s located at the center of the bolt, not all the way at the top like this one.
That's the type i owned around 1995 , this is the first time I've ever seen one since, I don't remember the Uzi grip though.
Fantastic video, the MAC-10 is really a icon of the 80s and 90s, and it's history in British use is fascinating to learn about!
Makes me think of Miami Vice. Speaking of Miami Vice, I'd like to see a video about the Bren Ten.
Don't know if you read your comments, but YT channel Brandon Herrera recently got to fire and malfunction a Gyrojet with ultra slow motion. It is an amazing watch and concept for a gun. Thanks for the content here and via GameSpot :)
To quote Who Dares Wins, "LIVE BASTARDS! Dead soldiers." Always clear your corners.
I know this gun because of Lewis Collins, 80s drug wars and Cyperpunk 2013. Thank you for an in depth review of one of the pop culture weapons of my childhood.
There was a version of the Leader that used UZI magazines too. I am only aware of a few examples being made before they folded after the events of '96. One is definitely in the hands of a movie armorer here as it was in a B grade movie made a few years ago here. Though being a carbine, the UZI mags loaded into a magwell forward of the grip into the base of the receiver.
Have you guys got "The Defender" from Northern Ireland during the troubles.....
Apparently two engineers had the drawings to the UZI and they were trying to make them in their garden shed.
They serialized them and it was I guess considered the best made homemade gun
I remember seeing an article from the mid 70s of Official IRA members posing with a MAC-10 they had managed to capture from British undercover forces in Belfast.
There's a guy on youtube called gareth bryer who has a magnet
fishing youtube channel. On one of his video's he pulled out
one of those Mac 10's with the UZI grip conversions, it was
pulled out of enfield lock in London allong with the magazine
and 2 knives.
That shoulder stock seems to be from a Leader Dynamics assault rifle made in Australia. Is that where they sourced them? Edit - watched to end, yes it is!
I have seen pictures of one of these with the Choate folding plastic stock you'd see on the MP5K's "PDW" models.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Choate used that folder on quite a few weapons before the PDW.
@@zoiders That's probably true, but I haven't seen it anywhere else but as an MP5 or other H&K stock, and that one for the British MAC. Do you have any examples? Genuinely interested.
The other closest thing I can think of is that plastic stock-set for the SKS by Combat Exchange, and the folder is similar but not identical to the PDW stock. Looking at Choate's stocks for SKSs, Mini-14s, and M1 Carbines, they all look a bit different.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine I think you need to read the chapter catalogue then.
Stock is actually not a Dealer Dynamics T2Mk5 stock. Those are marked "Leader" on the rubber butt plate. It is a stock of an Australian Automatic Arms SAR or SAC, these have no markings on the butt. Other than the markings they are identical - hence your confusion.
Johnathan ferguson is about to rush b on the eco round. Also holding on to that strap seems so scary
A lot of people consider this design as not vert successful as it was not used in large amounts by militaries. Due to the simple design, I find it a very successful design. About 20 years ago I remember someone was making a new version called the VMAC. All new construction. In the US civilian market, Masterpiece Arms keeps putting out new ones as well, including it in 5.7mm. This design just keeps coming back over and over.
Yes, it keeps coming back..like an antibiotic resistant social disease.
@@MrSloika Ha, I am sure it is just because it is simple and can function with a loss quality tolerance.
Great video, there’s not enough out there about these legendary guns. That is a very early gun he’s shooting, 71-72 Powder springs gun. Edit: VERY happy to hear the MACMAN book plugged in this video. If you are even remotely interested in the MAC, that book is a must have. Even if you just like LOOKING at these guns, it’s full of so many great pictures. Highly recommended book!! All of Franks books are great.
There are no other variants with the micro Uzi grip, but there are many M10s with aftermarket Uzi magwells, full size Uzi magwells, due to easier and lower priced availability of Uzi mags.
Are you sure that semi gun is closed bolt?? You never racked the action.. the presence of the sear pin, despite lack of a selector switch.. and that sliding safety leads me to believe it is an open bolt semi auto, Not Closed bolt
I have no interest in guns and I came across this video by chance. It’s made me realise how complex and challenging it is to know anything about guns or have subject expertise - so many tiny variations and technical details. Made a good job of presenting potentially very dull details into an engaging video. Thanks 🙏
I remember maybe 10 years ago an accomplice opening a boot and showing me me one of these. I was both in awe and terrified at the same time
The only Mac Attack I ever saw was in NZ.....it used to be a Big Mac meal with two Big Macs 😂😂
I love all the technical details tho as always 😊😊
I seem to recall that the terrorists in the movie "Who Dares Wins" used the Ingram.
I always hark back to dozens of Miami Vice episodes.
Most did.
The two main People's Lobby terrorists Frankie Leith (Judy Davis) and Rod Walker (John Duttine) at the embassy seige were armed with Beretta PM-12 SMGs, while all of the others at the embassy had MAC-10s.
This thing kitted up with a supressor, carbine-length barrel, rails and optic is just completely insane.
I had a go with a Mac 5 while on an armourers course at Bordon. We had to use the suppresor as a safety measure (something to hold on to). On my next course they had all been withdrawn with severe cracking so I was told. Good fun though and the quickest consumer of 9 mil I have ever experienced.
Mac 10...my typo.
I’m more impressed by the Casio databank on your wrist, haven’t seen one of those since I traded mine in when the Casio tv remote control watch came out….ohhh the fun I had standing outside Dixons turning the volume right up on the tvs in the window 😂😂
Totally off topic but I found a Currys fairly recently where the PA system had a WiFi accessable i/p I gave it a few seconds of non controvercial music to test it out from my phone and then left it alone. Still working on a suitable play list for nextime. Could be fun 🙂
For a second in the intro I thought there was a second Jonathan behind him for a second.
seeing you here makes me think an mod might be in the works. so hi
@@Matt-md5yt we already made a mac what do you mean?
Only royals, military and "special people" in the UK get to fire this weapon. However, I've shot a couple versions at my local range (owned by another range member) in the United States. Fun shooting weapon. The gun grabbers here hate it!! 😂😂
The 'West' Midland Firearms are now licensed to a company in my home state, in West Virginia. Theyre current building versions.
Cringe.
This is rather revealing. Up till now, I have only seen this weapon in movies and in Time Magazine in the late 1980s in an article about cheap available guns.
I have always wanted a collection of Macs.
.380 9MM .45
So Jonathan, as it is my birthday on 26th of this month you have just got time to post to me a selection of originals.
Thank you in advance.
"Forensic footprint". I quite liked that term, Jonathan.
One of the main issues regarding the illegal conversions was:
A barrel in U.K. law does not become a barrel until a chamber is cut into the barrel. So it’s legal to buy 9mm rifled barrel then simply buy the equally legal chamber reamer to cut the chamber.
Also a bullet is not a bullet in U.K. law until it’s assembled.
So the cases, heads, powder, primers, press, auto primer tools are all legal to buy.
A company called R.I.F.L.E
Regional Instaturation Firearms Little Eaton was raided for supplying deactivated weapons alongside the equipment to re activate them.
The owners were jailed.
John Ferguson shows up at the range in a SUIT like a BOSS. Looking sharp and dangerous, good sir
There is an excellent British film called The Final Option where both the MAC 10 and early MP5s are featured heavily.
That’s known as “Who Dares Wins” in the UK.
I would love to get a full 360 reference of these weapons. Would like to (and model them myself) see them in video games.
Jonathan and the BIG MAC ATTACK!
My mates got one of these.. insane pieces of kit.
...outstanding video, thanks for sharing.
There are transferable Mac's with uzi mag wells here in the states.
The leader carbine is so cool. I remember them in the first matrix film
late 90's early 2000's these flooded london
The reloaded exhibition is great! Also Leeds is great. Give it a visit
Saw a picture drawing of the mac10 being used with that strap clenched in the fingers of the shooting hand. It was in some sort of 1980s sof style magazine/ or maybe one of those “SAS survival handbooks”.
Johnathan really does look like a British villain with all those mac10s Infront of him
Wow! Jonathan gets to fire one of the guns from the collection! And a Mac - 10 no less! Sweet
Kind of surprised that none of the UK M10 companies decided to just give the ban affected models a rechamber for .22lr and a slightly longer barrel, as with the solid stock and a longer barrel, that would've allowed them to keep selling in the UK post-ban without needing to deactivate, and also not put them out of the money and work already used to make the unsold guns.
All in all though, interesting to see all these models.
Jonathan shooting a mac 10 in a suit is unbelievably proper of him
Wow, I had no idea that UK actually used these in military. Very cool.
It does seem incongruous that the British version of the MAC-10 is from the home of "Annoyed of Tunbridge Wells". I expect they wrote stiff letters to their MP & The Times.
No, they'd do that for shops that sold pellet guns or air rifles. To this day most people living there have no idea there was a factory making automatic weapons in one of the units on the industrial estate. It must have all been very low key.
"This is outrageous! I shall write to my MP." "You don't have an MP, Rick, you're an anarchist." "Then I shall write to the lead singer of Echo and the Bunnymen. 'Dear... Mister... Echo.'"
It is said that the original Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells was a retired colonel, I think this crowd was either in charge or among the owners.
@@ZGryphon Ah, someone else who grew up with excellent taste in comedy shows!👍😁
a VERY STIFF LETTER. on CARDBOARD.
Living the dream, would love to have a job like Johnathan....
Wow Mac10 '' You've got a Great Job Jonathan 😌 Great Video 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Very interesting video. Btw any chance you'll put a Luty on display at the Royal Armories? I visited a couple years ago but didn't see any.
I assume that's on purpose so people don't go and take loads of photos and try and build one.
For basically the only civilian with full auto firearm access in the whole of the UK, he sure looks annoyed instead of excited when he gets to shoot these guns lol
Just concentrating so I don't cock anything up :) There are a fair number of Section 5 types out there other than me. Not many in the scheme of things but more than you might think.
@@jonathanferguson1211 I live in mainland europe, and Ive handled a bunch of mp40, pps43, ak47 etc full autos. given, europe is supposed to be anti gun, there sure are a lot of licensed, responsible civvie noisemakers out there.
Definitely not many with anything like regular access to full auto even with the licensing - I know a few who've got some nice toys i.e. one of my dad's friends owns farms in the south and an estate in Scotland and has managed to wrangle all kinds of stuff on their license, but nothing fully automatic.
@@jonathanferguson1211 I assumed it was the inherent unpleasantness of that particular gun. At least, it looks like a nasty gun to me.
@@matthewkeith8605Mac 10s are like the fast food versions of submachine guns. It just looks good in pictures.
Nothing about them is quite right. It's like someone tried to make a gun all bad and then succeeded beyond all their hopes and dreams.
It's all sharp corners. It's all unergonomic. It's got bad sights, a bad trigger, bad safety, bad cocking setup, bad stock, bad I don't know what you would call it on a Mac but every other gun it's a cheek rest. On a Mac it's the damn thing in the way of you getting some kind of sight picture.
Worse it feels like trying to guess what it's going to do next. Russian roulette with 6 loaded chambers. Will it try to shoot your hand off? Will it try to shoot the ceiling? Will it try to shoot the floor next? Which wall is it now trying to aim at? But hey maybe it will hit the target eventually.
Which is all stuff you never want in a firearm. It's like they took everything good out and somehow just left the heavy and bad.
3:34 "It's kind of inherently inaccurate, even if you're not a museum curator trying to shoot it."
*Cuts to a clip of Johnathan shooting an M10 in full auto from the hip, and then a substandard grouping on a target.*
Well yes, pretty much any gun you shoot full auto from the hip is going to be "inherently inaccurate." But if you switch to semi-auto and use the sights, it will be much more accurate, at least comparable to other SMGs with similar barrel length/ergonomics.
Granted, the sights on an M10 aren't the greatest, but they're still perfectly useable. So it's not "inherently inaccurate" if you use it like other SMGs.
"What I'm looking for is someone who can contribute to what England has given to the world: culture, sophistication, genius. A little bit more than an hot dog, know what I mean?"
The late great Bob Hoskins, No Bob it's next Easter... Bob Hoskins in "The Wrong Good Friday"😂
I mean our engineers and scientists have delivered the world over already. Phones, refrigeration, atomic energy its not like hot dogs are our biggest achievement lmao 😂
Having once owned an actual Leader in semi automatic (sadly confiscated by John Howard in his great gun steal-back), I recognised that fixed stock immediately!
In germany guns like these are called lead sprinkler and its pretty accurate
In US Murica we have a similar phrase, "Bullet Hose".
Jonathan has an amazing shooting scowl
Yank here, I've seen a few Mac-10/11 with Uzi grips/mags. Ironically the only time I shot a legit full-auto RPB-10, it had the Uzi conversion done. Note that I say conversion, as I don't think any company made a M10 style gun with it, besides yours of-course lol
Another very interesting and informative video review 👍🏾
When you're on the phone with a client and the guys in the offices next door are blasting away with their MAC-10 😂
Learned a lot I never knew about the MAC-10. 🤠
I have a question, can you chamer 45 ACP with that gun? But the gun is engraved with 9mm parabellum.
So I'm a bit confused.
This host is awesome! Great info on a cool, weird version of the MAC 10.
That is a LOT of MAC-10s.
Jonathan Ferguson, I dub thee "MAC Daddy"
Bro helps me so much to develop🙏
Jonathan is a gangster at heart
Warms my heart to know that when I visit the Royal Armouries, Jonathan is downstairs somewhere firing machine guns into cardboard boxes. Lucky bugger.