How Micah Bell Tricked The Gang - RDR2
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- SPOILERS SPOILERS Micah Bell.. I thought he was going to be a friend at first. I think him and Arthur Morgan would get off to a rough start. That he was just being annoying at first. But I was wrong... terribly wrong. Micah Bell tricked the entire gang - but how? When exactly did Micah switch sides? How did he play Dutch? And what was his background that lead him to this point?
This video dives into the depths of what is known about Micah Bells behavior during Red Dead Redemption 2.
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The most complete theory is that Micah was likely tracking Dutch, hoping to capture/turn him in for a reward. This explains the bounty poster for £1000 you find at his camp near Strawberry. However, he then decided to seize an opportunity at the bar where Dutch was trying to sell gold, stepping in and ingratiating himself with Dutch, thinking he could use Dutch to make bigger scores or, if they went went sour, turn him in later. He was effectively hedging his bets from the outset - teaming up with the famous outlaw in the hopes of benefitting from big scores i.e. the Blackwater robbery, but always with an eye to betraying Dutch/the gang if it was possible later. When the Pinkertons picked him up following their return from Guarma, he was "turned" into an informant, but played both sides. Hence he encouraged Dutch to take bigger & bigger risks, hoping to either benefit from the one last heist at the end of the game, or planning on turning Dutch in, or both. A lot of his body language and behaviour as Arthur lay dying shows he was at that time literally trying to manipulate Dutch into going with him, in the direction of the Pinkertons just around the corner.
Oooh, i think you've cracked it. That lines up with his opportunist thought process. Also, lines up with Landon Ricketts saying "Keep hoping to both sides pf the fence, you'll get impaled on it."
This is probably the best theory on Micahs character I've ever seen, this should be gold standard!
What went wrong after Guarma? Nothing! The Pinkertons followed Arthur to the camp, because nobody told them where it was. Milton was lying.
You’re spot on except for Micah trying to lead Dutch to the Pinkertons, it’s safe to say by the time Milton died and the Pinkertons raided Beaver Hollow that Micah was no longer of use to them which is why they’re seen shooting at Micah and Micah is seen shooting at them. He’s trying to encourage Dutch to come with him because he still wanted to use him and if things calmed down later he would probably try to turn him in, but in that moment the Pinkertons were looking to drop any gang member including Micah
Also Micah dual wielding revolvers is symbolic of his dual nature. Whereas Arthur is typically seen holding a single revolver or shotgun which is symbolic of his more straightforward nature.
mind blown
@@PremoSaysThings shotgun literal
People hate Micah, and rightfully so, but you can’t say that he isn’t skilled. He’s a good gunslinger and has a sharp sense of intellect, but this is more of the cunning side. In “A short walk in a pretty town”, we can really see Micah’s shooting skills
No he isn’t skilled at all. The reason he always held two guns was because he’s a bad shot. He needs two guns because he’ll most likely miss firing his first shot.
He's erratic and he knows it, he justifies his actions, and has shallow empathy with not a hint of remorse. But he leaves Arthur to die in peace (if honorable), really an underrated character with a rotten role model; his father has the same exact name probably to highlight the effects of childhood modeling, his brother Angus chose to be better though. I believe that's why he let Arthur die in peace.
@@Bleeblooplu Seems like conformation bias and jumping to conclusions, I doubt you could ever operate two revolvers at once and still hit anything, I know I couldn't, that takes real skill.
@@Bleebloopluhe carries two guns because that was a fairly common thing to do. You don't shoot both at the same time you either empty one and switch or you alternate hands. It's not something an unskilled person could do
@21:38 is one of the most badass scenes of micah showing that skill. incredible. just not as good as arthur. its basically deadeye in real time
Micah Bell is arguably the smartest character in the Red Dead Redemption universe,
He managed to trick the world’s best conman into destroying his alliances, his gang, his son and his mind and then nearly got away with handing him over to the authorities afterwards
John is....he doesn't seem it but he knows the crack.
micah is so well written and acted that peter blomquist often doesn’t get clapped for when appearing on stage alongside other rdr2 actors. it’s very funny and a little sad
it honestly really sucks, Blomquist gave his life to that performance to create the most realistic piece of shit in modern media, even if the character deserves all the bad in the world, the actor needs to be revered. he's incredible
Fr people tend to hate micah so much they dont show appreciation to peter, I myself feel like Micah is over-hated, he is a great protagonist and aint as bad as many other Rockstar villains
Im gonna say this because no one else is Micah is a well written and good character
He reminds me of my uncle :)
He’s probably the best in gaming history
Everyone agrees his a good written character hint why everyone hates him
True. I used to mercilessly hate him but over time I learned to respect his character, after all he’s only been in the gang 6 months and never got along with anyone besides Dutch, anyone in his position would’ve either ran away or ratted, it’s not like Micah sought an alliance with the Pinkertons because Milton clearly states “We PICKED HIM UP and he’s been a good boy ever since” which implies Milton captured Micah and gave him a choice
He is a masterful antagonist, I do hate him but Inkinda love him
45:29 the fact that arthur was the first to draw is always so fire, especially considering he's severely sick
so true thanks for watching
I think Micah might be the most complex character after Arthur and Dutch. He is an outlaw. Outlaws aren't nice. Also, I think Micah was betraying Dutch while in Strawberry with the O'Driscolls. Or at the very least he was trying to switch sides in case the other guy got rescued first, then he killed him to prevent him from saying anything.
It's so easy to say Micah was a dumb but looking back really he was the true master manipulator
Micah lived by the mindset Dimitri have in gta iv
He may not be able to change the rules of the game, but he can pick the game
Micah was playing chess while everybody was playing checkers
He just kept asking dutch about money and talking trash to everyone. He only fooled dutch. Dutch, got dutch'd
He was never dumb people that hate him just say that but the reality is he’s one of the smarter characters. Not book smart like Lenny but he’s self aware and has more street smarts than most of the gang members. It takes a smart mind to be able to play a dangerous gang of outlaws and Pinkertons at the same time to benefit from both
My first playthrough I hated Micah, second playthrough I couldn’t get enough of him, it was impressive how good he was at a being a villian.
Micha is the type of guy to spend all of his points on skill and a very few on charisma
8 in skill 1 in charisma 0 on friendship 😢
There was at least 4 occasions where dutch could had elaberated a bit more in these scenarios to help these situations such as when they would rescue John, when he was asking who's betraying him and when Arthur insists on letting John and family go. Maybe that's the madness behind dutch
Can you elaborate on what 'alaberated' means?
@@wyomingptt what do you mean sir?
this came up on my fyp just as i finished another replay of rdr2, perfect timing! thanks for the deep dive into micah, he's such a well written antagonist and i love questioning his motives and diving into just how long he's been a rat and what he intentions with dutch were! i personally think he was always a rat, just not specifcally to the pinkertons until the end-- like, i fully believe he was always going to betray dutch someday, but given his opportunistic + survive at all costs nature, he had to wait for the day that a better prospect came along first so that he could reap the most benefit before moving on. loved the video!
what a wonderful comment! thank you so much. hope you had an amazing playthrough of rdr2!
Deep down, i sort of think he was always the rat in some odd ways as well. glad to see others think that. again great comment glad you liked the video
24:30 dude micah WAS in that cutscene. he gets an entire closeup and he’s in the shot with Pearson, Sadie, and Bill. in fact, you can clearly see the big ass gap where he was SUPPOSED to be😭😭😭 idk if you modded him out just to make your point or what, but that whole point is invalid
edit: im watching the scene , he even draws his pistols when the rest of the gang draws their weapons
ANOTHER EDIT: neither Lenny, Bill, Javier, Tilly, Trelawney, nor Uncle appear in the o’driscoll attack mission either. i think that’s just coincidence that Micah didn’t
thats wild! I even browsed the subreddit on if micah was in that scene and multiple people said he wasnt - so i went off the information i had. thats so weird. and true i knew that a couple people were missing from odriscall attack mission and i should have said that in the video
thank you for the comment 🫡
Sometimes he appears in that cutscene and sometimes he doesn’t, it’s pretty weird because I also distinctly remember him being in that cutscene but when I watch playthroughs he’s not there for some of them. Idk if it’s honor dependent or if one of the updates took Micah out of that scene but it seems to be a 50/50 chance of him being there or not. Also ur right about the Odriscoll attack at camp, half the gang members aren’t even present in that mission most likely they all happened to be doing their own thing finding leads or getting scores for the group, in lore the gang members don’t just sit around camp all day every day they all go out like Arthur but in gameplay they’re always at camp so Arthur can interact with them
He did draw a gun, on my third playthrough I was checking
@@PremoSaysThingsits on the last scene, when agent milton is about to leave
@@PremoSaysThings all good man, i was just curious why he was modded out of the cutscene 😭
24:54 in my game, Micah is literally standing next to Sadie and Pearson the whole time. Idk how you or the other content creator (forgot his name) edited him out your clip, but he is in that clip in the original version
thats wild. i even scoured the internet on information about this scene and every bit of information including reddit posts says he wasnt there as well, so i was going off that information and my own experience.
you and a few others have commented this, perplexing.
The Guarma section is the definition of a Liminal Space, and I love it for that
guarma felt like a different game lowkey i liked it but fr
13:00 Norman was not an O’Driscoll. He was a former outlaw who used to run with Micah.
Class video mate, the production quality you give us deserves recognition keep up the grind and you'll deffo blow up lad love ya videos!
thank you!
0:40 no fucking way it's Flowey the flower
😭
I'm so fucking confused
@@MrBeenus okay so in Undertale, there's this character named Flowey, and he believes that it's kill or be killed. Really awesome game, you should totally play it.
Micah is a very well written antagonist and what's amazing that he aint the worst in the Rockstar rogue of villains, he is smart and he is skilled and can be a badass, people hate micah more than they should, good video man
When people say they hate the man because he one of the greatest villains in gaming history
Rockstar should make a movie on this video game. I bet it gonna be one of the best movies
My dog, you are working with Micah.
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The thing that makes Micah stand out from the other gang members in the game is he's always one step ahead of everybody. While guys like Arthur, John, Sean, Lenny, etc. are all followers of Dutch's idea that they're heroes, Micah knows it's all crap and is only there to leech off others. This knowledge of Dutch's true intentions is why he can bully, rob, and lie to everyone but still stay on good terms with Dutch. Because Micah knows how to rig the system in his favor, so he does it.
I'd recommend leaving credit to the original creators for the footage
Wdym?
@SomeBODYwhoudontknow
I saw clips from Petko and Sounds Like Pizza. There is no credit for any of the creators. It's a common issue in the RDR community, mainly with the shorts creators
These are all cutscenes aren’t they? Or did I miss something? No one needs to be credited for anything since they are cutscenes straight from the game
I love that in this video that Arthur is it like his default clothes I like Arthurs normal like clothes first time I played rdr2 I just left Arthurs clothes that way cause I liked it that way.
42:18!! And for that reason, I believe that's why the final mission as Arthur is titled "Red Dead Redemption!" Rockstar is GENIUS 💪💪
Interesting facts Thanks Cowpoke 🍻🤠
Bill will never escape those gay allegations
Honestly, I hadn't really remembered that Micah saved Dutch's life when they first met. It mostly makes some sense now... That Dutch would side with Micah at the end of the game. It was so unlike Dutch to have someone actually save his life and he never forgot about that. He probably admired Micah more than most of the gang, as crazy as that sounds. And maybe him siding with Micah was his way of "owing him "
Reverand swanson saved Dutch's life too ,thats why they kept him although he was a drunken mess
I enjoyed your analysis.
i enjoyed your comment
Great video! 👍👍
i'm still trying too figure out whos the rat before gurama is' and i dont think its abigail or molly'and doing the battle for shady belle' i think micah was with the pinkertons doing that time.
during the making of this video i deep dived into what was going on and there were a lot of times I thought i was wrong on the details, so i went back again and again.
but its just super hard to figure out what exactly is happening. there are so many coincidences and mishaps, rockstar really created a mystery with the whole thing
@@PremoSaysThings why would a man, in any western film or novel, carry a Wanted poster of somebody that he was *not* looking to kill or capture? It's always been a plot device to make the viewer or reader see motive. I see nothing that suggest Rockstar deviates from this. Making it obvious and actually easy to find (if you are suspicious of Micah and look) is the thing Rockstar does to create doubt..
But you can see Micah in 3 sense when the Pinkertons arrive in one is even holding both his guns
And for the life of me I don't know why Arthur Morgan didn't shoot Micah in strawberry after he killed Maddie. That would have been the perfect time to cut him loose. Could have told Dutch you got killed in a crossfire when he went crazy over his guns
I'd hardly say he tricked the gang, nobody even liked him besides Dutch
And that was enough, he controlled the queen in the chess board
NOT THE UNDERTALE SOUND AFFECTTTTT
lol what! where?
@@PremoSaysThings "its either kill or be killed"
Wish we had any kind of single player DLC with as great writing as the story
say it "Ay-muss" not "Ay-mowce"
Good vid
I’d like a rdr game where I can play as him
what mods do you need to change gang members outfit's, like dutch wearing chapter 1 outfit while in chapter 3
i love micah bell anaylsis videos hes such an interesting antagonist too me
My name is Larry Premo Seaman II lol
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Guy literally only tricked dutch though
He made sense in a lot of ways. For the situation, being as wanted as Dutch was and Arthur Morgan in the whole band. Dutch really should have trimmed the fat and turn the week loose, it ultimately would have been better for everyone. Life ain't easy on the run.
w video as always
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