JJ Redick owning Stephen A Smith for 17 straight minutes
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2022
- JJ Redick is a former NBA player now turned analyst and he has taken his knowledge to a new level joining some ESPN shows occasionally. Every time time he is debating Stephen A Smith, it seems he is constantly prevailing and showing up as the more knowledgeable and better analyst. SO here's 17 straight minutes of JJ Redick owning Stephen A Smith
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Stephen A speaks loud
JJ speaks fax
Stephen A. speaks for players from all eras.
JJ speaks for current active players.
@@penkima4923Stephan A didn't play professionally in any era so how can he speak for them?
@@penkima4923 nope. stephen a just do not understand basketball.
he does not know it today and he did not in the past.
he's just loud
@@rb9888lol, you say that til he starts dickriding Jordan over LeBron
@@penkima4923 L
Pat being a Instigator is gold .☠️🤣
"Erroneous" I like that word.
Lol
@@adhynugroho9424lmao that part had me 💀 🤣
Dude was just taking it in lmao
“Duhhhhh!!!” Was wild but hilarious
That’s his role no matter what😂
This is why JJ hasn’t been on First Take lately😂😂
lol its just not basketball season yet
let's see if he's gna get the Max Kellerman treatment
Tbf it’s the off-season
They will bring him back for the season hopefully
I need a segment with JJ & Shannon🤣
Steph: when u watch the game…
JJ: I’ve played the game. 🤣
Stephen thinks he's the only person on Earth with eyes.
Jason Whitlock is on Scheming A. Myth’s A$$! SCANDAL WILL BREAK. JJ needs to link with JW! JW credits Katt Williams directly! Scheming A. Myth… always complimenting fashion… because he was all-city for the Fashion Institute… except he never played! Craig Hodges has NBA record 19 3’s! Yet only SAS hit 17 consecutive IN A ONE DAY TRYOUT 😂😂for a legendary coach who famously complained that his program NEVER had a penny. Watch SAS shoot a 🏀, throw a ⚾️ pitch, & box to warn Joe Rogan🥊 … HE NEVER PLAYED! JW IS RELENTLESS WITHOUT PROFANITY. SAS… WE NEED ANSWERS…
@@supercake2270he says wild stuff alot of the time but jj is delusional all the time.
That's LITERALLY JJ's only defense... ever. He always has to be the smartest person in the room. Can't stand dudes like him. Thinks he's an intellect. MJ was the GOAT... you think he was a great talent evaluator? 😂. You don't have to PLAY the game at a high level to KNOW the game. Some of the worst analysts I've seen were greats in the game. Cough* Perk.
@@RemmyRiffs Perk is not a great in NBA history lmfao
this is why Bron chose JJ to host the pod with
I love how JJ just doesn’t care who he’s talking to. Never walks on eggshells and is brutally honest. We need more analysts and hosts like him.
That’s what wealth allows. He’s smart, wealthy and a basketball savant. SAS is a huckster. I don’t dislike him, he earns his money, but I’ve heard him give some of the worst takes in a variety of sports.
the best thing about JJ is when Stephen A. says "watch the games", he can pull out the "I played the game for 15 years bitch stfu" card
He has some awful takes sometimes though.
JJ IS A RUDEE POOT GIRLIE BOY!
Personally I think 90% of analysts should be former players
SAS is literally "my feelings don't care about your facts"
lol
Your typical Jordan fan lmfaooooo
@@giftedx1391what? I would say it’s lebron fans who can’t accept facts. Equating number of points to being the goat while choking in the finals with a superteam unable to 3 peat one time.
@@williamolsen2161 that's not really true since most LeBron fans only ever care about statistics to boost LeBron's totals
@@giftedx1391 i think that jordan is the gat personally, but saying Bron doesn't strike fear into his opponents is one of the dumbest arguments I have ever heard lmao. One there is no metric for that and is just straight up false.
"I don't know whether to believe that you believe what you are saying" Has got to be one of the sickest rebuttals I have ever heard 😂
I legit lost my shit when I heard that! Absolute all time gem! 😂
its so true, SAS said that bull just to get a point across without actually thinking it through. He knows damn well that just isn't true.
I don't think SAS even understood the burn lol
When Stephen A says “Timeout” that means he lost
Timeout. That is a lie. 😮😮😮
True !!! And he tried to raise his voice thinking what he says is factual.
T.O. : max is blacker than you..
SAS: TIMEOUT TIMEOUT!!!!
Blasphemous!
Then he gonna hit you with a FIRST OFF and a 2nd point that is gonna allow him to gaslight
"I was waiting for JJ to wake up"
-Pat Beverly 😂😂😂😂
Top tier instigating
JJ Redick is karma to SAS for how he treated Kellerman
As a celtics fan, I can say the fear for lebron was very real 😂
Hated when we had to play him in the playoffs back when he was in the East
Y'all literally owned him until he made a super team. You can't be a real fan. 😂
@@jmoney6043if they don't fear him the Celtics wouldn't have made the SUPERTEAM to stop LEBRON ... I believe KG said LEBRON VOULDNT BEAT ALL 5 OK OF US
@@jmoney6043 last time we beat him was 2010, since then we lost 5 series in a row against him. Two against Miami, three against Cleveland.
Is*
JJ and Pat looked at him sideways in that first clip like “is he for real???”
He's right tho lol
@@hughglass2520 in that he missed time time in the regular season? Well duh he missed time.
@@hughglass2520how does missing games affect your shooting percentage???
@@labi5079thts not what he was sayin they put words in his mouth, omm SAS was right innat first clip cause I’m watchin it now Thinkin tht, he was prolly finna go to the fact he hadda get back in groove n yea yo shot gone be off until you get back in motion
@@Mayo_OsamaSAS definitely wrong JJ legit said his 3 pointer percentage has been low for YEARS injury for one season doesn’t change that 😂😂😂😂
SAS never misses showing how little he actually knows
Used to love him but lost respect for he what hendid max. And all his callouts on players
SAS. Same Ass Shit
SAS is literally ducking his own point as JJ calls him to the carpet. One point he is talking about FEAR off the court but then he’s clearly referring to FEAR that came from on the court.
But he always says he knows he doesn’t know the best, he speaks on what he sees. Just like a fan does. We don’t play but speak.
Dwyane Haskins "dual threat." Mic drop.
The numbers are also important. You can “Eye Test' and use numbers. JJ has the “I played with the guy test”
That part
JJ uses all 3 variables...statistics, eye test, and experience. SAS has no experience. I think you missed the entire point.
@@willvr4 Your profile pic bruh, don't ever talk shit.
@@blueman1470 You mean the pic with me and 2 friends? YOU can't tell anyone to talk shit with your anonymous blank profile.
@@willvr4 AHAHAHAH
Steven A's argument about fear and LeBron was like watching a politician trying to squirm his way out of a sex scandal.
He's right tho nobody 'FEARD' LeBron like that
Stephen A. won that argument. All the 80s and 90s players talk about how they feared MJ and made sure not to rile him up. Meanwhile you got players like Joakim Noah and Dillon Brooks calling Lebron a biatch.
@TomCruz54321Joakim Noah is literally the definition of a Lebron hater and he admits it himself that its because the bulls simply cant beat him and has literally stopped anyone from the east from getting their shot at the championship. And seriously bringing up Dillon Brooks who only got good when Lebron was like 36? and we all know how that ended up right? Bron was literally called King of the east BECAUSE they feared him. No one was getting past Miami or Cleveland in the playoffs. Also, have you seen players reactions to Lebron running down the court when going for a dunk or a chase down? Me personally I'd call the instinct to not contest and just get out the fuckin way as fear
his whole ass statement pisses me off. Acting like mfs didn’t bitch MJ around too
@@TomCruz54321Lmao MJ got bitched and thrown around so badly againest the Pistons, ain’t nobody fear his ass, even role players went after him😂 Both players had their fair share but obviously cuz of media, if it happens to Bron, yall MJ d riders pounce on it yall worse than the Bronsexuals
JJ is so real ppl take it as him being a douchebag but tbh he’s one of the few “reporters” who actually played in the league & did well so his words hold hella weight. Love this guy
Its a Duke thing
He didnt do shit in the league though
@@skullyfresh8720bro being in the league for 15 years and having the 18th most 3s ever aint impressive? Lol okay “SkullyFresh” im sure your opinion is more valuable.
@@skullyfresh8720ngl he was the best role player during his time bro
@@skullyfresh8720 you just exposed yourself as a casual lmao
Funny how jj turned this man into a podcaster and shut down the media conglomerate in less then 2 years
thank god he’s a hero
He really didn’t though. Stephen A is smart man, he knows people love to see others dump on his awful takes. JJ is great but the sports media conglomerate is absolutely still chugging along, and Stephen A is pretty much the face of it.
@joshuadillard2263 is it still chugging along?
@@joshuadillard2263you're low IQ calling him smart
@@joshuadillard2263boomer
I’m happy JJ and bron are doing their podcast now. It’s honestly one of greatest podcast out there. So much knowledgeable every video
My favorite part is Pat Bev adding fuel to the fire “I was waiting on you to wake up. I love that word”😂😂
Pat needs to be a reporter once he’s done 😂
He’s got his own pod and it’s great ;)
I like it too
I agree, I am not really a huge fan of him as a player...but man it seems like as a person that dude is pure gold especially on this show or all his interviews, hes at least alwyas real and himself
@@santoliniplus that camera pull out against the Celtics is HILARIOUS
Pat can start now
Stephen A equates intelligence with loudness
What!
More like verbosity, he thinks the more words he says the smarter it is 😂
@@oleyullah facts bro thinks he’s Lupe
That’s usual a sign of lack of intelligence I feel like when people just scream over you and think that’s a win.
@@user-mf1no9hl4p Shut up, hes doing it to for ratings and its working. That's why his show is #1 regardless of what you think of him. Hes playing a character and JJ doesn't seem to understand that
JJ takes Stephen A to school. It’s hilarious.
JJ is the best. Needs his own show.
He has it. Watch his pods
The amount outrageous things Stephen A. says and then backtracks when disputed is impressive
That's the reason he wasn't allowed to be on Undisputed anymore.
Jason Whitlock is on Scheming A. Myth’s A$$! SCANDAL WILL BREAK. JJ needs to link with JW! JW credits Katt Williams directly! Scheming A. Myth… always complimenting fashion… because he was all-city for the Fashion Institute… except he never played! Craig Hodges has NBA record 19 3’s! Yet only SAS hit 17 consecutive IN A ONE DAY TRYOUT 😂😂for a legendary coach who famously complained that his program NEVER had a penny. Watch SAS shoot a 🏀, throw a ⚾️ pitch, & box to warn Joe Rogan🥊 … HE NEVER PLAYED! JW IS RELENTLESS WITHOUT PROFANITY. SAS… WE NEED ANSWERS…
A guy who didn’t play professionally telling two professionals there wrong 2:35
Then he had the balls to tell Max that he was wrong to doubt the words of an “athlete “ aka Stephen A himself 🤣
@@jasonoyola590 he think he the reason we watch sports . He had to go get Shannon cuz undisputed was really washing them while he lyin to us talkin bout he number 1🤣
@@TOKYO9AIN lmao true 🤣
But he reported basketball since JJ was 8 😂 it’s like me saying I seen Gordon Ramsey cook a lot so I know how to cook like a 3 star chef
@@LokTar_Ogar93 exactly 😭😭
The fear debate is the best. SAS back tracked and still got destroyed 😂 I love when JJ and Jay Williams bring the heat
Getting to the league isn’t just about athleticism and skill. It also requires a very high basketball i.q, especially from those who aren’t incredibly physically gifted like JJ Redick and Pat Bev. I’m glad that there are more athletes taking sports commentating roles, you can really see the gap in knowledge between a professional athlete and journalist.
JJ is the greatest thing to ever happen to ESPN
Not really espn is dead now
@@qdakid7776wrong
I'd say Max Kellerman but he's gone now
Yes
The crazy thing is I agree with you but I hated JJ when he played for Duke. That being said he’s a basketball genius..💯💪🏾💯
The look on JJs face when he’s listening to Stephen A’s bullshit is comical😂
Like somebody trying to make sure they read that right.
Pat bevs face when he Stephen A said Jimmy Butler missed time has me crying laughing
JJ one of the most respected accurate basketball analysts how Stephen A even tries to sway his takes is funny as hell
Sas is like a tv caricature or a sports analyst. You can’t deny his hustle but people like JJ make him look a fool. JJ doesn’t let sas get away with things others would…like Perk, who is foolish and either kisses sas behind or comes out with outlandish takes
U r dead on right. It's entertainment. The hosts are like radio personalities. They need to be a little animated for entertainment value to keep the audience's attention. Personally I've never been a SAS fan at all, but I also couldn't imagine listening only to smart informative guys like JJ for hrs on end either 🥱😴
@@qbconnect2883jj's podcast is actually not boring same with Paul George's
@BetterThanYou-uj4cdwhat are u talking about bro
@@OllieDunn06the point he's making is that sas plays it up for everyone, he's the one that puts on all the bells and whistles to make the show entertaining. jj is the one with the real info, but he's much less "interesting" than sas, which is why sas is so much more popular
This is the only way to watch first take
The amount of times Stephen contradicted himself and had to readjust his take was giving me a headache 😂😂
SAS: They didn’t produce…. Pat Bev: Duhhhh😂😂
Yet, Stephen A. claims that Max was weak on basketball knowledge. Stephen A. is a journalist who is paid to go in on professional athletes in ways that are totally inappropriate in this era asking why players don't have the reverence that they once had for the generational talents. Lebron sometimes gets disrespected because journalists who would be eaten alive by those players in real life go on TV and attack the players 24/7. How does he not see that he is the reason why that happens?
SAS is just a full-blown clown if he didn't recruit Shannon to his show I'd legit never watch unless JJ was on. He's unbearable and has THE BIGGEST ego in the media which is insane considering Skip hasn't retired yet
Facts. He’s a hypocrite. All dude does is use his platform to spread misinformation as fact. He acts like he’s always right. Surprised he kept letting JJ on when he kept destroying him 😂
I’ve literally never seen anyone in the media destroy lebron even skip became nicer
@@timocruz510Exactly! He knows that deep down. He doesn't really have a fan base other than old white men that like to hear him bash "overpaid athletes", and that's a small number.
@@ye87skip does it in a likebsatire way😊
After hearing all the issues on why Max lost his position on this show and the “intellectual” insecurities SAS has its VERY clear watching these takes this is what SAS can’t handle on the show. Not his takes being “wrong” or “right”, it’s about him being publicly OUTSMARTED.
He dnt get outsmarted, JJ jus dnt take the time to listen n them ppl in his ear tellin him to go off a lil cause tha fans like to see SAS gettin owned😭listen to whts bein said n not how it’s bein said n how the ppl around them respond, JJ look like he dnt kno how to do his job frfr, n this comin frm somebody who look highly of jj
Yup he’s done a good job of surrounding himself with yes men.
@@Mayo_Osamalol whatttt
@@Mayo_Osamayou sound goofy asf lmao he got outsmarted and literally every clip JJ even gave him examples on why he was wrong multiple times. Stephen A is the type of man that thinks he’s smarter then everyone else even ppl that experienced the league and actually played in it
@@TherealjamesbLive learn how to think
When you play the game and know the sport your gonna dominate the conversation everytime.
I genuinely think JJ is the only person ever to successfully beat Stephen A in debate
Max did plenty of times
He loses every time
Biden could beat this tool in a debate
Its crazy to work as a basketball analyst for that long and not know anything about basketball
He was right in half these clips tho…….You seriously tryna tell me mfs fear lebron?😅
@@mrslammahoe956you think any grown ass man ever in the NBA ever feared another grown ass man?
Gtfo. Nobody in the league ever feared anyone
@@mrslammahoe956 the whole eastern Conference feared him wym?
@@mrslammahoe956 ask demar, paul george, al horford.
@@mrslammahoe956Toronto feared lebron, the Celtics feared lebron. The Pacers and EVEN THE 2016-17 WARRIORS.
The way JJ and Pat just ignore SAS. 😂
Why not JJ and Pat play in the league, SAS is a grand stander. He pretends to talk as if he understands the game.
Stephen A got Max fired to get cooked by JJ 😂
As much as we hate SAS, we can only blame ourselves for his celebrity. These shows have to talk for hours every day, regardless to anything worth talking about happening, and this causes them to say anything and everything all the time to have something to talk about. And the entire time, we watch it while they make money…
The more we click and react the more money and fame he gets
The reason why JJ Redick is not on First Take that often anymore lol
Stephen's personal friendship with MJ is getting in the way with him doing his job.
Facts.
Been a big time fan of JJ since his days at Duke. Became a bigger fan of him when he started debating, podcasting and commentating games. Dude has a true mind for the game and anyone can appreciate his honesty and integrity. Stand up brother and absolute monster shooting the ball
U mean bias for current players
@@rrichmond14its not bias lol, statistically the last 10 years of players would absolutely destroy any team from 70s-90s including the bulls or pistons. They’re more talented, smarter, more well coached and have better diets, trainers and routines than anything players from before 2000 could dream of.
@@RhodesianSuperiority that sounded like an ai generated, generic response. You can't be that casual
@@rrichmond14 you’re a casual if you can look at statistics and all of the numerical analysis we have today and still think 70s-90s was a better era on a per player basis 😂 bruh 50% of the league in the 70s-90s couldn’t even make a D1 college roster today
@@RhodesianSuperiority per player basis? Nah. The teams were just better and more HOF are coming from that time and not now
JJ is from my area and I knew his little brother growing up. He’s very humble but doesn’t sugarcoat anything for anyone.
Damn it all makes
Sense now. When they know more than him they’re gone haha
Idk how people say Mj was so feared but then talk about how he used to get beat up compared to players now 😂 how does that work? They so scared of pissing jordan off off but you can see multiple clips of people trash talking jordan , hard fouling etc . To act like people saw Mj and didn’t think they could take them is ridiculous. I think Sas takes these legends words literal when they are most likely speaking in hyperbole and in hindsight . They will talk about Bron the same way when he retires
W comment
You do realize there was a reason that teams like the Pistons beat up Jordan and made rules especially designed to target a player like him (the Jordan Rules)... Right? Because he was dominate and they knew exactly what they needed to do to stop him. There are elements of fear/anxiety in that mindset when teams have to tailor make gameplans and basically go WWE on a player on the court. In retrospect, the way teams beat Lebron in today's game is basically daring him to shoot and not letting him get near the rim. Basic stuff. Go look at what players who played against Jordan have to say about him after they trash talked them and MJ sent them packing. I'm sorry, but people will not talk about Lebron the same way they do about Jordan. He'll be remembered as a great team facilitator who had a really long career and accumulated a lot of stats - he won't be remembered as being as good a winner as MJ.
@@IamMaximumFury So the only thing teams did was dare lbj to shoot ? really ? No special rules, no design gameplay for him ? my brother in christ... The way people talked about jordan ? Did you hear what peolpe say about LBJ even thi he still IN THE LEAGUE ? Even the boston celtics who still hate him to this day ?
@@phillipelicard9081 daring lebron to shoot and not letting him get to the rim is a legitimate way to beat LeBron. He's lost several playoff and finals series to this tactic - hell, he got swept by the Spurs because or it. Why? Because he's not a good shooter - LeBron has something like a 35FG% from shots beyond 0-3 feet from the rim.
@@IamMaximumFury Oh yes ? which one ? The spurs ? i agree, cause they had kawhi and Tim ducan, that kinda help... and if it was that easy, this man would have 0 ring, and Tf IT HAS TO DO WITH THE FEAR ? If they dont let him go to the basket, isnt that because THEY FEAR him going there ? Make it make sense my brother...
plus you act like the jordan rules by the pistons were some deeeeeep advanced strategies. If i remember CORRECTLY it was don't let him go right or to the middle, send him to the help and slam hum down if he goes baseline. How is that different from ANYTHING teams have done to LBJ: dont let him go right and try to make him go left cause he will pull up for a jump shot more likely. in post up zone him up and double if he goes baseline or if he goes middle everyone rotate.
It's not just let him shoot...
and saying LBJ shoot 35% outside 3 feet is a straight lie my brother, he shoots 35% from 3 alone; stop it....
Its 11pm and im going to sleep listening to this. Prefect
He said “you wouldn’t waste your time sitting across from somebody that was regularly erroneous” (as a compliment to him)
Then immediately after called him a liar 😂😂😂
its not a compliment to himself to begin with and saying something is a lie isn't the same as calling him a liar. completely missed the point
@@bjergsenhall9412 “It’s not a compliment to himself”
Maybe that’s why I didn’t say “himself” and said “him” referring to who he was speaking to and not himself.
Saying that the accusation that someone is telling is a lie, is in fact calling them a liar.
This is why max got kicked out of first take. He was making screaming A look stupid on the regular.
@@mikem4481 doesn’t take a genius to be smarter than screaming A
Agree, and the same reason that JJ is no longer a guest at first take
I think Stephen A. should’ve been saying that Jimmy is a solid inside the arch shooter.
But what normally happens is that someone has a great counter argument (that’s can be right) and Stephen A. goes on a rant saying a ton of stuff nobody cares about hoping people get lost in the gab. It’s kind of annoying tbh
Yah hes practically unwatchable for me, this is like the closest I get since kellerman left
😂😂😂 I come back to this from time to time
I love in the first one Pat Bev is low key instigating. "Erroneous, I love the word." hahahahahaha
"it MIGHT have been bad if not worse for MJ on social media"
they would have had segments weekly to update us on how mj is as a father, how much has he lost now 😂
Oh yeah. All that other stuff off the court would be front page news daily. Can’t have the same life off the court now that the guys used to be able to have
Losing to the same team 3 years in a row, my goodness they would’ve destroyed MJ for that. Everybody in twitter, tv shows, podcast, everyone would been giving MJ hell
SAS brings up Lebron being shoved to the floor but not MJ getting literally choked by an opposing player and not doing a damn thing, reggie miller and rex chapman punking him and the Pistons making him literally cry to the league office.
...
"MJ getting literally choked by an opposing player and not doing a damn thing"
Who was this "opposing player"?
Reg trashtalked MJ once, and MJ made him regret it.
Rex Chapman says MJ was so much better, MJ was toying with him.
The league office took a look at the Pistons play, and the office said, the Pistons didn't play basketball.
@@penkima4923MJ complained to the newspaper about the pistons. Stop pretending he's perfect.
@@penkima4923 omg you just regurgitate nonsense the media tells you... MJ ran to the media and PERSONALLY complained to David Stern that they were 'too rough' yet hes somehow 'feared'... foh everyone knew in the 90's MJ was made literally untouchable by the league foh
@@Zack_410 The league office took a look at the Pistons play, and the office said, the Pistons didn't play basketball.
Everything you said was false
I love pat bevs face in the first clip when SAS said “missed some time”
JJ is cerebral. He stays quiet even though he knows he about to say to something that contradicts the other persons “facts” and prove them wrong.
He lets them talk and get confident where they dig themselves deeper into a hole instead of interrupting or trying to shout over them so they either have to stick with the argument or backtrack on everything they just said (either way it would make you look dumb), you can’t even tell whether he agrees or disagrees with what they are saying until he starts talking and calmly dismantling the argument.
Never interrupt an enemy when they’re about to make a mistake
Cerebral, hard working intelligent plays the right way forsure.
The reason ppl didnt talk about older players is because they didnt have social media and cell phones etc..
Yep that’s it
I would literally walk off a parking garage if I had to listen to SAS everyday
Kobe got pieced up and Reggie Miller pieced up MJ. No one has ever dared try to 2 piece LeBron. That's fear.
Watching this after seeing a skip complication of getting burnt, neither one can admit being wrong. The difference being is SAS dances or tries to sidestep being wrong where skip just keeps running into the wall. 😂😂😂
Notice that JJ isnt on 1st take anymore either.... Stephen A dont like anyone that challenges him too much and makes him look stupid. Sounds like a Max Kellermen situation
bingo
Stephen A Smith is honestly incapable of EVER saying something negative about his idol MJ.
sickening bias
They all do. Except Nick Wright and Shay
@@Mook05are they supposed to be the voices of reason lol 😂
So where is the bias in these segments. I dont care for Stephen A. that much, but nothing he said was really wrong. MJ definitely had a different aura to him than Lebron did - especially going into the 90's. He was absolutely dominate and took over games and where that aura might not have existed when he played teams like the Pistons in the 80's, there was a reason they developed things like the "Jordan Rules" and why guys like Bird called him a virtual God in the NBA world. Go look at what players who played against Jordna have to say about him after they trash talked them and MJ sent them packing. Lebron RARELY gets that man. Mainly because he has a different mindset, isn't as dominate a player (when looking at game to game dominance), and doesn't win as much.
@@IamMaximumFury it’s because they didn’t see it tbh they watched clips on UA-cam and they think they know what’s up. Context doesn’t matter to lebrons generation of fans. They are quick to dismiss the past.
This is why MJ was rated so highly, and why now Lebron is
Everyone just praises who they grew up watching
Can’t take any media seriously
Steven A takes it personal … JJ just speaks facts with a calm demeanor lol
they way JJ and Pat cocked their heads told me everything i needed to know.
I would love to see JJ and Jalen with their own show. Their knowledge and experience was so undervalued at ESPN💯
JJ has one of the best basketball podcast on here, if I were him I’d stay away from ESPN. His pod is so informative, he has great guest, really good regulars and just talk the game. He had Cam Johnson from the Nets on and they were talking about shooting and the mechanics, then went into how some guys like Ray Allen could come off picks in different ways. They broke it down and simplified it but also made you realize why they are able to do it and we can’t. Now I’ll be watching people’s foot settings coming off picks, were they able to square their shoulders going right or going left, just insane how much you learn.
I wonder if JJ is slowly and consciously taking down ESPN. Stephen A is vindictive, insecure, volatile, and ultimately no more knowledgeable than your average teenage sports fanatic. I would love to see Stephen A leave ESPN in disgrace, so I would encourage JJ to keep making him look stupid. Stephen A’s suit and TV persona don’t make home a role model. He is petty and slippery to a degree that makes Skip Bayless seem honest and honorable. JJ doesn’t have some secret code to outdebate Stephen A. He’s simply stating pretty well known facts about the history of the game.
@@catharticwicks I stopped watching First Take as soon as Skip left! I don’t like the way Skip handled things with Shannon, but people make mistakes. But what a lot of people don’t know is Skip left ESPN pissed off! All he wanted was Stephen A to show up more live and in person and on time. But Stephen A wanting to be at every big NBA game so he can suck up to all the big name stars, which was smart on his behalf because all those contacts landed him a huge deal while not even living up to his current contract. Which was like I said, to be back in time since the company was flying him private, to be on the set of First Take. Skip was showing up 5-6 in the morning coming up with all the talking points of the show and getting no help from Stephen A. and then they still give him a large contract? It’s actually sad because Stephen A will fully admit he wouldn’t have even got his chance if it wasn’t for Skip getting him his big shot on air. But first chance he got to take Skip down a peg, he jumped all over the Shannon Sharpe situation and got Shannon to go to ESPN because Stephen A knew the show was failing and people were turning on him the more they found out about what he did to Max!
@@edwardnigma4087 All Stephen A needed to say when questioned about Max’s departure was that he wanted to go in a different direction. That their working relationship had become contentious. Something like that. Instead, Stephen A described Max as boring and inexperienced in athletics and journalism. I watched Stephen A and Kendrick Perkins, in particular, treat Max like he was an idiot. I, like many others, respect Stephen A’s hustle. I don’t respect his knowledge of sports, nor his character. As a boy who loved football, basketball and baseball, I’ve listened to sports talks shows for a while. It’s a shame to see the kind of discourse that influences upcoming generations. It’s no exaggeration, kids learn and repeat what they hear, and in turn, show disrespect and bad sportsmanship toward one another. Troll culture is hilarious sometimes, but some of these hosts go out of their way to make unsubstantiated claims about a player’s character.
Actually, I think it's really interesting how when JJ contests Stephen A, he actually starts giving some more sensible conclusions. I don't always agree with everything he says and the points he's making, but his answers definitely get more clear and better, like JJ's forcing it out of him
When Stephen at the start says jimmy missed some too face on jj and pat 😂
Stephen A embarrassing himself in every take her lol
SAS swear he’s a basketball expert. I don’t gain anything from listening to him
You know SAS has a bad take when Pat Bev tilts his head
Why JJ even does First Take and works for these lame ESPN shows is beyond me. His podcast is great and his in-game commentary is great. Please don't stress yourself JJ.
This is what happens when you break someones argument down 😂 people on social media would fold lol
I love watching Stephen A get exposed over an over. JJ just destroys these horrible takes
I love how both of their faces changed to confusion at the same time when he said "he missed time so take that into consideration" 😂😂
You can just tell that way before he became an analyst JJ was a guy who hated people like Stephen A. Stephen A always surrounds himself with people who pander to him. His only response when he gets into trouble is to paraphrase what he said in a louder voice and JJ is always calm and eloquent and is never afraid to tell him that he hasn't got a clue what he's talking about 😂
lol just is not even on now because Stephen is jealous and does not want people smarter than him. He also is jealous about lebron take of jj
The 7:14 mark JJ made a good point Lebron came into da league at a whole different time MJ didn’t have to hear basketball media nor sports news talk on his game after a big lost where Lebron had to deal with that since his first nba game nd for the most part by the looks of his career accomplishments he exceeded those expectations many times so when you put it in that perspective ye Lebron deserves his respect 🤷🏾♂️
LMAO, yes, he did. The media was more cruel in Jordan's Era. And you didn't have social media to combat the narratives
@@sideshowbobsaget8876definitely wasnt. Mj and the entire bulls organization were protected from anything. All these gambling and going out before playoff games would be kept hidden from the media
Incorrect. Back then they used to talk so much shit on the newspaper or a television show and you rarely got a chance as a player to kill off false narratives.
@@sideshowbobsaget8876Jordan literally said himself he would not be able to survive social media today so why do you feel the need to lie
@@jasonoyola590 Yeah we're from that era so we also know those things came and went vs if something happens 5 minutes from now, it would flood the entire internet. So many things from that era most people can't remember and it could be things that were crazy like Charles Barkley spitting on a little girl, now imagine if KD, LeBron or someone from this era would've did the same thing😂What about Karl Malones past, look how it's somewhat under the radar, now if that was a player today, that's all they'd literally be associated with. Let's not pretend like social media and the current landscape of media isn't completely different today. It's better for players in terms of building a brand but worse in terms of easily hurting your brand. You have to take the good with the bad I guess.
Pat Bev and JJ were on the same page, they couldn’t believe what they were hearing😂
Stephen A basically said he’d rather have Luka in the clutch but yapped for like three minutes about Stephen Curry 😂 he’s such a clown and shows it every day
5:25 first actual good point I’ve seen Molly make
JJ has been an amazing analyst since he’s hung up the sneakers
SAS says its not always about numbers, except when he uses them to help his weak ass arguments
He’s a clown. He uses others names like Kareem to make his point seem valid. He uses numbers when it suits him then disregards them when it doesn’t. A broken clock is right twice a day and that’s Stephen a.
Strangely enough, the video ends with Stephen A agreeing with regards to PJ Tucker not being brought back. He's a good dude who is hiring these guys for entertainment purposes, keep that in mind.
JJ: gives logical, fact-based take
SAS: oh my god
i get really bad second hand embarrassment and this is a tough watch lmao
This man just said people fear MJ “not in a basketball way” like fear him as a man …. But they don’t fear LeBron… who’s physically bigger and stronger which would be more intimidating to the average Joe 😂😂😂🤦🏽♂️
Lebron is a big teddy bear to put it nicely dude
Golden St definitely feared him. Thats why they went and got KD.
Boston feared him. They got KG and Allen. Toronto feared him. He put them out the playoffs every year. If Lebron had a little help his first seven years in Cleveland the whole league would have feared him.
Stephen a saying everyone feared Mj is hilarious because he got punched by STEVE KERR of all people 😭😭😭
I like how the question is how clutch they are. JJ says Luka has made more game winning shots than Steph. But y’all say Steph more clutch? Wild. Then they only talk about how good of a shooter he is when that wasn’t the question.
welcome to talk shows my boy
pros at deferring the convo
Lol that fear thing, what is he talking about??🤣🤣🤣
That 2 piece kobe got was a low blow by JJ 🤣🤣
These two probably the last few sports media personalities I can listen to. I could hear them argue all day 😂
SAS just goes on vibes.
SAS be sounding so dam ridiculous most of the time😒
“There’s a lot to unpack there… I don’t know whether to believe that you believe what you’re saying.”
The brutal honesty is hilarious 😂
The MJ take after the Isaiah Stewart scuffle has to be one of the craziest takes I’ve ever heard lmao