That was one of the heaviest ones for me. A Delta squad holding back the tide. Running out of ammo and swapping to their sidearms. Pretty sure at one point one of them gets a melee kill.
I cried as a kid the first time i played that, i wanted to save them so badly lol thankfully your character derek frost doesnt go on that mission and lives
3:53 was probably the most terrifying death. Imagine dying in space where nobody will ever find you. You'll quite literally be floating around forever.
The cinematic deaths are some of the best parts of these games. If it's one thing that remains high quality with CoD, it's definitely the character deaths.
Dixon was my first favorite character to die in any game or movie. he hit me hard. but I remember fondly Guzzo's development as the squads outcast to him rising to lead us throughout the rest of that horrifying battle. and Huxley? hell, the war changed the man. better or worse, I believe he became Guzzo's second, and the two, alongside Nickels, completely destroyed the Kraut war machine.
Out of all the Call Of Duty games I've played, Call Of Duty 3 will forever remain my favourite. The story is an absolute masterpiece. Whoever hasn't played it or hasn't heard of it, they're missing out.
Advanced warfare still looks incredible 10 years later. If I didn't know shit about call of duty and you told me it came out like, 2 years ago I'd believe it
How dare anyone forget Brooklyn in Big Red One. Dude was trying to clear a path through barbed wire and ate some artillery trying to tell the others to get away from the explosions.
And Vic from that game, plus Sgt. Hawkins since he had 2-3 near death experiences with the last having you watch him get driven away by medics; leaving you and a few others to lead the squad.
More than half of these remind me of that quote from Free State of Jones. “He died with honor.” “No, Will, he just died.” Not many of these deaths are heroic by any stretch of the imagination, they’re tragic.
One of the few “heroic” deaths in this video was turner from cod WWII that game has an underrated campaign and turner’s sacrifice was one of the very few that had any sort of heroism, turner truly died with honour
Mccullin, Callard, Isabelle, Dixon, Vasquez, Jackson, Griggs, Gaz, Allen, Houston Satellite Team, Ghost, Roach, Harkov, Griffin, Kamarov, Soap, Sandman, Grinch, Truck, Yuri, Sullivan, Roebuck (If you save Polonsky), Polonsky (if you save Roebuck), Chernov, Dimitri, Sergei, Reznov, Clarke, Swift, Bowman, Hudson, Mason (BO2: If you Kill him, or BOCW: If you pick the Bad Ending), Harper, Farid (If you let Harper Live, or if Haper is Dead, Farid will Sacrifice himself to save Chloe then dies as well), Chloe (If you let Defalco live, he will kill Chloe, or If Defalco is Dead Salazar will be the one who will Kill Chloe), Anderson (I don't know the reason if she dies or lives), Woods (BO2: if you let Menendez live, or BOCW: if you pick the Bad Ending), Baker and Kiera, Ajax, Elias, Will, Nox, Cormack, Kane, Taylor, Reyes, Ethan, Omar, Gator, Kashima, and the Rest of the Character's in Infinite Warfare, except 4 Survivors, some WW2 US Soldiers, Turner, Perez, Paul, Some of the 3 Marines in MW2019 First mission, Farah's Father, Bell (if you pick the Good Ending) Lazar (If you pick Park), Park (If you pick Lazar, or the Bad Ending), Sims (if you pick the Bad Ending), Tommy (The guy who got shot when he opened the Dunker Door), Polina's Father, Misha, Lewis Howard, Des, Novak, Richard Webb, some of the Shadow's who were ambushed by Konni, Hadir, One of Farah's Friend in MWIII, the Lady in the Plane in MWIII, Soap (Again, this time the Reboot Version).
This is what call of duty stories have always been about at heart. Men making the ultimate sacrifice and doing what has to be done, because nobody else will.
SAT1 got the most saddest and scariest death ever in COD MW Series, flying into the darkness of space, lonely, no food or water, forgotten by everyone except his family, where his body goes is unknown, we don't know if he's alive or not, it's just sad...
To think that I have not played a single Call of Duty campaign since Black Ops one. These stories are so well written, and the deaths of important characters really feels like a punsch to the gut.
Park was canonly alive, and if she dies it was non-cannon, but lazar is canonly dead, and if he's alive it was non-cannon, because season 2 of cold war it shows park was there alive and well alongside with woods finding adler to rescue him from stitch if you remember it guys!
COD is probably the only franchise that actually had you go through the holocaust camps like they did in COD WW2 at the end of the game. That alone was a heroic moment.
The death scene with ghost and roach I remember so vividly. Not because it was a memorable scene but because when I was a kid I died in that mission so many times. Took me two hours just to get to the landing zone just for me to get shot and die either way, I was so mad bro
9:18 - Lol, I remember my college days when one of my college blockmates wherein after taking the subject for the 2nd time, has failed and had to retake it for the 3rd time.
The hardest deaths for me were Soap, Ethan, and Dmitri. What saddened me about Dmitri’s death the most is that after all he did for his country he wasn’t even honored after the battle he was shipped off to Siberia where he died for nothing.
They made some of the deaths in MW2 Remastered so much more cinematic/impactful, like you can hear the astronaut's heart rate rising and his breathing get heavier as he realizes he's about to die. And Roach grabbing onto Shepherd's arm almost like he's saying "...why did you do this?"
The top down shot of Turner in the mud as the enemies advance past him was the real gut shot. He was the nicest guy around (besides the murder 😂), but fr, makes you remember you're killing personalities just like his in the war.
For me, aw was such a underrated game. The cutscenes were like you're watching a movie. Great characters, and missions my favorite missions are when you kill Hades, the drone part was awesome, and when you infiltrate Irons house
Although Scarecrow and Ozone aren’t on there (as they aren’t cinematic deaths) I thought I might as well mention them as well. (Both can be kept alive during the raid if you save them while Ghost downloads, though hella difficult. It just buys a few moments of life. Ozone is gunned down either way, and Scarecrow is hit by a mortar shell)
I remember the defunct theory that Ghost was actually Gaz, and I was beyond hyped because Gaz was literally pointman for Captain Price through the MW, and it kinda made sense at the time that Ghost would be Gaz
Never met someone who was traumatised as hard as I was when Staff Sergeant Griggs got headshotted. That came so out of left field. I totally expected Griggs to be one of the ones who survived and then bang.
I’m gonna say it Kashima probably hit me the hardest out of any death in COD. He is the biggest slept on character in COD for me. The combination of his attempt to keep things light hearted and positive to the end while you can slowly feel his heartbeat fade through the vibration of the controller was actually the first time COD actually got an emotional reaction to a death from me besides Soap in the OG MW3. I’m gonna say it and don’t think I didn’t care about him but I think Kashima had a much sadder death then Ethan.
9:08 we know for years Victor Reznov as been dead for years but BO6 in in a week we need to wait for clarification to see if Reznow really died because we’re going back to Vorkuta in bo6 there is a map for that
I enjoyed the dynamic of MW2/3's contractors. The little conversations you saw gave them personality compared to the original MW2. The mission where you play as Shadow Company PMC's really showed us they were just military dudes as well as our characters. I liked it, even though it was more of an interactable cutscene. Graves had some of the best swagger, and honestly I'm glad there was a position to bring him back with the tension caused. Was not a fan of MW3's campaign but it was interesting nonetheless.
Glad to see COD3 still gets some love here. Although I know I'd sound like a whiner, I'll never forget Big Red One's squad deaths. Two of them hit me hard. Vic Denley, killed by a machine gun fire behind a door he's about to kick. And Brooklyn, killed by a mortar round at the final mission.
If Activision wanted to make millions/billions all they would have to do is remaster the older CoD games without changing anything except maybe the graphics
Man, its one thing seeing our fallen comrades in COD to fall and having our hearts ripped out. But to see that image 21:31 first hand as the one to give the order. Hits different.
Интересный факт: Смерть Роуча единственная смерть главного протагониста от первого лица в трилогии Modern Warfare (ну не считая Прайса в последней миссии MW3 но мы так и не знаем умер он или выжил
Yuri...The man who sacrifised everything to kill makarov.🫡
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The man that hates makarov more than captain price
Yuri hate Makarov so much.
now he’s just an informant in the reboot, they gotta make him as significant in the next game
@@s-lx7roi dont think theyre making one
"To those you serve, your life mean nothing!"
Rest In Peace, fallen comrade and hero
Raul...Menendez...
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sandman and his squad staying behind to cover price and the helicopter was the most noble bad ass shit RIP sandman ✊
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That was one of the heaviest ones for me. A Delta squad holding back the tide. Running out of ammo and swapping to their sidearms. Pretty sure at one point one of them gets a melee kill.
I cried as a kid the first time i played that, i wanted to save them so badly lol
thankfully your character derek frost doesnt go on that mission and lives
if you actually play the spec ops for MW3 for the mines and put your subtitles on , You play as Sandman , He actually survived the mine collapsing
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Status K.I.A
Confirmed in his wiki...rip delta squad
Thank you for including cod 3. Too many people seem to forget about it.
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Well he forgot COD1, 2 and big red one
@@slothassasin1055And finest hour
As well as final fronts
Criminally Underrated Cod
Ethan hits harder than anyone except Soap, Infinite was severely underrated rated for a campaign
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Thats why i only rate cod games from the campaign and zombies mode (if they have zombies)
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and kashima
“Dimitri…. …. Someone should read this”
One of the most wholesome lines in all of cod
especially because in the beginning of the mission he says to Chernov "No one will ever read this."
Rip Dimitri He fought the Wehrmacht and Nazis only to be brought down by his on comrades the people he fought and died for
He wasn't fighting for them, Dragovich went rogue.
@@Sun-Tzu- what I mean is he died to a Russian/soviet or former Soviet
@@momo-chan366 you mean, like he died by Dragovich, after being betrayed by him.
And my boy reznov was watching
3:53 was probably the most terrifying death. Imagine dying in space where nobody will ever find you. You'll quite literally be floating around forever.
He probably died from the impact or had his helmet cracked so I doubt he would have to float around until he died
Infinite warfare. Man the campaign is everything to me, especially the end when you learn out of the 400 soldiers only 4 returned home.
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apparently it was closer to 800 people aboard the ship
@@MCBoult 767 to be precise. 763 casualties, 4 survivors.
The cinematic deaths are some of the best parts of these games. If it's one thing that remains high quality with CoD, it's definitely the character deaths.
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Turner's death hit me like a truck. First time I teared up in a CoD game.
@Cipher682 Same here, bro!
Yes turners death was sad but a legendary one to
No sacrifice too great..
@@Orangutangang-f2o No mission too difficult! No sacrifice too great! Duty first!
Fun fact, Lt turner was a real Lieutenant in world war 2
Man infinite warfares campaign will always hit like a truck.
Dimitri Petrenko’s death hurt me a lot because I LOVED playing as him in World at War so seeing him die like that in BO1 broke my heart
Dixon was my first favorite character to die in any game or movie. he hit me hard. but I remember fondly Guzzo's development as the squads outcast to him rising to lead us throughout the rest of that horrifying battle. and Huxley? hell, the war changed the man. better or worse, I believe he became Guzzo's second, and the two, alongside Nickels, completely destroyed the Kraut war machine.
I hope Sgt. Callard got his Victoria Cross as well.
Man… somebody else who looks upon cod3 the way I do. Never thought I’d see the day. My gamertag is ARFTROOPERBOIL
Out of all the Call Of Duty games I've played, Call Of Duty 3 will forever remain my favourite. The story is an absolute masterpiece.
Whoever hasn't played it or hasn't heard of it, they're missing out.
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Cod 2 Big Red One and Cod 3 were my firsts
Cod 3 was my first game
@@kingace6576 very nostalgic game 😏
@@kingace6576 Mine too
Yuri, Soap, Ghost, Roach... These are the deaths that really got to me
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@@icekingcodGhost, GAZ, Bowman, Hudson, Soap, Yuri and Ethan
Advanced warfare still looks incredible 10 years later. If I didn't know shit about call of duty and you told me it came out like, 2 years ago I'd believe it
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Rest in peace to the fallen heroes 🫡
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I miss all of them
But thanks to our heroes from our country that always defend our nation. 🫡
How dare anyone forget Brooklyn in Big Red One. Dude was trying to clear a path through barbed wire and ate some artillery trying to tell the others to get away from the explosions.
sorry
And Vic from that game, plus Sgt. Hawkins since he had 2-3 near death experiences with the last having you watch him get driven away by medics; leaving you and a few others to lead the squad.
@@icekingcodBrooklyn vic hawk Allan
Don’t forget Dempsey I think his name was sarge good friend in big red one
More than half of these remind me of that quote from Free State of Jones.
“He died with honor.”
“No, Will, he just died.”
Not many of these deaths are heroic by any stretch of the imagination, they’re tragic.
One of the few “heroic” deaths in this video was turner from cod WWII that game has an underrated campaign and turner’s sacrifice was one of the very few that had any sort of heroism, turner truly died with honour
Mccullin, Callard, Isabelle, Dixon, Vasquez, Jackson, Griggs, Gaz, Allen, Houston Satellite Team, Ghost, Roach, Harkov, Griffin, Kamarov, Soap, Sandman, Grinch, Truck, Yuri, Sullivan, Roebuck (If you save Polonsky), Polonsky (if you save Roebuck), Chernov, Dimitri, Sergei, Reznov, Clarke, Swift, Bowman, Hudson, Mason (BO2: If you Kill him, or BOCW: If you pick the Bad Ending), Harper, Farid (If you let Harper Live, or if Haper is Dead, Farid will Sacrifice himself to save Chloe then dies as well), Chloe (If you let Defalco live, he will kill Chloe, or If Defalco is Dead Salazar will be the one who will Kill Chloe), Anderson (I don't know the reason if she dies or lives), Woods (BO2: if you let Menendez live, or BOCW: if you pick the Bad Ending), Baker and Kiera, Ajax, Elias, Will, Nox, Cormack, Kane, Taylor, Reyes, Ethan, Omar, Gator, Kashima, and the Rest of the Character's in Infinite Warfare, except 4 Survivors, some WW2 US Soldiers, Turner, Perez, Paul, Some of the 3 Marines in MW2019 First mission, Farah's Father, Bell (if you pick the Good Ending) Lazar (If you pick Park), Park (If you pick Lazar, or the Bad Ending), Sims (if you pick the Bad Ending), Tommy (The guy who got shot when he opened the Dunker Door), Polina's Father, Misha, Lewis Howard, Des, Novak, Richard Webb, some of the Shadow's who were ambushed by Konni, Hadir, One of Farah's Friend in MWIII, the Lady in the Plane in MWIII, Soap (Again, this time the Reboot Version).
Ya I wish soap didn’t die
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Many choice in black op 2. It a nice game.
Greta Keller
Sims didn’t died
Only real Legends will miss asking turner for ammo 😢
Not og but ok
So true 😢😢😢😢
True 😥
Need some ammo Lieutenant
@@Luke05311 "it was an honor"
CoD 3 is extremely underrated for those that didn’t play it.
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Bro IW got so much hate for nothing, the campaign had me in tears
This is what call of duty stories have always been about at heart. Men making the ultimate sacrifice and doing what has to be done, because nobody else will.
Showing love to COD3. Awesome
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Appreciate you starting at cod 3. That was my second COD I ever played and remembered getting it for Christmas. Can’t believe the way Dixon died
I enjoyed this game. I played it right after finishing Call of Duty 2
10:12 mason: bowman! You son of the birch
34:07 the most iconic modern warfare soldier is dead like Og mw3
@@worldbiggestfan1 but everyone hates it cuz it's terrible even though I don't even know about that plot twist.
But Bowman's death is truly sad.
I love that Worthington's Australian accent slips there.
"Yew _fucking_ sonuvabitch!"
Props for recognizing call of duty 3! Callard death was something else
That one Private who goes to check the village after it's bombardment in first COD will forever live in my heart.
SAT1 got the most saddest and scariest death ever in COD MW Series, flying into the darkness of space, lonely, no food or water, forgotten by everyone except his family, where his body goes is unknown, we don't know if he's alive or not, it's just sad...
Both helmets was cracked, and they started to burn in atmosphere, so it was not long
Call of Duty 3 and World at War need a remaster
To think that I have not played a single Call of Duty campaign since Black Ops one. These stories are so well written, and the deaths of important characters really feels like a punsch to the gut.
“Good luck Reyes, it’s been an honor”
-Metal-1
“Honors all my mine Metal-1…”
Honor was all mine metal-1*
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Mannnn, Ww2 was such an amazing game. It's a top 3 CoD game for me
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turner's death gotta be the most cinematic masterpiece I have ever seen.
Park was canonly alive, and if she dies it was non-cannon, but lazar is canonly dead, and if he's alive it was non-cannon, because season 2 of cold war it shows park was there alive and well alongside with woods finding adler to rescue him from stitch if you remember it guys!
Park is indeed alive, she's in BO6
The type of man we need they go dark they see danger for you to leave r.i.p to this heroes( Thanks for the edit man)👌🤜🤛
COD is probably the only franchise that actually had you go through the holocaust camps like they did in COD WW2 at the end of the game. That alone was a heroic moment.
20:07 R.I.P Kashima i'll miss you and your stories about your buddy Keith.
"Is that rain, sir?" 😥🫡
Going from Ghosts to Advanced Warfare the facial animations and the lighting just takes a massive leap, damn the PS4/XOne were a good gen
Infinite warfare I feel was highly underrated. A lot of heroic deaths in that one.
The death scene with ghost and roach I remember so vividly. Not because it was a memorable scene but because when I was a kid I died in that mission so many times. Took me two hours just to get to the landing zone just for me to get shot and die either way, I was so mad bro
COD3 was such a banger game for its time.
9:18 - Lol, I remember my college days when one of my college blockmates wherein after taking the subject for the 2nd time, has failed and had to retake it for the 3rd time.
The hardest deaths for me were Soap, Ethan, and Dmitri. What saddened me about Dmitri’s death the most is that after all he did for his country he wasn’t even honored after the battle he was shipped off to Siberia where he died for nothing.
Yeah, this was the most unfair death in the bo series.
2:26 fast forwarded 10 seconds. Crazy transition
After many years, death Ghost is so painfull 😢
They made some of the deaths in MW2 Remastered so much more cinematic/impactful, like you can hear the astronaut's heart rate rising and his breathing get heavier as he realizes he's about to die. And Roach grabbing onto Shepherd's arm almost like he's saying "...why did you do this?"
All these COD 3 hero’s make me cry every time. One of the most underrated CODS of all time.
At least Mason's alive is Canon
Well about that
Its not apparently
My Favorite - Death Vasquez. To say before dying, "We will leave no one here," is worthy of respect.
We will miss you........
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God I realized how much I cried during infinites campaign literally everyone dies even the main character
The top down shot of Turner in the mud as the enemies advance past him was the real gut shot. He was the nicest guy around (besides the murder 😂), but fr, makes you remember you're killing personalities just like his in the war.
“Press F” is craazy
“Is that rain, sir?” Still always gets me
I remember a lot of these old ones, Vic is the legend for me
13:38 cod ghosts was underrated
Nope
@ tf you mean
@@DigitalDaredevilYT it's dog and is rated as such
@ you’ve never played it
@@DigitalDaredevilYT bro, I've played every Call of Duty on release since 3. Wise up.
For me, aw was such a underrated game. The cutscenes were like you're watching a movie. Great characters, and missions my favorite missions are when you kill Hades, the drone part was awesome, and when you infiltrate Irons house
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I remember playing modern warfare on my ps3 and when Soap died i cried to my mom lmao i thought he died in real life.. she was so confused 💀💀
You forgot Sgt. Puskov from CoD Finest Hour and Pvt. Vic and Cpl. Brooklyn from CoD 2 Big Red One.
I’m glad I’m not the only one remembering Brooklyn from Big Red One
@@B1ackHawkDownStudio He’s from the Bronx, Sarge.
Although Scarecrow and Ozone aren’t on there (as they aren’t cinematic deaths) I thought I might as well mention them as well. (Both can be kept alive during the raid if you save them while Ghost downloads, though hella difficult. It just buys a few moments of life. Ozone is gunned down either way, and Scarecrow is hit by a mortar shell)
Missed Brooklyn’s death in COD 2 BR1, but seeing everything in a row really shows how even in video games… life is fleeting
Bell’s death shocks me every time and leaves me wondering why Adler kills him
To this day SSGT Griggs is the whole reason I started wearing sleeveless gear. Him, Truck & Sandman are all favourites💪🔥
"Is that rain, sir?"
Still hits so hard and I'm not sure why.
Thanks man
When I first played cod ww2 turner was a brother to me seeing this made me cry that man was keeping us alive and safe till the end
My first COD was COD 3 on the original Xbox and Dixon's death was the first to get a reaction out of me. I don't think I was even ten yet.
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Funny how the ones who died were always the ones you wanted to live 😢❤
Sgt.Griggs was one of my fav characters from Modern Warfare hes super underrated. Wish he was used more
I remember the defunct theory that Ghost was actually Gaz, and I was beyond hyped because Gaz was literally pointman for Captain Price through the MW, and it kinda made sense at the time that Ghost would be Gaz
Never met someone who was traumatised as hard as I was when Staff Sergeant Griggs got headshotted.
That came so out of left field. I totally expected Griggs to be one of the ones who survived and then bang.
"No Sacrifice Too great" True words
"Duty First!" 🫡
Call of duty 3 was my very first game and boy did it rip my heart out with the characters
me when sergei dies: 😢
me when sergei stands back up: 😃
me when sergei immediately dies again 1 frame later: 😢
12:01 farid’s life was nothing because everyone doesn’t like him but he safe karma’s life, pray to him
Farid is the goat 🫡🐐
He should have at least been in the cordis die mission and helping section in judgement day
Loved the older cods, you truly just feel like a normal soldier in a large war.
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I am BIG Fan of COD!!!
I love the campaigns so much than multiplayers!
I’m gonna say it Kashima probably hit me the hardest out of any death in COD. He is the biggest slept on character in COD for me. The combination of his attempt to keep things light hearted and positive to the end while you can slowly feel his heartbeat fade through the vibration of the controller was actually the first time COD actually got an emotional reaction to a death from me besides Soap in the OG MW3.
I’m gonna say it and don’t think I didn’t care about him but I think Kashima had a much sadder death then Ethan.
9:08 we know for years Victor Reznov as been dead for years but BO6 in in a week we need to wait for clarification to see if Reznow really died because we’re going back to Vorkuta in bo6 there is a map for that
I'm really looking forward to Resnov's return.
Was not expecting to see cod 3 one of the best cods of all time
I enjoyed the dynamic of MW2/3's contractors. The little conversations you saw gave them personality compared to the original MW2. The mission where you play as Shadow Company PMC's really showed us they were just military dudes as well as our characters. I liked it, even though it was more of an interactable cutscene.
Graves had some of the best swagger, and honestly I'm glad there was a position to bring him back with the tension caused. Was not a fan of MW3's campaign but it was interesting nonetheless.
Rest in peace to the fallen. Our heroes meant something to us all. I salute to our fallen brothers and sisters! 🫡🫡🫡
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Cod 3 and black ops 1 remain my favorite of all time .
Glad to see COD3 still gets some love here. Although I know I'd sound like a whiner, I'll never forget Big Red One's squad deaths. Two of them hit me hard. Vic Denley, killed by a machine gun fire behind a door he's about to kick. And Brooklyn, killed by a mortar round at the final mission.
Wills, Knox, cormack, Simon Riley, Mactavish, bro them dying hit me hard ong I love those characters
Call of duty 3 is my favorite of them all loved the campaign and multiplayer
Do all cod characters that are caked up next
If Activision wanted to make millions/billions all they would have to do is remaster the older CoD games without changing anything except maybe the graphics
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Man, its one thing seeing our fallen comrades in COD to fall and having our hearts ripped out. But to see that image 21:31 first hand as the one to give the order. Hits different.
The fact that you took off music for the most of them, it feels realistic
The black ops deaths just hit different
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2:44 over 30,000 marines heroic death 🫡🇺🇸 sgt Griggs, Gaz, Mac, 2 other guys, ghost, roach, soap, rookie, delta team: sandman, Truck, Grinch. yuri. forgotten characters they didn’t mention it.
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Salter:ENEMY AIRSHIP! Gator:GET DOWN SIR! 20:16
Nick:GATOR!
Salter:He's Gone Reyes
Nick:Shit!
The deaths in Infinite Warfare and Turner hit me hard when i was smaller
Played almost every campaign since cod 3 on the ps2 and no death will be more heroic than sandman, truck and grinch’s from OG mw3.
Rip all the legends who died in these tragic times
Интересный факт: Смерть Роуча единственная смерть главного протагониста от первого лица в трилогии Modern Warfare (ну не считая Прайса в последней миссии MW3 но мы так и не знаем умер он или выжил