This was genuinely terrifying. Not because it was scary towards me, but just horrifying for the daughter. I never thought I would get immersed to the point that I feel fear/dread for another character in a horror game.
Honestly, every word that either parent spoke made me feel like I was being slowly burned just as much as the daughter. Especially the end, the smell must be horrible.
@@БогданКрименюк you did? Max i experienced was when my grandma died but its not like she was decomposing she was just ... Just dead but didn't smell or anything. And like we slept there 2 nights and she was in her bed in the room next to ours. It was like she was sleeping so i also didnt wanna "say goodbye" by touching her hand cause you know. I hate how cold dead ppl are fr. I get thats kinda a tradition here to touch your loved one corpse but i mean whats the point its just like whiplash of 'remember u grandma dead and she isnt sleeping at all!!! Touch her and see how cold she is!!!" No thanks🙂
Actually hate the father so much. Literally 5 seconds after killing his son hes already like "ugh, what if the neighbours saw me commit vehicular manslaughter that would be so embarassing🙄 gotta get rid of the body or whatever😒"
Yeah. Like, mom is clearly the insane one from the getgo, but its a fractured mental state sort of insanity. Dad just clearly didnt care about his children beyond what they did for his image. And it scarily reminds me of more than one real world parent/grandparent hiding deaths for the sake of keeping up appearances.
@@redblade5556 they mention them being a nuclear family so it's probably the US. It also mentions "the estate" and that they have a large pumpkin patch in the back and if you look at the background of the family scenes they are probably upper middle to rich. Due to the worry about their reputation they are probably very well respected.
When the dad said “let’s get him inside before the neighbors come” my first thought was that he didn’t want to shock anyone with the traumatizing sight of a dead kid with a squashed head, which would be a 100% valid concern... but, the truth is always disappointing.
I feel so bad for the daughter. She’s forever traumatized by this experience and pumpkins. I bet every Fall and October would be torture for her with Halloween. I’d join the nuns in the convent after that experience.
We know one thing...Her mother is going to die alone in that institution cuz her daughter will never visit her. The mother now knows what its like to be locked away with no one taking her seriously like she did to her daughter.
Police officer: we have a bad smell complain and your son is missing from school Mother: raccons and flys Police officer: *understandable, have a nice day*
More like... Mom: Oooh Raccons and flies, plus my husband is never home. Police: Oh nooo! Well you have a good day, sorry to bother you single mom. 😆😆😆😆😆😆
To be fair, that shit happens all the time in real life. Cops literally have handed back victims to serial killers because they didnt care enough to investigate or thought it was too awkward (i.e. in the case of Jeffrey Dhamer, where the kid was fucking naked on the street with extremely concerning Injuries with three witnesses begging the cops to investigate it further.) Cops will sometimes only check a room or two if there's a smell complaint, as the smell or rot is just so much they don't want to be there any longer than they deem necessary.
@@strav8337 domestic violence victims, as well as abused children, are handed back to their spouses and families without much investigation if police are called instead of cps. If the person is disabled and/ or mentally ill, their rarely taken seriously when they accuse the abusers, and this can lead to their death either by malicious intent or negligence. I just used the most graphic example to make the clearest of points in the original comment though, but I do apologize for using the blatant rarer case comment rather than focusing on more common circumstances, as it seemed to fit better with the videos content but may have skewed the readers idea of frequency and dramatic visuals of it all. Hell, I even forgot here to mention abuse of elderly family members, which is completely hidden as they have extewmely few external social ties to check on them. It's always seen as better to let a person be mildly abused by their own family better than to be removed and become a burden on the state, but the courts tend to be overly lenient as they don't have the resources to really see just how bad the abuse is most of the time. I actually considered joining a social work field in order to try to combat these issues, but it's easier said than done even with related education. I hope you have a good day though, and again my apologies for my misphrasing, I should have rephrased it from all the time to " it does happen " to avoid confusion.
@@riciirizaldii8811 for me his monotone voice really does a lot to sell his humour because you always get caught off guard when he does make a joke XD Also I'm assuming/hoping the person above knows me from hermitcraft videos because I comment a lot there (￣∇￣)
Honestly my favorite part of this horror game is how believable it is. A mother who loved her son so much and just couldn't accept his death, now forcing her family to live with his rotten corpse and act as if he was still alive. That's something you find on the news or on a true crime podcast, and it terrifies me
It's both terrifying and sad. I feel bad for her in a way, but ultimately i blame the father for all of this. If he wasn't so selfish at the beginning when he hit his son. The mother even wanted to bring him to the hospital but the father refused
I don't think I've ever seen devs put "hey this would be a cool movie, call us!" in their game but honestly? I agree, this would be a sick exploitation horror as they said. I hope they do get taken up on that offer.
even more messed up is that i think the mother could’ve turned out relatively okay following plenty of therapy and close mental health monitoring/support, IF the husband hadn’t so selfishly immediately thought of how running over his son would affect his “image” and instead called the police/ambulance right away. the mother even wanted to take her son to the hospital, but the father insisted it remained a secret. i wholeheartedly believe that had she not been left alone for 25 days stewing in her own illusions to cope with the mental trauma, she could’ve had a chance at normalcy again and grieving in a healthier way. the true victim here though is, of course, the daughter. the trauma she was put through… man… not to mention she lowkey blames herself because they were apparently playing in the driveway… so fucked up
This actually reminds me of the horror film Hereditary, in a way (SPOILERS) In the movie, the daughter character gets decapitated in a freak car accident, and her older brother just drives home in shock and leaves her body in the car for his mom to find. Shock is a helluva drug and can lead to irrational decisions.
oh absolutely, shock is something a lot of people don’t realize how powerful it is until they experience it first hand (if they’re ever unfortunate enough to do so). granted its hard to imagine yourself doing something like you mentioned or like from the gameplay while in your right mind- but when youre in a state of shock its a whole other ballgame lol
Rehab? Ya no not for a mental break at that level.. The police would have treated that as manslaughter and conspiracy, especially with the timeline of the scenes 1950-1960 the asylum would have been her fate.. There was no mental return for the mother, when she was like "lets put a pumpkin on it and have dinner". The mother was Gone by that point with only her favoritism taking over brooding a delusion; she broke into fragments based on the episodic schizophrenia that got worse, and her parental instincts were all that was left of her. (Really well researched I might add) The only sane one was the one with faith and willpower, the mother and father were much like the brother, dead inside.. So no.. The father & daughter could have received treatment and rehab for PTSD, but as soon as the mother came to terms with the reality of the car crushing her sons head like a described pumpkin, she was already self destructed and was lost..
@@sown-laughter4351 i disagree. mental health treatment following a traumatic event immediately makes the likelihood of general recovery much higher. ofc, when i say general recovery, im in no way implying she would simply be walking away as if nothing happened and everything was all rainbows and roses. she would have had lifelong mental health care and therapy. i do acknowledge that there was awful practices that were popular at the time, specifically electroshock therapy, but when i wrote my initial comment it was within the grounds of the death being acknowledged and taken care of immediately. shock can happen to anyone and everyone, and how someone reacts to a state of shock either amplifies or dampens the next course of action that the brain takes as a means to protect itself. assuming that her mental health before this was relatively standard, the shock is what drove her to the psychiatric break, and it not being acknowledged properly by the only other adult/comprehensively grown individual most definitely played a big part in those delusions coming to fruition. so when i look at this, if she hadnt been allowed to keep her sons body around, if the proper measures were taken to confirm in her brain that this was real and it really did happen (ie - calling police so other adults can confirm the death, having a hospital confirm the death, holding a funeral to acknowledge the sons passing) i truly do think she wouldn’t have gotten to the point she did in game. again, never the same as she was prior to the accident, but much better off than sweeping it under the rug and the people around you pretending it was okay. besides, her brain already subconsciously acknowledged he was dead by making up so many excuses so people wouldnt ask questions. but she couldn’t accept the reality because the husband let it distort to try and find a way to bypass responsibility. as far as the law goes im not too savvy with what it would have been like in the 1950’s but i’d assume the father would be the one at fault for driving, not the passenger (unless it was premeditated)?
@@Casandraelf The way you said father's ability to stand up rubbed me the wrong way. He was clearly portrayed as sexist and selfish, his standing up wasn't standing up.
@@bloddrinkeraka I agree he definitely was sexist or so the story take place in a time it was normalized to them. But standing up for his daughter and himself could of saved them either way
Mother: "I keep replacing the pumkin but he doesn't get any better. What if we replaced the body?" Me and manly at the same time: What!? God too: What!?
When she said that, I initially breathed a sigh of relief thinking that she'd replace it with something inorganic like a wooden doll, so even if her craziness didn't stop at least it wouldn't be a rotting corpse... and then she mentioned the neighbor's son and I had to join in on the "What!?"
“Pass the salt to your brother, he looks like he needs some.” Could this be referring to using salt to preserve bodies, such as in Egypt with the mummies?
I.. Know someone who's had an experiance like this. A cousin, her son died of cot-death (still a baby), but she kept his body around. Dressed it, posted pictures of it on facebook.. Stuff like this does happen, it's pretty unsettling
somehow i just could not stop feeling bad for the son throughout the entire gameplay. homie couldn't even have a peaceful funeral after getting his brains blown on the sidewalk
Best part is the creator popped in to this very comment section to confirm they learned about the stages of decomposition as a Pre-Med student and that's what inspired them to make it.
Imagine being a teacher that thought a girl tried to prank her about her brother’s corpse and after her mother personally took her from school…she’s never to be seen again.
You'd think after one child not being seen for a month bc of "measles" and their sibling saying there's a corpse in the house and coming to school with an awful smell, they'd do a welfare check.
@@Reshme77 Well if the media caught this and the school’s reputation is at stake because a teacher ignore one of the student…Obviously they will care even if somehow they don’t feel remorse and regret
@@Reshme77 Administration may not, but some teachers care quite a lot and are mandatory child abuse/neglect reporters besides. Granted, that's modern day logic and laws and not whenever the game takes place. I also think I'm listening to too many child abuse case crime podcasts...
I really like this kind of horror. The author doesn't have to come up with a supernatural or scifi plot to make the story scary. The horror of nature is relatable right off the bat and in my opinion hasn't been explored that much. Props to the team that did their research seriously, it even made me pause this vid to look up the process of decomposition. Human body is both beautiful and disgusting.
@@gbioabngd About decomposition then. Not a lot of games show decomposition of corpses for you to see. Other than RE7 I don't really know if there's anything that plays to the topic of rotting humans.
26:23 still wondering which will fall apart first, the body or the pumpkin. I think it will be tremendously horrid if the pumpkin falls away, revealing a head that is not only crushed and rotting, but also crammed full of the food the mother has been forcing into it.
The body almost certainly falls apart first, assuming the pumpkin isn't messed with too much. Pumpkins are pretty structurally sound, and if the worst thing eating it is microbes and flies, it'd last a lot longer
@@chaincat33 Do you think the same applies to a hollowed out pumpkin with an entire rotting head with congealed blood and all that _and_ maggot infested rotting food? It must be moldy on the inside.
I have owned pumpkins that lasted over a year uncarved, the pumpkin here would prob only last a day mold gets it quick when carved and it starts rotting after a few days even if you clean the mold off, now thats in a kitchen at room temp untouched, this is on a broken smashed in head and the body its on is constantly moved
Game devs did everyone a service by not giving the son a face with his body. Can you imagine the horror of watching a complete body decay. Easier to detach oneself from the reality or imagery of a rotting corpse when it doesn’t have a head. Maybe that’s why the mom was able to still believe her son was still alive so easily.
The mother's psyche broke the moment her son died (not that she had any mental fortitude to begin with, as is obvious). But that last event broke her and it's clear that this isn't the first time she blatantly denies reality.
the poor children. the son's body was disrespected so much, another kid was dragged into their mess, and gloria was traumatized beyond belief. this story is so messed, and the game is exceptional. i hope the devs will make another one T^T
I thought it was so sweet how the little girl, despite being grossed out and horrified by the state of her dead brother, still missed him and he came back from the grave to warn her to run
It's so wack to think that all of this could've been avoided if the father called the police right then and there when the accident happened. Like even if you can tell your wife is going coo coo for co co puffs, he should've "called the hospital". There really is a lot of people who pride themselves in appearance and truly end up hurting their children by trying to seem "respectful". Not even in such extreme cases. I like this story as a literally gruesome horror bit but also as a symbolic causionary tale of people putting their pride over their children's well being. CRAZY COOL
To be fair. He was probably in shock when he said that. People don't really think clearly when that happens. Though later on he should have called the police. He seemed sane enough to recognize the situation.
I don't think it was pride. It's revealed the son died when the father drove over his head, meaning he'd be culpable for his sons death. If reported, he would be likely to face significant jail time. This would explain his own solution to bury the body in the pumpkin patch and never speak of it again, he was trying to hide the evidence of the child's death in a place wear decomposition would occur faster and render it harder for any future investigation to pin the blame on him.
@@theirDevil oh absolutely, but in the very beginning of the game the narrator points out that one of the most important things to them is their appearances. Or something on that vein. I'm paraphrasing. I absolutely see what you mean tho! I think their actions can be interpreted in many number of ways.
This one is horribly accurate, not only medically but in the way the daughter responds emotionally, seeing her brother as an 'it' because the body looks uncanny. I've unfortunately been around a deceased person for a few hours after the passing and this game really captured the sobering reality of it, amazing game but holy shit.
yeah, not a person but I saw my dog die in my arms. his eyes just became lifeless and it wasn't him anymore. I held the body for a while, but I could not feel him there anymore. awful
@@av3ngers17 same. I also held my dog while he was dying and then he died after a few minutes i let go of him, but it was really sad for me since i was a kid back then when he died. :(
My dog died around a week ago. Seeing his dead body was sad enough, his tongue turned yellow and he kept twitching. I cant imagine being around an already decayed one. Rest in peace, Jackie.
I’m currently teaching at an English kindergarten in Korea. One of my students recently described the plot of this game to me in surprisingly lucid English (especially considering she’s only 6 years old) but she didn’t really clarify where she got the story from. I was very surprised to see that this is a real thing, right in my UA-cam recommendations. I pray her mother restricts her internet access 💀
I volunteered at an elementary school once and was helping in the art room when a class of first or second graders came in (6-8 years old). One began talking about FNAF, so we began chatting about video games in general, and one little boy said he liked playing Outlast. Not even watching a playthrough, actually playing the game.
kids are weirdly attracted to horror and it's both funny and concerning. like I believe if they're not affected by it badly then go ahead, I used to be obsessed with dark folklore as a kid and would look up monsters who flayed humans and ate their intenstines. but if it gets to the point they're developing bad phobias or it's affecting their mental health, then yeah you need to step in.
@@sadrabbit53 oh god yes, I used to read pretty depressing horror stories when I was a kid just because it was so fascinating to me and I was obsessed with folklore/monsters. It hasn't turned me into a serial killer or anything but in retrospect, _jesus christ_ 😂💀
Hello, I am thugzilla, the writer of Pumpkin Eater! Thank you and everyone for your kind comments! I'm a premed student in college, so Pumpkin Eater was a way to show off my weird knowledge. This was the first horror game I've written, and hopefully not the last. I hope you all enjoyed reading it as I did writing it! :D
@@lifesucks3514 I am! My main project is a dark comedy visual novel called Object Ward, but I do like to work on other things from time to time. I have a horror game planned for next summer, also as medically accurate as possible. Can't say too much about it, but will definitely have that thugzilla-approved disturbing factor :)
This is one of those horror games I constantly look up to see who was playing, in order to watch their reactions. Because it really does stir up strong reactions. I hope to see people start sharing this left and right for the sake of reactions. A lot of horror games are spread around streamers like this and this is short and small enough to reach others quickly. I hope more streams and people with following bring this to a critical mass where it becomes some manner of rite of passage among horror streamers. Because what it does to people is very different from other games. It's not terror - fear and unease over some perceived danger. It is true horror - revulsion and disturbing feelings that continue to haunt after the experience. It is heavy and begets introspection and emotional processing after the fact. And it's worth watching how the many people deal with it!
So from a medical perspective, it's quite fantastic how accurate they were with the stages/progression of decomposition. Very good attention to detail w/ the rigor mortis setting in and then passing in an accurate timeframe. The only issue I've seen: the daughter says kids at school noticed she smelled bad. That probably isn't going to happen though. The odor will heavily permeate the area and anything in direct contact with the source of the odor, but nothing further. It is very common for the odor to become universal when exposed for any decent amount of time, however. So if you spend 2 hours in the room/house of a body with advanced decomposition, after exiting, you will not smell like the body did. Your clothes won't. In fact, objects taken from the house generally won't either. But when you smell those items yourself, it will smell like the advanced decomposition. When you put a piece of fabric/clothing to your nose and inhale deeply, it will smell like the body. Open a jug of milk, and smell it. Smells like rot. This goes away after a while, but again, the odor isn't there. It's really just in your head, or the scent is trapped in your nostrils.
Good point but I think towards the end it was in her head including the smell and buzzing. I think she needed therapy for what happened. Being forced to take care of her brothers dead body, plus the story spreading pretty quickly, the kids were just being mean and not truly understanding what happened to her. Mainly because children don't learn about death until their much older plus her mind forcing her to continue smelling the odor. Her mother made her feel like the brothers death was her fault not accepting the husband did it. Even tho "the brother forgave her". The phantom smell is her guilt about letting all this happen to her brother. Being forced to be the adult while the mother played house and the father, drank and cheated the guilt away believing it was the daughters fault to. A brilliant story but creepy at the same time for being so accurate.
Honestly it wouldn't shock me if the kids were being cruel, kids, especially young ones can be really fucked up when it comes to the kind of insults they do, once they saw she scrubbed a lot they started picking at it, pretty common in a sad way.
Something that might transfer the smell is that she slept in the same room her brother’s body was kept in, not just for two hours but for extended periods daily, and I can also see the mother interacting with the body and then with clean clothes because she deludes herself that her rotting son’s body isn’t slimy and gross, so then the girl’s clothes become dirty with rancid body fluids. She would then be expected to wear them because to the mother they’re perfectly clean. Of course, part of it is probably the psychological thing too.
@Ark7 Would bacteria from the body merge with living body flora since she's been staying in the same room as him every day? It's been a super long time for me, but my microbiology prof talked about how a man suddenly became smelly after cutting up a chicken but was healthy and in the end it was due to the bacteria living in his skin flora, or something to that extent. Edit: After a brief search, I came across that study: "A man who pricked his finger and smelled putrid for 5 years" published 1996. I think it's very much possible that odor-causing bacteria had penetrated Gloria's natural body flora similar to this case, but different in that she was in constant contact with the body.
this game is equal parts horrfying and sad - it shows how one small, simple accident can tear a family part with grief, and madness. the madness in the mother is just .. horrible. and the fact it would happen to anyone, anywhere is just so chilling
@@coledibiase1777 and @Storm Mist don't think you understood my meaning - it was small and simple by nature, as it could happen to anyone, not to undermine the severity of the accident, but in the grand scheme of things it was a simple accident - they didn't mean or plan to run their kid over (obviously) , but it was simply the kid being in the wrong place at the wrong time - hence my meaning by small and simple. obviously the trauma and the mental trauma are anything but, - the action itself , however was simple.
@@coledibiase1777 Still happens, and commonly unfortunately. People don't pay attention enough and even then, sometimes it still just happens. My brother watched his friend almost get ran over. Thankfully he was just grazed, but was traumatizing for all parties involved.
@@abigailfowler1843 That's why there shouldn't be so many cars, but GM lobbied the government so fucking hard that things like subways, railroads, sidewalks and trolleys (some of the safest modes if transportation) were completely disregard because a few asshats were like "No, CARS, are the future, disregard how dangerous, economically unsustainable, environmental shortsighted, and stupid they are." Cars are cool, but stupid.
The poor daughter. In the ending, the sight of a pumpkin treat--let alone one with bugs near it--likely reminded her of her trauma. PTSD is a nasty thing.
This game gives me chills, it's so realistic and captures human mentality so well it's horrifying. And, wonderful voice acting! You're very good at expressing fear while maintaining a passive voice.
Oof, this game is a hard one to swallow. Not just because of the medical accuracy (which is great, don’t get me wrong), but just the idea that all of this happened not because of a crazed serial killer, or a ghost killing the living, but because of a simple mistake that could happen to anyone in real life. And just the way that both the mother and father just… fell apart so quickly. It feels so realistic that it honestly makes me sick to the stomach. Kudos to the creators of the game, and kudos to Manly for the excellent reading! Edit: Jesus Christ, my first comment to get over 1k likes and it’s just me word vomiting for a whole paragraph lmao
@@accelerator7952 This is not the same. Combat games doesn't give you an unpleasant feeling because it's not about making you uncomfortable it's about making it brutal which you can find uncomfortable but it's more about action and for gore fans. And his body rotting is not really about making it gore it's about showing us this unpleasant process. And with this old drawing style and this unpleasant feeling it gives you old messed up stories vibes like the Struwwelpeter stories.
@@accelerator7952 what a weird ass comparison. mortal kombats gore is about being as brutal as possible, this games gore is about making you as uncomfortable as possible. its not comparable whatsoever
Poor Gloria. I both understand and don't understand why the father didn't just take the daughter and flee. Overall, I did enjoy the story and Manly's voice acting.
I think the mother broke him down mentally as time went on, coupled with his pride as a man being shattered and most likely his guilt over what he did to his son, all contributed to him basically becoming a zombie who was completely bound to the mother’s will.
He totally enables the mom. Like at any point during his bar adventures, he could've gotten away and idk told police? Like I'd be afraid to leave the girl with the mom while doing that, but he was doing that anyway so...
@Oren Black folks up here demonstrating why the father did nothing wrong up until day 10 or so, man was threatened at knifepoint and he is still considered by the comment section not only a murderer but also responsible for the abuse at home. no wonder his first reaction was not to call the police, as evidently there was no chance of anything but a public lynching. what, was he supposed to beat his wife (not some stranger, but a person he is spending his life with) to death with a shovel? drag his daughter out, not getting stabbed in the process and inevitably be blamed for the whole ordeal and get punished as a kidnapper and a murderer (as the mother demonstrated on day 5, she was more than willing to call the accident a deliberate murder) to inevitably have the child returned to her mother and himself to the electric chair?
This game's art style really contributed to the eerie and fearful emotions of the daughter, showing her crumbling slowly, but still having the determination to somehow end the madness she is in. It also portrayed the grief of the mother turned to insanity so well, i feel this game is really well done
its honestly really gorgeous, as a visual artist it's genuinely really well done (despite what I know many would think of it at first blush, there's a lot of skill evident here)
personally i think that the mother’s grief almost immediately turned to insanity, or that she was already insane in some way because once the son died she almost immediately (after asking to take him to a hospital and such) tried to replace his head with a pumpkin. although i do agree that she sinks deeper and deeper into the insanity as the story progresses.
As a forensics student I feel so bad for finding some humor in this. It just reminds me of this morbidly funny story from back when we were watching the decomposition process of donated bodies. **WARNING TO ANYONE WHO MIGHT BE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH REAL SITUATIONS INVOLVING DECOMPOSITION**: So basically we were in groups learning about how various factors such as heat, cold, proximity to water, etc. affected human decomposition. We each were given the opportunity to learn from donated bodies, which we treated with a great deal of respect. We'd go out to see the body, make detailed observations, check a night camera to see if there were any significant events that happened that may have affected the process, and then after writing down notes we'd put this dome cage over the body so that the body wouldn't be messed with by animals. The body I was observing was in a pretty cold area so the decomposition rate was going to be slower than others. On the second or third day that I went to go visit the body I noticed that the guy had his elbow bent with his middle finger stuck out. I couldn't touch the body or anything so I just took pictures laughing at the ridiculous pose then left putting the cage back on. Next time I went to see him this time he had BOTH middle fingers up. Had to take pictures of it again and let me tell you it's pretty difficult to say that a dead guy was giving me the double-bird in scientific terms. Ended up checking the camera at the end of the week and realized what was going on; there was a raccoon that had been screwing around with the body for days. Probably trying to eat the fingers, he was just reaching through the tiny holes of the cage we had and messing with the fingers, hands, and arms. Thanks to him I have a whole paper written where a dead guy is constantly flipping me off.
@@hololiveenjoyer5655 Not really, it was less of a publishable thing because of so many sources of error but it was still in good fun. For a good year my cohorts and I would flip each other off when we saw each other.
I have to ask, are you allowed to take photos of a dead body? idk why but if someone close to me died and someone was taking photos of their body with their middle fingers up that would feel kind of weird of me 🤷♀️
Let me just say that I am so glad the daughter was able to escape. You see endings in horror stories the hero or one of the hero’s doesn’t escape but this one had me at the edge of seat really hoping she’d get out of there. Truly a horrific fate worse than death.
I thought the dad was more horrible than the mother. The mother mightve been a nut job, but he was a scum and a coward that went along with his wife's misdeeds
There's an amazing horror novel called "Room", written from the perspective of a 5 year old boy in a _horrific_ captive situation with his mother. That's another very disturbing horror with purely human elements.
this game didn't upset me with the body horror stuff. It was the way the daughter had been treated and how she handled the situation. Obviously the body horror doesn't apply but I've been in an abusive household. And a lot of the daughter's reactions to the abuse and how she handled it or shut down is very relatable for me. The person who wrote the story for this didn't only do a great job with the body horror and that aspect, but did a phenomenal job with the daughters reactions to changes in her mother and father and everything that happened. awesome visual novel.
Are you doing OK, my bro? I hope you got the support you deserve now! Nobody deserve to go through abuse and in a home you are supposed to feel safe in? That's terrifying. I really hope you are safe now
@@vienna-mf8xb I was rescued by my grandparents in 2013. I've been great ever since.I probably wouldn't be in the situation I'm in if it wasn't for them. But the stuff I went through probably won't ever leave me. It doesn't really matter to me as much now though. It's in the past and I don't let it get in the way of what I have to do in the present. Thanks for asking though I really appreciate that. It made my day. Hope you have a good one. And to anyone who reads this. If you fight long enough and hard enough, eventually something will be done. It may be hard now, and it might feel like nothing ever will happen. It will. You just have to believe in your own strength (and if you believe like I do trust in God or whatever religious figure you worship) and you'll make it out. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
@@michaelhunt6920 that's not always true, unfortunately. I was trapped until mine died. I only say this so that anyone who reads this won't blame themselves if nobody ever helps them, you know?
I felt bad for the kids. The son died & instead of being buried he was made into a doll for the mom to cope, the daughter had to suffer days with two delusional parents & the rotting corpse of her brother, & the random kid that got murdered to be a replacement for the dead son. The daughter is now living as an orphan with severe trauma all because her parents couldn't act rationally.
@@tanucreate More likely her survival instinct kicking in. She needed some closure to flee, and her mind gave it to her. The game tries to feel as real as posible, psychology can explain that.
This was actually horrifying, not because of the art, but because of the story. Read some time ago in the newspaper that the police found a dead body at the kitchentable while the brother lived there the last 3 weeks or so. The neighbors called the police also because of the smell.
Honestly I think she got just about the best ending she possibly could have, without her parents themselves doing something differently. At the very least, she’s alive and out of the situation that was causing her so much agony, even if the wounds from that situation will probably never heal.
28:00 I know it's a horror trope to not listen to the kid. But depending on the day and age that the story is set in, this is very much possible since children where still relatively seen and not heard.
The horror is real and alive today, where plenty of kids report abuse to numerous parties and still don't get on authorities' radars until they're dead
I just wonder how the father couldn’t see his son in the goddamn driveway, it’s not exactly hard to miss unless he was either drunk or he’s just unbelievably careless.
Well, that was deeply disturbing. Who needs a slasher killer or a big monster when you've got familial love and the power of deniable coming together to form a miserable circumstance that just gets worse with each passing day. The medical accuracy definitely adds to the disgust factor, but it's the mother's shattered sanity that brings out the real horror.
Spoiler alert, watch the video first Damn, this was actually really good! I didn't expect the "let's kill another child" Plot twist. And I actually got excited when the son told her to run, as I see it, it wasn't something supernatural, more like she desperately trying to convince herself to do it. Really good honestly, didn't expect the plot twists.
Was expecting this to be a wholesome video of a child who had a rotting pumpkin for a head but was still alive and still got love. NOT WHAT I GOT AT ALL
I expected something like that. Not the "wholesome" part, and not the "and still got love" part, but that it would be about a living guy with a pumpkin for a head. My expectations were like the Wizard of Oz character "Jack" who first shows up in the 2nd book.
Fascinating. Disturbing, but fascinating. The medical accuracy of a decaying corpse combined with the psychosis of the mother makes for a great story. The father just wanted everything 'to go back to normal' and decides to 'just go with it' until the mother 'snaps out of it' and never dose. In the end, I think it's a tale of the refusal of owning up to what happened. Not really a game, but a really good story.
Yeah, I wouldn't really call visual novels games, but I don't know what else they could be classified as. I think they're just a little too niche to be considered their own thing.
@@SeymourDisapproves Visual novels are visual novels. We dont call Movies multiple pictures with Sound playing along. We dont call books paintings of Symbols that have a distinct meaning to us. And we dont call visual novels Text with pictures and Sound.
At about 49:55 Manly says "...I'm not gonna bother reading this, just gonna scroll slowly through it. If you find anything interesting, you're welcome to just pause the video." This right here is *exactly* why he's the only person on youtube I trust to handle games like this. Normally I have to spend a few minutes carefully frame-by-frame poking through the blur of the content being skipped through, but Manly actually knows that some of his viewers might be interested in things that he himself doesn't feel like bothering to read, and that's all the difference. Big respect.
I feel so bad for the daughter. The fact that she has to endure all this just to keep up the charade. It also doesn’t seem like this is the first time she’s had to pretend she’s okay for the sake of their family image considering the arguing. This also seems it’s in the 40’s and 50’s so that’s another layer of trauma
This story really creeped me out. I had an elder sister who was disabled since birth and she unfortunately passed away. By God's grace, she was able to live longer than the doctor had expected. She passed away peacefully on my parents' bed while they were cleaning and changing her diaper. After my sister's passing, I had a hard time coping with the loss of my family because I was very young and I started getting very paranoid and I had nightmares of alternative situations that my parents would've kept the body as it decomposed in the house- much like how this game's story went. I'm lucky to have never experience something this and that it was all just a dream but if something like this happened to a family, I wouldn't know if what I would feel would be pity or disgust- or both.
The fact that they made the decomposition process realistic made this so much more jarring. The bloating is the part I was dreading the most and they described it so well. Absolutely horrifying.
@@errortryagainlater4240 Yeah when the game started to describe the bloating I was pretty surprised. They definitely did their research like they said.
@@maniacgreen8609 Not at all! The bloating stage is this on phase right after the body stiffens up the first time (rigor mortis). The bacteria in the body and/or any pests that have been decomposing the body build up so much waste that it makes the body literally inflate with gas and bile. That was the part in the game where all of a sudden the son was gushing fluids, it had hit that stage. Usually it’s just gas though, not sure where the black ooze was coming from but possibly the gamemakers had been looking at animal decomposition with cows, usually bile like that comes from a ruptured stomach of an animal that had been left out without any protection from the shade.
@@TransmutedCuppyCake the writer is a premed student and so would know a lot about human body decomposition. Maybe they just added the fluid for added horror-disgust factor? Or some humans also do have that happen and not just cows?
This hits home hard, after a year spent begging other family members to notice my grandfather’s very obvious signs of late stage dementia and not write everything off as him just being a bit tired. My surviving family had a better ending than this, but even after he was hospitalized twice and could spend entire days not knowing who we were, there were people who still maintained it was just lack of sleep and he would bounce back. Probably an unintentional metaphor, but still a strong one.
Same but my father and Lewy body dementia. Late 40s early 50s. My childhood effected, but yeah no he’s not sick bc he “looks healthy” 😃. I hate doctors, they rather listen to a sick man than his wife and daughter.
@@gamewizardthesecond I don't really understand your reply. The police at the door literally asked about the missing kid after discussing the smell complaint.
Just think how much of this story could have been avoided if everybody wasn't operating under the "keep family matters private" attitude of the era. Disgusting.
this was really well written. The characters were well done, sure we could have seen more of the father as manly stated; but I don't think it's terrible like this. I feel bad for everyone really, the mom was driven insane; although it's hard to be sympathetic to her in the final scene where she is straight up okay with murder. You can sort of see her getting there with her violent outbursts, but just yikes. Even still, it was insanity, not malice. The father just... broke down, I feel like there should have been more leading up to it, agreeing wth manly on the point, but it was done on a short schedule, so we got what we did. And of course poor little Gloria who.... had no blame in any of this, along with the other child right at the end. (Note, feeling bad does not necessarily mean I think they were good people, or did the right thing. It means I recognize they were not bad people at heart, who deserved this fate, not that what they ended up doing wasn't terrible.
@Liru Akerima It was set in the early to mid 1900's, you can tell by their clothing and there was *much* more emphasis during that time on men and women's roles that are emphasized here.
@Liru Akerima Didnt glorias brother got killed by the fathers car? First ever car was ~1885 (ca. 1 century before back to the future xD) invented and they started being relatively common in the early 1900s if my memory serves me right. And there was the picture of the perfect family through tv and radio.
@Liru Akerima Looked about late 1940s, early 1950s. The clothing, hairstyles, furniture and products they used pretty much point to around those two decades.
Part of what really makes this eerie to me, aside from.. well, everything, is that some of the descriptions remind me of what I've been told about the state of my grandma's house after she was found dead a couple months back. The smell, the bugs, it's all eerily accurate to what I know. If the house in the game was abandoned it'd fit the bill. I love how accurate the devs went with this, it makes it even more disturbing
This game was really freaky and almost scary due to how realistic the denying of death is. The mother and father’s reaction in the story and denial that had came with it is almost to scary to be true. This game was really interesting a psychological horror game indeed.
Me: Ok, scenario time. Your son has a pumpkin for a head and is decomposing rapidly, what do you do? My Grandma: chuck him in the trash. Me: WHAT WHY? Grandma: it’s gonna stink and have a big mess Me: BUT IT’S YOUR SON Grandma: *shouldn’t have had a pumpkin head then*
ngl this one hit way too close home for me. My mother suffers from a very rare mental disease and I can draw parallels between their actions. I'm still shaking and an old trauma has been revived. Great story!
This is 100% a story about parental favoritism. It absolutely screams it to me. _"If you have to guess whether or not you're the favorite kid, you're not the favorite."_ Anyone with siblings can attest to this feeling, the sensation that no matter what you do or no matter what your sibling does there is some form of preference to another sibling. Where if your parents were forced into one of those stereotypical, SAW-tier catch-22's where they had to pick only one kid and ship the others off to a glue factory or something you know they wouldn't pick you. The fact that the mother spends all her time with a legitimate decaying corpse and the father just sort of accepts it but also is incredibly distant...all of this is beaming headlights to the actual story going on.
@@savapavlovic3956 actually its called thanatos because of thanos, the comic book villain, this is because hypocrates observed that sometimes and for no apparent reason corpses can just spontaneously turn into dust. (Yes, its named after Thanatos)
Okay, so what really got me was the sound design. The maggots during the dream? Absolutely made my stomach churn. Ugh. Kudos to the devs for such disgustingly excellent sound design. And honestly, the time period they chose for this visual novel? Perfectly fit. Appearances were everything, the husband worked (and cheated) while the wife ran the house and raised the children. Parents word was trusted over their children, which makes sense why there were only phone calls, and the mother was so easily able to get the school to believe her over her daughter. And the officers believing the wife's "oh, my children are sick, everything is just happening at once, and my husband is so busy working, I get no help!" Back then, it was very likely for women to be believed if they put a story like that! Sympathy would get you very far (clearly). I just wish Gloria had thought of crawling out the window at some point. Though what she'd do afterwards would be iffy. 50/50 running to a neighbor would possibly result in them bringing her home. Poor child.
I'm kinda glad the medical accuracy was only in text, I can't imagine how horrible it would be with more graphic artstyle :0 I agree we didn't got much info on how the father gave up so quickly, I was expecting him to run away for cigarretes (?)
Horror media that delves into family abuse or domestic violence is the only thing that truly scares me these days. I can handle gore, but seeing Gloria desperately try to run away from her crazy mother and her neglectful father made me bawl hard.
I am glad they had done research into the subject and done things properly instead of doing what most do... Really hope they continue working on games. Would love to see more from them.
@@lifesucks3514 Pumpkin Eater's writer here! As mentioned in the afterword, how quickly decomposition takes depends on many, many factors. I am not a forensic expert, so I did my best with assuming due to the various factors in the story (Low humidity, average temperature, etc). A book I used as reference when writing is "Dead Men Do Tell Tales", where the quickest the expert saw human to near skeleton decomposition was two weeks due to a hurricane. It can take years if flies or microbes are unable to access the body to break it down.
I think I'm gonna be sick. I didn't want to watch this but I got interested in the story because of how well written it is and I hope the daughter would be saved. Your voice was amazing at reading things, as it always has been, and it made this disgusting experience really good.
21:02 Mom: "Im sorry for using that fly swatter on you! Did that hurt?" Manly: "Not as much as being run over" Me: *wheezing as I choke on my lemon tea*
@@JunkyardGod games with extreme gore aren't as hard, because they're clearly only fiction even extreme gory fiction. This however is somewhat realistic. Such behavior is sadly realistic for humans and thats what makes it disturbing. Even if the art isn't really terryfying, but the storytelling is really good especially with manlys va.
I never thought a visual novel could make me audibly dry heave and gag- The description of the decomposition process is so viscerally disgusting, the mental break of the mother is so disturbing, and the pain of the daughter is so gut wrenching- This makes my stomach CHURN- Phenomenal job developer!
If the game had more paranormal elements the kid would be a great candidate to be trapped as a spirit: - is a child - died suddenly and violently - body not properly laid to rest - body treated as if still alive
There were maggots in her food... I doubt she ate much... So probably spent at least 6 days barely eating at all, stressed, exhausted and having to bear her parents delusions. It was an hallucination, I think. Poor girl...
Ugh this is so sick. My stomach is turning. Even though it's obviously some kind of digital scan of pencil and watercolor, the human element of the story really helps elevate the imagery and bring out that emotion of disgust. A lot of horror goes for quick scares, but its forcing you into increasing tension and discomfort that really gets me personally.
It would have been refreshing if we had a scene where the mother broke down because she couldn't find a distinct mark or scar on the other boys body that would be on her son's. It is a replacement body and I would expect this woman who took such tentative and attentive care of her sons corpse would at least fond and reminisce about a birthmark that he had or a scar he still had on his body from hurting himself in an accident (besides the obvious one) during her psychotic spiral. Usually denial is the first reaction when a family member or a child dies, especially in this extreme case, and as usual with psychological thriller/horror tropes the character who has suffered the most to this tragedy is going about their life like everything is fine. However with how far gone the mother is I would expect after a couple of days with the new body that she would find something on that poor kids body that should or shouldn't be there as oppose to her son's body. This would bother the mother a lot. . . .A LOT, to the point that it may snap her out of her delusions completely or briefly until she thinks that the body should look exactly like her sons. I would have like to see how the devs played with that scenario because it actually happens in real life.
But they just recently killed the child, so the mother wasn't able to spend a lot of time with the "Son's New Body", but yeah, I agree! That would be a cool concept!
@@rayw.6677 When ppl go into a psychotic state such as this and to this extreme will but rarely try to find a replacement child to alleviate their grief, but once they've found that replacement and have been with it for awhile they will notice that the replacement child, whether it be a doll or another child is missing something that should have or shouldn't be on the child or dolls body. Women especially experience this, and will even go as far as sneaking in and stealing a baby from the maternity ward or nursery just so they can have a baby that looks just like their deceased child. Some go as far as killing or accidently killing a woman who is pregnant by performing a botched C-section to have a child that might possibly look like their deceased child. It's rare for it to happen and usually such extreme cases are kept on the hush due to a *very* binding gag order but it does happen. You can ask any psychology professor or psychiatrist, they study cases like these, especially a forensics psychologist.
@@RoyG.BivDevoe This is reminding me of that Bible story in King Solomon's time when one woman smothered her baby to death, so she switches her dead child with her roommate's child.
As someone who's really into true crime and knows a bit about decomposition, i can say this is very accurate. It draws similarities to a lot of cases, well in the sense of insanity and how someone turns. Also in a way reminds me of Ed Gein and how he wore his mother's skin and pretended to be her because of his desperation and co-dependency on her.
@@hi28 you've never heard of Texas Chainsaw Massacre? Ed Gein was a serial killer and possible cannibal from Wisconsin, he lived with his mother up until she passed and he went crazy, starting killing women and skinning them to make furniture and accessories and wearing their skin and faces, and made bowls out of skulls, he was then later the inspiration for Leatherface
It's interesting how at first glance the ending seems to be kind of happy for the daughter - she escaped death after all, and successfully talked to the police, her parents were arrested, and she finally got out of the house she hated so much... But if you look into it the ending is not happy at all. She ends up in an orphanage with no family members which she probably desperately needed in this situation and who could actually support her - after touching one of the policeman she even says "this is her first time in a while touching a warm body", clearly implying that she needs a supporting, familiar adult in her life right now... which she does not meet. Instead she ends up in a (since it's the 40's/50's and the treatment of children is different than today) probably cold, unaffectionate home with people she barely knows, and children who bully her about her "smelling bad", the only people she can talk to are the nurses, but let's be honest, they have to take care of tens/hundreds of children and probably don't have time to fully support this one girl... She also lost not only her brother, but also her parents basically all at once, after the accident everyone who used to be supportive and nice to her suddenly starts to belittle and question her (her mother does not even believe her about the death of her brother and tries to pretend everything is normal, this must've been extremely confusing and painful for her when no one believes her), she ends up kind of blaming herself for the son's death (she at some point says that "maybe if they weren't playing next to the road this wouldn't have happened" i think), she witnessed the death of the neighbor's son and survived an attempted murder - all of which are traumatic events. The next thing is more of a theory/my own interpretation but: the nurse seems to be bullying her as well? I mean, it was said that the crime was very talked about in the neighborhood, so surely the pumpkin on the head of the son must be a well known thing? Why would the nurse specifically bake her a pumpkin cake? I mean, I know it was supposed to be an accident but isn't it weird that of all cakes she baked specifically a pumpkin one? The chances of it being an accident were really low. I like to believe in the theory that the nurse did it to traumatize her as well, which would make the orphanage experience even more tragic than it already was. In conclusion all of those events are basically traumatic for this girl and she seems to have no way of coping. With so many things happening to her she could honestly end up suffering a similar fate to her mother, becoming mentally ill and suffering dissociation and denial of the whole situation as well as severe ptsd, or similiar terrible things. It's just so sad to see her go from basically living a dream life with her family, friends and little brother, laughing and having fun in the flashbacks, to being a broken child in the current situation.
Just let me cope man :( Also- she did say that the Nun was the only one nice to her and the times known about mental trauma isn't as advanced as it is now.
I appreciate the irony in this. They lost one child, but if they would have grieved and moved on, that would be the only casualty. I don't know if the father would even go to jail and if he did not forever since it was clearly an accident. They'd pick up the pieces and moved on. Now, because of it, the whole family fell apart. Also, yeah, the mom really dod act like the type that really dots on their son more than the daughter. I wonder what would be if the roles were reversed
This type of accident is somewhat common and I've heard of it happening several times on the news, at least in my country. Never heard of a parent being charged for it. I think the police ensures it was an accident and then nothing else happens, because it's caused by distraction, not by neglect. And the game is set in like 1950s I think, (when in my country you could kill your wife if you found her cheating and only get 3 years in prison because she was cheating) so the dad definitely wouldn't go to jail if he brought the kid immediately to the hospital.
I’m a Med student, so seeing accurate portrayals of this is quite refreshing-even if the son is the opposite of refreshing lol. Only thing that really got me was imagining the maggots, it’s one of the only things that grosses me out irl, but i stomached it because this story is just that stomach churningly good
I think I‘m fine with most descriptions of the decomposing stuff, but something about bugs and maggots nestling and eating away and wriggling around in served food just hits different in my tummy :‘)… also, poor Gloria… I felt so relieved her will didn’t break. The NERVE of that nun to serve her pumpkin pie though- (yeah, she probably didn’t know any better… but just DAMN, that poor girl!!!)
Tbh same. I didn't actually watch it all, skipped 10 seconds ahead while paused to get the basic vibe. I literally have a zombie OC that deals with some notable decomposition problems, that I detailed pretty well (not medically accurate tho) Could not read the bits with maggots everywhere- in the home, in the food (also the food being rotten. Just ew)
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No.
*He might still be edible for Pumpkin Pie, right Manly Kun?*
Man i hate when i have a pumpkin head that rapidly decomposes. This is totally me when i have a pumpkin head that rapidly decomposes
im sure my kid would love to be eaten if he become a pumpkin, we should know it by how his legs and arms react
This was genuinely terrifying. Not because it was scary towards me, but just horrifying for the daughter. I never thought I would get immersed to the point that I feel fear/dread for another character in a horror game.
Honestly, every word that either parent spoke made me feel like I was being slowly burned just as much as the daughter. Especially the end, the smell must be horrible.
Yes I fully agree! As an older sister to my little brother, this is genuinely terrifying.
I AGREE SO MUCH
@Storm Mist oh i thought he was just slipping up and not shaving lol
@@БогданКрименюк you did? Max i experienced was when my grandma died but its not like she was decomposing she was just ... Just dead but didn't smell or anything. And like we slept there 2 nights and she was in her bed in the room next to ours. It was like she was sleeping so i also didnt wanna "say goodbye" by touching her hand cause you know. I hate how cold dead ppl are fr. I get thats kinda a tradition here to touch your loved one corpse but i mean whats the point its just like whiplash of 'remember u grandma dead and she isnt sleeping at all!!! Touch her and see how cold she is!!!" No thanks🙂
Actually hate the father so much. Literally 5 seconds after killing his son hes already like "ugh, what if the neighbours saw me commit vehicular manslaughter that would be so embarassing🙄 gotta get rid of the body or whatever😒"
as soon as I saw the line “But more importantly, he loved his image”, I was like, damn this man needs to get his priorities in check
Yeah. Like, mom is clearly the insane one from the getgo, but its a fractured mental state sort of insanity. Dad just clearly didnt care about his children beyond what they did for his image. And it scarily reminds me of more than one real world parent/grandparent hiding deaths for the sake of keeping up appearances.
@@ultimateninjaboi which tells you that they're either a pretty well-off family in either europe or asia.
@@redblade5556 they mention them being a nuclear family so it's probably the US. It also mentions "the estate" and that they have a large pumpkin patch in the back and if you look at the background of the family scenes they are probably upper middle to rich. Due to the worry about their reputation they are probably very well respected.
When the dad said “let’s get him inside before the neighbors come” my first thought was that he didn’t want to shock anyone with the traumatizing sight of a dead kid with a squashed head, which would be a 100% valid concern... but, the truth is always disappointing.
I feel so bad for the daughter. She’s forever traumatized by this experience and pumpkins. I bet every Fall and October would be torture for her with Halloween. I’d join the nuns in the convent after that experience.
I hope she can heal from the experience.
We know one thing...Her mother is going to die alone in that institution cuz her daughter will never visit her. The mother now knows what its like to be locked away with no one taking her seriously like she did to her daughter.
Girl needs a good adopted family, poor thing...
Yeah thats the only thing you can do
Police officer: we have a bad smell complain and your son is missing from school
Mother: raccons and flys
Police officer: *understandable, have a nice day*
More like...
Mom: Oooh Raccons and flies, plus my husband is never home.
Police: Oh nooo! Well you have a good day, sorry to bother you single mom.
😆😆😆😆😆😆
To be fair, that shit happens all the time in real life. Cops literally have handed back victims to serial killers because they didnt care enough to investigate or thought it was too awkward (i.e. in the case of Jeffrey Dhamer, where the kid was fucking naked on the street with extremely concerning Injuries with three witnesses begging the cops to investigate it further.)
Cops will sometimes only check a room or two if there's a smell complaint, as the smell or rot is just so much they don't want to be there any longer than they deem necessary.
@@Quintwuzhere i doubt that happens very often nowadays but yeah…
@@strav8337 domestic violence victims, as well as abused children, are handed back to their spouses and families without much investigation if police are called instead of cps. If the person is disabled and/ or mentally ill, their rarely taken seriously when they accuse the abusers, and this can lead to their death either by malicious intent or negligence. I just used the most graphic example to make the clearest of points in the original comment though, but I do apologize for using the blatant rarer case comment rather than focusing on more common circumstances, as it seemed to fit better with the videos content but may have skewed the readers idea of frequency and dramatic visuals of it all. Hell, I even forgot here to mention abuse of elderly family members, which is completely hidden as they have extewmely few external social ties to check on them. It's always seen as better to let a person be mildly abused by their own family better than to be removed and become a burden on the state, but the courts tend to be overly lenient as they don't have the resources to really see just how bad the abuse is most of the time. I actually considered joining a social work field in order to try to combat these issues, but it's easier said than done even with related education. I hope you have a good day though, and again my apologies for my misphrasing, I should have rephrased it from all the time to " it does happen " to avoid confusion.
@@strav8337 It happens more than you think
Mother: are you thirsty? Would you like something to drink?
Manly: yeah get me some embalming fluid
Holy crap you watch manlybadass hero too?!?
This is why manly is the best lmao,ngl i laugh my ass quite hard,also just ignore the person above thinking he funny being sarcastic
@@CantbeCyril haha yep! XD
@@riciirizaldii8811 for me his monotone voice really does a lot to sell his humour because you always get caught off guard when he does make a joke XD
Also I'm assuming/hoping the person above knows me from hermitcraft videos because I comment a lot there (￣∇￣)
@@CantbeCyril
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Honestly my favorite part of this horror game is how believable it is.
A mother who loved her son so much and just couldn't accept his death, now forcing her family to live with his rotten corpse and act as if he was still alive. That's something you find on the news or on a true crime podcast, and it terrifies me
It's both terrifying and sad.
I feel bad for her in a way, but ultimately i blame the father for all of this. If he wasn't so selfish at the beginning when he hit his son. The mother even wanted to bring him to the hospital but the father refused
@@inumizuno His head was a splatter on the pavement. What the hell is the hospital supposed to do?
@@exu7325 Preserve the corpse ig? Idk i don't remember writing my comment either haha
There are people who are like that, living with their corpses before burial or just as a cope
@@exu7325 NOT keep his body in their house is one thing
I don't think I've ever seen devs put "hey this would be a cool movie, call us!" in their game but honestly? I agree, this would be a sick exploitation horror as they said. I hope they do get taken up on that offer.
I think it has a higher chance of someone stealing the idea, then pitching it to Netflix and then Netflix stealing the pitch.
@@yumnomik9937 if they do that I'm gonna be so mad
and Deodato would be the best pick too, they know what they're doing
@@yumnomik9937 and then Netflix ruining it somehow
@@nerathechildoflight9974 probably with sOMEHOW adding forced inclusion, since netflix is so famous from doing so
even more messed up is that i think the mother could’ve turned out relatively okay following plenty of therapy and close mental health monitoring/support, IF the husband hadn’t so selfishly immediately thought of how running over his son would affect his “image” and instead called the police/ambulance right away. the mother even wanted to take her son to the hospital, but the father insisted it remained a secret. i wholeheartedly believe that had she not been left alone for 25 days stewing in her own illusions to cope with the mental trauma, she could’ve had a chance at normalcy again and grieving in a healthier way.
the true victim here though is, of course, the daughter. the trauma she was put through… man… not to mention she lowkey blames herself because they were apparently playing in the driveway… so fucked up
This actually reminds me of the horror film Hereditary, in a way (SPOILERS)
In the movie, the daughter character gets decapitated in a freak car accident, and her older brother just drives home in shock and leaves her body in the car for his mom to find. Shock is a helluva drug and can lead to irrational decisions.
oh absolutely, shock is something a lot of people don’t realize how powerful it is until they experience it first hand (if they’re ever unfortunate enough to do so). granted its hard to imagine yourself doing something like you mentioned or like from the gameplay while in your right mind- but when youre in a state of shock its a whole other ballgame lol
Rehab? Ya no not for a mental break at that level..
The police would have treated that as manslaughter and conspiracy, especially with the timeline of the scenes 1950-1960 the asylum would have been her fate..
There was no mental return for the mother, when she was like "lets put a pumpkin on it and have dinner". The mother was Gone by that point with only her favoritism taking over brooding a delusion; she broke into fragments based on the episodic schizophrenia that got worse, and her parental instincts were all that was left of her. (Really well researched I might add)
The only sane one was the one with faith and willpower, the mother and father were much like the brother, dead inside..
So no..
The father & daughter could have received treatment and rehab for PTSD, but as soon as the mother came to terms with the reality of the car crushing her sons head like a described pumpkin, she was already self destructed and was lost..
I don't think therapy will help someone get over the fact they ran over their own son's head
@@sown-laughter4351 i disagree. mental health treatment following a traumatic event immediately makes the likelihood of general recovery much higher. ofc, when i say general recovery, im in no way implying she would simply be walking away as if nothing happened and everything was all rainbows and roses. she would have had lifelong mental health care and therapy.
i do acknowledge that there was awful practices that were popular at the time, specifically electroshock therapy, but when i wrote my initial comment it was within the grounds of the death being acknowledged and taken care of immediately. shock can happen to anyone and everyone, and how someone reacts to a state of shock either amplifies or dampens the next course of action that the brain takes as a means to protect itself. assuming that her mental health before this was relatively standard, the shock is what drove her to the psychiatric break, and it not being acknowledged properly by the only other adult/comprehensively grown individual most definitely played a big part in those delusions coming to fruition. so when i look at this, if she hadnt been allowed to keep her sons body around, if the proper measures were taken to confirm in her brain that this was real and it really did happen (ie - calling police so other adults can confirm the death, having a hospital confirm the death, holding a funeral to acknowledge the sons passing) i truly do think she wouldn’t have gotten to the point she did in game. again, never the same as she was prior to the accident, but much better off than sweeping it under the rug and the people around you pretending it was okay. besides, her brain already subconsciously acknowledged he was dead by making up so many excuses so people wouldnt ask questions. but she couldn’t accept the reality because the husband let it distort to try and find a way to bypass responsibility.
as far as the law goes im not too savvy with what it would have been like in the 1950’s but i’d assume the father would be the one at fault for driving, not the passenger (unless it was premeditated)?
I noticed that decay plays an important theme in this story. The boy's corpse is not the only thing that starts decomposing as the story progresses.
Yeah the mother's sanity starts decomposing, the food starts decomposing, the whole house starts to decompose
mother's sanity, father's ability to stand up to the mother, daughter's confidence, the state of the house, all kinds of things decay
@@Casandraelf The way you said father's ability to stand up rubbed me the wrong way. He was clearly portrayed as sexist and selfish, his standing up wasn't standing up.
@@bloddrinkeraka I agree he definitely was sexist or so the story take place in a time it was normalized to them. But standing up for his daughter and himself could of saved them either way
Don't forget the marriage decays as a result of everything going on as well.
As a former student of forensic anthropology, I appreciate the accuracy of the decomposition process. The devs definitely did their homework.
i like your funny words magic man
Woo! Forensics anthropology!
Wait- I know sometimes the brain will function after death but far after the start of decomposition? Is that possible?
@@Mystery-Wolf I think they meant the decomposition stages from rigor and livor mortis up to putrefaction and adipocere formation.
@@Mystery-Wolf Doesn't the brain require oxygen to survive? I don't think the brain can still function at that point.
Mother: "I keep replacing the pumkin but he doesn't get any better. What if we replaced the body?"
Me and manly at the same time: What!?
God too: What!?
Theseus: "If you replace each part of your child, is it still the same boy?"
Bro I literally also said "What!?" at the same time as Manly lol. Guess the 3 of us said it simultaneously.
When she said that, I initially breathed a sigh of relief thinking that she'd replace it with something inorganic like a wooden doll, so even if her craziness didn't stop at least it wouldn't be a rotting corpse... and then she mentioned the neighbor's son and I had to join in on the "What!?"
@@spaghetto9836 The world collectively questions the ongoing sanity of this woman.
Me too but instead I said: huh?!
“Pass the salt to your brother, he looks like he needs some.” Could this be referring to using salt to preserve bodies, such as in Egypt with the mummies?
I mean hes a mummy alright
Lol this is what I thought 😂😂
@@eatmyshortsmom most random thing ever but I love how your pfp is from the 2012 version of TMNT, that version is very underated (:
Salt was used to preserve food before refrigerators.
𝚆𝚑𝚘 𝚠𝚊𝚗𝚝 𝚗𝚊𝚗𝚝𝚛𝚘𝚗
I.. Know someone who's had an experiance like this. A cousin, her son died of cot-death (still a baby), but she kept his body around. Dressed it, posted pictures of it on facebook.. Stuff like this does happen, it's pretty unsettling
Did someone at least investigate her on the dead baby?
Did she ever get called out for it?
Not To Be Rude But She Needs Help Like A Doctor Or Something
@YELLING CAT Agreed
@YELLING CAT same its actually really creepy and unsettling
somehow i just could not stop feeling bad for the son throughout the entire gameplay. homie couldn't even have a peaceful funeral after getting his brains blown on the sidewalk
Petition for Son to get a proper funeral
@@jaslikeart Signed!
SIGNED
Why did I laugh at this 😂
Also
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The creation of this game must be in the top "I'm a writer and this research is for my next work officer, I swear" moments.
@@dentheduck2095 (Shrug)
@@dentheduck2095 visual novel game
@@dentheduck2095 it’s more of an experience I suppose.
Best part is the creator popped in to this very comment section to confirm they learned about the stages of decomposition as a Pre-Med student and that's what inspired them to make it.
Imagine being a teacher that thought a girl tried to prank her about her brother’s corpse and after her mother personally took her from school…she’s never to be seen again.
You'd think after one child not being seen for a month bc of "measles" and their sibling saying there's a corpse in the house and coming to school with an awful smell, they'd do a welfare check.
@@teapartypenguin1353 you underestimate how much schools actually care about their students
I seriously doubt the teachers would care
@@Reshme77
Well if the media caught this and the school’s reputation is at stake because a teacher ignore one of the student…Obviously they will care even if somehow they don’t feel remorse and regret
@@Reshme77
Administration may not, but some teachers care quite a lot and are mandatory child abuse/neglect reporters besides.
Granted, that's modern day logic and laws and not whenever the game takes place.
I also think I'm listening to too many child abuse case crime podcasts...
I really like this kind of horror. The author doesn't have to come up with a supernatural or scifi plot to make the story scary. The horror of nature is relatable right off the bat and in my opinion hasn't been explored that much. Props to the team that did their research seriously, it even made me pause this vid to look up the process of decomposition. Human body is both beautiful and disgusting.
Horror…is truth.
This game is true metal and body horror. It could happen in real life making it even more uncomfortable.
Yes it has. And being disturbed isn’t horror. It’s just disturbing.
@The Let's Player
Them saying human nature hasn’t been explored enough. I believe it has, and a lot of disturbing content has been created by it.
@@gbioabngd About decomposition then. Not a lot of games show decomposition of corpses for you to see. Other than RE7 I don't really know if there's anything that plays to the topic of rotting humans.
26:23 still wondering which will fall apart first, the body or the pumpkin. I think it will be tremendously horrid if the pumpkin falls away, revealing a head that is not only crushed and rotting, but also crammed full of the food the mother has been forcing into it.
Imagining the food being pushed into a crushed-off, barely-attached jaw to just sit there and rot is what made my blood curdle about this game
and also the maggots, the daughter felt all the maggots squirming in her mouth during that one nightmare, so his mouth was probably full of them too..
The body almost certainly falls apart first, assuming the pumpkin isn't messed with too much. Pumpkins are pretty structurally sound, and if the worst thing eating it is microbes and flies, it'd last a lot longer
@@chaincat33 Do you think the same applies to a hollowed out pumpkin with an entire rotting head with congealed blood and all that _and_ maggot infested rotting food? It must be moldy on the inside.
I have owned pumpkins that lasted over a year uncarved, the pumpkin here would prob only last a day
mold gets it quick when carved and it starts rotting after a few days even if you clean the mold off, now thats in a kitchen at room temp untouched, this is on a broken smashed in head and the body its on is constantly moved
Game devs did everyone a service by not giving the son a face with his body. Can you imagine the horror of watching a complete body decay. Easier to detach oneself from the reality or imagery of a rotting corpse when it doesn’t have a head. Maybe that’s why the mom was able to still believe her son was still alive so easily.
And they replaced it with a vegetable that also rots so it wouldn’t be far off, and be without the gore, I personally appreciated that.
In a way it's kind of scarier to imagine what he looks like under that pumpkin. Especially since hole chunks of his jaw are missing...
The mother's psyche broke the moment her son died (not that she had any mental fortitude to begin with, as is obvious). But that last event broke her and it's clear that this isn't the first time she blatantly denies reality.
Wait actually ur so right.
On a side note, there's no gameplay, it's just clicking forward to see the next dialogue until it ends
The Mom: Dear do you think something went bad in the pantry?
Manly: Dear our son went bad
*I'M SORRY BUT I CAN'T HELP BUT LAUGH-*
Lol, same
He was spitting so many burns throughout this video, it was as if he enjoyed what was happening 🤣🤣.
He said honey not dear
I was wheezing
He expired😭🤧
the poor children. the son's body was disrespected so much, another kid was dragged into their mess, and gloria was traumatized beyond belief. this story is so messed, and the game is exceptional. i hope the devs will make another one T^T
more like dragged into their basement
Lemon Head: Your Daughter has a Lemon for a head and the lemon is decomposing rapidly but you still love her
@@namesluce BRO 💀💀
I thought it was so sweet how the little girl, despite being grossed out and horrified by the state of her dead brother, still missed him and he came back from the grave to warn her to run
And the dad is really horrible too. The wife desperately needs help and he has a gut to cheat his wife just bc she become more "demanding"
It's so wack to think that all of this could've been avoided if the father called the police right then and there when the accident happened.
Like even if you can tell your wife is going coo coo for co co puffs, he should've "called the hospital".
There really is a lot of people who pride themselves in appearance and truly end up hurting their children by trying to seem "respectful". Not even in such extreme cases. I like this story as a literally gruesome horror bit but also as a symbolic causionary tale of people putting their pride over their children's well being. CRAZY COOL
People have very weird reactions under pressure.
To be fair. He was probably in shock when he said that. People don't really think clearly when that happens.
Though later on he should have called the police. He seemed sane enough to recognize the situation.
I don't think it was pride. It's revealed the son died when the father drove over his head, meaning he'd be culpable for his sons death. If reported, he would be likely to face significant jail time. This would explain his own solution to bury the body in the pumpkin patch and never speak of it again, he was trying to hide the evidence of the child's death in a place wear decomposition would occur faster and render it harder for any future investigation to pin the blame on him.
@@theirDevil oh absolutely, but in the very beginning of the game the narrator points out that one of the most important things to them is their appearances. Or something on that vein. I'm paraphrasing. I absolutely see what you mean tho! I think their actions can be interpreted in many number of ways.
Why didn't he went to the police during his work hours is beyond me.
This one is horribly accurate, not only medically but in the way the daughter responds emotionally, seeing her brother as an 'it' because the body looks uncanny. I've unfortunately been around a deceased person for a few hours after the passing and this game really captured the sobering reality of it, amazing game but holy shit.
The hell are you ok?
yeah, not a person but I saw my dog die in my arms. his eyes just became lifeless and it wasn't him anymore. I held the body for a while, but I could not feel him there anymore. awful
@@av3ngers17 poor dude :(
sorry for your loss
@@av3ngers17 same. I also held my dog while he was dying and then he died after a few minutes i let go of him, but it was really sad for me since i was a kid back then when he died. :(
My dog died around a week ago. Seeing his dead body was sad enough, his tongue turned yellow and he kept twitching. I cant imagine being around an already decayed one. Rest in peace, Jackie.
I’m currently teaching at an English kindergarten in Korea. One of my students recently described the plot of this game to me in surprisingly lucid English (especially considering she’s only 6 years old) but she didn’t really clarify where she got the story from. I was very surprised to see that this is a real thing, right in my UA-cam recommendations. I pray her mother restricts her internet access 💀
I volunteered at an elementary school once and was helping in the art room when a class of first or second graders came in (6-8 years old).
One began talking about FNAF, so we began chatting about video games in general, and one little boy said he liked playing Outlast. Not even watching a playthrough, actually playing the game.
@@sadrabbit53 Not a horror game but when I was 4 I was playing duke nukem. Didn't screw me up.
kids are weirdly attracted to horror and it's both funny and concerning. like I believe if they're not affected by it badly then go ahead, I used to be obsessed with dark folklore as a kid and would look up monsters who flayed humans and ate their intenstines. but if it gets to the point they're developing bad phobias or it's affecting their mental health, then yeah you need to step in.
@@sadrabbit53 oh god yes, I used to read pretty depressing horror stories when I was a kid just because it was so fascinating to me and I was obsessed with folklore/monsters. It hasn't turned me into a serial killer or anything but in retrospect, _jesus christ_ 😂💀
LMAO 😭
Hello, I am thugzilla, the writer of Pumpkin Eater! Thank you and everyone for your kind comments! I'm a premed student in college, so Pumpkin Eater was a way to show off my weird knowledge. This was the first horror game I've written, and hopefully not the last. I hope you all enjoyed reading it as I did writing it! :D
wait you plan on making more horror games? thats gonna be amazing
@@lifesucks3514 I am! My main project is a dark comedy visual novel called Object Ward, but I do like to work on other things from time to time. I have a horror game planned for next summer, also as medically accurate as possible. Can't say too much about it, but will definitely have that thugzilla-approved disturbing factor :)
This is one of those horror games I constantly look up to see who was playing, in order to watch their reactions. Because it really does stir up strong reactions. I hope to see people start sharing this left and right for the sake of reactions. A lot of horror games are spread around streamers like this and this is short and small enough to reach others quickly. I hope more streams and people with following bring this to a critical mass where it becomes some manner of rite of passage among horror streamers. Because what it does to people is very different from other games. It's not terror - fear and unease over some perceived danger. It is true horror - revulsion and disturbing feelings that continue to haunt after the experience. It is heavy and begets introspection and emotional processing after the fact. And it's worth watching how the many people deal with it!
SO COOL!! Do you have a twitter so I can follow?
dude, this game was AWESOME!! so beautifully dark and morbid, and i felt _so_ bad for gloria…
i can’t wait to see what other games you make!!! :DDD
So from a medical perspective, it's quite fantastic how accurate they were with the stages/progression of decomposition. Very good attention to detail w/ the rigor mortis setting in and then passing in an accurate timeframe. The only issue I've seen: the daughter says kids at school noticed she smelled bad. That probably isn't going to happen though. The odor will heavily permeate the area and anything in direct contact with the source of the odor, but nothing further. It is very common for the odor to become universal when exposed for any decent amount of time, however. So if you spend 2 hours in the room/house of a body with advanced decomposition, after exiting, you will not smell like the body did. Your clothes won't. In fact, objects taken from the house generally won't either. But when you smell those items yourself, it will smell like the advanced decomposition. When you put a piece of fabric/clothing to your nose and inhale deeply, it will smell like the body. Open a jug of milk, and smell it. Smells like rot. This goes away after a while, but again, the odor isn't there. It's really just in your head, or the scent is trapped in your nostrils.
Good point but I think towards the end it was in her head including the smell and buzzing. I think she needed therapy for what happened. Being forced to take care of her brothers dead body, plus the story spreading pretty quickly, the kids were just being mean and not truly understanding what happened to her. Mainly because children don't learn about death until their much older plus her mind forcing her to continue smelling the odor. Her mother made her feel like the brothers death was her fault not accepting the husband did it. Even tho "the brother forgave her". The phantom smell is her guilt about letting all this happen to her brother. Being forced to be the adult while the mother played house and the father, drank and cheated the guilt away believing it was the daughters fault to. A brilliant story but creepy at the same time for being so accurate.
Honestly it wouldn't shock me if the kids were being cruel, kids, especially young ones can be really fucked up when it comes to the kind of insults they do, once they saw she scrubbed a lot they started picking at it, pretty common in a sad way.
Maybe she just didn’t shower as much, maybe the maggots invaded the bathroom too. Eck.
Something that might transfer the smell is that she slept in the same room her brother’s body was kept in, not just for two hours but for extended periods daily, and I can also see the mother interacting with the body and then with clean clothes because she deludes herself that her rotting son’s body isn’t slimy and gross, so then the girl’s clothes become dirty with rancid body fluids. She would then be expected to wear them because to the mother they’re perfectly clean.
Of course, part of it is probably the psychological thing too.
@Ark7 Would bacteria from the body merge with living body flora since she's been staying in the same room as him every day? It's been a super long time for me, but my microbiology prof talked about how a man suddenly became smelly after cutting up a chicken but was healthy and in the end it was due to the bacteria living in his skin flora, or something to that extent.
Edit: After a brief search, I came across that study: "A man who pricked his finger and smelled putrid for 5 years" published 1996. I think it's very much possible that odor-causing bacteria had penetrated Gloria's natural body flora similar to this case, but different in that she was in constant contact with the body.
“I think my marriage is falling apart along with my son’s body.” IM DYING
like the son
Manlybadasshero murdered the entire family. With his words! 😂😂
@@iamarapscllionnah! 😮
this game is equal parts horrfying and sad - it shows how one small, simple accident can tear a family part with grief, and madness. the madness in the mother is just .. horrible. and the fact it would happen to anyone, anywhere is just so chilling
she snapped after her son's death.
That's sad and horrifying.
Also, why didn't the father just call the cops??
"Small simple accident."
They literally ran their kid over!
@@coledibiase1777 and @Storm Mist don't think you understood my meaning - it was small and simple by nature, as it could happen to anyone, not to undermine the severity of the accident, but in the grand scheme of things it was a simple accident - they didn't mean or plan to run their kid over (obviously) , but it was simply the kid being in the wrong place at the wrong time - hence my meaning by small and simple. obviously the trauma and the mental trauma are anything but, - the action itself , however was simple.
@@coledibiase1777 Still happens, and commonly unfortunately. People don't pay attention enough and even then, sometimes it still just happens.
My brother watched his friend almost get ran over. Thankfully he was just grazed, but was traumatizing for all parties involved.
@@abigailfowler1843
That's why there shouldn't be so many cars, but GM lobbied the government so fucking hard that things like subways, railroads, sidewalks and trolleys (some of the safest modes if transportation) were completely disregard because a few asshats were like "No, CARS, are the future, disregard how dangerous, economically unsustainable, environmental shortsighted, and stupid they are."
Cars are cool, but stupid.
The poor daughter. In the ending, the sight of a pumpkin treat--let alone one with bugs near it--likely reminded her of her trauma. PTSD is a nasty thing.
Imagine being the teacher who the daughter tried to get to help her. They must’ve felt terrible after they found out that she was telling the truth.
Mom: “Haha i love my son he’s so great and well behaved”
The son: 🎃💀🎃💀🎃💀
The son: 🩸🩸💀 🎃🤢🤢🕸🪱
God the emojis
bro not the emojis broooo
@@-thanawat-8296 You used an emoji :/
Likes are at 666, nobody change it
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I just asked for *ONE* thing and you guys flopped it
This game gives me chills, it's so realistic and captures human mentality so well it's horrifying. And, wonderful voice acting! You're very good at expressing fear while maintaining a passive voice.
Manly is really good at voicing roles. I 100% agree with his well voice acting towards the horror, fear and grief.
Is it a game or is it just a story?
@@Tilda_the_mage just a story
@@Tilda_the_mage It's a visual novel. Very cheap on Steam if you want to experience it by yourself.
@@Tilda_the_mage its a visual novel, so its both.
Imagine the Mom seeing the headless Horseman
"Wow, they grow up so fast!"
First alive, then dead with a pumpkin head, then rotten, then had the body of the neighbors child, now a Halloween celebrity
@@thatrandomrecorder914 LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
@@thatrandomrecorder914 god damn thats some improvement
@@thatrandomrecorder914 glow up of the century right there
Imagine the boy actually WAS still alive, and he grows up to be the HH
Oof, this game is a hard one to swallow. Not just because of the medical accuracy (which is great, don’t get me wrong), but just the idea that all of this happened not because of a crazed serial killer, or a ghost killing the living, but because of a simple mistake that could happen to anyone in real life. And just the way that both the mother and father just… fell apart so quickly. It feels so realistic that it honestly makes me sick to the stomach. Kudos to the creators of the game, and kudos to Manly for the excellent reading!
Edit: Jesus Christ, my first comment to get over 1k likes and it’s just me word vomiting for a whole paragraph lmao
I actually feel like throwing up now, oof. It's a realistic game, I wonder what time period this was set as though?
@@mycatisasupermodel4932 I think at the times where the Peter pumpkin eater rhyme was created.
I play mortal combat so yeah.... pretty softcore gore if u ask me
@@accelerator7952 This is not the same. Combat games doesn't give you an unpleasant feeling because it's not about making you uncomfortable it's about making it brutal which you can find uncomfortable but it's more about action and for gore fans. And his body rotting is not really about making it gore it's about showing us this unpleasant process. And with this old drawing style and this unpleasant feeling it gives you old messed up stories vibes like the Struwwelpeter stories.
@@accelerator7952 what a weird ass comparison. mortal kombats gore is about being as brutal as possible, this games gore is about making you as uncomfortable as possible. its not comparable whatsoever
Poor Gloria. I both understand and don't understand why the father didn't just take the daughter and flee.
Overall, I did enjoy the story and Manly's voice acting.
Lack of therapy and toxic masculinity staying his hand tbh
@@kaiayang2855 exactly from what I understand this story looks like its around the 50's or early 70's not sure in my opinion
I think the mother broke him down mentally as time went on, coupled with his pride as a man being shattered and most likely his guilt over what he did to his son, all contributed to him basically becoming a zombie who was completely bound to the mother’s will.
He totally enables the mom. Like at any point during his bar adventures, he could've gotten away and idk told police? Like I'd be afraid to leave the girl with the mom while doing that, but he was doing that anyway so...
@Oren Black folks up here demonstrating why the father did nothing wrong up until day 10 or so, man was threatened at knifepoint and he is still considered by the comment section not only a murderer but also responsible for the abuse at home. no wonder his first reaction was not to call the police, as evidently there was no chance of anything but a public lynching. what, was he supposed to beat his wife (not some stranger, but a person he is spending his life with) to death with a shovel? drag his daughter out, not getting stabbed in the process and inevitably be blamed for the whole ordeal and get punished as a kidnapper and a murderer (as the mother demonstrated on day 5, she was more than willing to call the accident a deliberate murder) to inevitably have the child returned to her mother and himself to the electric chair?
Y'know.. maybe sitting down with a bowl of clam chowder and hitting "play" wasn't the best decision I made today.
😂
4D experience, huh?
This game's art style really contributed to the eerie and fearful emotions of the daughter, showing her crumbling slowly, but still having the determination to somehow end the madness she is in. It also portrayed the grief of the mother turned to insanity so well, i feel this game is really well done
its honestly really gorgeous, as a visual artist it's genuinely really well done (despite what I know many would think of it at first blush, there's a lot of skill evident here)
It reminded me of one of those story books that was painted
personally i think that the mother’s grief almost immediately turned to insanity, or that she was already insane in some way because once the son died she almost immediately (after asking to take him to a hospital and such) tried to replace his head with a pumpkin. although i do agree that she sinks deeper and deeper into the insanity as the story progresses.
@@damien678 aren't all artists visual artists?
@@basilbat273 arts can be like musical arts, language arts, textile art, etc., so no, not all artists are visual artists
As a forensics student I feel so bad for finding some humor in this. It just reminds me of this morbidly funny story from back when we were watching the decomposition process of donated bodies. **WARNING TO ANYONE WHO MIGHT BE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH REAL SITUATIONS INVOLVING DECOMPOSITION**:
So basically we were in groups learning about how various factors such as heat, cold, proximity to water, etc. affected human decomposition. We each were given the opportunity to learn from donated bodies, which we treated with a great deal of respect. We'd go out to see the body, make detailed observations, check a night camera to see if there were any significant events that happened that may have affected the process, and then after writing down notes we'd put this dome cage over the body so that the body wouldn't be messed with by animals. The body I was observing was in a pretty cold area so the decomposition rate was going to be slower than others.
On the second or third day that I went to go visit the body I noticed that the guy had his elbow bent with his middle finger stuck out. I couldn't touch the body or anything so I just took pictures laughing at the ridiculous pose then left putting the cage back on. Next time I went to see him this time he had BOTH middle fingers up. Had to take pictures of it again and let me tell you it's pretty difficult to say that a dead guy was giving me the double-bird in scientific terms.
Ended up checking the camera at the end of the week and realized what was going on; there was a raccoon that had been screwing around with the body for days. Probably trying to eat the fingers, he was just reaching through the tiny holes of the cage we had and messing with the fingers, hands, and arms. Thanks to him I have a whole paper written where a dead guy is constantly flipping me off.
I wanna know what happened with the research paper of the body flipping you off. Was it a successful paper👀?
@@hololiveenjoyer5655 Not really, it was less of a publishable thing because of so many sources of error but it was still in good fun. For a good year my cohorts and I would flip each other off when we saw each other.
Even death couldn’t stop this guy from telling the world to F off 😂
This made me choke on my cheese sticks
I have to ask, are you allowed to take photos of a dead body? idk why but if someone close to me died and someone was taking photos of their body with their middle fingers up that would feel kind of weird of me 🤷♀️
Let me just say that I am so glad the daughter was able to escape. You see endings in horror stories the hero or one of the hero’s doesn’t escape but this one had me at the edge of seat really hoping she’d get out of there. Truly a horrific fate worse than death.
thank you so much for this comment
now i can finally watch the rest of the video in peace
too bad that it didn't happen before they killed some random kid though, i didn't see that part coming
I thought the dad was more horrible than the mother. The mother mightve been a nut job, but he was a scum and a coward that went along with his wife's misdeeds
it's a rare treat to find horror that uses inately human things to disturb you instead of just monsters or jumpscares
The mother is a monster tho
The game’s horror gave me huge chi no wadachi vibes, with the abusive mother and all that
There's an amazing horror novel called "Room", written from the perspective of a 5 year old boy in a _horrific_ captive situation with his mother. That's another very disturbing horror with purely human elements.
this game didn't upset me with the body horror stuff. It was the way the daughter had been treated and how she handled the situation. Obviously the body horror doesn't apply but I've been in an abusive household. And a lot of the daughter's reactions to the abuse and how she handled it or shut down is very relatable for me. The person who wrote the story for this didn't only do a great job with the body horror and that aspect, but did a phenomenal job with the daughters reactions to changes in her mother and father and everything that happened. awesome visual novel.
Are you doing OK, my bro? I hope you got the support you deserve now! Nobody deserve to go through abuse and in a home you are supposed to feel safe in? That's terrifying. I really hope you are safe now
@@vienna-mf8xb I was rescued by my grandparents in 2013. I've been great ever since.I probably wouldn't be in the situation I'm in if it wasn't for them. But the stuff I went through probably won't ever leave me. It doesn't really matter to me as much now though. It's in the past and I don't let it get in the way of what I have to do in the present. Thanks for asking though I really appreciate that. It made my day. Hope you have a good one. And to anyone who reads this. If you fight long enough and hard enough, eventually something will be done. It may be hard now, and it might feel like nothing ever will happen. It will. You just have to believe in your own strength (and if you believe like I do trust in God or whatever religious figure you worship) and you'll make it out. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
@@michaelhunt6920 I hope you have a great day
@@marchleo9801 thanks man. i appreciate. my bad for not responding right away. UA-cam notification system and all.
@@michaelhunt6920 that's not always true, unfortunately. I was trapped until mine died. I only say this so that anyone who reads this won't blame themselves if nobody ever helps them, you know?
I felt bad for the kids. The son died & instead of being buried he was made into a doll for the mom to cope, the daughter had to suffer days with two delusional parents & the rotting corpse of her brother, & the random kid that got murdered to be a replacement for the dead son.
The daughter is now living as an orphan with severe trauma all because her parents couldn't act rationally.
20:57
That smack the mother gave to the son with the fly swatter made me laugh
“Did that hurt?”
Manly: Not as much as being run over
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Author:"This is a serious visual horror novel."
Manly:"Too bad, I'm the narrator in this video."
@@afluffylittlefriend4597 that trash bin that was overflowing with maggots was probably another manly's soul reference
The delivery of that dry humor is everything
@@БогданКрименюк People like dark humor. Get over it.
The mother loved her son so much that she forgot she also had a daughter .
I feel so bad for the daughter she didn’t deserve to deal with her parents fighting and having to look at the sons decomposing body
Ouchiwawa
Next to Normal
@@renno2679 How is that next to normal?
😔
I really want a movie based on this now, especially with those little moments where it almost feels like a ghost is around. This was awesome
I think it was a ghost at the end
@@tanucreate More likely her survival instinct kicking in. She needed some closure to flee, and her mind gave it to her. The game tries to feel as real as posible, psychology can explain that.
This was actually horrifying, not because of the art, but because of the story.
Read some time ago in the newspaper that the police found a dead body at the kitchentable while the brother lived there the last 3 weeks or so. The neighbors called the police also because of the smell.
the most realistic part isnt the accuracy of the rotting body, its the fact that the police did nothing to help
💀💀💀
I mean, until the ending.
The police not helping finding dead body has been such a common thing in murder cases tbh
The police won't do anything about my grandfather who molested my sister and one of his daughters because he's in his 80s...
@@lone2234
And/or not investigating cases involving abused/dead children
I actually loved the small details in the game, for example the mom wearing lipstick but as the story progress, she stops wearing it.
I kinda wish the daughter would have had a happy ending. I feel bad for her, I imagine a lot of people would.
I imagine ptsd getting to the daughter and never being the same, I doubt there ever being a happy ending for the girl at all.
Yeah, but it’s more realistic, most people couldn’t just have a happy ending after an experience like this.
@@acrazysheepdog1555 this is true 😞
I quite honestly thought she would be killed.
Honestly I think she got just about the best ending she possibly could have, without her parents themselves doing something differently. At the very least, she’s alive and out of the situation that was causing her so much agony, even if the wounds from that situation will probably never heal.
28:00 I know it's a horror trope to not listen to the kid. But depending on the day and age that the story is set in, this is very much possible since children where still relatively seen and not heard.
Yeah, the fact that they had phones wired to the walls and the way how they're dressed makes me think that they're some time in the 50s-80s.
They never mention TV but do specify the Lone Ranger radio show. Thats a pretty good indication that you are completely right.
The horror is real and alive today, where plenty of kids report abuse to numerous parties and still don't get on authorities' radars until they're dead
@@sadrabbit53 and the kids are made out to be the monsters in some cases
As someone who has tried to report abuse to teachers for years, I can tell you that such things still do happen to this day, sadly.
I just wonder how the father couldn’t see his son in the goddamn driveway, it’s not exactly hard to miss unless he was either drunk or he’s just unbelievably careless.
It said the daughter and son were rough housing I think he fell in front of the wheel as they were pulling in.
It's actually like shockingly common. 50 times a week in the US alone.
Well, that was deeply disturbing. Who needs a slasher killer or a big monster when you've got familial love and the power of deniable coming together to form a miserable circumstance that just gets worse with each passing day. The medical accuracy definitely adds to the disgust factor, but it's the mother's shattered sanity that brings out the real horror.
Spoiler alert, watch the video first
Damn, this was actually really good! I didn't expect the "let's kill another child" Plot twist. And I actually got excited when the son told her to run, as I see it, it wasn't something supernatural, more like she desperately trying to convince herself to do it.
Really good honestly, didn't expect the plot twists.
Ok imma stop scrolling through the comments anymore bc i get sloiled :(
@@RealBasil143 why are you reading the comments before you've finished the video? (Or why were you, rather.)
Why tf you gotta spoil the game like that? Rude as hell
@@iguessyoucouldcallitconten8568 hey, sorry, but I was just giving my opinion on the game. That's what comments are for.
@@alexs.7956 you can give your opinion and not spoil it for people
Was expecting this to be a wholesome video of a child who had a rotting pumpkin for a head but was still alive and still got love.
NOT WHAT I GOT AT ALL
I thought the same thing
SAME TBH 😭
I thought so too.
I expected something like that. Not the "wholesome" part, and not the "and still got love" part, but that it would be about a living guy with a pumpkin for a head. My expectations were like the Wizard of Oz character "Jack" who first shows up in the 2nd book.
@@101Volts Yeah, me too since I've watched too many of Manly's videos to even think that this is wholesome.
Fascinating. Disturbing, but fascinating. The medical accuracy of a decaying corpse combined with the psychosis of the mother makes for a great story. The father just wanted everything 'to go back to normal' and decides to 'just go with it' until the mother 'snaps out of it' and never dose. In the end, I think it's a tale of the refusal of owning up to what happened.
Not really a game, but a really good story.
I just noticed this is indeed not a game at all after reading your comment
Yeah, I wouldn't really call visual novels games, but I don't know what else they could be classified as. I think they're just a little too niche to be considered their own thing.
@@SeymourDisapproves Visual novels are visual novels. We dont call Movies multiple pictures with Sound playing along. We dont call books paintings of Symbols that have a distinct meaning to us. And we dont call visual novels Text with pictures and Sound.
800 likes!
I'm disappointed in Batman for letting things get this bad.
Lmao 🤣🤣
Lol
Holy pumpkins, batman!
She probably said "Martha" behind the scenes. That's why he lost all his willpower to make things better
F in the chat for robin he got ran over and instead of a proper burial he gets this shit
At about 49:55 Manly says "...I'm not gonna bother reading this, just gonna scroll slowly through it. If you find anything interesting, you're welcome to just pause the video."
This right here is *exactly* why he's the only person on youtube I trust to handle games like this. Normally I have to spend a few minutes carefully frame-by-frame poking through the blur of the content being skipped through, but Manly actually knows that some of his viewers might be interested in things that he himself doesn't feel like bothering to read, and that's all the difference. Big respect.
I feel so bad for the daughter. The fact that she has to endure all this just to keep up the charade.
It also doesn’t seem like this is the first time she’s had to pretend she’s okay for the sake of their family image considering the arguing.
This also seems it’s in the 40’s and 50’s so that’s another layer of trauma
This story really creeped me out. I had an elder sister who was disabled since birth and she unfortunately passed away. By God's grace, she was able to live longer than the doctor had expected. She passed away peacefully on my parents' bed while they were cleaning and changing her diaper. After my sister's passing, I had a hard time coping with the loss of my family because I was very young and I started getting very paranoid and I had nightmares of alternative situations that my parents would've kept the body as it decomposed in the house- much like how this game's story went. I'm lucky to have never experience something this and that it was all just a dream but if something like this happened to a family, I wouldn't know if what I would feel would be pity or disgust- or both.
Im sorry you had to go through loss at such a young age, I hope you’re doing better now
I hope you are doing better too. How are you now?
Feel sorry for you. Hope you are doing better now
Your nightmares seem terrifying, hope you’re doing better..
My condolences, OP, may your sister rest in peace and your mind be free... 🕊
Nun: "Do you want some pumpkin pie?"
Daughter: "Am I a joke to you?"
The fact that they made the decomposition process realistic made this so much more jarring. The bloating is the part I was dreading the most and they described it so well. Absolutely horrifying.
There's something so horrific about the bloating stage. The descriptions legit made my stomach turn.
@@errortryagainlater4240 Yeah when the game started to describe the bloating I was pretty surprised. They definitely did their research like they said.
@@TransmutedCuppyCake sorry if I'm sounding stupid but what's the bloating stage
@@maniacgreen8609 Not at all! The bloating stage is this on phase right after the body stiffens up the first time (rigor mortis). The bacteria in the body and/or any pests that have been decomposing the body build up so much waste that it makes the body literally inflate with gas and bile. That was the part in the game where all of a sudden the son was gushing fluids, it had hit that stage.
Usually it’s just gas though, not sure where the black ooze was coming from but possibly the gamemakers had been looking at animal decomposition with cows, usually bile like that comes from a ruptured stomach of an animal that had been left out without any protection from the shade.
@@TransmutedCuppyCake the writer is a premed student and so would know a lot about human body decomposition. Maybe they just added the fluid for added horror-disgust factor? Or some humans also do have that happen and not just cows?
This hits home hard, after a year spent begging other family members to notice my grandfather’s very obvious signs of late stage dementia and not write everything off as him just being a bit tired. My surviving family had a better ending than this, but even after he was hospitalized twice and could spend entire days not knowing who we were, there were people who still maintained it was just lack of sleep and he would bounce back.
Probably an unintentional metaphor, but still a strong one.
How are you now? A child word should be respected, not ignored. I hope everything is solved for you now.
Same but my father and Lewy body dementia. Late 40s early 50s. My childhood effected, but yeah no he’s not sick bc he “looks healthy” 😃. I hate doctors, they rather listen to a sick man than his wife and daughter.
Well. Thats one way to find out you weren't the favourite child.
Boy moms, amirite?
Oh really? The police get a complaint about a terrible odor and a missing child and they don't ask to see the kids? Or inspect the house? Yeah. Okay.
The missing complaint comes after. The odor I can get
@@gamewizardthesecond I don't really understand your reply. The police at the door literally asked about the missing kid after discussing the smell complaint.
Painfully accurate, I'm afraid. There are too many moments in real life where cops don't investigate further unless their hand is forced
Yeah, it's not uncommon for police to be positively unhelpful in situations like these.
Well sense they have a huge yard I'd have to think they'd be far enough away for nobody to get the smell
“Bring me some embalming fluid” FOUL. THAT WAS FOUL.
Just like the son.
@@Marispider CRYING RN
@@miniatureenthusiast1218 JUST LIKE THE DAUGHTER
@@Marispider ENOUGH
@@miniatureenthusiast1218 just like how the daughter begged her parents to stop-
Just think how much of this story could have been avoided if everybody wasn't operating under the "keep family matters private" attitude of the era. Disgusting.
I mean it makes sense tho, but I wouldn't expect you to understand....
@@welpimf0cked654 It makes sense to let your child's body rot in your house to preserve your reputation?
@@criminalscum7272 well yeah
@@welpimf0cked654 ?
@@eater_of_plastic4189 ?
this was really well written. The characters were well done, sure we could have seen more of the father as manly stated; but I don't think it's terrible like this.
I feel bad for everyone really, the mom was driven insane; although it's hard to be sympathetic to her in the final scene where she is straight up okay with murder. You can sort of see her getting there with her violent outbursts, but just yikes. Even still, it was insanity, not malice.
The father just... broke down, I feel like there should have been more leading up to it, agreeing wth manly on the point, but it was done on a short schedule, so we got what we did.
And of course poor little Gloria who.... had no blame in any of this, along with the other child right at the end.
(Note, feeling bad does not necessarily mean I think they were good people, or did the right thing. It means I recognize they were not bad people at heart, who deserved this fate, not that what they ended up doing wasn't terrible.
@Liru Akerima It was set in the early to mid 1900's, you can tell by their clothing and there was *much* more emphasis during that time on men and women's roles that are emphasized here.
@Liru Akerima Didnt glorias brother got killed by the fathers car? First ever car was ~1885 (ca. 1 century before back to the future xD) invented and they started being relatively common in the early 1900s if my memory serves me right. And there was the picture of the perfect family through tv and radio.
They even say they are a "nuclear family", so, after Second War for sure.
@Liru Akerima Looked about late 1940s, early 1950s. The clothing, hairstyles, furniture and products they used pretty much point to around those two decades.
@Commieblin same
oh THATS why it’s medically accurate
Anubis would know lmao
Pumpkins don't work for head transplants? I should've known!
Part of what really makes this eerie to me, aside from.. well, everything, is that some of the descriptions remind me of what I've been told about the state of my grandma's house after she was found dead a couple months back. The smell, the bugs, it's all eerily accurate to what I know. If the house in the game was abandoned it'd fit the bill. I love how accurate the devs went with this, it makes it even more disturbing
This game really highlighted Manly's voice acting abilities omg
This game was really freaky and almost scary due to how realistic the denying of death is. The mother and father’s reaction in the story and denial that had came with it is almost to scary to be true. This game was really interesting a psychological horror game indeed.
Me: Ok, scenario time. Your son has a pumpkin for a head and is decomposing rapidly, what do you do?
My Grandma: chuck him in the trash.
Me: WHAT WHY?
Grandma: it’s gonna stink and have a big mess
Me: BUT IT’S YOUR SON
Grandma: *shouldn’t have had a pumpkin head then*
your grandma sounds fun
At least your grandma is more reasonable than the parents in the story lol
Grandma doesn't fuck around lmao 😂💀
lmfao your grandma doesn't give a shit about her son's hypothetical pumpkin head
@@errortryagainlater4240 damn right
''did that hurt?''
'''not as much as being run over''
IM DIEING BYE
So was the son
Timestamp?
So did the son
21:03
Oh yeah, like the son?
ngl this one hit way too close home for me. My mother suffers from a very rare mental disease and I can draw parallels between their actions. I'm still shaking and an old trauma has been revived. Great story!
hope you're doing well, or better! much hugs
I hope you’re doing okay! Lots of love
Wish you're doing well!! Lots of love💕
I hope you are doing better as well and heal and get the support you needed!!
This is 100% a story about parental favoritism.
It absolutely screams it to me.
_"If you have to guess whether or not you're the favorite kid, you're not the favorite."_
Anyone with siblings can attest to this feeling, the sensation that no matter what you do or no matter what your sibling does there is some form of preference to another sibling. Where if your parents were forced into one of those stereotypical, SAW-tier catch-22's where they had to pick only one kid and ship the others off to a glue factory or something you know they wouldn't pick you.
The fact that the mother spends all her time with a legitimate decaying corpse and the father just sort of accepts it but also is incredibly distant...all of this is beaming headlights to the actual story going on.
beaming headlights
As someone who just took an exam on basic legal medicine and forensic thanathology, i agree its pretty accurate.
Is it called thanatology because of Thanatos?
And disturbing
@@savapavlovic3956 actually its called thanatos because of thanos, the comic book villain, this is because hypocrates observed that sometimes and for no apparent reason corpses can just spontaneously turn into dust. (Yes, its named after Thanatos)
Okay, so what really got me was the sound design. The maggots during the dream? Absolutely made my stomach churn. Ugh. Kudos to the devs for such disgustingly excellent sound design.
And honestly, the time period they chose for this visual novel? Perfectly fit. Appearances were everything, the husband worked (and cheated) while the wife ran the house and raised the children. Parents word was trusted over their children, which makes sense why there were only phone calls, and the mother was so easily able to get the school to believe her over her daughter. And the officers believing the wife's "oh, my children are sick, everything is just happening at once, and my husband is so busy working, I get no help!" Back then, it was very likely for women to be believed if they put a story like that! Sympathy would get you very far (clearly).
I just wish Gloria had thought of crawling out the window at some point. Though what she'd do afterwards would be iffy. 50/50 running to a neighbor would possibly result in them bringing her home. Poor child.
The mother: “My son has been feeling under the weather lately”
Manly: “and under the ground
I'm kinda glad the medical accuracy was only in text, I can't imagine how horrible it would be with more graphic artstyle :0
I agree we didn't got much info on how the father gave up so quickly, I was expecting him to run away for cigarretes (?)
Yeah just imagining this with Resident Evil 2 (remake) levels of gore is just... euuughhh
He definitely felt responsible for his death. And maybe his Christian family pride stopped him as well
Horror media that delves into family abuse or domestic violence is the only thing that truly scares me these days. I can handle gore, but seeing Gloria desperately try to run away from her crazy mother and her neglectful father made me bawl hard.
Years later, the Daughter is endlessly interviewed about this for a Netflix documentary.
I am glad they had done research into the subject and done things properly instead of doing what most do... Really hope they continue working on games. Would love to see more from them.
Yeah of it was anyone else the kid would have been a skeleton on day 10
@@KalisShort wait, people assume the time it takes is shorter then normal? BEFORE THIS GAME I THOUGHT IT TOOK A YEAR
@@lifesucks3514 Pumpkin Eater's writer here! As mentioned in the afterword, how quickly decomposition takes depends on many, many factors. I am not a forensic expert, so I did my best with assuming due to the various factors in the story (Low humidity, average temperature, etc). A book I used as reference when writing is "Dead Men Do Tell Tales", where the quickest the expert saw human to near skeleton decomposition was two weeks due to a hurricane. It can take years if flies or microbes are unable to access the body to break it down.
I think I'm gonna be sick. I didn't want to watch this but I got interested in the story because of how well written it is and I hope the daughter would be saved. Your voice was amazing at reading things, as it always has been, and it made this disgusting experience really good.
21:02
Mom: "Im sorry for using that fly swatter on you! Did that hurt?"
Manly: "Not as much as being run over"
Me: *wheezing as I choke on my lemon tea*
This is by far the most terrifying game I have ever seen and also the most stomach turning.
Really? 🙄😆
@@JunkyardGod Non ironic emoji user, opinion doesn't count.
@@JunkyardGod Yes, really. Are you OK?
@@JunkyardGod games with extreme gore aren't as hard, because they're clearly only fiction even extreme gory fiction. This however is somewhat realistic. Such behavior is sadly realistic for humans and thats what makes it disturbing. Even if the art isn't really terryfying, but the storytelling is really good especially with manlys va.
@@garderork339 I do like the storytelling but to consider it "the most terrifying" ? Right.
Mother: "Do you think something went bad..?"
Manly : "Honey...our SON went bad 😐‼️"
I never thought a visual novel could make me audibly dry heave and gag-
The description of the decomposition process is so viscerally disgusting, the mental break of the mother is so disturbing, and the pain of the daughter is so gut wrenching-
This makes my stomach CHURN-
Phenomenal job developer!
I'm not sure if her brother talking was real or her hallucination. It's horrifying to think that he'd be suffering even in the afterlife
If the game had more paranormal elements the kid would be a great candidate to be trapped as a spirit:
- is a child
- died suddenly and violently
- body not properly laid to rest
- body treated as if still alive
Considering the amount of stress that the daughter was under and the collapse afterwards, it was most likely a hallucination.
@@sadrabbit53 it's easy to forget how depressing the concept of a restless spirit actually is :-(
There were maggots in her food... I doubt she ate much...
So probably spent at least 6 days barely eating at all, stressed, exhausted and having to bear her parents delusions. It was an hallucination, I think. Poor girl...
@@sadrabbit53 imagine he is alive but cant talk or move just think try to scream but fail
Ugh this is so sick. My stomach is turning. Even though it's obviously some kind of digital scan of pencil and watercolor, the human element of the story really helps elevate the imagery and bring out that emotion of disgust. A lot of horror goes for quick scares, but its forcing you into increasing tension and discomfort that really gets me personally.
It would have been refreshing if we had a scene where the mother broke down because she couldn't find a distinct mark or scar on the other boys body that would be on her son's.
It is a replacement body and I would expect this woman who took such tentative and attentive care of her sons corpse would at least fond and reminisce about a birthmark that he had or a scar he still had on his body from hurting himself in an accident (besides the obvious one) during her psychotic spiral.
Usually denial is the first reaction when a family member or a child dies, especially in this extreme case, and as usual with psychological thriller/horror tropes the character who has suffered the most to this tragedy is going about their life like everything is fine. However with how far gone the mother is I would expect after a couple of days with the new body that she would find something on that poor kids body that should or shouldn't be there as oppose to her son's body. This would bother the mother a lot. . . .A LOT, to the point that it may snap her out of her delusions completely or briefly until she thinks that the body should look exactly like her sons. I would have like to see how the devs played with that scenario because it actually happens in real life.
Wait. Actually happens in real life? Please explain. 😳
But they just recently killed the child, so the mother wasn't able to spend a lot of time with the "Son's New Body", but yeah, I agree! That would be a cool concept!
@@rayw.6677 When ppl go into a psychotic state such as this and to this extreme will but rarely try to find a replacement child to alleviate their grief, but once they've found that replacement and have been with it for awhile they will notice that the replacement child, whether it be a doll or another child is missing something that should have or shouldn't be on the child or dolls body. Women especially experience this, and will even go as far as sneaking in and stealing a baby from the maternity ward or nursery just so they can have a baby that looks just like their deceased child. Some go as far as killing or accidently killing a woman who is pregnant by performing a botched C-section to have a child that might possibly look like their deceased child. It's rare for it to happen and usually such extreme cases are kept on the hush due to a *very* binding gag order but it does happen. You can ask any psychology professor or psychiatrist, they study cases like these, especially a forensics psychologist.
well that was a "bit" too much to say so myself...
@@RoyG.BivDevoe This is reminding me of that Bible story in King Solomon's time when one woman smothered her baby to death, so she switches her dead child with her roommate's child.
As someone who's really into true crime and knows a bit about decomposition, i can say this is very accurate. It draws similarities to a lot of cases, well in the sense of insanity and how someone turns. Also in a way reminds me of Ed Gein and how he wore his mother's skin and pretended to be her because of his desperation and co-dependency on her.
he what now
@@astrobabeyyy
😂😂😂 welcome to one of the inspirations for Leatherface of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre
@@sadrabbit53 the what 💀🔫
@@hi28 you've never heard of Texas Chainsaw Massacre? Ed Gein was a serial killer and possible cannibal from Wisconsin, he lived with his mother up until she passed and he went crazy, starting killing women and skinning them to make furniture and accessories and wearing their skin and faces, and made bowls out of skulls, he was then later the inspiration for Leatherface
@@hi28 horror movie. texas chainsaw massacre. leatherface is the killer, makes masks from his victims
It's interesting how at first glance the ending seems to be kind of happy for the daughter - she escaped death after all, and successfully talked to the police, her parents were arrested, and she finally got out of the house she hated so much... But if you look into it the ending is not happy at all. She ends up in an orphanage with no family members which she probably desperately needed in this situation and who could actually support her - after touching one of the policeman she even says "this is her first time in a while touching a warm body", clearly implying that she needs a supporting, familiar adult in her life right now... which she does not meet. Instead she ends up in a (since it's the 40's/50's and the treatment of children is different than today) probably cold, unaffectionate home with people she barely knows, and children who bully her about her "smelling bad", the only people she can talk to are the nurses, but let's be honest, they have to take care of tens/hundreds of children and probably don't have time to fully support this one girl... She also lost not only her brother, but also her parents basically all at once, after the accident everyone who used to be supportive and nice to her suddenly starts to belittle and question her (her mother does not even believe her about the death of her brother and tries to pretend everything is normal, this must've been extremely confusing and painful for her when no one believes her), she ends up kind of blaming herself for the son's death (she at some point says that "maybe if they weren't playing next to the road this wouldn't have happened" i think), she witnessed the death of the neighbor's son and survived an attempted murder - all of which are traumatic events. The next thing is more of a theory/my own interpretation but: the nurse seems to be bullying her as well? I mean, it was said that the crime was very talked about in the neighborhood, so surely the pumpkin on the head of the son must be a well known thing? Why would the nurse specifically bake her a pumpkin cake? I mean, I know it was supposed to be an accident but isn't it weird that of all cakes she baked specifically a pumpkin one? The chances of it being an accident were really low. I like to believe in the theory that the nurse did it to traumatize her as well, which would make the orphanage experience even more tragic than it already was. In conclusion all of those events are basically traumatic for this girl and she seems to have no way of coping. With so many things happening to her she could honestly end up suffering a similar fate to her mother, becoming mentally ill and suffering dissociation and denial of the whole situation as well as severe ptsd, or similiar terrible things. It's just so sad to see her go from basically living a dream life with her family, friends and little brother, laughing and having fun in the flashbacks, to being a broken child in the current situation.
I don't think so maybe the Nun Doesn't know about her fear of Pumpkins. Since "ya Know"
Just let me cope man :(
Also- she did say that the Nun was the only one nice to her and the times known about mental trauma isn't as advanced as it is now.
This is my when my pumpkin head rapidly decomposes. Happens a little too often.
I won't lie. This is me when my pumpkin head rapidly decomposes.
Same bro, gotta change it every few days, especially because Christmas is coming up
I appreciate the irony in this. They lost one child, but if they would have grieved and moved on, that would be the only casualty. I don't know if the father would even go to jail and if he did not forever since it was clearly an accident. They'd pick up the pieces and moved on. Now, because of it, the whole family fell apart.
Also, yeah, the mom really dod act like the type that really dots on their son more than the daughter. I wonder what would be if the roles were reversed
Trauma just changes a person i guess, although it seems that the story is set in the 1900s(?) i wish the whole family got therapy after the accident
This type of accident is somewhat common and I've heard of it happening several times on the news, at least in my country. Never heard of a parent being charged for it. I think the police ensures it was an accident and then nothing else happens, because it's caused by distraction, not by neglect. And the game is set in like 1950s I think, (when in my country you could kill your wife if you found her cheating and only get 3 years in prison because she was cheating) so the dad definitely wouldn't go to jail if he brought the kid immediately to the hospital.
@@blammer Probably around 1953 - 1954, really.
@@101Volts The mom mentioned listening to The Lone Ranger on the radio and it was on the radio in 1933.
@@blammer i think it'll be a little hard for the whole family to go anywhere tbh
I’m a Med student, so seeing accurate portrayals of this is quite refreshing-even if the son is the opposite of refreshing lol. Only thing that really got me was imagining the maggots, it’s one of the only things that grosses me out irl, but i stomached it because this story is just that stomach churningly good
Ugh, this is still *rots* me to my core sometimes. Greatly done novel, really gets my guts swirling.
Ayeeeee
Yeah my *head* feels really dizzy
Well played. Take my like you son of a bitch.
it really gets your skin thin
I was so scared it made my skin "pale."
this is probably one of the best visual novels ive seen in a while, the storytelling grabs your attention so well
No but this really felt like a criminal podcast I'm horrified
@Scott's Precious Little Account they didnt say they didnt like it? i personally felt the same but i really liked the video
I think I‘m fine with most descriptions of the decomposing stuff, but something about bugs and maggots nestling and eating away and wriggling around in served food just hits different in my tummy :‘)… also, poor Gloria… I felt so relieved her will didn’t break. The NERVE of that nun to serve her pumpkin pie though- (yeah, she probably didn’t know any better… but just DAMN, that poor girl!!!)
Tbh same. I didn't actually watch it all, skipped 10 seconds ahead while paused to get the basic vibe.
I literally have a zombie OC that deals with some notable decomposition problems, that I detailed pretty well (not medically accurate tho)
Could not read the bits with maggots everywhere- in the home, in the food (also the food being rotten. Just ew)