Max Kellerman REFUSING Disrespect from Stephen A Smith Compilation! ESPN First Take Terrell Owens

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  • Max Kellerman REFUSING to Back Down from Stephen A Smith Compilation! ESPN First Take Terrell Owens. First Take today, NBA Today, NBA on ESPN. Max Kellerman Stephen A Smith beef. Terrell Owens Stephen A Smith beef. Terrell Owens VS Stephen A Smith. Joe Budden Show, Joe Budden podcast Stephen A Smith. Malika Andrews, Kendrick Perkins. Heated debate on ESPN First Take. Max Kellerman owning Stephen A Smith. Shannon Sharpe First Take, Mad Dog First Take. Skip Bayless, Undisputed on FS1. First Things First today. Richard Sherman, Michael Irvin. Max Kellerman fired from ESPN. Max is blacker than you Stephen A Smith First Take. Stephen A Smith podcast. Stephen A Smith Show.
    0:00 Max makes fun of Stephen A
    0:32 Stephen A and Jay Williams try to bully Max
    3:31 Stephen A prevents Max from finishing segment
    6:18 'I'm not talking about this' Stephen A dismisses Max
    8:41 'Max is blacker' Terrell Owens segment
    10:26 Why sports fans are upset with Stephen A
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  • @CowboyKee
    @CowboyKee 8 місяців тому +3665

    Max is an example of what not kissing ass and having a different opinion looks like. They’re getting rid of real sports analyst and turning it into a culture war

    • @MetalFacedGamer
      @MetalFacedGamer 8 місяців тому +85

      This is the corporate world in a nutshell.
      Stephen ain't been s**** and skip left
      The ratings were fine and he got crushed regularly. Not because Max was trying to crush him but because Steven A. Has low self-esteem and has a fear of inferiority....
      It's sad.
      He's a grown man with millions of dollars and he still can't go over his inferiority. Complexes

    • @DannyP-dm1pw
      @DannyP-dm1pw 8 місяців тому +15

      Bro I legit don't watch American sports or tv anymore and this is coming from an insane 90's NBA on NBC kid with Champion Jerseys and Penny Hardaway sneakers. NFL 80s and 90s Giants. Huge fan of Baseball and now nothing. I refuse to be apart of the culture war of USA. I grew up in the 80s and 90s in a mixed very mixed area of NYC and high school everyone got along. Legit everyone. Nowadays this USA tries to make it seem we always had problems. Done. I been watching the current Sumo Tournament in Japan that's going on right now and I am loving it. I will continue to check out other overseas sports and support Hockey outside of the NHL because the NHL simps now for Americans and ESPN too

    • @jawaunHayes-fb4pe
      @jawaunHayes-fb4pe 8 місяців тому +34

      I said the same thing. Max knew his stuff. Steven a was threatened by max

    • @theresatoyota-yq4sk
      @theresatoyota-yq4sk 8 місяців тому +2

      I can respect that, I ultimately always consider the bias either way in media, it’s become a protective measure naturally. A well educated and thoughtful person can weed out bs

    • @MetalFacedGamer
      @MetalFacedGamer 8 місяців тому

      @@DannyP-dm1pw I love basketball And I am an agreeance that has become annoying.
      I'm also a huge UFC fan and I'm praying it takes quite a while before that becomes with the NBA boxing and NFL have become

  • @croishant5061
    @croishant5061 8 місяців тому +1997

    Stephen A is the example of “ If I’m louder, I’m right”

    • @yourunclesimp1
      @yourunclesimp1 8 місяців тому +12

      Exactly

    • @Duckduckgoose17
      @Duckduckgoose17 8 місяців тому +4

      He was right though 😂😂😂😂💯 stop whitewashing everything

    • @Balboainc
      @Balboainc 8 місяців тому +51

      ​@@Duckduckgoose17he wasn't right and I don't have to mention a color to know that😂😂

    • @yourunclesimp1
      @yourunclesimp1 7 місяців тому +41

      @@Duckduckgoose17 white washing? I Ain’t even white but boy do you like to bring up race into everything. It’s like your get out of jail free card.

    • @seangagnonProvidenceR.I.
      @seangagnonProvidenceR.I. 7 місяців тому +1

      Precisely

  • @quintonspicer
    @quintonspicer 7 місяців тому +454

    Max is one of the few guys on TV that wasn't a character. He utilized logic, and that will always prevail in debating.

    • @carefulilickwindows6881
      @carefulilickwindows6881 2 місяці тому +14

      He utilized logic as long as it didn't involve iguadola

    • @jordanmiller8754
      @jordanmiller8754 Місяць тому +1

      @@carefulilickwindows6881yea not gonna lie he was always accurate until it came to iggy

    • @mhead1117
      @mhead1117 Місяць тому +2

      I WANT IGUODALA 🎉🎉🎉

    • @deezyloaded6137
      @deezyloaded6137 20 днів тому

      Just like when he took kawhi over kobe? & igoudala over curry?

  • @starwars23388
    @starwars23388 7 місяців тому +122

    Max was soooooo unbothered by the screaming and buffoonery. It’s like my toddler throwing a tantrum 😂😂😂

    • @ScarletDream21
      @ScarletDream21 20 днів тому

      All of Max's kids are girls so he's used to tantrums and attitudes 😂

    • @samcouch-vi4mh
      @samcouch-vi4mh 11 днів тому

      Stephen A Smith is the prime example of the old saying, Sometimes it is better to keep your mouth shut and let people assume you are stupid rather than open it and remove all doubt..

  • @danandhibb
    @danandhibb 8 місяців тому +4579

    100%. This was all about the Terrell Owens comment. And quiet as kept. As a black person I have much more respect for Max Kellerman on social issues.

    • @Ausnapify
      @Ausnapify 8 місяців тому +90

      Facts. Same.

    • @chrisNimblett1
      @chrisNimblett1 8 місяців тому +137

      Steven A. Smith gets paid for being controversial, he goes out of his way to do so. To me he is entertaining but sometimes he takes it to far especially with these clips of disrespect to Kellerman

    • @DPizzle
      @DPizzle 8 місяців тому +16

      I agree🫱🏿‍🫲🏾

    • @crinzeldavis
      @crinzeldavis 8 місяців тому +73

      That's right, SAS is all Mouth, probably can't fight a lick !

    • @jaydurant3048
      @jaydurant3048 8 місяців тому +13

      Same & same. 💯

  • @Moses_C
    @Moses_C 8 місяців тому +2785

    I miss max on first take. He would make Stephen A look crazy and I loved it!

    • @winojoe6788
      @winojoe6788 8 місяців тому +31

      Well, he is crazy.

    • @julienalexander6113
      @julienalexander6113 8 місяців тому +3

      💯💯💯

    • @37wall81
      @37wall81 8 місяців тому

      and thats exactly why stephen a couldnt work with him! get this bozo dallas Hater outta here. they should only let stephen do basketball

    • @GeeNoTv19
      @GeeNoTv19 8 місяців тому +11

      I don't lol max lame af

    • @MetalFacedGamer
      @MetalFacedGamer 8 місяців тому +36

      And he would do it without even trying.
      The gap and education and intelligence was outstanding

  • @Apollocreed2076
    @Apollocreed2076 7 місяців тому +116

    Max " That's on you, bruh. You say what you gotta say." I feel you, Max.

    • @ho2673
      @ho2673 16 днів тому

      Best comment

  • @ricky8780
    @ricky8780 7 місяців тому +130

    Max Kellerman is an under-appreciated genius. The methodical ways in which he angles his argument mimics a chess game. He positions it such that the rebuttal from his counterpart(s) further strengthen his point the further they dive into theirs, and he knows it. Because as soon as they scoff at his point, he shoots empirical evidence right at them, and all they can say is, “But you was never an athlete”.

    • @BoboMcBooboy
      @BoboMcBooboy 7 місяців тому +1

      And now the new trick is "and you was never even a journalist dog!?"-

    • @jonpark6650
      @jonpark6650 4 місяці тому +5

      Max made Stephen A look bad
      because Max was smarter and made
      a lot better points when debating.
      Stephen A only knew how to yell and race bait.

  • @NotebookLives
    @NotebookLives 8 місяців тому +1699

    Stephen A’s reaction to Terrell Owens saying Max seems blacker than him never ceases to take me out. 😂😂😂

    • @Fantabiscuit
      @Fantabiscuit 8 місяців тому +44

      First time I saw it. Wow. Massive burn MASSIVE

    • @gregdaze2390
      @gregdaze2390 8 місяців тому +110

      What gets me is max trying his hardest to keep a straight face 😂😂… hes sitting there like 😳😏

    • @cheesesteakphilly
      @cheesesteakphilly 8 місяців тому +65

      Max is blacker than SAS.
      Watch the segment with Meek Mill about the most influential rappers to the NBA.
      Also, Max can spit on the mic.
      Max is well respected by the boxing org. SAS pretends that he knows boxing/fighting (watch the clip with Joe Rogan too) lol.

    • @Fantabiscuit
      @Fantabiscuit 8 місяців тому +13

      @@cheesesteakphilly the Rogan stuff was embarrassing to watch

    • @drayz9655
      @drayz9655 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@gregdaze2390😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ChinueTV1
    @ChinueTV1 8 місяців тому +1638

    These clips make me realize how much I miss max. A show with him and Shannon would be good

    • @bullishbilly
      @bullishbilly 8 місяців тому +99

      Fax. Him and Shannon is the real combo

    • @sitonmuhdeckasshole
      @sitonmuhdeckasshole 8 місяців тому +2

      It's actually a joke how much more Max understood and followed the sport compared to Stephen A. Stephen is only a personality, he knows virtually nothing about sports. His best sport is supposed to be baskbetball and he's the second worst analyst in the game outside of Perkins.

    • @lesnarbuiltthepyramids3788
      @lesnarbuiltthepyramids3788 8 місяців тому +40

      I used to always say Max had the best takes on the show and y’all called me nuts! Damnit man I hate that we can’t realize what we have until it’s gone but even his most ridiculous takes MADE SENSE.

    • @gregnash383
      @gregnash383 7 місяців тому +9

      It wouldn’t be good, it’d be great. Stephen A is trying to mask the firing of Max with Shannon because he knows he’s universally respected and loved.

    • @benn255b3
      @benn255b3 7 місяців тому +8

      ​@@lesnarbuiltthepyramids3788for real bro!! I remember if you sided with max people would flipped tables 😂

  • @KushCalrissian
    @KushCalrissian 4 місяці тому +16

    "im in the streets everyday" is crazy 😂

  • @mikeansley5306
    @mikeansley5306 7 місяців тому +31

    Arguing that Stockton shouldn't have been on the Dream Team is crazy. He is EXACTLY the PG you want on a team of scorers with big egos. And the Dream Team won every game by 50+ so how can you go back and say it needed improvement?! Then they talk about the players nowadays who can't even win gold like they are on the same level.

  • @ljmolly4029
    @ljmolly4029 8 місяців тому +777

    Max delivered a very calm, nuanced, and fact-based argument during debates. He sprinkled in some low-key sarcasm and understated comical pettiness that was very entertaining. SCREAMIN' A SMITH just couldn't cope with that skill set.

    • @sunn209
      @sunn209 8 місяців тому +19

      Screaming A..,lol...,loud dont make you right.

    • @compilethemVines
      @compilethemVines 7 місяців тому +2

      Accurate

    • @jmiyagi12345
      @jmiyagi12345 7 місяців тому +7

      Max and Marcellus would actually be a fun show - on sports or anything they choose to talk about.

    • @jarodwilson4946
      @jarodwilson4946 7 місяців тому +3

      Max Kellerman was ruining the show, he didn’t understand how the show was to operate, so he had to go

    • @jacobcooper7064
      @jacobcooper7064 7 місяців тому

      @@jmiyagi12345max and Marcellus both were on SportNation together and have worked together before

  • @khrisfranco9776
    @khrisfranco9776 8 місяців тому +733

    I rather listen to max any day of the year rather than someone who starts to get loud if someone tells him he’s wrong 😂

    • @Onthebrink5
      @Onthebrink5 8 місяців тому

      yeah you would rather shove people over with bad info. You want simps

    • @derpderpin1568
      @derpderpin1568 8 місяців тому +3

      He was so bad at this. Guy has ZERO knowledge of any sport outside boxing. One of the worst to ever do it on these kinds of shows.

    • @kalebanth8323
      @kalebanth8323 8 місяців тому +35

      ⁠@@derpderpin1568your crazy. He’s an actual analyst. Everybody knows SAS is the worst sports analyst on TV. He’s a character, a muppet. All he does is do that little loud foolish voice and get all caricature like. Dudes a comedian

    • @Whobilation
      @Whobilation 8 місяців тому

      @@derpderpin1568 HAH 🤡

    • @dankkush1159
      @dankkush1159 8 місяців тому +2

      Dude was terrible on basketball takes lol y'all slow

  • @WeaponX702
    @WeaponX702 6 місяців тому +78

    Poor Max. What a nightmare it must be to work with Steven A. Especially on tv.

    • @kwasiappiah6992
      @kwasiappiah6992 2 місяці тому +2

      I would have quit than wait to be fired.

    • @randymarsh6931
      @randymarsh6931 Місяць тому +2

      He probably liked the money

    • @thatdarnmage1515
      @thatdarnmage1515 Місяць тому +3

      especially in a time where if you disagree you're labeled a racist lol

  • @_CertifiedSwimmer
    @_CertifiedSwimmer 7 місяців тому +33

    Max was bodying Stephen A in all the social and political issues 😂😂

  • @geraldwallace5513
    @geraldwallace5513 8 місяців тому +461

    Loved when max would just grin while S.A. blood pressure was rising 😂

    • @jjphantom8392
      @jjphantom8392 7 місяців тому +4

      😂😂😂😂

    • @rasetirbg7594
      @rasetirbg7594 7 місяців тому +6

      He knows sas is an emotional lil girl 😂 😂😂😂😂😂🤣😂🤣

  • @system331
    @system331 8 місяців тому +814

    As Wiley said, the dude is smart, educated, a history major, and much more. He’s not someone you can just walk over

    • @mossimotiberi5741
      @mossimotiberi5741 8 місяців тому +58

      Plus he’s got bars

    • @yuhyuhitsyaboi5460
      @yuhyuhitsyaboi5460 8 місяців тому +41

      History majors are always sleepers. Those dudes are always very intelligent.

    • @domagojhrgovic7419
      @domagojhrgovic7419 8 місяців тому +3

      Stephen A walked over him many times.

    • @Mayotardboi
      @Mayotardboi 8 місяців тому

      @@yuhyuhitsyaboi5460History itself has to be precise and accurate so I’d imagine to most history majors it’s second hand. Especially coming from an Ivy League status school. Not like he’s a history major from ASU. (Go devils)

    • @colonelgibbs8357
      @colonelgibbs8357 8 місяців тому

      @@domagojhrgovic7419tried to

  • @bryanolivo8627
    @bryanolivo8627 7 місяців тому +46

    Max little smirk kills me 😂

  • @rogerhage1377
    @rogerhage1377 7 місяців тому +13

    Max was the show and he was very educated and he knew a lot more about the industry

  • @Miayta
    @Miayta 8 місяців тому +1348

    We all loved max 😂😂.. so sad to see him gone

    • @darrenswift3895
      @darrenswift3895 8 місяців тому +12

      Speak for yourself. Don't say "we all"

    • @GeeNoTv19
      @GeeNoTv19 8 місяців тому +5

      I didn't 😂😂😂

    • @GOATSO99
      @GOATSO99 8 місяців тому

      Not all probably half tho

    • @TruthDissident
      @TruthDissident 8 місяців тому +2

      I didn't

    • @jDiddyi
      @jDiddyi 8 місяців тому +9

      @@GOATSO99 closer to like 70 percent

  • @MmaMadman85
    @MmaMadman85 8 місяців тому +796

    I think Max and Shannon Sharpe would honestly be an amazing first take lead. SAS been doing this shit for too long.

    • @kebrongee9614
      @kebrongee9614 8 місяців тому +34

      Agreed never thought about that combo

    • @KKOOLSKOOL
      @KKOOLSKOOL 8 місяців тому +42

      Bro it’d be a perfect combo I wish it was possible

    • @xxtooshiestyxx8756
      @xxtooshiestyxx8756 8 місяців тому +13

      Basketball topics would be atrocious 😭

    • @MmaMadman85
      @MmaMadman85 8 місяців тому +19

      @@xxtooshiestyxx8756 the entertainment factor would be 30x what it is now though 😂

    • @ericmcgowan1993
      @ericmcgowan1993 8 місяців тому +16

      @@xxtooshiestyxx8756 couldn't be any worse than Stephen's

  • @curtisburgdrof8618
    @curtisburgdrof8618 7 місяців тому +10

    Max kellerman is a classic act it's a damn shame that Steven a smith and ESPN treat him horrible

  • @leesmith6866
    @leesmith6866 7 місяців тому +29

    I can relate to Max wholeheartedly. I look forward to when he returns to the sports commentary landscape with his own sports podcast, especially focused on Boxing/Combat Sports but definitely not limited to it. I believe he could continue what he was able to establish at HBO boxing. It just takes the right fighter (Crawford) era to help him do that.

  • @PROLKR
    @PROLKR 8 місяців тому +425

    After max left, first take is still wack.

    • @mrRambleGamble
      @mrRambleGamble 8 місяців тому +46

      It's worst. They've got Mad Dog

    • @PROLKR
      @PROLKR 8 місяців тому +2

      @@mrRambleGamble 😆 🤣 😂 😹

    • @TheLuielu
      @TheLuielu 8 місяців тому

      @@mrRambleGamble😂😂😂

    • @trugee5848
      @trugee5848 8 місяців тому +10

      Yea its bad..now they got shannon..still 🗑

    • @TruthDissident
      @TruthDissident 8 місяців тому +9

      Ratings say otherwise

  • @ryanalexis1040
    @ryanalexis1040 8 місяців тому +181

    Hey I'm a black man and I miss max . His comments was always on point and witty. Especially when it came to the LeBron MJ goat debate

    • @derpderpin1568
      @derpderpin1568 8 місяців тому +2

      He was so bad at this. Guy has ZERO knowledge of any sport outside boxing. One of the worst to ever do it on these kinds of shows.

    • @PapaYogito
      @PapaYogito 8 місяців тому +3

      You saying you are a black man doesnt validate your comment anymore on top of the fact I dont think you are a black man. Especially when you hide yourself behind a profile that gives 0 context on who you really are. Just be yourself kid it will work out better for you.

    • @sitonmuhdeckasshole
      @sitonmuhdeckasshole 8 місяців тому

      Yeah, I think Stephen A didn't like that Max made him look like an idiot.

    • @lesnarbuiltthepyramids3788
      @lesnarbuiltthepyramids3788 8 місяців тому +6

      @@derpderpin1568bad troll. Make a different comment.

    • @spinladen1774
      @spinladen1774 7 місяців тому

      Max knew way more about baseball, hockey boxing, they were even in football and you can give basketball to Smith. Smith ip more succinct and Max more nuanced. If you're a centrist like I am you like what they both brought to the table.

  • @douglasheath1812
    @douglasheath1812 7 місяців тому +7

    Damn dude. Honestly, I came into this thinking Kellerman was kind of a clown from all the stuff I have seen of him. This video kind of changed my mind. Dude had some decent points and got shouted down from loud mouth Steven A. Great video, thank you.

  • @mag-kameleon
    @mag-kameleon 5 місяців тому +6

    He knew Max was a Real one. So he had to get em off the show. We all see what happened there. Big ups to you Max, get em bro

  • @salvadorperez9980
    @salvadorperez9980 7 місяців тому +452

    When Skip did something like this to Shannon everyone makes a big deal yet when Stephen A did it to Max nobody says anything

    • @ShawnRakar
      @ShawnRakar 7 місяців тому +18

      Facts

    • @DeShawnMitchell
      @DeShawnMitchell 7 місяців тому +5

      Steven A is a god! stop the blasphemy!

    • @funswae
      @funswae 7 місяців тому +73

      @@DeShawnMitchell a god? Oh yeah ur delusional

    • @oel734
      @oel734 7 місяців тому

      @@DeShawnMitchell How does his ass taste? 🤪

    • @eduardopena5893
      @eduardopena5893 7 місяців тому +14

      @@DeShawnMitchell He took over for George Costanza as Lord of the Idiots.

  • @HillMadeMedia
    @HillMadeMedia 8 місяців тому +429

    I know that Terrell Owens take is the reason Max isn’t there, but it’s starting to seem as if SAS knew Max was simply smarter than him, and he couldn’t allow that.

    • @ZackIAm
      @ZackIAm 8 місяців тому +15

      The TO thing was the straw that broke the camels back, but the writing was on the way way before.

    • @lokostill
      @lokostill 8 місяців тому +6

      It was obvious. Joe Budden asked Smith about it in a podcast and smith said he didn't want to be #2.

    • @Taydutt13
      @Taydutt13 8 місяців тому +2

      Max went to northwestern so I imagine he's incredibly smart
      Edit: excuse me he went to Columbia

    • @dktreee
      @dktreee 8 місяців тому +2

      It's so obvious

    • @wadecountybabe
      @wadecountybabe 8 місяців тому +2

      To comment was the last straw, SAS was insecure long before

  • @adonaiastra4581
    @adonaiastra4581 7 місяців тому +14

    Max makes me smile every time he disses Steven lol

  • @chadfisher611
    @chadfisher611 7 місяців тому +6

    Used to watch Max all the time on HBO boxing, and even though he was young, you could tell how intelligent, informed, and thoughtful he was

  • @digitalflame3498
    @digitalflame3498 8 місяців тому +328

    Bottom line is that every time there was a moment to speak on black inequality and systemic racism in America, Max had apex level consciousness, articulate, concise delivery and a tonne of facts. He repped us hard. Stephen A instead of being appreciative of the solidarity, he choose ego, jealousy and inadequacy. His selfish ego could not accept that Max was spitting the gospel on Black issues better than him. SAS always had the perspective of corporate America first, racial equality second.

    • @marcianusvalerius1992
      @marcianusvalerius1992 8 місяців тому

      Max peddling the fake woke victimhood narrative prevalent in the black community doesn't make him cool. It makes him an insufferable, preachy ideological clown who's concerned with boosting his social profile by saying all the socially/corporate accepted and approved things. But that's also due to the fact that he belongs to the small hat tribe that's anti-white and loves to pin races against each other. Apart from that, he was great as an analyst.

    • @federaikkonerer
      @federaikkonerer 8 місяців тому +5

      Well said.

    • @terrillt426
      @terrillt426 8 місяців тому

      exactamente!

    • @NeverSober8008
      @NeverSober8008 8 місяців тому +11

      They both had the same opinion, there was no diversity in thought in any of those conversations. Echo chamber

    • @andreholly2027
      @andreholly2027 8 місяців тому

      Perfectly said

  • @dgray8979
    @dgray8979 8 місяців тому +320

    Stephen A saying he’s in the streets everyday is the biggest lie ever lol

    • @jckdnls9292
      @jckdnls9292 8 місяців тому +42

      Right... He goes from the studio set to his 20 million dollar home

    • @x0x0skiller2
      @x0x0skiller2 8 місяців тому +24

      Yea, walking from your home to your driver to go to work is not being in the streets😂

    • @MarkJackson-od3fi
      @MarkJackson-od3fi 8 місяців тому +2

      Bruh.. I'm dying lmao

    • @dixztube
      @dixztube 8 місяців тому +3

      And who would want to be in the streets lol

    • @JimmyStruthers1000
      @JimmyStruthers1000 8 місяців тому +1

      Facts

  • @boethomaszzbill3733
    @boethomaszzbill3733 7 місяців тому +13

    9:56 Max held his composure fairly well😂😂

    • @WJWeber
      @WJWeber 7 місяців тому

      He looks terrified

    • @boethomaszzbill3733
      @boethomaszzbill3733 7 місяців тому +3

      @@WJWeber he really melted on the inside

  • @mr.yellowstrat3352
    @mr.yellowstrat3352 7 місяців тому +7

    The way Molly went to the break when Max brought up government propaganda 😂

  • @d1g3r
    @d1g3r 8 місяців тому +181

    Love how max uses stats, facts, and examples to make a point. Stephen A just tries to win debates by yelling louder.

    • @shadowwylde
      @shadowwylde 7 місяців тому +8

      And then he rolls his eyes when Max brings up stats and facts like they’re for nerds and mean nothing. Stephen A is a tv personality not a legit analyst.

    • @MisterMann-kh9xb
      @MisterMann-kh9xb 7 місяців тому +2

      Indeed he’s made a living off of being a loud argumentative guy. His actual sport’s knowledge is lacking for someone with so many years in sports media.

    • @Rich-km7pr
      @Rich-km7pr 5 місяців тому

      @@MisterMann-kh9xb If that was the case, he wouldn't still have a job or be so respected.

    • @brads402
      @brads402 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Rich-km7pr Bro just called Stephen A respected. Also the dude keeps a job because he pulls ratings due to how outrageous he is.

    • @jonpark6650
      @jonpark6650 4 місяці тому

      Yelling and race baiting are Stephen A's GO TO'S

  • @mrRambleGamble
    @mrRambleGamble 8 місяців тому +314

    Stephen A leans into the screeching, loud, emotional stereotype. Can't stand him.

    • @Polo22546
      @Polo22546 8 місяців тому +6

      Exactly!!

    • @ShortyMcvay517
      @ShortyMcvay517 8 місяців тому +18

      Yeah, anytime he thinks he's Inferior. He gets loud and ignorant 😅

    • @StrawhatKage
      @StrawhatKage 8 місяців тому

      He did lol

    • @dropkickninja5379
      @dropkickninja5379 8 місяців тому +14

      Traits of being raised by women

    • @ItIsYouAreNotYour
      @ItIsYouAreNotYour 8 місяців тому +2

      That's because he grew up with like 8 females.

  • @GMoniy
    @GMoniy 7 місяців тому +2

    That's Crazy! I must've been watching Undisputed so much I didn't know this was happening until after the fact.

  • @MyDixieNormis
    @MyDixieNormis 7 місяців тому +1

    Bro that first clip has got me already 😂😂

  • @cameron357
    @cameron357 8 місяців тому +154

    I remember this angry Stephen and Max just smiling through the disrespect..😂

  • @crod2312
    @crod2312 8 місяців тому +270

    Max Kellerman and Jalen Rose doing a show together would be a must watch. Hope they both get back to work soon I'm over ESPN at this point.

    • @yunghotnnow9548
      @yunghotnnow9548 8 місяців тому +4

      💯

    • @danandhibb
      @danandhibb 8 місяців тому +5

      I’d freaking love that. Great comment sir!!!

    • @sai600
      @sai600 8 місяців тому +5

      Between Stephen A and Malika, I'm sick of ESPN too. Agree 100% 🤮

    • @bscott61777
      @bscott61777 8 місяців тому +1

      That would be fire!

    • @dojo1371
      @dojo1371 8 місяців тому +6

      Nahh... Jalen Rose is too woke and his Detroit accent isn't great to listen to. Shannon and Max will be better

  • @jonathanamartinez5834
    @jonathanamartinez5834 7 місяців тому +2

    ITS LIKE WATCHING BAD SANTA . LOL

  • @dreroberts5963
    @dreroberts5963 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video

  • @jrodrichard
    @jrodrichard 8 місяців тому +190

    Max came with statistics, facts, and most important, respect. You didn't have to agree with him, but he was respectful about debating sports topics. Stephen A came with opinions, loud angry opinions, and seemed to get louder and crazier the more his opinions were opposed with facts. If you tear down First Take and look to rebuild a professional sports show, I'm starting with Max over Stephen A.

    • @jada8047
      @jada8047 8 місяців тому +1

      Steven A only their because of his personality not his intelligence on sports

    • @derpderpin1568
      @derpderpin1568 8 місяців тому +1

      He was so bad at this. Guy has ZERO knowledge of any sport outside boxing. One of the worst to ever do it on these kinds of shows.

    • @gtr0k
      @gtr0k 7 місяців тому

      @@derpderpin1568 I assume you're a racist pos if you're repeating this bs comment everywhere

    • @jarodwilson4946
      @jarodwilson4946 7 місяців тому +1

      Stephen A came with the fax and knowing a little something about basketball, Max Kellerman, who probably never watch the basketball game in his life, he only read stories about what happened the basketball games that’s why he got fired

    • @jackflash8218
      @jackflash8218 7 місяців тому

      @@jarodwilson4946 "Fax"? Gee, wonder why you're defending Smith? Birds of a certain colored feather, flock together, ain't that right... boy.

  • @Lionroar01
    @Lionroar01 8 місяців тому +194

    Max takes wasn't bad at all😂😂 The hate was real lol

    • @darkrai7597
      @darkrai7597 8 місяців тому +12

      Some were but you have to respect that Max backs everything up with facts unlike Stephan A, Shannon, and Skip who just spit out hot takes.

    • @iamhakimtv1358
      @iamhakimtv1358 8 місяців тому

      @@darkrai7597everyone has bad takes

    • @derpderpin1568
      @derpderpin1568 8 місяців тому

      He was so bad at this. Guy has ZERO knowledge of any sport outside boxing. One of the worst to ever do it on these kinds of shows.

    • @darkrai7597
      @darkrai7597 8 місяців тому +3

      @@derpderpin1568 how? He clearly watches other sports and when he makes his case, he uses facts to back it up. Honestly, the worst is probably Shannon. Outside of football, it seems like he doesn’t even watch the other sports.

    • @ediswiththememes7988
      @ediswiththememes7988 8 місяців тому +3

      The only bad take he bad was the Iggy taking the last shot

  • @boonamai8926
    @boonamai8926 8 днів тому

    Whenever someone shouts at me like that (except my boss or my parents), I simply stare at them with a huge, demonic grin on my face 😂

  • @Anonx82
    @Anonx82 8 місяців тому +153

    He saw Max as a threat and was nervous he would loose his job to Max.

    • @seanhamlet1463
      @seanhamlet1463 7 місяців тому +3

      Facts

    • @MisterMann-kh9xb
      @MisterMann-kh9xb 7 місяців тому

      You may be right there

    • @vincenthammork
      @vincenthammork 5 місяців тому

      Exactly!!!!

    • @j2theosh6969
      @j2theosh6969 4 місяці тому

      @@MisterMann-kh9xbhe spoke about it on a podcast. He basically got max fired and tried to justify it

  • @navakashgill2113
    @navakashgill2113 8 місяців тому +317

    Y’all realize JJ ain’t been on first take in a while? I think whenever their are co-hosts who are logical and can provide more compelling arguments than Stephen A, he gets em out of there 😂

    • @marcusg1021
      @marcusg1021 8 місяців тому +38

      Yup. Lol. Ain't seen JJ in forever.

    • @trap65555
      @trap65555 8 місяців тому +83

      Basketball season is over 😂why would jj be on set for football takes

    • @FaceFamous
      @FaceFamous 8 місяців тому +16

      No BASKETBALL IS ON. JJ don't talk football😂

    • @marcusg1021
      @marcusg1021 8 місяців тому +2

      @FaceFamous tis is true. But they don't just cover only football. Football is the main topic though.its football season. So tis is true.

    • @bscott61777
      @bscott61777 8 місяців тому +6

      He wasn’t a football or baseball player. When the last time you seen Perkins? 🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @HolidaySznn
    @HolidaySznn 7 місяців тому

    Great Video

  • @wyattgouldthorpe1880
    @wyattgouldthorpe1880 7 місяців тому +1

    Saying "he isn't a journalist" is the best compliment you could give him.

  • @yomister2007
    @yomister2007 8 місяців тому +58

    The more Stephen A speaks of Max, the more UA-cam goes back into history, brings the receipts; and Max looks better.

    • @emmanuelmondesir
      @emmanuelmondesir 7 місяців тому +1

      Love Stephen A but he should have kept his mouth shut.

  • @redclxxd5974
    @redclxxd5974 8 місяців тому +167

    Marcellus Wiley exposed SAS perfectly explaining Max was set up from the beginning to look bad and make SAS look good like he’s “the peoples champ” Luckily Max had to much integrity and stood up for what’s right and SAS had a problem with it. #teammax all day

    • @seeno1
      @seeno1 8 місяців тому +7

      Yeah to elaborate Wiley knows Max as they hosted a radio show together.. basically said max is a historian, Ivy League educated person. Stephen A wanted a token white man, but max is not that guy. He ran circles and made Stephen a look bad. So he had to get max out of there.

    • @p.r.2711
      @p.r.2711 8 місяців тому +3

      Max and Marcellus on ESPNLA back in the day was great radio. Their chemistry and banter was next level.

  • @BigSanbeatzz
    @BigSanbeatzz 3 місяці тому

    “I’m just saying”😂

  • @youngstoney3469
    @youngstoney3469 Місяць тому

    Stephen A I swear sounds like Danny devito in Matilda in the second clip😂 call me crazy but I swear it's on point

  • @jayz6706
    @jayz6706 8 місяців тому +122

    Dude was in SAS mind rent free 24/7 😂

  • @southpawjab4749
    @southpawjab4749 8 місяців тому +253

    The only thing I didn't like about Max was that he was too subservient to Stephen A. He should have been calling him out for the clown he is. By the end of their run he was like an abused house wife. Stephen A Smith needed to be checked.

    • @__L_S_B__
      @__L_S_B__ 8 місяців тому +38

      Its practically stephen a’s show, what do you expect

    • @kevmaralcala
      @kevmaralcala 8 місяців тому +36

      That’s career suicide. Stephen A got to much power to let that slide

    • @kingdaymon6433
      @kingdaymon6433 8 місяців тому +26

      The man has a wife and kids he needed to put food on the table for. If it was me, I would have definity been fired but I think Max did the right thing for him.

    • @Thunderbolt210
      @Thunderbolt210 8 місяців тому +34

      Max was getting paid a lot of money tk do that show, a lot of us put up with a lot of shot if the money is right,
      None of you would risk losing that kind of money because some dude is ego tripping
      Imagine being paid 5 million a year, but quitting your job because the dude you work with is an asshole.
      Some of y’all making 40k a year in a job full of assholes and you don’t quit lol, it is what it is,
      Let me get these checks..and take care of my family

    • @truckbuilt_4748
      @truckbuilt_4748 8 місяців тому +8

      You're correct, but had he done that, it would've been career suicide.

  • @shinjibing8364
    @shinjibing8364 7 місяців тому +3

    Stephen A’s method of debate against Max was to just get louder and louder because he couldn’t prove he’s smarter than max like he could with Skip. With Skip, all Stephen A ever did was use the crazy long complicated words no one ever uses to try and look smart but couldn’t with Max bc Max probably knows the words and their definitions and would call him out on using them wrong lol

  • @hezziek3
    @hezziek3 7 місяців тому +4

    Max really got on Stephen A nerves lol I love it lol

  • @richardcruz7732
    @richardcruz7732 8 місяців тому +228

    I remember seeing Max on public access TV so many years ago talking boxing and I enjoyed listening to him then. Seeing him make it to ESPN was amazing. He has always had the passion, voice and knowledge. I hope he lands a spot somewhere that respects what he brings. All love for Max, he deserved better.

    • @JoaquinTazabi
      @JoaquinTazabi 7 місяців тому +3

      Max on Boxing, I remember.

    • @NK-wy8wp
      @NK-wy8wp 7 місяців тому +5

      And MMA, he talks a lot of nonsense when it comes to that as well. Even Joe Rogan would look at SAS like what are you talking about. And Joe respects him enough to not go off on him. SAS needs to chill.

    • @maxmcgloin
      @maxmcgloin 7 місяців тому +1

      I watched Max back in the 1980s as well. He was just a kid and already he was an expert and was delivering lucid analysis.

  • @jackstraw4927
    @jackstraw4927 8 місяців тому +147

    I love this resurgence of love for Max … Good eventually prevails … sometimes quickly , sometimes slowly … but usually with a dude like SAS , one’s true colors become revealed .

    • @derpderpin1568
      @derpderpin1568 8 місяців тому

      He was so bad at this. Guy has ZERO knowledge of any sport outside boxing. One of the worst to ever do it on these kinds of shows.

    • @440-fishermandrock8
      @440-fishermandrock8 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@derpderpin1568bootlicker alert ⚠️ 📢
      Lmfao you don't know about women but you still talk about them (and fail) 😢

    • @sitonmuhdeckasshole
      @sitonmuhdeckasshole 8 місяців тому

      lmao posted this comment 4 times and not a single person liked it, is this Stephen A's burner? lmao dick riding hard@@derpderpin1568

  • @evansanchez5063
    @evansanchez5063 5 місяців тому

    Great segment!

  • @samdilworth1989
    @samdilworth1989 7 місяців тому +2

    9:43 😂 Man that really pissed off Stephen A.

  • @yungtrashcan7376
    @yungtrashcan7376 8 місяців тому +376

    “HAVE YOU SEEN THE LOCKER ROOMS? HAVE YOU SAT COURTSIDE?”
    “Yes.”
    “WELL WHATEVA”
    🤣🤣

    • @Six_Four_InA_64
      @Six_Four_InA_64 8 місяців тому +1

      Well when it comes to Stephen A, he was the only guy who took the lead and was able only to win 🏅 the game against the other two guys in his first match in his first season with a goal in his first game of Cup match against a team which is now a two team tournament

    • @ivorywatts3881
      @ivorywatts3881 7 місяців тому

      This what get me about Stephen A is like nobody knows basketball but him just like the debate on who’s the goat Michael Jordan or LeBron James in that debate no matter what someone said he had all the right and privilege to determine it’s Jordan and not saying Jordan is not the Goat but that opinion is debatable

    • @rasetirbg7594
      @rasetirbg7594 7 місяців тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @MisterMann-kh9xb
      @MisterMann-kh9xb 7 місяців тому

      He was expecting Max to say no so he could keep babbling

  • @senraq6332
    @senraq6332 8 місяців тому +148

    Max has waaay more cred.

    • @TruthDissident
      @TruthDissident 8 місяців тому +3

      Said nobody

    • @tonyb460
      @tonyb460 8 місяців тому +17

      Said almost everyone.

    • @keithjoseph128
      @keithjoseph128 8 місяців тому

      ​@@TruthDissidentan analyst and an actor.

    • @danteramirez2105
      @danteramirez2105 8 місяців тому

      Street Cred

    • @damienrichard9461
      @damienrichard9461 8 місяців тому

      @@TruthDissidentwhat you said lol tf these people smokin n they still don’t watch max

  • @IveSeenSupernatural
    @IveSeenSupernatural 2 місяці тому

    Almost spit my food out when “I’m in the streets every day “: Looks down.. oh I did

  • @KHGB
    @KHGB 7 місяців тому +4

    I actually miss Max it felt like they were actually beefing everyday on first take tho 😂

  • @ianstrying76
    @ianstrying76 8 місяців тому +65

    yea i already knew that. every time Max was right Stephen A would get Livid & add insult to injury. bro is a clown

  • @Greego
    @Greego 8 місяців тому +46

    Stephen A Smith has always been so insecure in regards to Max Kellerman. Max was always very calm and composed when going up against him because his thinking was much more methodical and intelligent while Stephen A just tries to yell over him all the time. Max simply overwhelmed SAS and Stephen A didn’t know how to handle him.

  • @Kdott729
    @Kdott729 7 місяців тому

    “INCORRECT” Im finna start using that

  • @jerrykallarakkal9178
    @jerrykallarakkal9178 7 місяців тому +3

    Max was solid for sure. Miss him on first take

  • @Ausnapify
    @Ausnapify 8 місяців тому +132

    Here's the real. Stephen A didn't like that Max was seen as campaigning for black issues better and more articulate than he. Also, Max was the anti-Skip Bayless. He didn't say many things just for shock value. And thirdly, Undisputed became more entertaining than First Take.

    • @DPizzle
      @DPizzle 8 місяців тому +2

      I agree

    • @Gemini050788
      @Gemini050788 8 місяців тому +4

      That was the double edge with max though and kind of a point to SAS. When max did have a hot take or something created “shock value” it was 9/10 strictly analytics based without complete or proper context. Love him or hate him, max has said some of the most outlandish things in sports talk history. “TOM Brady and the cliff (4 years early at that), Kawhi being more clutch than Kobe, LeBron was put here to be the greatest PG that ever lived (current is the all time leader in turnovers). Etc. Not saying he was a terrible talking head, but he def only understands black and white and that’s never the true story in sports.

    • @Ausnapify
      @Ausnapify 8 місяців тому +4

      @@Gemini050788 You said it perfectly. Playing off of Skip's ridiculousness is the formula that worked for Stephen A and Shannon.

    • @HD00957
      @HD00957 8 місяців тому +1

      Here's the real... says the basics.. 😅

    • @Ausnapify
      @Ausnapify 8 місяців тому

      @@HD00957 lol you right

  • @diegorobledo1754
    @diegorobledo1754 8 місяців тому +116

    Max was lowkey like “thank you Terrell” 😂

    • @jarodwilson4946
      @jarodwilson4946 7 місяців тому

      Max is wrong because he never watch the basketball game in his life, he’s a boxing guy and I know it all

    • @kl-re9fj
      @kl-re9fj 7 місяців тому

      ​@@jarodwilson4946all the basketball facts he just delivered I this video was spot on and I watch basketball

    • @WilliamsWrestlin
      @WilliamsWrestlin 7 місяців тому

      ​@@jarodwilson4946shut up

  • @factzfromakt1860
    @factzfromakt1860 4 дні тому

    I loved Max Kellerman on First Take because he actually CHALLENGED Stephen A. Smith. When he left I had stopped watching First Take but now that Uncle Shay is on there, I’ll catch a few segments but I haven’t watched FULL EPISODES since Kellerman’s departure.

  • @the_one1001
    @the_one1001 8 місяців тому +92

    Max was right more often than SAS…
    That’s the truth…
    Did he say some wild things ? Yes but so does everyone at times including SAS.
    SAS said it was about “chemistry” I actually enjoyed Maxs breakdowns as he made you think outside the box

    • @derpderpin1568
      @derpderpin1568 8 місяців тому

      He was so bad at this. Guy has ZERO knowledge of any sport outside boxing. One of the worst to ever do it on these kinds of shows.

    • @kalebanth8323
      @kalebanth8323 8 місяців тому +5

      ⁠@@derpderpin1568the fact your copy and pasting this comment everywhere let’s me know your clearly not all there in the head relax buddy it’s going to be okay 😢

    • @Yautah
      @Yautah 8 місяців тому +1

      I WANT IGUADALA !!

    • @spacexmike
      @spacexmike 7 місяців тому

      @@derpderpin1568 that's bs, he definitely had good knowledge outside of boxing even SAS has said that

  • @GolDHakl
    @GolDHakl 8 місяців тому +74

    I miss max man. He was just a good dude..

  • @toddmiller243
    @toddmiller243 7 місяців тому +2

    Go Max....Go Max!!!!

  • @user-nz6yb2cv7p
    @user-nz6yb2cv7p 4 місяці тому +1

    SAS is Steven from Django 😂😂

  • @numbsociety
    @numbsociety 8 місяців тому +38

    you know dam well stephen A lying talking about fan reception, cus if that was the case he wouldve got molly fired

  • @derBockmann
    @derBockmann 8 місяців тому +86

    I love how Stephen A. is like: I didn't said anything to espn, it was their decision.
    And then: I said to them its either me or him.

    • @tclyde865
      @tclyde865 7 місяців тому +13

      I'll never forget the time they tried to get him to analyze mma and joe rogan roasted him 😂

    • @MrRunon
      @MrRunon 7 місяців тому +5

      @@tclyde865 He's trying to do politics on the side. Screamin' A is such a blowhard, yet he's so successful. Strange world we live in.

    • @mrmetoo8777
      @mrmetoo8777 6 місяців тому

      ​@@tclyde865would love to see that. You have a link?

  • @Mannny725
    @Mannny725 4 місяці тому +1

    When Max kellerman was at first take the show was at its prime peak I like Shannon sharpe but the show hasn’t been the same without our brother MAX

  • @Htown_Franky
    @Htown_Franky Місяць тому +1

    I don’t see how people wake up every morning and watch this ESPN BULLSHIT.

  • @Gashbasher690
    @Gashbasher690 8 місяців тому +56

    Max is honestly one of the only sports broadcasters that I can listen to without wanting to beat my own skull in

  • @curahee69
    @curahee69 8 місяців тому +39

    Max Kellerman was the reason I got into watching sports debate show.

    • @conciergemarie6981
      @conciergemarie6981 8 місяців тому +6

      Me too. I guess I prefer logical arguments more than over-the-top nonsense and noise.

    • @aa6973
      @aa6973 8 місяців тому

      Tell me your young ,without telling me your young 😅😂😂

  • @_.lxghthxnds._
    @_.lxghthxnds._ 19 днів тому

    Dude Max and Stephen A were iconic to watch. I almost had a heart attack when I found out Max was moving on cause it meant I wouldn’t be waking up to them two going at each other😭

  • @sbuyiselosandile7977
    @sbuyiselosandile7977 Місяць тому

    You did my man JR Dirty there, on the weed segment

  • @latinassassin1667
    @latinassassin1667 8 місяців тому +34

    1 thing Stephen A forgot to say about Max. MAX IS REAL ALWAYS 💯

  • @dbevels1
    @dbevels1 8 місяців тому +23

    10:05 - 'Molly hiding her laugh' straight classic. SAS knows he's fuct up.

  • @Empyre210
    @Empyre210 7 місяців тому

    “I’m in the streets everyday” ummm no you are not 😂

  • @chaddlez1379
    @chaddlez1379 8 місяців тому +20

    “I’m just sayin dawg, I’m just sayin” with that smirk on his face was hilarious

    • @abuhaadiyah9403
      @abuhaadiyah9403 8 місяців тому +1

      Really a face of fear and embarrassment. You could see he wished he never said it. No one makes a heavy comment like that followed by “I’m just sayin” unless they’re embarrassed

    • @chaddlez1379
      @chaddlez1379 8 місяців тому

      Bro I’m with T.O on this one! Max was standing up for black people on more than just this social issue which is why T.O said that. Stephen A was saying the stuff that makes his bosses happy which is cool but don’t belittle max and others for their opinion.

    • @chichigotdayayo555
      @chichigotdayayo555 8 місяців тому

      ​@@abuhaadiyah9403you crazy as hell...you must didn't see TO tweets????😂😂😂😂☠ mans STILL on SAS ass

  • @ogdondadda
    @ogdondadda 8 місяців тому +73

    I can tell you as a lifelong Bulls fan. When the Bulls played the Jazz I was as afraid of what John Stockton could do against the Bulls as I was Zeke. The fear level was the same and that’s real talk

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 8 місяців тому +6

      John Stockton took one hall of famer in Karl Malone to the finals twice. Three hall of famers took Zeke to the finals three times.

    • @katrinagwen
      @katrinagwen 8 місяців тому +5

      Right, you’re hoping Stock doesn’t steal the ball or pull up that quick 3 at most crucial situations. History has shown the damage Stock is capable of inflicting, he’s silently killed the Bulls.

    • @VoidSurfer9
      @VoidSurfer9 8 місяців тому +3

      Bro I let out a huge sigh of relief when Stockton missed that 3 at the end of game 6 in the finals sheesh😢

    • @ogdondadda
      @ogdondadda 8 місяців тому +2

      @@VoidSurfer9 facts

    • @renerougeau792
      @renerougeau792 8 місяців тому +3

      John Stockton hands down one of the coldest PG’s everrr!!! He destroyed my young lakers team it was so frustrating but then invigorating when lakers finally got past em!! 🥲😂😂

  • @varsitygraphix2407
    @varsitygraphix2407 7 місяців тому

    When he said "right now molly?" That man was finna open up a can of worms and truth on marijuana lol

  • @GG-mr9iz
    @GG-mr9iz 7 місяців тому +2

    Good for you Max! You deserve better

  • @parrits
    @parrits 8 місяців тому +54

    Terrell Owens was BAFFLED 😂🤣

  • @esmandagamer3441
    @esmandagamer3441 8 місяців тому +67

    Max is a hip-hop head , very well versed in many sports , well spoken . even keel and come across as honest .

  • @user-go6sh9rf7o
    @user-go6sh9rf7o 7 місяців тому

    The jersey was cold work 😂😂

  • @NormanGenato
    @NormanGenato 7 місяців тому +2

    Miss Max. Hope he gets back on the air

  • @BucNastyy
    @BucNastyy 7 місяців тому

    06:31 INCORRECT! fuckin sent me 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ahmadaccino
    @ahmadaccino 8 місяців тому +19

    "then why am i right so often" is such a hard response

  • @Kevin-wm1it
    @Kevin-wm1it 8 місяців тому +77

    I want to see Max have his own show, and it will show he will have more views without the drama

    • @ShermCity
      @ShermCity 8 місяців тому +2

      He did it was called “ this jus in”and it was better than first take

    • @awsgeneral
      @awsgeneral 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@ShermCityis that why it ended

    • @GOATSO99
      @GOATSO99 8 місяців тому +3

      @@ShermCityno it wasnt bro get off ya knees 😂

    • @BlackSantana
      @BlackSantana 8 місяців тому

      I understand the stephen h@te...but no Kellerman show would not do more views 😂😂😂 come on man

    • @BlackSantana
      @BlackSantana 8 місяців тому +1

      Stephen a was right about CAPernick tho