A neat suggestion for the last two slots is the Tenyi counter trap, for all intents and purposes it's an omni-negate in this deck that if it does get destroyed somehow can float into a non-effect monster which can be the 3k tenyi or Blue-EYes Ultimate Dragon for a big beater
@@JustNutzProd Possibly, I'm experimenting with the morganites right now since I've found you can burn through disruptions quickly, so purple morganite can help dig for the floodgates and red can help push for game faster. Only downside is you HAVE to shifter before using them since they'll lock you out of it
Normal Monster are only ever the yellow-bordered cards, so Lanphornycus, Berserker and the like see not Normal Monsters, but classified as Non-Effect monsters. Normal Monsters are always non-effect monsters, and non-effect monsters aren't always Normal Monsters
@@RadiantAeon yeah I know the ruling, still wanna play the lan and berserker though, so we can clear the token to allow pacifis to summon and trigger again and keep feeding the traps to hand
sea stealth needs to be in the main (trap one) it protect your continuous cards and allows your token and high level water to be immune to battle plus is recovery option for field spell
I knew the phantasm spiral would get a serious buff with this engine. I just hope that the Hieratic deck can find some good use for this, or the Transcendosaurus engine benefiting from this as well.
@@WhyPhoenix it’s only for the rest of the turn after you activate the normal monster summoning effect on imperialode so after the first effect there’s no problem. Maybe that’s the mix up or edopro is glitchin
oh hey pacifis primoredial is the version i was testing the most. cool im glad its getting a real look at Edit: Isnt fenrir dead into pacifis, given that tokens cannot be banished face-down (see evenly rulings)? Edit 3: Extra-deck monsters like berserker of the tenyi are "Non-effect" monsters, not "Normal" monsters. All Normal monsters are also non-effect monsters, but the reverse is not inherent. (The distinction comes up a lot in tenyi, unsurprisingly)
@@weissxiii9881 he’s actually a little more annoying because he’s a beater bigger than 2k so he can attack one of our guys and trigger to banish one of our cards…all in theory though. Very little testing so far🤔
There's this channel called "Maé" this guy makes this type of experiments *almost before than anyone* Take a look, he's very creative *Sorry it's not free promotion* I just wanted to let you know🙇
@@JustNutzProd fish Sonar can search a monster that mentions “Umi”, or a water normal monster. Sea Stealth II can special summon a water normal monster (or a monster that mentions Umi) from your hand at the start of the battle phase.
@@JustNutzProd Yes. But I'm referring to Special Summoned Monsters - specifically Lan and Berserker mentioned. I think they are ruled as being Non-Effect Monsters.
Yeah thats right but the viceversa of that isnt true. So with pacifis you can keep summoning the token and search a spiral trap but wont be able to activate said spiral trap because no noneffect monsters are technically normal monsters. I wish it were the case too man for real.
@@blueaqua2122 Yeah me too. I'm talking about the classification of the LAN and Berserker too, and an example of what you can do and not do with Pacifis and the spiral traps based on that classification. Those two are noneffect mons, and all noneffect monsters are not normal monsters. But the viceversa is true.
A neat suggestion for the last two slots is the Tenyi counter trap, for all intents and purposes it's an omni-negate in this deck that if it does get destroyed somehow can float into a non-effect monster which can be the 3k tenyi or Blue-EYes Ultimate Dragon for a big beater
That’s a cool one, could be sideable too just for going first
@@JustNutzProd Possibly, I'm experimenting with the morganites right now since I've found you can burn through disruptions quickly, so purple morganite can help dig for the floodgates and red can help push for game faster. Only downside is you HAVE to shifter before using them since they'll lock you out of it
Normal Monster are only ever the yellow-bordered cards, so Lanphornycus, Berserker and the like see not Normal Monsters, but classified as Non-Effect monsters.
Normal Monsters are always non-effect monsters, and non-effect monsters aren't always Normal Monsters
@@RadiantAeon yeah I know the ruling, still wanna play the lan and berserker though, so we can clear the token to allow pacifis to summon and trigger again and keep feeding the traps to hand
I love Normal monster support!!
Super hype for this new archetype
Gemini's bruhhhhhhhhh
sea stealth needs to be in the main (trap one) it protect your continuous cards and allows your token and high level water to be immune to battle plus is recovery option for field spell
I knew the phantasm spiral would get a serious buff with this engine. I just hope that the Hieratic deck can find some good use for this, or the Transcendosaurus engine benefiting from this as well.
if we're tying it to normal monsters and gem dragons... wonder if Primoredial Hyozanryu is coming
I’m trying to figure something out with Primoredial Transcendasaurus. There’s sooo much overlap but holy crap the bosses don’t do squat
I'm confused cause on edopro I see special summoned monsters activate thier effects after primordial imperialode is activated so I don't know
@@WhyPhoenix it’s only for the rest of the turn after you activate the normal monster summoning effect on imperialode so after the first effect there’s no problem. Maybe that’s the mix up or edopro is glitchin
No replay show case?
oh hey pacifis primoredial is the version i was testing the most. cool im glad its getting a real look at
Edit: Isnt fenrir dead into pacifis, given that tokens cannot be banished face-down (see evenly rulings)?
Edit 3: Extra-deck monsters like berserker of the tenyi are "Non-effect" monsters, not "Normal" monsters. All Normal monsters are also non-effect monsters, but the reverse is not inherent. (The distinction comes up a lot in tenyi, unsurprisingly)
@@weissxiii9881 he’s actually a little more annoying because he’s a beater bigger than 2k so he can attack one of our guys and trigger to banish one of our cards…all in theory though. Very little testing so far🤔
i wanna see what this archetype can for magikey
Flashing fire can be pretty good
@@samurai8362 it’s an interesting tech for sure. Just gotta be careful cause using the summon eff will lock you out of using pacifis that turn
I wanna see the Dragon used 👀♥️
@@vexamisblackwing3544 just swap in rivalry over gozen/tcboo and then he’s in
There's this channel called "Maé" this guy makes this type of experiments *almost before than anyone*
Take a look, he's very creative
*Sorry it's not free promotion* I just wanted to let you know🙇
@@samuelcastillo5246 I will check it out, thanks!
that new max c is also water
@@thunderrex59 possible side deck card🤔
Phantasm has an alternate win condition but I think it was the worst one.
Don’t hate on my boy spiral serpent like that.
Thoughts on the two Morganite cards in this?
They lock you out of imperial simce he activates in hand
@@dragonstwilight6389 I know, but hes not playing imperial in this build, just the spells which is why i thought of them.
Are you forgetting the umi support that does support for normal monsters.
@@nickd6303 what cards specifically?
@@JustNutzProd fish sonar i would assume
@@JustNutzProd fish Sonar can search a monster that mentions “Umi”, or a water normal monster. Sea Stealth II can special summon a water normal monster (or a monster that mentions Umi) from your hand at the start of the battle phase.
@@enlongjones2394 nah primordial is just a much better version of those cards
Why the horror war imagery on the page? It's awful
Awesome deck profile though
Christ those ads😂
@@ed765super I have an ad blocker, but this site is ruthless🤕
Why not call the deck
"THE PRIMORDIAL PHANTASM"
That would be a sick album name
I think Special Summoned Monsters count as Non-Effect Monsters, not Normal Monsters.
@@blueaqua2122 all normal monsters count as non-effect monsters…
@@JustNutzProd Yes. But I'm referring to Special Summoned Monsters - specifically Lan and Berserker mentioned. I think they are ruled as being Non-Effect Monsters.
Yeah thats right but the viceversa of that isnt true. So with pacifis you can keep summoning the token and search a spiral trap but wont be able to activate said spiral trap because no noneffect monsters are technically normal monsters. I wish it were the case too man for real.
@@haroldhughes6602I don't think what I'm saying is coming across right. I'm not talking about any kind of play, just the classification of a card.
@@blueaqua2122 Yeah me too. I'm talking about the classification of the LAN and Berserker too, and an example of what you can do and not do with Pacifis and the spiral traps based on that classification. Those two are noneffect mons, and all noneffect monsters are not normal monsters. But the viceversa is true.
"I don't run that many floodgates" 1 floodgate is too many 😭
yeah, he should be running 10.
No amount of floodgate is too many! Gimme all of them!