Why Price killed Shepherd & Graves betrayed him to congress MW3 Ending Explained (Modern Warfare 3)
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- Why Captain Price killed Shepherd & Why Graves betrayed Shepherd to congress - MW3 Ending Explained - Modern Warfare 3 Campaign Ending Explained
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I feel like the main reason he killed shepherd was he actually played a part in soap death when he was captured he and makarov could make a deal called the enemy of my enemy is my friend by stalling task force 141 to give him prep time for the bomb in the subway and inform him on there movement which could explain why he said makarov was Kia even through no body for proof.
I think he just said he was KIA so he could "take the win" and if Shepherd was helping Makarov this should've been a clear point in the campaign.
@@TheGamingRevo Graves said E-KIA when shooting down Makarovs helicopter. They were saying he was dead.
@@TheProphetoftheVoid typo
@@TheGamingRevothen again this campaign was kinda a clusterfuck so I wouldn’t be surprised if that was a plot point that they just fumbled really badly
I hated how the game doesnt let you shoot Makarov as he's running away.
I mean, you can, it doesnt matter. you'll just hit his armor
@@grimhunter4648
Didn't notice that. I unloaded on him and didn't notice any damage.
@Psycho_Raged Yeah if you shoot him, you get the armor hit marker you normally see in warzone/dmz
@@Psycho_Ragedwhat about Valeria on mw2 2022 we have to kill her guys
@@grimhunter4648
They must have added that after releasing it. I didn't get those.
Makarov being alive in the newest MWIII is also weird seeing is how Price ended up killing him by purposely falling through the glass roof with him at the end of the old original MWIII after he had tied the noose around Makarov’s neck and securing it so Makarov hung to death while Price was smoking his victory cigar in the final scene.
Also, it seems like Soap dies in every MW. It gets to the point where it reminds me of South Park. “Oh my god, they killed Soap. Those bastards!”
They’ve been dogging on soap ever since mw2
there has been 6 MW games and soap only died twice. Your comment makes zero sense.
@@Gonnie6969he means the 2 MW games MW3 and MWIII
@@hx20games77 he died in one of them. Plus why is he saying 'every' game when he's only referencing 2.
Not really weird, being that its a remake/remastered version of it. Also, Soap only dies in two. Not every lmao
Actually, Ghost, Gaz and even Farrah said it to Price you have end things before they get worse. Farrah had no fucks to give when she said she will kill her brother and she did. Gaz avenged his team after Piccadilly accidents. Ghost was and probably will kill Graves for sure.
Farah should be evil instead Hadir. I hate what they did with Hadir and how they try to make you like Farah. I hate her and she should be dead instead Soap. Disgusting brotherkiller and feminist and tomboy. I hate her.
Nah Graves will be fine
@@thomascoburn5481I don’t know why you’re right but I think graves is gonna be right he indeed a sneaky lil shadow
Graves miles clear
Makes no sense for Farrah not to care though. Throughout the campaign she is shown to be the only one who cares for Shephard. Having small talk with him, saying he wasn't all that bad. It's obvious he has been helping her fight much longer than people assume. He did some wrongs, he shouldn't have ordered for taskforce 142 to die but at the end of the day he helped them and he died for helping them.
I mean Soap dying the way he did in the new game shows what real combat is like. One second you see your bud, then the next thing you know he’s a body cooling to room temperature.
However, from the aspect of paying homage to the OG game, they didn’t hit all the points home.
Dude shut it, it wasn't realistic, it was bad writting, they needed a shocking end, Soap was able to stab Makarov while they were surrounded and none did nothing, then Ghost and Gaz were just there and tried nothing to save Soap, I'm damn sure they saw the whole scene...also, no consecuences for Price being shot...
I agree. I was just sharing my two cents on the matter was all. I know seeing one of your favorite childhood franchises being destroyed in front of your eyes is infuriating, but there’s nothing we can do as a community except standby and watch the flames slowly fade.
@WJT. It was entirely realistic. Even the reactions of 141 were realistic, as they appeared to go into shock. It was quick because death itself is quick. Everything moves a million miles an hour and then it's over.
@@MadDogEntertainment6481 Pretty realistic how Soap and Price were sorounded and even then Soap was able to get up, grab his knife and stab Makarov while his men did nothing about that...reallstic, just say you liked the game
@@WJT.Whys it an issue if he likes the game, let people have opinions
I think you missed the end of the AC-130 mission. Price wanted to confirm Makarov was dead but Shepherd didn't even so much as double check for a body. To him, he got "another medal on his chest" and went home. If he cared to check for a body, cared to make sure Makarov was gone, the London attack and Soap's death could have been prevented.
Even if they checked for a body they still wouldn’t have found Makarov and still gone to London and Soap still would’ve been killed.
Task force 141 had already had suspicions that Makarov already survived. They knew when the bombs were placed.
@@matthamlin7298His Death is Handled better and is more Tragic in Cod Mw3 Og Version
The real reason why price exicuted shepherd was when shepherd told 141 to stand down when price wanted confirmation of mackorovs death and price needed to know if mackorov is dead if he survived soap would die if they found his body dead soap would still be alive doing what shepherd said by standing down got soap killed witch forced price to exicute shepherd
One thing I don't understand is that Makarov recommended them to kill him so I wonder if they did that, would someone even stronger and more evil have taken Makarov's place in Konni Group? Makarov in the same mission also said, every man can be replaced, even me. Coincidence???
if they do Ivan Still There right ?? he equally Dangerous.
@@zenovia1004Ivan is nothing like Makarov
Zakhaev, but the son. Possibly Nolan as well, he was captured and tortured but didn't break. Makarov/Konni Group will jailbreak him for sure
@@Deathmare235Might not be, but could have been worse with a different ideology. The successor of anyone is always gonna be worse or different.
@@bitfrosteseigeheim5605Zakhaev and his son is dead. Nolan, possibly.
I think it'd be really interesting if Graves and Shadow Company were "acquired" by Laswell and Shadow becomes Laswell's and 141's private army.
I mean they could just do what Shepard did and just pay them if that's what you mean.
no chance, after what happened with ghost and soap and the tank... theyed kill graves, also valeria and her cartel are gonna be after graves now too.
I gotta admit, I admire that you don’t give up with this game like everyone else did.
I salute that
Absolutely killed me watching soap die before he even got a full chance to develop like he did in the OG games. Infinity ward scammed us.
Phillip graves wasn’t first to shoot it was Alejandro who attacked.
This is true, I don't think Graves wanted to fight them, but once they engaged he knew it was him or them so he authorized shadow to kill or capture because that's the same thing 141 would do
after detaining alejandro's men, stealing their base, and kicking them off from it
@@ZeroOne-mp1qe but the order was to kill em all which one was better he did the right thing he gave a choice to back off
I like how soap has his sidearm yet went for the knife
I mean he was shot like twice prior to attacking makarov makes sense he wasn’t thinking and just trying to survive
Honestly the only saving grace about Makarov killing Soap in the reboot was that it made Price more dark and colder, similar to his predecessor in the original MW series.
They need to make MW4 campaign longer.
I agree. Should be 60 hours minimum. I’m a single game player I have zero interest in online multiplayer
its gonna end the makarov series so itll easily be 7 hours i bet
I want a villain arc for Price, or at least an anti-hero antagonist since we've been seeing Price slowly lose it over the 3 games.
Yawn. The Price from the Og Mw Games Lost way More than This Price. Of Team 141 in The Og Cod Universe in Mw3 Time frame he is the only one still Alive
I wished that price never stopped soap from dropping the hammer😐😐😐😔😔😔😔
Yeah, me too o soap, 😞
So the reason that 141s word didn’t carry more weight in court is that technically they aren’t a us owned and operated unit, they’re a collaboration from multiple companies for a worldwide counter terrorism force. It was a us congress that was deciding what to do with their own people. Thus the benefit of the doubt will occur, especially against a top rank general
I think the only problem they really faced was the fact that Shepard and Graves covered the who incident up and lost rockets to the "emeny" So, really Graves and Sherpard might get a slap on the wrist.....well Shepard would.
soaps new death is realistic because in real war you cant always have a last moment with your comrades
He died in the Og of a Old Stab Wound inflicted by Shepard at the end of Mw2 in the Og Mw3 which is Realistic.
@hurricane7727 i thought he died bc of the explosion didnt he get the wound fixed
The only reason a seasoned officer like Laswell would do this with little regard for consequences is that the hit on Shepard was sanctioned.
Makarov is basically saying the same thing zabuza said but in different words
Zabuza: kill or be killed... In reality you have kill your enemies or be killed by your enemies -zabuza momochi from naruto series. Damn villains were right!!
But Shepherd didn’t do everything they said he was supposed to give himself up and admit to everything he didn’t he lied about trying to kill task force 141
They never asked to give himself up or admit role in trying to kill TF141, tbf
@@TheGamingRevo they said to tell them everything you don’t get away from that little detail
@@sentairider152 I think they were just on about "tell them everything" about his involvement with Farah/ULF, considering that is what is said right after.
Technically he didn't lie. We don't know exactly what Shepard's order's were to Graves. It didn't seem like Graves primary objective was to kill them so much as have them packing so he and his shadows could properly cover up their involvement with the missiles. That being said he responded with force when Alejandro attacked. Shepard could have just ordered Graves to use whatever methods he deemed fit to handle the situation. See how vague those orders could have been? They both technically didn't lie because they both have deniability through obscurity.
I have a feeling that in the future, Price is probably gonna go off the rails and get himself killed leaving only Ghost or Gaz. Ghost may end up going solo afterwards while Gaz picks up Price's old legacy.
The only reason why this campaign might be the suckiest is because they only had one year instead of two i fell that if they had two years the story telling would be on point and the campaign would be longer and more finished.
Actually, they already had a script for mono warfare three is just the developers told him to change the story
I’d argue vanguard was much worse
for the congress part graves never used lethal forces till t141 attacked his men
Soaps dying was so close to how ghost died in the original modern warfare just in a different location and a different main villain
And worst writting
I think captain Price killed Shepherd was because of his affiliation with Shadow company and the atrocities they committed and him holding back TF141 from stopping Makarov
I’m looking forward to see what Captain Price does in the future if they don’t screw up the campaign again I hope there’s spin off in the future, and I hope they make all the way up to a sixth game of modern warfare. I say this is because the potentials for new threats that rise.
There going to make a mw4...
They already screwed it up 😂 Capt price killed a top level officer of the US. Cause his boyfriend died doing his job 😂.
@@CertifiedForkLiftOperator69420 the game was lack Lus most of the campaigns were not exciting. They basically took ideas from Warzone. it was a very slow pace with no meaningful missions inside the campaign, people already said that there was issues and people Agree everywhere.
@@DemonHunter371 my fault, reread your OG post. Saw you say " again" my comprehension level Exe died.
i feel like mw3 ending setup for a ghosts game, just wth simon gaz and price
When you dropped The Soap, you'll pay The Price.
(MWIII Season 1 and 2 cinematic: The Private Meeting ft. Alex, Farah, Nikolai, Alejandro and Rodolfo with ULF, Shadow, 141 and Los Vaqueros about stopping Konni Group and Makarov to avenge Soap)
this is not price the original price killed all his enemies after toturing them
Shepherd needed to be killed to avoid him getting in the way, he's a "loose end" to TF141. Shepherd and Shadow Company would've constantly intervened TF141 so Price needed to get rid of Shepherd to stop his nonsense.
Now this definitely will not get rid of Shadow Company completely, but it's a blow to them so who knows what will happen to them.
Imagine if Graves and Shadow Company are who you play as in the next Call of duty. Hunting down the 141 team. Who now call themselves the Ghost. The Ghost are targeting Makarov and are fighting Shadow Company at the same time. Price I feel should die to further build Gaz and Ghost who can literally start the Ghost team.
I suuport your story but the gameplay and length has to improve
Knowing activison, they'll probably gloss over Price killing Shepard and making him the good guy again.
14:42
There are cameras but only inside the hallways, just like in bathrooms, private offices aren’t supposed to have cameras in them
Price used to be a well developed character, but in the new MW he just seems like a hypocrite, especially considering him interrogating butcher with his wife and son then proceed to conduct cladestine operation in southern america. I just dont feel he got any right to blame Sheperd as "not fighting for a cause".
It’s because they used an AI to write an emotionless story.
AI can write a better story this is in line with the trash they've been doing lol.
@@bokc_nonpopularsalt1011 i can have ai write a valentine's day story
@@bokc_nonpopularsalt1011 trueeee, the story is kinda confusing and always rough on the lines, and sometimes the gun clipping and rendering on some cutscenes are wild, rofl.
7:50 grief can affect your mind in different ways
Savagery vs Savagery and now Brutality vs Brutality
I can explain it for you... the writers had no clue what they were doing.
Graves, who got blown tf up in MW2, "wasn't in that tank". That's "somehow palpatine returned" levels or abysmal writing
I mean you never saw him get in the tank my guy
And with how we’re in the Dark Aether story, we get to see more gritty story telling
So Graves is the new "shepherd" (from orig mw2 campaign) and the "new" shepherd is just vulnerable asf and doesn't even have a bad ass moment vs tf 141 and dying an earned death......eehh
Price spoke to Gaz in the 1st game about your hands getting dirty when the gloves come off.
I really felt the loss price felt from soap dying because we used soap entirely in MW2 so players have developed a connection with the character.
Agreed with you there, I think it was the dumbest Idea that Acti ever had, they probably thought about killing Soap like back in the og MW series
Yeah....not really, not as close as the connection we had with Soap on the og, we controled him as a rookie, we saw him come back as a Captain years later, a pro, and then on his 3rd game appearing we saw him die, we even saw Price breaking down, screaming in panic trying to make the impossible and make him back to life...the new ones on the other hand... we just had him in 2 games, 2 mediocre games, he stood the same all the time we knew him, and he was so useless on this MW3.
Soap's death hits Price hard. Friendship bonds forged in the battlefield creates a brotherhood that civilians like us will never have.
I don’t wanna give up on II and III, I personally like them
This is giving me Dutch van der linde vibes
i believe Next Cod Mw game Price Not only going after the " Big fish " a.k.a makarov, he also gonna Tied up the Half Breed Dog ( the jokes is Grave is Half dead ) A.k.a Grave just like a dark joke when ghost tell that to Soap.
It would’ve been a great if Price was the one who died because it would mirror the original with Price being the sole survivor
Everyone would hate that
It’s simple general shepherd told price in the winter scene “he would regret keeping him alive” Remember when price told soap not to kill makrov we could see price will not make that mistake twice this time with shepard
That was more a promise/threat to prevent 141 from stabbing him in the back.
@@brandonhughes4571 I think price didn’t want to have to deal with shepherd so he just ended him one less problem in the furure
@@bjkfilms5817 maybe maybe not. All I'm saying is that shepherd said that to prevent 141 from being backstabbed (graves being a chad there)
TGR can you do a update of the mwrreboot timeline? Love the content!
Will do! Thank you
plus in the first MW price tells gaz "we get dirty and the world stays clean"
TGR, I’ve been thinking about how now zombies is coming together with the campaign. We see that in the period between mw and mw2 soaps working on that w Ravanov. But since he’s 141 at some point Price would’ve had to approve that as his superior officer. Maybe after Makarov is taken down, there’s could still be the zombie threat. That or since this is in 2023 after Makarov maybe it goes from him to Menendez and 141 would be working on intel from the Blackops characters, maybe even operating with them? Just a thought but id love to see a theory video on something like this
MWIII Zombies is confirmed to be an Alternate Timeline
i can see Price shooting shepherd for the sake of getting rid of him and turning attention back to shadow company for what happened in MW2 since more than likely the US will go after shadow company for killing shepherd. i think its a classic case of two birds one stone
Technically speaking Graves didn't like, he trickle truthed, there's a difference although some people who don't have the brains to think on their feet deny that in order to feel better about themselves
My only question is how is SOAP in the Zombies mode?
Zombies is a prequel to the campaign
zombies is set in between mw19 and mw2
Something funny and this is just me,looking at around 1:12 and hearing price convince soap to spare him,you can see the light shine off his face,kinda signifying what was to come,it’s a animated detail but it’s also really cool if someone maybe interpreted it that way
Edit:I had to rechanged the time
7:50 no man you are forgetting that shepherd was asking to the team to stand down in regards to confirming The EKIA on makarov hence the saying "never bury your enemies alive". Thats the bad thing that shepherd did and will keep doing again (following his own agenda and searching for his own gain).
This last game got me so disappointed like a lot of folks that played, I just wished it could have been much better !
Doesn't matter. Next game Shepard and Soap will be back. Just like Alex, Grave, and the 30,000 marines.
My theory on Price killing Shepherd goes back to what he told Shepherd in MW2 when he told Shepherd to call off his shadow or after his done with Graves he was going after Shepherd hints the reason he told Shepherd in MW3 I've been looking for you
Captain Price killed Shepard because Shepard was Makarov’s informant in the US Military.
13:52 from what we know they have been working together for at least 5 years which is a healthy amount of time to build a strong relationship
I still don't get why Soap felt the need to sucker punch Makarov in the back of the head rather than drilling a bullet through it.
As he should, don’t kill prices friends.
Hey even though the campaign is bad, we know we got the ol' Captain Price back!
Price will be like ghost
Kill first ask questions never (because you killed every one)
A cool thing they could have done is in the heli they could have made it so you can make a choice to either shoot makarov or follow captain prices orders. 1:08
That could literally have made the entireness of MW3 do not happen bro, too much effort for Activision to writte a complete new story
Thanks for this 😊
Man, Graves betrayal literally broke me.
Same, I like Graves and Shadow Company
Remember sledgehammer games was forced to change the game like 7 months before the release date
My theory of why Price killed Shepherd is not because of this story instead the mw4 story where Shepherd likely work with Makarov or something worse for his “greater good” which caused either Gaz or Ghost to get killed in the process and so Price and Kate had it enough and the gloves are all off soo all of it ended up in that post credits
???? The post credit scene takes place before MW4. They can’t kill him over something that hasn’t happened… because they don’t k ow it will happen
@@shorktheseal you remember no russian post credit? It could be
I have a big feeling that price will go after Makarov and get Ghost and gaz killed.
Maybe we are seeing the end of mw4 when Price kills Sheppard and the game will build up to that point and we'll see how he got to that point? Just a theory.
He won’t kill ghost he won’t kill the other guys. He will hunt Makarov down
It should of let you at least injure makarov as he was leaving like a small detail for the next game
There might be missing missions, that will be in MW4, but they happen during MW3, like Sheppard being captured, where we play as the Konni Group.
There is a thing called gulf war syndrome
The reason why I believe it the Washington sniper had it
Captain Price learns to KTF
Well you see it could also be due to the court case he didn’t do exactly what Price wanted him to do and now Graves is next.
Honestly if you place the running away sound from Scooby-doo with the laugh affect to Makarov in that scene it will feel as if it’s a cartoon.
Honestly price has always been ruthless...
Bro this campaign is like a superhero plot
Soap killing makarov would of been EVERYTHING !
What if makarovs whole plan was to cause price to snap. In turn causing him to be viewed as a traitor
most soldiers carry anti convulsants, that is why price never really had side effects
Meanwhile the russians having their faces melted... but hey Price is the MC, nothing can happen to him...
Why do always pronounce it "Burry" and you pronounce the zombie map Buried as "Burried" why?
it’s the accent
@@jonanddy I swear he does it on purpose, as I've heard that accent many times, but never heard them say Bury like that
We also says that in battlefield 3 to do some good you have to do some bad
I would trust Graves more than Shepherd.
This could be a stretch but perhaps Sheperd's death (while canon) hasn't happened yet. Cause MW2 ends with No Russian on the plane but didn't happen until MW3 released. Could just be a showing that Price is now becoming rogue.
Honestly Price should’ve been the one to died and not Soap. It was a repeated character death and too predictable. Would’ve been way better when Price was killed and Makarov taunt Soap by saying “You should’ve killed back in Verdansk. Now your beloved Captain Price is dead” and then escapes.
it would have been better if after all of the stopped attack he revails that he planned that TF 141 is succsesfull but then somehow frame them with an other attack and he succseds to set up the next game
My Theory above all is when Makarov said, never bury your enemies alive
Ktf?
price just wants revenge.
Dont think too deep about it.. doubt the writers thought about it that much 😂
I wonder whats going happen to shadow company is Graves going take fully control over them
Well there goes soap being the main character like he was in the OG
Price probably killed Shepherd because at the end of the mission trojan horse when Makarov was about to shoot, he said to " never bury your enemies alive" this might be why he killed Shepherd
who else thinks it would have been awesome when makarov kills soap instead of him getting away because of a train price chased him down through tunnels and makarov only gets away becasue konni stops price from killing him when he catches him