One thing I'd like to add about Solidus and his child soldiers. The First Liberian Civil War happened in 1989, and Solidus was born in 1974, 2 years after Solid and Liquid, so when all of the child soldier shit happened he was only 15. Not only that but it's highly likely it was all done by the patriots, so that means they made a teenager create a child soldier unit, holy fuck. It also kinda humanises him more, since it shows how much of his life was controlled and what travesties he was forced to.
That's a point driven home further in MGSV, where smol Liquid had his own platoon at a younger age, got roped into Diamond Dogs, and ultimately conned the bigger operation for its resources to later one-up them, once Outer Heaven fell apart. He even had his own groomed super soldier (Psycho Mantis) driven insane by mental torture, killed by their loose ends (Solid Snake) and was ultimately being sheparded by the organization he swore to destroy (Ocelot's connection to the Patriots). Birds of a feather flock together, but also have a habit of flying into the sun.
He ages faster. And also, they refer to him as a true clone. He wasn't actually born like solid and liquid. He was just straight up created. That's how I understand it.
The whole conversation with Raiden where he says: "I'll decide for myself what to believe in" and they clap back with: "But is that even your own idea?" "Or something Snake told you?" Is the absolute pinnacle of an ideological roast Also I like Rose and I think her writing was extremely on the nose in the beginning completely on purpose. Her actual character shown during the later half is actually really well realized
Exactly, a bunch of dummies decided to hat3 the shit out of her which, to be honest I started to become a little distraut at her in mgs4 when she did..what she did. But in Kojima fashion it was all for a reason not to be taken at face value. Which, unfortunately, a bunch of people who play metal gear do.
it isn't though cause one is preaching individuality and choosing for yourself were as the other wants to control literally everything, the whole thing is about the need for individuality and the danger of collectivism and even if a government does take everything over you have to use what individuality in your daily life to keep going snakes speech at the end to raiden describes it perfectly the only part he doesn't spell out is the danger with a big collectivist government but i feel like all of MGS spells that out its very clear they are frustrated with collectivism which makes sense considering how collectivist japan is, i feel this is a inspiration to the people of there country to be happy and chose for themselves and a warning to the rest of the world of the dangers of collectivism sorry for putting so much i love the series and its message and if i miss understood your point and put all this for nothing sorry lmao
that shit actually made me turn off my ps2 because by the time that I got to that point in the story it was like 2am. when he became a skull and said that I got really scared and thought it was some sort of copy protection thing and didn't play it again until the next morning when I confirmed with my dad, that was in fact supposed to happen.
The fact that AI Cambell is repeating lines from the first game is actually a subtle plot hint not lazy writing. It's literally a snake simulation and if you've ever read an ai article you know they copy.
@@engie3953 good deal. I'll search for a collection for PS1-3 or get the actual game for my PS1. Who knows, that's something I can look into on the side of life stuff keeping me busy.
Solidus wasn't going to nuke Manhattan itself, he was going to detonate it in the upper atmosphere, the resulting explosion causing a massive EMP that'll affect all of Manhattan. With it offline, it would be free from the Patriot's control. That's why they wanted Raiden to kill him. Solidus's plans succeeding would be bad news for them. He was a perfect clone of Big Boss and his plan was similar to his. A liberated Manhattan would essentially be Solidus's Outer Heaven.
Summary of mainline Metal Gear Solid games: Revolver Ocelot trolls everyone involved in execution of Boss's will, wins by manipulating everyone and doing absolutely nothing, to stay away from this mess. Yes, him being born on the beaches of Normandy is absolutely crucial to the plot. _Revolver Ocelot - The man who trolled the world_
Raiden, disregard what I just told you. The most important thing for you to do now is enjoy a mouth-watering Egg McMuffin Sandwich from the new All-Day Breakfast Menu at McDonald's. All of your favourite McDonald's breakfast items, now available all day at participating McDonald's restaurants. And Raiden, always remember; I'm loving it.
Aw shit, they got this one. I regret to inform you that The Patriots have Censor Nanomachines in you....shit, you probably didn't even understand what I just....I give up, you can't even understand when I say The Patriots....
Gonna be real, the fact this game manages to explore and cover one of the most important messages that anyone can ever really be given to learn, and the fact people who played this game [presumably to the end] literally disregarded this and called the game bad is abysmally absurd The fact this video has a few thousand views is criminal, I'm sure others have gone through the game before and cut it apart to analyze every line of dialog, but the way this is formatted makes this information alot easier to understand and absorb, so good job on that
"Metal Gear Solid 2" and "Legend of Zelda Wind Waker" are the two biggest examples of how stupid fanbases can be, and funnily enough both issues almost solely happened because of the trailers of said games.
the fanbase was in awe they were dissatisfied with not being snake. and raiden is only a little cooler by the end of the game but is pretty lame throughout
I just didn’t like Raiden like boy if you don’t take that eyeliner off lol timone sounding lion king mf but nah Quin cool tho I just wanted to play as snake I was 9 and didn’t even comprehend the story until I played it again on ps3 but f them 500 vr missions almost didn’t get Vol 1 but you only have to do 50 now so yeah I have 4 MGS2 platinums still don’t like Raiden
36:28 The "Godzilla vs King Kong" bit cuts a bit deeper than that. Godzilla is also mentioned in MGS3, and has a lot of parallels to Naked Snake: both of them were mutated from atomic testing to not only be sterile, but to go on the assault once its territory was threatened, and could only be stopped once a bigger threat threatens Godzilla. Meanwhile, King Kong was found on an indigenous island as a natural treasure contained within a wilderness to experience freedom, but was later caged when modern civilizations realized he was worth his weight in gold. He was later ensnared by raiders and was tormented, but endured it for Ann whom he had feelings for. He only escapes when the coast is clear, but in New York, there's only so many places to hide. And yes, there is a Son of Kong spinoff too. He was taken down by *biplanes,* Jacks if you will. In addition, the original "Godzilla vs. Kong" was a compromise after Toho couldn't get their intended monster. The previous title? "Godzilla vs. Frankenstein". This reference is so big it spilled over to the sequels.
“Newgrounds Era” Early Internet: MGS2 sucks. This story is too complicated, I wanna play as Snake. “YTP-2016Surrealism Era” Internet: haha, MGS2 is the best because “A DUD?!” “Post-Irony Era” Internet: Peak MGS, Bravo Kojima
The entirety of this game is "what did Hideo "games" "LA CREATIVIDAD" Kojima mean by this" and I love it. Like all pissing and shitting around aside, this genuinely might be my favorite game of all time and a game that shaped who I am today: an autistic king.
Near the end when Snake was talking to Raiden about how his experiences are his alone, reminded me about something i learned in my Philosophy of Mind class i took last year. In that no one has access to your mind, and what reality is is ultimately up to you, given you cannot know what someone else is thinking and feeling, and they cant in return. I first found it terrifying, but found comfort in knowing that my experience is my own, and given that, it made me appreciate reality and existence more. Thanks dumbsy for this epic video, and thank Hideo Kojima for creating peak fiction.
I still hold one of my favourite moments involving this game was showing my friend the later codec calls with the patriot AI Cambell and Rose when they started talking about the internet and the moden day. My man went from semi memeing and joking to looking like something just phased through a wall in front of him, most of the shit the AI spoke about can apply to the modern Internet and it's amazing
As a filthy zoomer, MGS2 unironically blew my mind away when I first played it when I was 19 on my PS3 and is still my favorite Metal Gear game next to 3. Peak Kojungus writing.
That AI Conversation has to be the most scariest thing I’ve ever heard and seen in a video game. It’s scary because of how much it has aged so well….this game came out in 2001….2001 dude!!
1 hour and 19 minutes for The first review... 2 hours and 19 minute's for this second review... Good lord i can't even imagine how long the 3rd review will take or if he will do all of them to Metal Gear Revengeance...
The most hilarious part about Rose is that after "Cambell" tells her to call him Raiden, she calls him that once, forgets about it, and immediately just calls him Jack for the rest of the game.
Hideo Kojima going back in time to cause the Red Scare so a bunch of writers could make political commentary so it would lead to him making peak fiction:
1:32:42 God I love how you put aspects of the game into your own video. This genuinely got me for a moment... For real though, I knew both about the mass-produced ray fight (and the cutscenes immediately surrounding it) and vaguely that the Colonel was an AI going into my first playthrough of this game. It was NOT enough to stop this segment from fucking me up bad. It shook me up (especially when you are stuck in the tunnel for a bit until Snake finds you)...
I come across YT videos covering video games that could maybe get a chuckle out of me every so often. Very seldom do I find something that literally makes me laugh out loud throughout the entire video. This is one of those. Love your editing man. This is one of my all time favorites!
Harry Gregson-Williams was not the only composer on MGS2, but also Norihiko Hibino. He composed the tracks that you showcased for how good the music is :). Essentially, most gameplay tracks are composed by Hibino, and most cutscene tracks are composed by Gregson-Williams.
"Actually, there is something I have been meaning to tell you but I just couldn't... I think you should know, though. On Saturday morning last week I saw a guy leaving Rosemary's room... How should I put it, it was like they were... "intimate." I'm sorry. Sorry to bring this up during the video, but..."
watching this video was terrifying because my computer is kinda old and actually does freeze and crash sometimes, i kept forgetting that it was part of the video
I always thought the implication with Rose was that she’s actually real for the majority of the game, but then GW cuts off her communications and now her AI image is just being used to taunt Raiden.
This video actually encouraged me to play the game. I stopped watching a minute in, went and started the series, fell in love with it, and now that I've finished it I can finally watch this video
i've never played an mg game but i gotta admit the absolute chadness of kojima being able to write an anti-fanfiction, that's like something i've never even heard of before until now
Both the MGS2 and 3 soundtracks are two of the best in all of gaming hands down. They’re both so iconic that they’re instantly recognizable. I’m blown away at how they can so perfectly match the feel of both of both games thematically while still being functionally extremely similar.
I came here looking for another MGS2 funny video, but left with an existential crisis. I now remember why I don't watch MGS2 commentaries often. This is gut-wrenching. I played this as a kid. I could barely speak Portuguese, let alone English. I had no idea what the story was, but the game was the single most impressive thing I had ever witnessed. It wasn't until years later, when I was starting to get into politics and all the anti-political discussions, second guessing all the definitions of liberty and free will, that I dove knee deep into MGS2. Until then I knew how good the game was. I knew how good the story was. I understood the parallels with MGS1 and modern society, but it wasn't nothing close to the real thing. Heck, I think I still don't fully grasp MGS2. One thing's for certain: this game has not only changed my life, but my perception of everything. After watching this video, I just had a 1h talk with my mom about it. Trying to de-videogame-izing it. One thing I got clear from the conversation: this game will never be fully dissected, because all it is doing is deconstructing human nature. Reality is no more than convenient truths, we pass one another, and choose to believe. Genes don't define us, but they're the predominant source of human information. Self doesn't exist. I'm a sum of it all. I'm a sum of me, you, and all the Raidens around me. We're mere pawns trying to demystify nature. We mapped the human gene. We split atoms in half. We created divine stories to justify our existence... After all, we're just fabricating truths strong enough to keep us going, in search of one (any) fact. I will forever be thrilled by this game. I will forever keep looking into commentaries of this game. And I will, more likely than not, comeback to this video in a short time (especially the Arsenal chapter), to give this another go, and try to link it to today's world. This video was a true work of a patriot.
When I first played this I had an absolute blast but Emma section really got to me. To not get too personal I’ll just say that I had a half sister who experienced something absolutely terrible thanks to my own biological father. So when I saw Emma’s last moments it really fucked with me and made me cry for several minutes. This game became really personal to me and quickly became one of my favorite games of all time
I love how Kojima with each game it is the Lore gets a lot more exciting like to get to know more about why they're doing this and who's behind this is so interesting this is why I love metal gear it's one of my favorite franchises
That false video ending at the 1hr 32min mark was genuinely terrifying even after playing the game twice because I've had almost all of those videos in my recommended feed in the past couple days
Just completed sons of liberty today. I agree, hands down the best game Ive ever played. Just when I thought nothing could top my previous favorite game, this one rolls along.
I like how Raiden in MGS2 goes from intentional self insert character to Cyborg man that can carry and throw giant metal with his bare fucking hands But I honestly just love this game I honestly might pick up the MGS collection V1 for this game and MGS3
I just finished mgs2 for the first time tonight and had this video in my watch later playlist for when I finished it. I’ve never been so traumatized and horrified by a piece of media as this. I truly realize that we are already in this dystopian future, living our lives but not truly controlling our lives. The only thing keeping me positive about humanity is that I have understood these ideals and have for years decided that I am not conforming to a specific party or taking a side in a political issue bc if I do, I’ll be fed the information that I want to hear and I refuse to be manipulated if I can help it. Sadly I realize that no matter what I do, for as long as I am on the Internet or a part of this technological age, I will always be manipulated in some way.
If I were to make a metal gear solid 2 spiritual successor, I'd have it to where you got some headset that helps you auto aim and you could take it off at any point. At some points you may find that the soldier you shot, maybe killed, was just an officer doing his duty, or even a normal citizen. The AI obviously controlling the headset if you found out, saying they are bettering humanity by removing the problematic factors of civilization. Further, if you refuse to go along with the AI's plan, they mark you as a enemy of the states. I dunno. Plot point I thought of on the spot.
This was the first PS2 game I ever played and you cannot understand how much my mind was blown when I found out you could break shit in the environment
The first video hard reeled me into MG as a series, and after spending hours looking into the entire series from videos and such, I got REALLY excited waiting for this video to come out. I absolutely love how Dumbsville handled and explained everything, and I'm hella excited to see more, good job dude!
Pretty sure Harry Gregson Williams just composed the main theme. Most of the other in game songs were composed by Norihiko Hibino. Great video though 👍
Williams did the cutscene tracks, while Hibino wrote the in game tracks and was the lead composer, he also remixed some of William's stuff to fit the cutscenes better.
Dude I love how everytime you make one of these videos you reference y'know the media you are reviewing itself, memes centered around it, memes ajancent to that, and, oh yeah, Modern games like Cod or even, Alone in the Dark (which I don’t mind, I just, I just think they are better horrorgames out their, like MGS2, or whatever, cusse it'san alright game, the enemies, gameplay and story, they just, pale in the face compsred to games like Alan Wake 2! But still), (including games you said that you were gonns play like Bioshock, but you somehow ended up playing them anyway), but idk, that's just something I kind of like about your content, taking random things that might not corilate to something, and somehow making that work, sorta like what I try to do but am not good at cause sometimes I talk about certain things for to long and my confidence about what I was talking about might wane for the stupidest of reasons, weather that being me getting rage bated, or being embarrassed at writing way to long comments in a short comments therad, but despite that, and despite the fact that half/all the things you review I either never see beforehand, or have but just didn’t have the time or patience to continue with it (like weather that'd be most of your bad/good movies that you reviewed, or bad/good games), despite that I still like your content because no matter how long or short the video is, I will (sometime) always like your wacky sense of editing and humor, so thsnks for making good content (at least in my opinion that is), I hope you continue to do so, you also deserve a million or so subscribers, and I also hope that you have a good day!
Back in 2022 I was first getting into Metal Gear Solid, around that time thought I went through a really rough breakup. I felt exactly like how Raiden felt when his world started to fall apart. I didn't know how to feel or what to do, for a few weeks of my life I felt aimless. That was until I finished Metal Gear Solid 2. Solid Snake told me exactly what I needed to hear in that moment. The emotional connection I have, the insane attention to detail that should be studied in game design classes for decades to come, the profound narrative and the metanarrative that makes the plot only work as a video game is why I think Metal Gear Solid 2 is the best game ever made.
Bro holy shit. You outdid yourself and your capabilities in this video. The editing was not only funny but crisp af. I love how ever scene shift has the equip sound
the only thing about the tutorial repeating in the big shell start is because you can select in which moment you want to start the game, either the tanker part or the big shell, both can be "the starting point"
The fact that Dumbsville worked his ass off working this video while fighting off false copyright content ID
W dumbsy
That is not part of the simulation!
This is exactly what I signed up for.
Two hours of Dumbsville gushing about Metal Gear Solid 2.
buss
Think when he gets to MGS3 he's gonna make it 3 hours long? If he decides to make it 3 hours long I expect him to put the full ladder climb
@@DefinitelyFroggyDioBrando And considering how long MGS4 is, 4 hours of MGS4 isn't a stretch
Buss
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UA-camr: claims Content ID
Dumbsville: NO, THAT IS NOT CONTENT ID
Stop impersonating him!
@@dudemp4 *GUNFIRE*
I can’t believe the Patriots copyright system tried to keep you from uploading for so long
La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo? What are you taking about?
You could have waited 14 days for this to be uploaded on April 30th…a very special day…I won’t say why tho…
what the hell are you doing here cuh
@@Adealerofblackberry seeing this man here is like seeing your drug dealer at walmart
@@sallyh1480 fr
I shall say it!
It was the Inaguration of the first President of the United States of America, George Washington on April 30th, 1789.
@@kalebsithnerd119 true fan right here ^
damn bro, you REALLY pushed for that 10 minute mark, huh
I really like long videos so this is perfect for me
@mrpickledeggs I like your Humor, Sir.
homestuck located
This is the only acceptable amount of time to properly discuss this game ,
I love long time and long things.
One thing I'd like to add about Solidus and his child soldiers. The First Liberian Civil War happened in 1989, and Solidus was born in 1974, 2 years after Solid and Liquid, so when all of the child soldier shit happened he was only 15. Not only that but it's highly likely it was all done by the patriots, so that means they made a teenager create a child soldier unit, holy fuck. It also kinda humanises him more, since it shows how much of his life was controlled and what travesties he was forced to.
That's a point driven home further in MGSV, where smol Liquid had his own platoon at a younger age, got roped into Diamond Dogs, and ultimately conned the bigger operation for its resources to later one-up them, once Outer Heaven fell apart. He even had his own groomed super soldier (Psycho Mantis) driven insane by mental torture, killed by their loose ends (Solid Snake) and was ultimately being sheparded by the organization he swore to destroy (Ocelot's connection to the Patriots).
Birds of a feather flock together, but also have a habit of flying into the sun.
But remember his rapid aging which caused him to age quickly
He ages faster. And also, they refer to him as a true clone. He wasn't actually born like solid and liquid. He was just straight up created. That's how I understand it.
@@neringalukoseviciute1787he was still mentally 15, even if he looked about say, 30
@@zaiden2becausejustzaidenisusedExactly, he was very likely fucked in the head because of that.
The whole conversation with Raiden where he says: "I'll decide for myself what to believe in"
and they clap back with: "But is that even your own idea?"
"Or something Snake told you?"
Is the absolute pinnacle of an ideological roast
Also I like Rose and I think her writing was extremely on the nose in the beginning completely on purpose. Her actual character shown during the later half is actually really well realized
Exactly, a bunch of dummies decided to hat3 the shit out of her which, to be honest I started to become a little distraut at her in mgs4 when she did..what she did.
But in Kojima fashion it was all for a reason not to be taken at face value. Which, unfortunately, a bunch of people who play metal gear do.
Kojima reportedly modeled Rose after his own wife.
it isn't though cause one is preaching individuality and choosing for yourself were as the other wants to control literally everything, the whole thing is about the need for individuality and the danger of collectivism and even if a government does take everything over you have to use what individuality in your daily life to keep going
snakes speech at the end to raiden describes it perfectly the only part he doesn't spell out is the danger with a big collectivist government but i feel like all of MGS spells that out its very clear they are frustrated with collectivism which makes sense considering how collectivist japan is, i feel this is a inspiration to the people of there country to be happy and chose for themselves and a warning to the rest of the world of the dangers of collectivism
sorry for putting so much i love the series and its message and if i miss understood your point and put all this for nothing sorry lmao
Dumbsville made a video about MGS2 with the length of the actual gameplay of MGS2
“RAIDEN! TURN THE GAME CONSOLE OFF NOW”
Words that shook me to my core
I remember I was friends with some brothers and they literally turned off the console and I just said no keep playing.
that shit actually made me turn off my ps2 because by the time that I got to that point in the story it was like 2am. when he became a skull and said that I got really scared and thought it was some sort of copy protection thing and didn't play it again until the next morning when I confirmed with my dad, that was in fact supposed to happen.
Bro i played this just a couple months after 9/11, and this whole ending had my gd hairs straight up on end for HOURS
Nah that AI Conversation is lowkey the most scariest moment in any video game because of how well it has aged.
Was like 3am an I thought I was going crazy. Do I turn it off? Keep going ? 😂
Underneath my METAL GEAR I have a BIG BOSS that is a SOLID SNAKE right now, and it is great for RAIDEN.
NO! That is NOT Solid Snake!
I bet it's RISING for more than just REVENGEANCE
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This makes my Naked Snake Solid :)
I just released the LIQUID!
The fact that AI Cambell is repeating lines from the first game is actually a subtle plot hint not lazy writing. It's literally a snake simulation and if you've ever read an ai article you know they copy.
Funny how Kojima called AI of today being stupid as shit all the way back in 2001.
@@crimsondynamo615 that is pretty cool. As well as pretty funny
Eh, ai now doesn’t necessarily copy much more than any non-ai anymore.
Kojima really deserves props for inventing the first nightmare type game.
Can you recommend other ones that are similar (I love profound media that haunt but also teach me)
Play who's Lila. You'll love it
Are u still 17?
@@max4furioussilent hill isnt the teaching kind of game but it is a nightmare
@@engie3953 good deal. I'll search for a collection for PS1-3 or get the actual game for my PS1. Who knows, that's something I can look into on the side of life stuff keeping me busy.
PEAK INCOMING
This about to be peak FICTION ONG
@emerald_fury3754 ok, but why does this matter? (Also spelled josuke wrong)
EDIT: he deleted comment:(
I saw this comment 2 hours 19 minutes and 19 seconds ago and wondered what it ment. I now understand
That’s what ur mummmmm saidsssss
1:16:30 the fact that classified blueprints of some military vehicle got leaked on the war thunder forums a few weeks ago AGAIN is hilarious
I met David Hayter at a anime convention in Portland. He asked me what my favorite game in the series was and I told him it was Mgs2
I can somehow imagine him doing that in the solid snake voice
"So kid, what's your favorite metal gear game huh?"
u shouldve told him
MGSV! then smile and tell him its a joke my fave mgs is mgs2 😅
I met Raidens in Minneapolis like 4 years ago tho ngga talmbout hakunamatata the whole time I was going to tell him to just turn it off
Solidus wasn't going to nuke Manhattan itself, he was going to detonate it in the upper atmosphere, the resulting explosion causing a massive EMP that'll affect all of Manhattan. With it offline, it would be free from the Patriot's control. That's why they wanted Raiden to kill him. Solidus's plans succeeding would be bad news for them.
He was a perfect clone of Big Boss and his plan was similar to his. A liberated Manhattan would essentially be Solidus's Outer Heaven.
Nuclear air burst in upper atmosphere is actually how to achieve full damage from the shockwave. Unless it’s a lower power nuke.
PEAK FICTION ALERT, PEAK FICTION ALERT. THIS IS NOT A DRILL PEOPLE, I REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A DRILL
Call Dumbsville Oppenheimer because he just dropped the PEAK FICTION NUKE
this nega sounds like a discord mod,I'm not watching allat 😂
You can actually hear about that being bisexual as soon as you meet blizzcon. You just have to call him on the codec enough times.
holy fucking shit it finally released
Summary of mainline Metal Gear Solid games:
Revolver Ocelot trolls everyone involved in execution of Boss's will, wins by manipulating everyone and doing absolutely nothing, to stay away from this mess.
Yes, him being born on the beaches of Normandy is absolutely crucial to the plot.
_Revolver Ocelot - The man who trolled the world_
Bro is trolling so hard you have to pay a fee to get past him.
@@colt1903 LIIIIQUIIIIDDDDD
@@Ratscallion_exe SNEEEEEEEK
He’s a legend he outplayed fucking AI while working for said AI he’s definitely him the Ohio Sigma
This game’s deceptive marketing with Raiden being hidden from the trailers is like TLOU 2 if it was good
Also, I gotta say, after thinking about it, I feel like this video has made me realize that Solidus is lowkey my favorite MGS antagonist
TLOU2 is just good imo
“She Metal on my Gear till I’m Solid”
So true
Type shit
This is it. This is the magnum opus of the Dumbsville Canon.
MGS2 is like a weirdly peak horror game in itself with some of that meta shit.
MGS1 too
Raiden, disregard what I just told you. The most important thing for you to do now is enjoy a mouth-watering Egg McMuffin Sandwich from the new All-Day Breakfast Menu at McDonald's. All of your favourite McDonald's breakfast items, now available all day at participating McDonald's restaurants.
And Raiden, always remember; I'm loving it.
The La Li Lu Le Lo was really quiet after this one dropped
Bro where are you they loud as fuck
Aw shit, they got this one. I regret to inform you that The Patriots have Censor Nanomachines in you....shit, you probably didn't even understand what I just....I give up, you can't even understand when I say The Patriots....
This is a genuinely beautiful video. It’s gotten me to relive what I had felt, gone through, while playing MGS2.
Seriously, thank you Dumbsville.
Fun fact! I believe if you call Otacon on the Codec enough time, Meiling will have a voiced cameo
Save specificity
Gonna be real, the fact this game manages to explore and cover one of the most important messages that anyone can ever really be given to learn, and the fact people who played this game [presumably to the end] literally disregarded this and called the game bad is abysmally absurd
The fact this video has a few thousand views is criminal, I'm sure others have gone through the game before and cut it apart to analyze every line of dialog, but the way this is formatted makes this information alot easier to understand and absorb, so good job on that
"Metal Gear Solid 2" and "Legend of Zelda Wind Waker" are the two biggest examples of how stupid fanbases can be, and funnily enough both issues almost solely happened because of the trailers of said games.
the fanbase was in awe they were dissatisfied with not being snake. and raiden is only a little cooler by the end of the game but is pretty lame throughout
I just didn’t like Raiden like boy if you don’t take that eyeliner off lol timone sounding lion king mf but nah Quin cool tho I just wanted to play as snake I was 9 and didn’t even comprehend the story until I played it again on ps3 but f them 500 vr missions almost didn’t get Vol 1 but you only have to do 50 now so yeah I have 4 MGS2 platinums still don’t like Raiden
36:28 The "Godzilla vs King Kong" bit cuts a bit deeper than that. Godzilla is also mentioned in MGS3, and has a lot of parallels to Naked Snake: both of them were mutated from atomic testing to not only be sterile, but to go on the assault once its territory was threatened, and could only be stopped once a bigger threat threatens Godzilla. Meanwhile, King Kong was found on an indigenous island as a natural treasure contained within a wilderness to experience freedom, but was later caged when modern civilizations realized he was worth his weight in gold. He was later ensnared by raiders and was tormented, but endured it for Ann whom he had feelings for. He only escapes when the coast is clear, but in New York, there's only so many places to hide. And yes, there is a Son of Kong spinoff too. He was taken down by *biplanes,* Jacks if you will.
In addition, the original "Godzilla vs. Kong" was a compromise after Toho couldn't get their intended monster. The previous title? "Godzilla vs. Frankenstein".
This reference is so big it spilled over to the sequels.
Ah yes, the video you fought for finally arrives
Me when I’m in a gaslighting competition and my opponent is rose:
3:11 mfs be saying "MGS1 introduced games as an artform" while slandering the GOAT ecco the dolphin
I almost forgot that was all the La Le Lu La Lo they wanted us to collect the rings back then
“Newgrounds Era” Early Internet: MGS2 sucks. This story is too complicated, I wanna play as Snake.
“YTP-2016Surrealism Era” Internet: haha, MGS2 is the best because “A DUD?!”
“Post-Irony Era” Internet: Peak MGS, Bravo Kojima
MGS2 is peak "you won't understand it, but your kids will love it"
Raiden and Colonel talking about AI usage is gonna play out 100% as meme'd.
To be honest, I absolutely loved it when I was a kid playing it for the first time. And the ending was creepy as hell, I sat through it all.
as the game says, echo chambers stall evolution.
hell, people now are saying that Metal Gear Rising is actually pretty damn good. despite people writing it off as an edgy game
Missed opertinity to release this video on April 30th smh
But not too late to realize the importance of the day
Maybe it was gonna if it wasnt for the copyright claim
What's so important about April 30th? Could someone be passive-aggressive about it while I'm on an important stealth mission
It’s all made from currently existing technology
The entirety of this game is "what did Hideo "games" "LA CREATIVIDAD" Kojima mean by this" and I love it. Like all pissing and shitting around aside, this genuinely might be my favorite game of all time and a game that shaped who I am today: an autistic king.
Near the end when Snake was talking to Raiden about how his experiences are his alone, reminded me about something i learned in my Philosophy of Mind class i took last year. In that no one has access to your mind, and what reality is is ultimately up to you, given you cannot know what someone else is thinking and feeling, and they cant in return. I first found it terrifying, but found comfort in knowing that my experience is my own, and given that, it made me appreciate reality and existence more. Thanks dumbsy for this epic video, and thank Hideo Kojima for creating peak fiction.
Dumbsville This is probably one of your best videos Of All time
Love your Videos
I still hold one of my favourite moments involving this game was showing my friend the later codec calls with the patriot AI Cambell and Rose when they started talking about the internet and the moden day.
My man went from semi memeing and joking to looking like something just phased through a wall in front of him, most of the shit the AI spoke about can apply to the modern Internet and it's amazing
As a filthy zoomer, MGS2 unironically blew my mind away when I first played it when I was 19 on my PS3 and is still my favorite Metal Gear game next to 3.
Peak Kojungus writing.
Bro playing this and MGS3 back to back within a month was just 😭😭😭
Peak bro 😭😭
Your ass is NOT a zoomer
I played it at 9 on ps2 and I never recovered mentally lmfao ngga had me wondering if I was real
That AI Conversation has to be the most scariest thing I’ve ever heard and seen in a video game.
It’s scary because of how much it has aged so well….this game came out in 2001….2001 dude!!
MGS' meta humor makes me wish Kojima would make a Deadpool game.
Would have been 2000x better than that one we got which was basically Conker's Bad Fur day but done worse and not hilarious
1 hour and 19 minutes for The first review...
2 hours and 19 minute's for this second review...
Good lord i can't even imagine how long the 3rd review will take or if he will do all of them to Metal Gear Revengeance...
The most hilarious part about Rose is that after "Cambell" tells her to call him Raiden, she calls him that once, forgets about it, and immediately just calls him Jack for the rest of the game.
You know what’d be cool if they remade it. If they advertised it as the game that showed what Raiden did before becoming a cyborg
So basically the original concept mgrr
You forgot that if you shoot the box, "pliskin" complains about it on the codec
18:18 I don’t think this is self plagiarism this is likely because these are soldiers getting the same debriefing off a script
Hideo Kojima going back in time to cause the Red Scare so a bunch of writers could make political commentary so it would lead to him making peak fiction:
can't believe you didn't talk about the post-credits scene, that plot twist is a whole rabbit hole of its own that only gets semi-explained in MGS3
The thumbnail is by far my favorite one so far. COOKED ON THAT ONE.
oh, and the video is good to :)
MY SNAKE IS SO SOLID RN🔥🔥🔥
I like that in every Metal Gear Solid, Ocelot is the only one that knows what is going on.
1:32:42 God I love how you put aspects of the game into your own video. This genuinely got me for a moment...
For real though, I knew both about the mass-produced ray fight (and the cutscenes immediately surrounding it) and vaguely that the Colonel was an AI going into my first playthrough of this game. It was NOT enough to stop this segment from fucking me up bad. It shook me up (especially when you are stuck in the tunnel for a bit until Snake finds you)...
PLEASE KEEP MAKING METAL GEAR VIDEOS 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️
I come across YT videos covering video games that could maybe get a chuckle out of me every so often. Very seldom do I find something that literally makes me laugh out loud throughout the entire video. This is one of those.
Love your editing man. This is one of my all time favorites!
Snake: Raiden you truly are John metal gear and I’m honored to call you a friend.
Harry Gregson-Williams was not the only composer on MGS2, but also Norihiko Hibino. He composed the tracks that you showcased for how good the music is :). Essentially, most gameplay tracks are composed by Hibino, and most cutscene tracks are composed by Gregson-Williams.
"Actually, there is something I have been meaning to tell you but I just couldn't... I think you should know, though. On Saturday morning last week I saw a guy leaving Rosemary's room... How should I put it, it was like they were... "intimate." I'm sorry. Sorry to bring this up during the video, but..."
watching this video was terrifying because my computer is kinda old and actually does freeze and crash sometimes, i kept forgetting that it was part of the video
There was not a single joke or meme included in the section about the final conversation with the AI. That's how you know it's serious.
I always thought the implication with Rose was that she’s actually real for the majority of the game, but then GW cuts off her communications and now her AI image is just being used to taunt Raiden.
My girlfriend is a government plant, wow Raiden really is Literally Me. Kojima knows more about the player than we care to admit
metal gear solid 2 is , in my opinion, the CLOSEST we have gotten to a metal gear solid horror game
No fiction is more peak than Gez: enter the geico
Dumbsville really kept us waiting with this banger huh.
This video actually encouraged me to play the game. I stopped watching a minute in, went and started the series, fell in love with it, and now that I've finished it I can finally watch this video
This was a fantastic video. Can't wait to see you talking about Snake Eater for 3 hours.
1:32:41 was a nice touch...i actually had to think for a second, "wait, im on my Phone, why is it showing a Desktop-sized end screen?"
i've never played an mg game but i gotta admit the absolute chadness of kojima being able to write an anti-fanfiction, that's like something i've never even heard of before until now
Both the MGS2 and 3 soundtracks are two of the best in all of gaming hands down. They’re both so iconic that they’re instantly recognizable. I’m blown away at how they can so perfectly match the feel of both of both games thematically while still being functionally extremely similar.
I came here looking for another MGS2 funny video, but left with an existential crisis.
I now remember why I don't watch MGS2 commentaries often. This is gut-wrenching. I played this as a kid. I could barely speak Portuguese, let alone English. I had no idea what the story was, but the game was the single most impressive thing I had ever witnessed.
It wasn't until years later, when I was starting to get into politics and all the anti-political discussions, second guessing all the definitions of liberty and free will, that I dove knee deep into MGS2. Until then I knew how good the game was. I knew how good the story was. I understood the parallels with MGS1 and modern society, but it wasn't nothing close to the real thing. Heck, I think I still don't fully grasp MGS2.
One thing's for certain: this game has not only changed my life, but my perception of everything. After watching this video, I just had a 1h talk with my mom about it. Trying to de-videogame-izing it. One thing I got clear from the conversation: this game will never be fully dissected, because all it is doing is deconstructing human nature. Reality is no more than convenient truths, we pass one another, and choose to believe. Genes don't define us, but they're the predominant source of human information. Self doesn't exist. I'm a sum of it all. I'm a sum of me, you, and all the Raidens around me. We're mere pawns trying to demystify nature. We mapped the human gene. We split atoms in half. We created divine stories to justify our existence... After all, we're just fabricating truths strong enough to keep us going, in search of one (any) fact.
I will forever be thrilled by this game. I will forever keep looking into commentaries of this game. And I will, more likely than not, comeback to this video in a short time (especially the Arsenal chapter), to give this another go, and try to link it to today's world.
This video was a true work of a patriot.
When I first played this I had an absolute blast but Emma section really got to me.
To not get too personal I’ll just say that I had a half sister who experienced something absolutely terrible thanks to my own biological father. So when I saw Emma’s last moments it really fucked with me and made me cry for several minutes.
This game became really personal to me and quickly became one of my favorite games of all time
I love how Kojima with each game it is the Lore gets a lot more exciting like to get to know more about why they're doing this and who's behind this is so interesting this is why I love metal gear it's one of my favorite franchises
That false video ending at the 1hr 32min mark was genuinely terrifying even after playing the game twice because I've had almost all of those videos in my recommended feed in the past couple days
THE FAKEOUT AT 1:32:42 ACTUALY CONFUSED ME FOR A SECOND UNTIL I SAW THAT IT LOOKS REALLY LOW QUALITY LMFAO
2:12:50 10/10 performance. Cynthia Harrell would be proud of you 🤣
Just completed sons of liberty today. I agree, hands down the best game Ive ever played. Just when I thought nothing could top my previous favorite game, this one rolls along.
I like how Raiden in MGS2 goes from intentional self insert character to Cyborg man that can carry and throw giant metal with his bare fucking hands
But I honestly just love this game I honestly might pick up the MGS collection V1 for this game and MGS3
I just finished mgs2 for the first time tonight and had this video in my watch later playlist for when I finished it. I’ve never been so traumatized and horrified by a piece of media as this. I truly realize that we are already in this dystopian future, living our lives but not truly controlling our lives. The only thing keeping me positive about humanity is that I have understood these ideals and have for years decided that I am not conforming to a specific party or taking a side in a political issue bc if I do, I’ll be fed the information that I want to hear and I refuse to be manipulated if I can help it. Sadly I realize that no matter what I do, for as long as I am on the Internet or a part of this technological age, I will always be manipulated in some way.
This took a lot of work and I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to do this. Thank you so much man. This was so good!
If I were to make a metal gear solid 2 spiritual successor, I'd have it to where you got some headset that helps you auto aim and you could take it off at any point. At some points you may find that the soldier you shot, maybe killed, was just an officer doing his duty, or even a normal citizen. The AI obviously controlling the headset if you found out, saying they are bettering humanity by removing the problematic factors of civilization. Further, if you refuse to go along with the AI's plan, they mark you as a enemy of the states.
I dunno. Plot point I thought of on the spot.
This was the first PS2 game I ever played and you cannot understand how much my mind was blown when I found out you could break shit in the environment
Snake snakes his way through a soild situation
The first video hard reeled me into MG as a series, and after spending hours looking into the entire series from videos and such, I got REALLY excited waiting for this video to come out. I absolutely love how Dumbsville handled and explained everything, and I'm hella excited to see more, good job dude!
Pretty sure Harry Gregson Williams just composed the main theme. Most of the other in game songs were composed by Norihiko Hibino. Great video though 👍
Williams did the cutscene tracks, while Hibino wrote the in game tracks and was the lead composer, he also remixed some of William's stuff to fit the cutscenes better.
@@dsa2505 thanks for the correction. Such a fantastic overall score.
I've been waiting for you to drop for what feels like ages. Glad to see the MGS2 video finally here 🎉🎉
Dude I love how everytime you make one of these videos you reference y'know the media you are reviewing itself, memes centered around it, memes ajancent to that, and, oh yeah, Modern games like Cod or even, Alone in the Dark (which I don’t mind, I just, I just think they are better horrorgames out their, like MGS2, or whatever, cusse it'san alright game, the enemies, gameplay and story, they just, pale in the face compsred to games like Alan Wake 2! But still), (including games you said that you were gonns play like Bioshock, but you somehow ended up playing them anyway), but idk, that's just something I kind of like about your content, taking random things that might not corilate to something, and somehow making that work, sorta like what I try to do but am not good at cause sometimes I talk about certain things for to long and my confidence about what I was talking about might wane for the stupidest of reasons, weather that being me getting rage bated, or being embarrassed at writing way to long comments in a short comments therad, but despite that, and despite the fact that half/all the things you review I either never see beforehand, or have but just didn’t have the time or patience to continue with it (like weather that'd be most of your bad/good movies that you reviewed, or bad/good games), despite that I still like your content because no matter how long or short the video is, I will (sometime) always like your wacky sense of editing and humor, so thsnks for making good content (at least in my opinion that is), I hope you continue to do so, you also deserve a million or so subscribers, and I also hope that you have a good day!
Back in 2022 I was first getting into Metal Gear Solid, around that time thought I went through a really rough breakup. I felt exactly like how Raiden felt when his world started to fall apart. I didn't know how to feel or what to do, for a few weeks of my life I felt aimless. That was until I finished Metal Gear Solid 2. Solid Snake told me exactly what I needed to hear in that moment. The emotional connection I have, the insane attention to detail that should be studied in game design classes for decades to come, the profound narrative and the metanarrative that makes the plot only work as a video game is why I think Metal Gear Solid 2 is the best game ever made.
another good video finally it came out hoping you will make a MGS3 video 💪💪
Bro holy shit. You outdid yourself and your capabilities in this video. The editing was not only funny but crisp af. I love how ever scene shift has the equip sound
I was gonna be upset if Dumbsville didn't add the McDonalds bit at the end.
That intro with rose and colonel ai was terrifying
This video’s fucking amazing, can’t wait for the MGS3 review
Thank you. Dumbsville.
Thank you for talking about stuff like this and passing it on.
I truly do, salute you.
A wonder that the colonel didn't say "age hasn't slowed you down one bit" to raiden
Probably cause Raiden is only 26 lmao
@@dumbsvillewhat was the music at the patreon credits of the MGS1 video
I want to know 😢
Jesus, almost 2 hours and editing is so masterful, especially on the Arsenal part
Lmao pythonselkon was not harmed in the beginning of this video 😂👍🏻
the only thing about the tutorial repeating in the big shell start is because you can select in which moment you want to start the game, either the tanker part or the big shell, both can be "the starting point"
Gona tell my kids this was the metal gear solid movie
2+ hours of Dumbsville is the perfect addition to my day