If they EVER bring out the Armor Cards, each one is gonna have to have one very important line of text on them: “If this card is on the Field, you cannot summon monsters from your Extra Deck.” Otherwise, this is gonna become the most degen Link Spam archetype ever to get printed to cardboard.
Armor cards like this would probably make Egyptian God cards a valid strategy, with all the card advantage you could amass. They'd probably need to ban cards like Catapult Turtle as well tho.
@@Gamma7DroidSecuritynot unless the armor cards have "cannot use effects nor special summon any monsters this turn, except Armor monsters" as a uniting effect
Valon vs Joey just being a fist fight in an empty lot over a girl they both like is very relatable. I think Waking The Dragons is my favorite Yugioh arc of all time.
Joey has had some of the most physically demanding and strenuous duels in the franchise. He almost died against marik and in this duel he was pushed to the limit and after winning he went straight to duel Mai immediately afterwards and fainted after the duel barely started. Joey is a true underdog.
Actually in his last duel against Mai, Joey didn't faint when it barely started (that was just an abridged series-only joke). His duel against Mai lasted quite a while before he passed out.
@@justinbryan6249 To piggyback off of you in response to AK, in the sub, Joey actually was pronounced dead for a short period after his duel with Yami Marik. He literally wasn’t breathing.
Can we appreciate just how beautiful and clean Takahiro Kogami’s animation style was in the third part of this duel? The man never disappoints and criminal he didn’t stick around for season 5.
They could have brought this back for yugioh V instead of the horrible pendelumn summoning and it would have gone great with the whole duel trainer thing they had with cards being on the field and them running around.
@@TwoBitSpecialistsorry, but pendulums were a mistake. Link monsters were a mistake made to try and calm down pendulums. I stopped playing Yugioh after Link monsters were introduced.
16:55 Interesting how Valon, a duelist currently using the Seal of Orichalcos, is able to use a Legendary Dragon fusion card. Considering how Dark Magician Girl the Dragon Knight fizzled out the moment Yami activated the Seal of Orichalcos. I realize the loophole here is probably that the Rocket Hermos Cannon is a COPY of the original RHC, rather than the genuine article created by Hermos. Nonetheless, I think it would have been a fun twist if Valon's play here ended up fizzling out just like what happened to Yami.
Wouldn’t it be hilarious that the armor monsters be announced to get printed in animation chronicle 2023 sometime after this video? It’s as if Konami follows you in more ways than one.
I dreamed about them coming to the tcg for so long I'm putting my money on Alister's cards in Animation Chronicle this year just to not get sad if I'm wrong 😂
It's not really off, though. If you attack with brute force, you're expected to defend in that same style. Think of it like the old warriors who were carrying both a sword and a shield.
Considering we got Gate Guardian support after 20+ years, this gives me hope that Valon's armor cards might get printed some day in some shape or form. (Along with Dartz's deck) Although, obviously,with different effects that aren't quite so dated, but still pay homage to the general idea the anime was going for.
I think the way to do this would be similar to the Gear Cards, where you summon one, it tutors out others, and then you can use them to summon an actual boss monster. A Link-3 Chestpiece that had 3000ATK but couldn't declare attacks. It instead adds a buff to your attacking armor creatures. Each one has a unique effect, like an armor monster that is a shield, armor monster that stops quick effects from other non-armor monsters, stuff like that.
Its probably be a Union monster(s) or Contact Fusion monster where summoning all the Armor monster let you Summon the Full Armored fusion monster from extra deck
This duel really reminds me of Joey's early days, especially in the manga pre Duelist Kingdom. He was always ready to throw hands, and was very good at it; a lot of his best moments came from him taking on physical threats that Yugi/Atem couldn't handle, or using his strength and toughness to protect or avenge Yugi whenever he was wronged. It would've been really cool to see Joey take up the armor monsters as part of his main deck, since they fit his style and personality so well.
These videos are always an insta-click for me. Also, the best option for a constant brick would be Gearfried the Swordmaster since it can only be summoned by Release Restraint and we know it's in Joey's deck since he used it against Rex Raptor earlier this arc.
I had the same thought. Either Release Restraint or Gearfried the Swordmaster are perfect brick cards for the start of the duel. I tried to think if Joey had any ritual monsters but couldn't remember any. But the principle is the same - without *all* of the cards needed for the summon, the cards are dead draws.
It was a pretty great duel in my opinion. It was pretty emotional as they both thought they were “doing it for Mai”. Plus right afterwards Joey ends up losing to Mai and losing his soul (freeing her but then Mai ends up losing so yeah)… but hey silver lining Hermos eventually ends up in Yamis deck right?
I mean it’s just sad imagine if Joey did actually manage a sweet play enough to beat Mai or stop her regardless it would probably upset fans there has to be renewals I was d a dumbasss big time for not paying attention to most of the duels I didn’t have much to do and unintentionally speed run yugioh instead of studying then watching 😂😂😂😂😂 it makes more sense when your not expecting an outcome for such great writing.
I just realized, every season had Atem using one of Joey's card at least once: 1)Duel Kingdom: Fused Red Eyes with Summoned Skull in the tag duel with Para and Dox 2)Battle City: Used Red Eyes twice, once in the duel against possessed Joey and then againt Seto 3)Seal of Orichalcus: Took Hermos' Claw after Joey lost to Mai 4)Virtual World: Fused Dark Magician with Joey's Flame swordsman
This season was ruled by the rule of cool "if looks cool, do it even if it doesn't make sense" and this duel was probably the best example of it considering some plays.
@@roncerjani9063 I thought most of the duels and plays that season were quite grounded with the Dragons' convenience aside (even the effects of their fusions are reasonable). But yeah the infinite attack loop was bullshit and not even because of how he got there because that made sense, but because of how it would make any mathematician cringe.
One of the best duels jounochi ever had in the classic Yu-Gi-Oh series. This duel was more than just a duel. This duel was about who deserves mai and who she cared for the most. In the end she chose Joey, and that's why valon said in Japanese " I'll leave Mai to you".
This is hands down once of my favourite duels of all time regardless of whether it's Canon or not. The whole thing with them armouring themselves with their monsters was unexpected and hype as hell. It was one of the only duels that had me on the edge of my seat.
@bruhmanofyear2 It's only "not canon" only if you want to Nitpick about technicalities, and that's honestly not really all that fun. If you want the question answered, then when it comes to which source material has canon priority, then it's manga over anime. It's the same reason why certain things exclusive to the Harry Potter movies are technically not canon since they didn't happen in the books.
@bruhmanofyear2 that's exactly what I meant when I said it's not fun to debate technicalities. TECHNICALLY the manga has canon priority, but honestly it's not something people should care too much about.
@bruhmanofyear2 he's referring to the manga when making the canon statement. People do this with every anime based on a manga. Canon to the anime really doesn't make since here
This is my favorite duel of the entire original Yu-Gi-Oh series. This duels is absurd, it's fun, it's ridiculous, but in all of the best ways, while also being very emotional, especially if you combine it with the duel that Joey does with Mai immediately after this.
Episode 169!!!! Man the amount effort TGS anime puts in his videos from trivia to lore to rule explaining not mentioning goin to the duel back to back to know every possible move and Evey card in hand it's just shows how much this man puts his heart into these kinds of videos
Same, the dragon fusions were clearly pure plot device, up to and including the one that defused and the one that failed. So as long as you sit back and enjoy each duel for what it was, it was a pretty fun watch. The same goes for season 3 really. The deckmaster system was also basically plot device city, letting the writers have free reign to do whatever they wanted during the filler arc.
For me this is definitely top ten of all time. Great passion and writing. One thing I love in the dub vs sub is when Joey summons Lord of the red the summoning is blue flame which in reality is many times hotter than orange plus I think it looks a lot cooler
To me, the armor cards are precursor to the Meklord Emperors Edit: Trap Hole of Spikes for the mystery brick card (all of Valon's monsters have 0 atk, so that trap's useless)
More like Timelords IMO: - 0 ATK - Negate damage - Can’t be destroyed in some cases - Inflict some type of damage while destroying/removing opponent monster(s).
This is straight up a TOP 10 Duel of the whole YGO franchise for me! The characters, the passion, the strategy, the unique fist fighting with armor! It's one of the awesomest duels ever!
I'd say the mystery card is probably roulette spider. It serves no purpose considering majoirty of the duel Valon has no monsters or monsters that could redirect an attack to something else also Joey faces a great risk using it Edit: correction a greater risk considering when he could use it he has little LP left because again Valon leaves his himself wide open most of the duel
@@chrisdonovan9872 My bet is Gilford the Lightning. I don't think he ever ended up with 3 monsters on the field or a way to discard a card from his hand. So it could 100% be dead in his hand all duel.
@@LucianDevine gilford 100% makes sense as it is dead in hand and he has no way to make it any time soon and if he tried valon basically wins before he can
@Shadowfan115 just looked up and nope still was a normal monster when he summoned it as a spirit against darts at the end also besides some it thier as a background card as a proper fusion it was never a fusion in dm at least
I think Valon might have actually used the effect of Psychic Armor Head, but just didn’t declare it. There was a point in the duel where, at the start of his turn, he just drew and played Black Hole Shield without looking at it.
its a shame (at least in the US) the video is removed from the channel so its easy to miss. i only saw it the first time a year or so ago. "Nah I just like being evil mate" is SO FUNNY Edit: The video is on youtube, LittleKuriboh hasn't added the 3rd party's upload to his playlist though. No need for a VPN 4Kids only gun for that man.
Sad thing is that all those punches Valon did ended up doing physical damage to Joey since monsters were made real during this arc. If Joey wasn't so exhausted and hurt, he could have possibly beaten Mai.
This is such a fitting duel for Joey, since Joey is so keen on throwing hands with anyone at anytime. My favorite example... Literally, Episode 1: Joey to Kaiba- "Ooo, im shaking! Why don't we settle this with fist's, instead of cards?!"
Funny because kaiba can actually do both Remember,he spent an entire season running away from strapped goons that wanted to kill him and though we only saw it once or twice,I'm pretty sure he actually throw hands at rare hunter and bullies that were breaking the rules,all over the city Now imagine that,playing a children card game in a back Allen,then some rich dude comes in,beat your oponent down to save you...and then be blasted with a "third rate dualista with a fourth rate deck"😂
You know…they kind of work like the Meklord Emperor pieces except being attached to the duelist. They are effectively one monster made up of 5 parts and can be customized to suit the situation either with upgraded parts or the parts from different Meklords.
The really cool thing about the Armor monsters is how well they synergize with the Seal of Orichalcos: the extra zones allowing Valon to equip more things, and the ATK boost helping to compensate for the Armor monsters' naturally low ATK
I'd like to recommend, even though it's a smaller duel, Syrus vs Hassleberry. Hassleberry could have ended it in a tie if he wanted, but also he played exactly how Syrus expected him to and thus into all his traps, so could he have avoided that altogether by playing differently? Plus I want that infinite loop acknowledged.
I’m surprised they didn’t say that Hermos creates Joey’s armor cards, instead of them just pretending that he’s always had them but just so happens to never have used them before or after this.
This is not only one of my favorite duels in Yu-Gi-Oh, but one of my favorite anime moments overall! It was THE ONE time I didn't get bored with the whole "fighting over the girl" thing and one of the few times I saw it being done correctly! They both genuinely cared for Mai and over the course of the duel learned to respect each other by understanding that, although each in their own way, they ultimately wanted the same thing...to protect her.
Honestly, if there is an official Yu-Gi-Oh vr game, I want there to be these armor cards that you can use to punch the fuck out of your opponent’s monsters.
1:05 well mate... That can be the whole Joey deck since our boy only fill his deck with bricks. The dude things he's Bob the contractors placing bricks all over the street
The reason why valon doesn't use the psychic helmet effect to draw armored monsters instead of drawing normally it's probably that he wanted the magic cards like full armored gravitation that can summon multiple monsters
They aren't technically Armor ability monsters. Aura Armor uses his Life Points so manifesting as equipped armor seems in theme. But Joey becoming Lord of the Red is random and probably just so animators could have him fist fight with Valon.
@@ScionStorm1 maybe he decided to update his deck a bit between seasons and he found the lord of red ritual and armor card randomly and not knowing what they can do thought it would be cool to use plus there is merit because battle city no gearfreird the master swordsman just the iron knight so it makes sense he enhances his own deck
Mistake in analysis at (10:18), I think. After Jinzo and Jet Gauntlet are destroyed, Joey can play monster reborn to re-summon Jinzo. I’m not sure about the exact rules in WTD, but Joey could: A: Attack Vallon again (Vallon could absorb the damage and lose the chest piece?) B: play monster Reborn facedown and activate it defensively on Valon’s turn. I definitely think Valon made a huge misplay, but I don’t know if it would have lost Joey the duel.
I think the best part about this duel is how Joey and Valon essentially “gg shake my had” gentlemen into activating a metaphorical “Last Turn” card. I genuinely think that’s what makes them so respectable. They agreed that something would be sick, so the said “fuck it. Our souls are on the line, but this would be pretty hype.” And then they did it.
Also, I would just like to say that Valon 100% CHEATED. Can’t attack on the first turn. However, this makes me think that it was another instance of “shake my hand,” since Joey realized “hey, that’s illegal.” *”but it is hype.”*
The concept of the armor monsters is really cool. I would love to see an entire series based around it tbh. Like the duel disk is a set of armor and the duelists fight using the power of their monsters. In terms of rules I imagine it'd be a nightmare, but the possibilities really makes me want to see what would happen.
And then the show turns him back into a joke losing his last duel in the series to lame ass Zigfried while still being called an amateur by Kaiba in the 2nd to last episode. Complete BS!!! 😡😡😡
@@michaelnally2841 Nowhere near good enough. The whole Zigfried arc was awful and Kaiba didn't need another storyline. It should have been a season about Joey and Mai. Getting the respect he deserves, defeating Kaiba, Joey and Mai resolving things and getting together. Instead we get this complete BULLSH*IT!!!
Props to you for actually doing this video. Valon's duels have always been those ones where I stopped paying attention to the actual duel happening and just watched it for the spectacle. When presented with the Armour cards and what their effects are, my brain just tunes out lol It's probably not that difficult to understand but I just cannot comprehend them So I just roll with it lol Valon's a good character but I was like "What is happening?" the entire time
I think there was a bit of mistranslating: it appears that the Armor Archetype is focused on the Battle Phase, thus their effects can only trigger on attacks. Since they share the effect of only one can attack per turn, not all the effects can activate. Boots, Guard, and Head can since they are not offense focused, but the Knuckles have to follow that clause.
The only explanation I can come up with for Valon's misplays is he wants to see Joey at his best. Like he wants this duel to end with both himself and Joey giving their all. If he had ended the duel when he had that misplay, while yes, it is for plot reasons, it could also be because Joey hasn't had much of a chance yet.
That was always my sentiment as well. He wasn't just dueling Joey.......He was testing him. He knew Mai had respect and feelings for him, and wanted to see why while also initially going into it to try to prove he was the better of the two. In the end, though, he didn't seem to begrudge Joey of his win! If anything, he seemed to start enjoying the duel, saw why Mai respected him and saw Joey as a worthy, if not equal opponent!
Armour monsters could be cool but not as their own sub type. Make them Pendulum monsters to reflect them being played in the S/T zone in the anime and being able to mass swarm the field. Finish by giving them some more viable effects beyond battle phase things and I think they could be really fun!
I think armor cards would, in effect, function both either as monsters or as infernoble knights as they do nowadays, being able to equip themselves to other armor cards to provide effects. In the most basic sense, they pretty much function like the meklord emeperor parts from the anime as well
Union Monsters similar to the XYZ. Most likely requiring contact fusion and having a similar spell/effect that the newer magnet warriors use to bring out their combined form.
I think that in order for the Armor monsters to work, they would need a field spell that allows the user to either treat Armor monsters as equip spells or to use the backrow as additional monster zones
@@bruhmanofyear2647 Yeah but valon also didn't know what Joey had in his hand, so if he used his get out of jail free card when he had another, more expendable option available to him, it may have backfired. He had a 50/50 and just ended up choosing wrong.
I’m gonna say that the mystery card in Joey’s starting hand is Knight of Dark Dragon. Would make sense because Joey wouldn’t be able to summon it during this duel.
The Armor Deck was so cool and my favorite anime cards, which surprised me to this day that they weren't brought into the real world through adaptation towards the modern duels. 😅
Looking back on these armor monsters.... they function as the foundation to what would later be the Mechlord Emperors and how they are a combination of 5 parts to form a full robot.
17:52 - "Valon moves into his battle phase and uses burning knuckle to attack directly" 20:38 - Hair transformation 12:52 - My planet needs me 8:15 - Saint Seyaaaa 14:30 - DED
I would love to get an armor deck. I’m surprised one hasn’t been made, or an anime protagonist has gotten one yet. It’s theme could be all about self reliance, and not have other monsters/people fight your battles. Feels kinda on brand with the show.
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the missing card is clearly the biggest brick in his entire deck, Insect Queen.
Exactly what i was thinking only thing he would of put in so he had some padding to discard without damaging something he did need
@@sharpw9761top tier deck building by Mr Wheeler
He should keep it as a trophy and out of his deck.
He actually swapped it out for the soggy piece of Exodia he managed to retrieve
That's not a brick, that's a whole ass house.
“Name me a Joey card that would be a brick through the entire duel.”
“Yes”
Literally his entire deck because he doesn’t believe in deck construction lol
Insect Queen
@@devilalastor3320 people complain about yugi winning through plot but Joeys deck is like it was made by a ten year old who just started
Probably Insect Queen or The Legendary Fisherman lol
Fortress whale is the winner
Imagine being a bystander watching this duel and just seeing these two go from playing duel monsters too straight up throwing hands
that is literally just yugioh in Florida
Sounds like yugioh in Florida
Seriosly
I would watch that
@@Kingj987facts
If they EVER bring out the Armor Cards, each one is gonna have to have one very important line of text on them: “If this card is on the Field, you cannot summon monsters from your Extra Deck.” Otherwise, this is gonna become the most degen Link Spam archetype ever to get printed to cardboard.
I'm more afraid that on locals, people would actually start punching the opponent. XD
Armor cards like this would probably make Egyptian God cards a valid strategy, with all the card advantage you could amass. They'd probably need to ban cards like Catapult Turtle as well tho.
@@Gamma7DroidSecuritynot unless the armor cards have "cannot use effects nor special summon any monsters this turn, except Armor monsters" as a uniting effect
"While playing this card any attempt to hit your opponent physically will result in losing the duel"
Valon vs Joey just being a fist fight in an empty lot over a girl they both like is very relatable. I think Waking The Dragons is my favorite Yugioh arc of all time.
(inner voice) "Everywhere I go, men are fighting over me in robot suits. Is it something I'm putting out there...?"
Yeah this is my favorite duel pretty sure, lol
Where is that Sigma dude when we need him?
do girls like when guys fight over them?
@@cainandabel7059 yes and no, they say no but really they do love it cause it’s an ego boost for them
Joey has had some of the most physically demanding and strenuous duels in the franchise. He almost died against marik and in this duel he was pushed to the limit and after winning he went straight to duel Mai immediately afterwards and fainted after the duel barely started. Joey is a true underdog.
Actually in his last duel against Mai, Joey didn't faint when it barely started (that was just an abridged series-only joke). His duel against Mai lasted quite a while before he passed out.
@@justinbryan6249 To piggyback off of you in response to AK, in the sub, Joey actually was pronounced dead for a short period after his duel with Yami Marik. He literally wasn’t breathing.
Also, his duel against Yugi in Battle City. He was fighting Marik’s brain control and almost drown.
@@delloffthewall yeah forgot about that. Brutal
That’s why the creator admitted when it comes to personality and mentality, Joey is stronger than Kaiba and Yugi
In the words of the Abridged series:
Valon - "Joey just became the most badass character in this show!"
Joey - ""GUNDAM RAGE!!!!!!"
"I AM SUDDENLY AMAZING AT THIS GAME FOR SOME REASON!"
And here I thought Valon's armor monster was a nod to sonic blast man.
Imagine getting the armor cards and they read that if Oricalcos is on field you can just punch your opponent in the face when you attack.
Lots of ambulances would be called around the tournament 😂
*Mike Tyson enters the ring.
Me: I ATTACK YOU DIRECTLY
I uhhh Summon Yugi and attack your life points directly
@@ML_GAMlNG haha you fool you absolute buffoon you activated MY TRAP CARD WHY YOU HITTING YOURSELF
Can we appreciate just how beautiful and clean Takahiro Kogami’s animation style was in the third part of this duel? The man never disappoints and criminal he didn’t stick around for season 5.
Season five needed him so badly.
FACTS
He did do the opening/ending for the memory world though!
@@tarikkash4282 And it's jarring going from them the actual animation of the season.
Favorite part is how Valon’s hair poofs back to normal after getting out of his armor
Valon's armor monsters were one big Saint Seiya reference, he even does one of the poses, and I love it. Wish it was an actual archetype.
True😂
They could have brought this back for yugioh V instead of the horrible pendelumn summoning and it would have gone great with the whole duel trainer thing they had with cards being on the field and them running around.
@@ProfessionalCommentorDon't diss Pendulums. Love my D/D/D cards.
You sir are a TRUE man of culture and a REAL anime fan for knowing about saint seiya!
@@TwoBitSpecialistsorry, but pendulums were a mistake. Link monsters were a mistake made to try and calm down pendulums. I stopped playing Yugioh after Link monsters were introduced.
I love the irony that the first monster Valon ever used to attack, “Big Bang Blow”, was ultimately the card that lead to his downfall in the end.
Joey has literal plot armor in this duel!
@@tarikkash4282what's your point? They did it to make it entertaining which they accomplished.
@@500938ful That is my point!
@@500938fulenterianing or not plot armor is plot armor.
"Hoist by his own petard" trope.
16:55 Interesting how Valon, a duelist currently using the Seal of Orichalcos, is able to use a Legendary Dragon fusion card. Considering how Dark Magician Girl the Dragon Knight fizzled out the moment Yami activated the Seal of Orichalcos.
I realize the loophole here is probably that the Rocket Hermos Cannon is a COPY of the original RHC, rather than the genuine article created by Hermos. Nonetheless, I think it would have been a fun twist if Valon's play here ended up fizzling out just like what happened to Yami.
I always felt the same.
Would’ve made a funny “happens to every one in six men” joke
Wouldn’t it be hilarious that the armor monsters be announced to get printed in animation chronicle 2023 sometime after this video? It’s as if Konami follows you in more ways than one.
I dreamed about them coming to the tcg for so long I'm putting my money on Alister's cards in Animation Chronicle this year just to not get sad if I'm wrong 😂
i feel like they have to wait until they can make duel-disks real for armor cards to really be even half as cool as they are in the show
Valon: Its all about attack.
Also Valon: *plays cards with guard and shield in them*
It's not really off, though. If you attack with brute force, you're expected to defend in that same style. Think of it like the old warriors who were carrying both a sword and a shield.
And Armor.
shield bashing son
The biggest brick in Joey's starting hand could possibly be Gearfried the Swordmaster.
fortress whale too
Roulette Spider Spell Card
Baby Dragon
Release Restraint could also work since he never drew base Gearfried
Insect Queen
Considering we got Gate Guardian support after 20+ years, this gives me hope that Valon's armor cards might get printed some day in some shape or form. (Along with Dartz's deck)
Although, obviously,with different effects that aren't quite so dated, but still pay homage to the general idea the anime was going for.
Same
Yeah I'd love to just punch my opponent
I think the way to do this would be similar to the Gear Cards, where you summon one, it tutors out others, and then you can use them to summon an actual boss monster. A Link-3 Chestpiece that had 3000ATK but couldn't declare attacks. It instead adds a buff to your attacking armor creatures. Each one has a unique effect, like an armor monster that is a shield, armor monster that stops quick effects from other non-armor monsters, stuff like that.
Its probably be a Union monster(s) or Contact Fusion monster where summoning all the Armor monster let you Summon the Full Armored fusion monster from extra deck
The armor monsters were such a cool mechanic, we need them back
We should have them in real life
Next season be called YuGiOh Armored
We kinda got them again in anime as Meklord emperors infinity
Go, go, Dueling Rangers 😂
"I activat my monsters effect and know I will beat your @ss!"
This duel really reminds me of Joey's early days, especially in the manga pre Duelist Kingdom. He was always ready to throw hands, and was very good at it; a lot of his best moments came from him taking on physical threats that Yugi/Atem couldn't handle, or using his strength and toughness to protect or avenge Yugi whenever he was wronged. It would've been really cool to see Joey take up the armor monsters as part of his main deck, since they fit his style and personality so well.
These videos are always an insta-click for me.
Also, the best option for a constant brick would be Gearfried the Swordmaster since it can only be summoned by Release Restraint and we know it's in Joey's deck since he used it against Rex Raptor earlier this arc.
Very true. And the SwordMaster's debut is underrated. Card just looks cool wielding a Red-Eyes sword.
I had the same thought. Either Release Restraint or Gearfried the Swordmaster are perfect brick cards for the start of the duel. I tried to think if Joey had any ritual monsters but couldn't remember any. But the principle is the same - without *all* of the cards needed for the summon, the cards are dead draws.
He has two
Speaking of that duel.. still waiting for that video as well.
@@Barracius ...Lord of the Red aside, he uses another one *the very next duel!!*
It was a pretty great duel in my opinion. It was pretty emotional as they both thought they were “doing it for Mai”. Plus right afterwards Joey ends up losing to Mai and losing his soul (freeing her but then Mai ends up losing so yeah)… but hey silver lining Hermos eventually ends up in Yamis deck right?
I mean it’s just sad imagine if Joey did actually manage a sweet play enough to beat Mai or stop her regardless it would probably upset fans there has to be renewals I was d a dumbasss big time for not paying attention to most of the duels I didn’t have much to do and unintentionally speed run yugioh instead of studying then watching 😂😂😂😂😂 it makes more sense when your not expecting an outcome for such great writing.
I just realized, every season had Atem using one of Joey's card at least once:
1)Duel Kingdom: Fused Red Eyes with Summoned Skull in the tag duel with Para and Dox
2)Battle City: Used Red Eyes twice, once in the duel against possessed Joey and then againt Seto
3)Seal of Orichalcus: Took Hermos' Claw after Joey lost to Mai
4)Virtual World: Fused Dark Magician with Joey's Flame swordsman
The best part of this duel was Joey and Valon actually getting to know one another. I just love it
It’s so cool
They realized they were more alike than they realized
This season was ruled by the rule of cool "if looks cool, do it even if it doesn't make sense" and this duel was probably the best example of it considering some plays.
Idk, Yugi defeating Dartz's Divine Serpent Geh the way he did is a pretty solid contender there.
Tends to happen with its showrunner.
@@roncerjani9063 I thought most of the duels and plays that season were quite grounded with the Dragons' convenience aside (even the effects of their fusions are reasonable). But yeah the infinite attack loop was bullshit and not even because of how he got there because that made sense, but because of how it would make any mathematician cringe.
One of the best duels jounochi ever had in the classic Yu-Gi-Oh series. This duel was more than just a duel. This duel was about who deserves mai and who she cared for the most. In the end she chose Joey, and that's why valon said in Japanese " I'll leave Mai to you".
And what made me mad was she didn't care either way who won because she was under the orichalcos Joey had to die before she came to her senses
I think it's telling of mai choosing jounochi when she calls out for him mid struggle and valon falters hearing this.
This was less of a duel and more of a fist fight. That's why I loved it!
I absolutely love how this entire duel was just an excuse for joey and valon to have a fist fight over Mai. It's so silly, I adore it.
This is hands down once of my favourite duels of all time regardless of whether it's Canon or not. The whole thing with them armouring themselves with their monsters was unexpected and hype as hell. It was one of the only duels that had me on the edge of my seat.
@bruhmanofyear2 It's only "not canon" only if you want to Nitpick about technicalities, and that's honestly not really all that fun. If you want the question answered, then when it comes to which source material has canon priority, then it's manga over anime. It's the same reason why certain things exclusive to the Harry Potter movies are technically not canon since they didn't happen in the books.
@@bruhmanofyear2647 bro relax. It's not like I dissed it or something.
@bruhmanofyear2 that's exactly what I meant when I said it's not fun to debate technicalities. TECHNICALLY the manga has canon priority, but honestly it's not something people should care too much about.
@bruhmanofyear2 he's referring to the manga when making the canon statement. People do this with every anime based on a manga. Canon to the anime really doesn't make since here
@david osakwe agreed
This is my favorite duel of the entire original Yu-Gi-Oh series. This duels is absurd, it's fun, it's ridiculous, but in all of the best ways, while also being very emotional, especially if you combine it with the duel that Joey does with Mai immediately after this.
Episode 169!!!!
Man the amount effort TGS anime puts in his videos from trivia to lore to rule explaining not mentioning goin to the duel back to back to know every possible move and Evey card in hand it's just shows how much this man puts his heart into these kinds of videos
This duel was one of the hypest and one of the most rewatchable. Man I love waking the dragon
Same here
Same, the dragon fusions were clearly pure plot device, up to and including the one that defused and the one that failed. So as long as you sit back and enjoy each duel for what it was, it was a pretty fun watch. The same goes for season 3 really. The deckmaster system was also basically plot device city, letting the writers have free reign to do whatever they wanted during the filler arc.
Just rewatched this duel last night! This is, imo, one of Joey’s best duels, if not his best duel, in all of DMs.
Where can I watch it?
@@leonnegovetic8370 tubi
For me this is definitely top ten of all time. Great passion and writing. One thing I love in the dub vs sub is when Joey summons Lord of the red the summoning is blue flame which in reality is many times hotter than orange plus I think it looks a lot cooler
To me, the armor cards are precursor to the Meklord Emperors
Edit: Trap Hole of Spikes for the mystery brick card (all of Valon's monsters have 0 atk, so that trap's useless)
More like Timelords IMO:
- 0 ATK
- Negate damage
- Can’t be destroyed in some cases
- Inflict some type of damage while destroying/removing opponent monster(s).
Or both
This is straight up a TOP 10 Duel of the whole YGO franchise for me! The characters, the passion, the strategy, the unique fist fighting with armor! It's one of the awesomest duels ever!
I'd say the mystery card is probably roulette spider. It serves no purpose considering majoirty of the duel Valon has no monsters or monsters that could redirect an attack to something else also Joey faces a great risk using it
Edit: correction a greater risk considering when he could use it he has little LP left because again Valon leaves his himself wide open most of the duel
I like to thinks it's flame swordsman his ace not the best for level 5
@@chrisdonovan9872 My bet is Gilford the Lightning. I don't think he ever ended up with 3 monsters on the field or a way to discard a card from his hand. So it could 100% be dead in his hand all duel.
@@chrisdonovan9872 the issue is i think they changed him to a fusion monster in this season
@@LucianDevine gilford 100% makes sense as it is dead in hand and he has no way to make it any time soon and if he tried valon basically wins before he can
@Shadowfan115 just looked up and nope still was a normal monster when he summoned it as a spirit against darts at the end also besides some it thier as a background card as a proper fusion it was never a fusion in dm at least
I think Valon might have actually used the effect of Psychic Armor Head, but just didn’t declare it. There was a point in the duel where, at the start of his turn, he just drew and played Black Hole Shield without looking at it.
The abridged version of this duel was hilarious lol 😂
Gundam Rage!!!😂
@@caelalbridge3347 Lol
its a shame (at least in the US) the video is removed from the channel so its easy to miss. i only saw it the first time a year or so ago. "Nah I just like being evil mate" is SO FUNNY
Edit: The video is on youtube, LittleKuriboh hasn't added the 3rd party's upload to his playlist though. No need for a VPN 4Kids only gun for that man.
No harpies were harmed in the making of this duel
@@XXMatt0040XX Yeah that part was funny
Perfect thing to listen to while heading to work. Love this series!
Sad thing is that all those punches Valon did ended up doing physical damage to Joey since monsters were made real during this arc. If Joey wasn't so exhausted and hurt, he could have possibly beaten Mai.
This is such a fitting duel for Joey, since Joey is so keen on throwing hands with anyone at anytime.
My favorite example... Literally, Episode 1: Joey to Kaiba- "Ooo, im shaking! Why don't we settle this with fist's, instead of cards?!"
I guess Pegasus took that as a personal challenge to say "Why not both?"
Joey and Tristan are the fighters. And he took swings at Bandit Keith for locking the gang in that cave.
Funny because kaiba can actually do both
Remember,he spent an entire season running away from strapped goons that wanted to kill him and though we only saw it once or twice,I'm pretty sure he actually throw hands at rare hunter and bullies that were breaking the rules,all over the city
Now imagine that,playing a children card game in a back Allen,then some rich dude comes in,beat your oponent down to save you...and then be blasted with a "third rate dualista with a fourth rate deck"😂
By far my favorite duel of the original series. It is just so ludicrous while being played completely straight. Beautiful
You know…they kind of work like the Meklord Emperor pieces except being attached to the duelist. They are effectively one monster made up of 5 parts and can be customized to suit the situation either with upgraded parts or the parts from different Meklords.
Oh man, I ever when the Meklords were he hot shit of sat the time. And I was so desperate to get all three Meklords.
@@misterOrca4 My first yugioh card pack had meklord emperor granel
Yes! Thank you so much, TGS!
This duel was so epic in this arc. It was my 3rd favorite Joey duels in DM
The really cool thing about the Armor monsters is how well they synergize with the Seal of Orichalcos: the extra zones allowing Valon to equip more things, and the ATK boost helping to compensate for the Armor monsters' naturally low ATK
The mysterious card that Joey has and never uses is the Trap Card Gamble.
One of the coolest fights of the arc, and the fact that it turned into a legitimate fist fight was even better.
One of my most favourite duels in the entire series.
20:38 This makes me think, If the cards are holograms how did this happen to valon's hair
With this duel and then earlier Malik's shenanigans, Joey's gotta have the body trauma of several lifetimes
I'd like to recommend, even though it's a smaller duel, Syrus vs Hassleberry. Hassleberry could have ended it in a tie if he wanted, but also he played exactly how Syrus expected him to and thus into all his traps, so could he have avoided that altogether by playing differently? Plus I want that infinite loop acknowledged.
Raphael: Valon, we need a plan of attack!
Valon: I have a plan, attack!
Finally you cover this duel, one of my favorite duels
I’m surprised they didn’t say that Hermos creates Joey’s armor cards, instead of them just pretending that he’s always had them but just so happens to never have used them before or after this.
This is not only one of my favorite duels in Yu-Gi-Oh, but one of my favorite anime moments overall! It was THE ONE time I didn't get bored with the whole "fighting over the girl" thing and one of the few times I saw it being done correctly! They both genuinely cared for Mai and over the course of the duel learned to respect each other by understanding that, although each in their own way, they ultimately wanted the same thing...to protect her.
Honestly, if there is an official Yu-Gi-Oh vr game, I want there to be these armor cards that you can use to punch the fuck out of your opponent’s monsters.
Or a monster that you dislike
Its so fun when the duelists create an entirely new card, then write the text/ special ability of the card in the spur of the moment. 😆
1:05 well mate... That can be the whole Joey deck since our boy only fill his deck with bricks. The dude things he's Bob the contractors placing bricks all over the street
The reason why valon doesn't use the psychic helmet effect to draw armored monsters instead of drawing normally it's probably that he wanted the magic cards like full armored gravitation that can summon multiple monsters
This duel was really cool but I always found it weird. Joey just happened to have armor monsters in his deck that we never saw before.
They aren't technically Armor ability monsters. Aura Armor uses his Life Points so manifesting as equipped armor seems in theme. But Joey becoming Lord of the Red is random and probably just so animators could have him fist fight with Valon.
@@ScionStorm1 maybe he decided to update his deck a bit between seasons and he found the lord of red ritual and armor card randomly and not knowing what they can do thought it would be cool to use plus there is merit because battle city no gearfreird the master swordsman just the iron knight so it makes sense he enhances his own deck
As I suspected. Joey only wins because of luck and plot armor.
A third rate duelist with a 4th rate deck.
15:00 Didn't think they'd reference Missing the Activation Timing in the anime but here we are
The day duel monsters became a shounen anime kkkkk
Yeah man, I know, I'm joking, you don't need to overthink that
I love the idea that someone brings an armour deck to a tournament and brings a suit of armour and for each card equips a piece
10:42 What if joey activated Monster Reborn during Main Phase 2?
14:49
Luckily for Valon, when Valon's armor is destroyed, Valon takes no damage as he used Active Guard's effect
This duel was always one the most feverish and that’s saying something in this show
Mistake in analysis at (10:18), I think.
After Jinzo and Jet Gauntlet are destroyed, Joey can play monster reborn to re-summon Jinzo.
I’m not sure about the exact rules in WTD, but Joey could:
A: Attack Vallon again (Vallon could absorb the damage and lose the chest piece?)
B: play monster Reborn facedown and activate it defensively on Valon’s turn.
I definitely think Valon made a huge misplay, but I don’t know if it would have lost Joey the duel.
A(Valon could also redirect the attack to a different armour piece, like the shield, and cop some damage)
I would say the closest thing we got to the armor monsters was the meklord monsters in the anime as all five combined into one monster
Joey turning into Zato/Eddie from Guilty Gear just might be the best thing he ever did.
Idk why but whenever a card is never revealed, I just assume the duelist has a singular fake piece of exodia in their deck
Fun fact : the suits is actually homage from one of the games that Joey play during Death-T arc in Season 0 anime.
I just watched this episode not too long ago, and I'll admit, this is one for my absolute favorite duels, I'm so glad you reviewed it!
I think the best part about this duel is how Joey and Valon essentially “gg shake my had” gentlemen into activating a metaphorical “Last Turn” card.
I genuinely think that’s what makes them so respectable. They agreed that something would be sick, so the said “fuck it. Our souls are on the line, but this would be pretty hype.”
And then they did it.
Also, I would just like to say that Valon 100% CHEATED.
Can’t attack on the first turn.
However, this makes me think that it was another instance of “shake my hand,” since Joey realized “hey, that’s illegal.”
*”but it is hype.”*
The concept of the armor monsters is really cool. I would love to see an entire series based around it tbh. Like the duel disk is a set of armor and the duelists fight using the power of their monsters. In terms of rules I imagine it'd be a nightmare, but the possibilities really makes me want to see what would happen.
This was one of my favorite duels of all time. Thank you for covering it! :D
For someone whos philosophy is attack attack attack, Valon sure has a lot of protection and negation effects
I think out of all the main cast season 4 showcased how Joey evolved the most as a duelist.
And then the show turns him back into a joke losing his last duel in the series to lame ass Zigfried while still being called an amateur by Kaiba in the 2nd to last episode. Complete BS!!! 😡😡😡
And Joey never loses in the Orichalcos duel matches only except with Mai at the end due to his exhaustion.
@@equivalentexchangeisalie5726 kinda agree although in fairness he almost won and managed to make Zigfried ACTUALLY TRY.
@@michaelnally2841 Nowhere near good enough. The whole Zigfried arc was awful and Kaiba didn't need another storyline. It should have been a season about Joey and Mai. Getting the respect he deserves, defeating Kaiba, Joey and Mai resolving things and getting together. Instead we get this complete BULLSH*IT!!!
@@equivalentexchangeisalie5726 yeah the only duels I genuinely liked from there were Yugi vs Leon, Kaiba vs Zigfried, and Joey vs Solomon Muto.
Props to you for actually doing this video.
Valon's duels have always been those ones where I stopped paying attention to the actual duel happening and just watched it for the spectacle. When presented with the Armour cards and what their effects are, my brain just tunes out lol It's probably not that difficult to understand but I just cannot comprehend them
So I just roll with it lol Valon's a good character but I was like "What is happening?" the entire time
Valon: "Joey just become the most bad-ass character in Yu-Gi-Oh!" 😆
Easily one of my favorite duels from the OG series. Great video as always.
I think there was a bit of mistranslating: it appears that the Armor Archetype is focused on the Battle Phase, thus their effects can only trigger on attacks. Since they share the effect of only one can attack per turn, not all the effects can activate. Boots, Guard, and Head can since they are not offense focused, but the Knuckles have to follow that clause.
Shenanigans the legendary dragons won’t exist with the seal. So when capon took it it would of killed it’s self.
The only explanation I can come up with for Valon's misplays is he wants to see Joey at his best. Like he wants this duel to end with both himself and Joey giving their all. If he had ended the duel when he had that misplay, while yes, it is for plot reasons, it could also be because Joey hasn't had much of a chance yet.
That was always my sentiment as well. He wasn't just dueling Joey.......He was testing him. He knew Mai had respect and feelings for him, and wanted to see why while also initially going into it to try to prove he was the better of the two. In the end, though, he didn't seem to begrudge Joey of his win! If anything, he seemed to start enjoying the duel, saw why Mai respected him and saw Joey as a worthy, if not equal opponent!
Armour monsters could be cool but not as their own sub type. Make them Pendulum monsters to reflect them being played in the S/T zone in the anime and being able to mass swarm the field. Finish by giving them some more viable effects beyond battle phase things and I think they could be really fun!
Let's just say the mystery card in Joey's opening hand was "Paladin of Dark Dragon" and he never drew the Ritual Spell.
Or the other way round and say it was Dark Dragon Ritual and he never drew Paladin.
Joey having that armor card and Lord of the red lmao....... You never saw those cars again after this duel
I think armor cards would, in effect, function both either as monsters or as infernoble knights as they do nowadays, being able to equip themselves to other armor cards to provide effects.
In the most basic sense, they pretty much function like the meklord emeperor parts from the anime as well
or like union monsters
Union Monsters similar to the XYZ. Most likely requiring contact fusion and having a similar spell/effect that the newer magnet warriors use to bring out their combined form.
I think that in order for the Armor monsters to work, they would need a field spell that allows the user to either treat Armor monsters as equip spells or to use the backrow as additional monster zones
Can also have effects similar to the vision heros, but that would involve them having boosting effects for the armor monsters in the monster zones.
@@southernflight5078 That would be interesting
Now he better cover the Yusei vs the Meklords after this.That was one of my favorite duels in Yu-Gi-Oh! 5ds 🐲.
Considering how legendary this duel became it's a wonder they never came out with armour cards ...
So if Joey had used monster reborn on Psychic armor head, he likely would've won, and valon would've won if he'd attacked jinzo. Fair trade I guess
@@bruhmanofyear2647 Yeah but valon also didn't know what Joey had in his hand, so if he used his get out of jail free card when he had another, more expendable option available to him, it may have backfired. He had a 50/50 and just ended up choosing wrong.
I can't wait to bring my Armor Deck to a real Yu-Gi-Oh Tournament and legally punch my opponent in the face.
I’m gonna say that the mystery card in Joey’s starting hand is Knight of Dark Dragon. Would make sense because Joey wouldn’t be able to summon it during this duel.
Bro this was the most anime duel / episode in the entire story arc
The Armor Deck was so cool and my favorite anime cards, which surprised me to this day that they weren't brought into the real world through adaptation towards the modern duels. 😅
10:25
But if Valon had done this, Joey could have used Monster Reborn during main phase 2 and still been in the game =p
Looking back on these armor monsters.... they function as the foundation to what would later be the Mechlord Emperors and how they are a combination of 5 parts to form a full robot.
Throwing it out there again, Yuma vs Shark towards the end of Zexal (or all their duels). Some of my most rewatched duels, would love a breakdown
Ngl armour cards would just be my excuse to spark out some obnoxious players at locals.
6:15 Has Battle Warrior ever done damage or accomplished anything besides being a chump that sits in defence except in this one instance?
17:52 - "Valon moves into his battle phase and uses burning knuckle to attack directly"
20:38 - Hair transformation
12:52 - My planet needs me
8:15 - Saint Seyaaaa
14:30 - DED
I would love to get an armor deck. I’m surprised one hasn’t been made, or an anime protagonist has gotten one yet. It’s theme could be all about self reliance, and not have other monsters/people fight your battles. Feels kinda on brand with the show.