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Thanks, and agree - from what I’ve read/heard, it’s not disabling it as much as ‘toning it down’ a bit so (for instance) the LKA isn’t quite so aggressive. Keep up the great work1
Whether the lane keep assist is a sound or a vibration it needs to be toned right down - it is far too aggressive. The intelligent cruise control on the other hand is very good - subtle movements.
Thanks for the video. Many of the commentators on Tom's and your channel are real Seal owners, often existing Telsa, BMW or Mercedes owners, so they have pretty high standards for how these things should operate. Are you able to include screen shots for the Seal UI to do what you are describing in this video? The Atto 3 does not appear to operate exactly the same as the Seal. For example, disabling the sound for the speed warning?
Hi mate can you make some improvements on your sound system I mean what ever you swing we can hear the little bit of re-sound it’s making as we want to see your complete video bcse if this we are not enjoying your complete video
I guess the question everyone wants to know is do you own a BYD Seal and if so you can confirm that when the changes are made that you recommend they are saved and the process does need to be done every time you start the vehicle. If the vehicle does not save the changes, then an update is required, so they do save once select like the Atto 3 does.
"Simply not true. Just isn't true" Dude..I have a seal and I can promise you those settings do NOT stick. I have to change them every time I start the damn car and I've been yelling at BYD about it since before Christmas. I notice the software in one of your other vids looks very different to mine though. For example, I don't have an option to set the ISLI threshold in the TSR menu, only to turn ISLI off or on. Can you post a screenshot of your software version screen?
I admire people who go to the effort of making UA-cam videos. But this guy is not respecting comments from people who actually own a Seal, he only owns an Atto 3 and is assuming the Seal is identical. And he doesn't need to take our word for it, there are countless other UA-camrs who have demonstrated that these settings don't stick, including Tesla Tom.
Is there a new or plan from BYD to let owners at least to stick our preferences? Keep them saved... (Lane assisst on vibration, and ISLC -ON and ISLI - OFF) If every time we start up tur car we must confir everything over again...this sitiation will become utterly disappointing... Hoping a solution to at leasy as I mentioned before, owners can at least saved islc on and isli off...
I’m a huge fan of yours, I have an ATTO 3, but when I turn off the sound to just vibration, it works but it comes back next time I drive. 🤷🏻♀️I don’t unintentionally drift, I live regional and not driving that much! I love my BYD, and I love your videos! I have the flashing speed limit, but I still get the lane assist sound, not just vibration
To me the simplest would be to allow you to set the ADAS as you prefer and save them, and then for every startup have a warning come up that says “The following safety systems have been selected off……..Press or to change.” That requires a conscious effort to acknowledge but only needs one button press. These requirements are just the power trip of pointy-head bureaucrats who ‘know best’ and think they need to protect people from themselves.
It seems like this is not specific to BYD, all modern cars has the same issue, and it is a deal breaker for me personally. Can't the car manufacturer offer a variant which is NOT ncap 5 stars and allows ALL the safety settings to be saved? I will gladly pay more for such model which is not ncap 5 stars!
Agree the Atto 3 def remembers ADAS settings. Mine has been relatively beep-free for months. No idea about the Seal. Likely a firmware issue. Why don’t the ppl arguing about what the Seal can/can’t do compare firmware versions? I am also not happy with Atto LKA after last update, its performance has reduced.
The lane Keep.. Grate Idea.. But there are many places in my area were the lines are BAD... Either Two Center lines (where old ones Not Fully Removed) and I know EVERY time I drive in this area but the Wheel will Grab trying to tell me am I out of the lines ... I Like the lane Keeping But need to find a option that will stick to stop this Wheel Grabbing... My other Issue.. The car will tell me if I am driving over the speed limit from the Map Data.. (with all the New Roads and Sub division) this is often on longer correct (I Miss my Side Loaded Google Maps 😭) Is there a option where the car will disregard Map Data and Use its Camera Data for speed limit alerts?? Love My Atto 3 (mine is Green) and also wave to any BYD I see.. Hope to see you waving back!
So, LANE ALERT with vibration, ok, however regarding the SPEED ASSISTANCE, how can we choose flashing the icons on the screen instead of the Beep alert??? Which opción we have to choose to get this? Thank you very much
Guessing we are still at the point where the Seal has these annoyances and they require silencing after every switch on? Looking to get a demo car but not being able to switch off or silence most of that dross permanently could be a show stopper if it hasn’t or isn’t being addressed. My model S can be fully silenced and it permanently saves the settings and it’s also NCAP 5….and it’s nearly 6 years old….so why can’t BYD?
Ian, if I set up the "Lane alert " in Vibration, and the "Inteligent Speed limit Information" OFF , Will these two options be retained/saved in the car ??
Thank you for adding some common sense. So much misguided info getting around. Ive had those settings you recommend since day 1 and its no trouble at all.
BYD ATTO 3. 3 weeks ago my infotainement display asked me to install ota 1.7,which i did.(Did not receive info by email from BYD yet.) Since then the LKS sometimes does not work, beeps only, vibrates only or vibrites and beeps togheter. My car setting is beep only. My parking assistence system is become unreliable.Park in spot in front of garden beds no warning of being to close to plants. Return to the car, switch the car on ; parking alarm comes on with beeps, red and yellow lights flashing ,very puzzling. Contacted BYD Melbourne and was told make a service booking we can accommdate you 1st of February. Love my ATTO 3.,but no great fan of BYD Australia. This is sommething to lookout for you in the near future.
@willymosselmans2675 have the same issue on our Atto 3 since the 1.7 update. Front bumper sensors are hit of mis. Not sure about the rear sensors. Sounds like a software issue, which is better than a hardware issue. Just need BYD to roll out an OTA update. Also, what's with the replacement pedestrian warning sound. I didn't completely dislike the previous tone warning sound, just a little too loud. It's now been replaced with a low-level sound similar to when you press the brake pedal at low speed, you can hear the disc pad on the rotors, now we have a similar "scraping" sound for the pedestrian warning. Sounds pretty crappy if you ask me. Another fix required BYD.
best thing you could do is roll back the update. you can put the old software on a USB and re-install the older version till they fix the problems on 1.7
So the car remembers the vibration setting. The problem though is the ELKA which defaults to ON each time and this beeps at you and cant be silenced without turning it off. I can deal with the vibration but definitely not the beeping. Infuriating.
Are you talking the pedestrian warning sound? That's also a myth. They didn't mute it, they changed it to something more subtle. If you turn your inside fans off and put your window down you can hear it - it's like a white noise/static noise. Also there is a new option to turn it off completely if you want. It's all under Settings / Vehicle Settings / Notifications.
Just remember that ANCAP is only an ADVISORY body. ANCAP has no regulatory power as that belongs to the federal government through its Road Vehicle Standards Act 2018. Under this Act it administers the Australian Design Rules (ADRs). Vehicle safety standards are enforced through the ADRs, not ANCAP. Anything in the ADRs that cover audible or haptic warnings for the safety features causing concern to BYD owners (or any other model for that matter) that are instanced in the many video reviews on UA-cam will generally be embedded in the technical requirements adopted by United Nations Regulations, or other international standards which are often deemed to be equivalent. In this specific matter you will find a note in the Regulations that clearly states this: "Actual conditions and features in the real world should not result in false warnings or false braking to the extent that they encourage the driver to switch the system off." A legal implication of this is that REMOVING the warning system (eg removing a fuse) would breach the regulation, but that a vehicle manufacturer should include the facility to TURN OFF the warning system where it failed real world practicalities, and the rules do provide for "deactivation." More information on "warnings" can be found in Australian Design Rule 98/00 for anyone interested.
I don't agree with your conclusions. You state that we won't be receiving the means to turn of these systems... yet, we do have the means. The problem is that the settings are not persisted.
It has to be assumed that anyone who buys a ByD or any other BEV doesn't have research skills or the ability to learn. It was a scam 15 years ago and still is. Good luck with your channel.
Sadly you have no capacity for research yet want to post on matter you are clueless about. FYI electric cars came on the scene well over 100 years ago. Were it not for cheap petrol/gasoline coming into the market back then, cars today could have been very different, and battery technology would be far superior to what it is today.
@@remakeit2628 Bless. After working in R&D electronics and sharing jokes about phase B testing I took a diploma in horology. I built various prototypes to realise people's dreams from Motorola startac battery life to 3D TV. Mostly concentrated on industrial Capacitor testing and industrial measuring. I started out building recon engines half a century ago. It's only the chemistry and energy density potential that has developed. I'm ok with your suggestion but as with BEV monologues on UA-cam it's something that drowns in very shallow debate. I'm still driving an ice car that was built 24 years ago when I quit electronics, complete with startac and a tape deck.
Seriously why are you posting your extreme opinion on a site that owners want to use for reference. Go away and post your irrelevant views on the many YT sites that think the same as you. You can make all the assumptions you like, however it is clear from the evidence you provide you are locked into an ageing view of reality.
@@krossbolt4100 My 4.0 V8 does 200mpg if I apply the same efficiency multiplier used for the BEV scam. It's going to be a bun fight for the compensation. A decade in R&D electronics was enough to have heard the phase B testing joke a thousand times.
@@theodavies8754 horology? Sounds like it’s TIME for you to stop trying to debate EVs then seeing as you’ve watchmaking skills…and that’s about it. I haven’t seen a valid point made by you other than nonsensical “Daily Mail reader” opinions backed up by zero evidence. But hey, the world is full of you….so we better just accept the planet is doomed and all get V8 petrol motors and care less about the environment….climate change? Yeah it’s a scam….the earth is flat too don’t you know 👍
Thanks, and agree - from what I’ve read/heard, it’s not disabling it as much as ‘toning it down’ a bit so (for instance) the LKA isn’t quite so aggressive. Keep up the great work1
Whether the lane keep assist is a sound or a vibration it needs to be toned right down - it is far too aggressive. The intelligent cruise control on the other hand is very good - subtle movements.
Yes I agree
Thanks for the video. Many of the commentators on Tom's and your channel are real Seal owners, often existing Telsa, BMW or Mercedes owners, so they have pretty high standards for how these things should operate.
Are you able to include screen shots for the Seal UI to do what you are describing in this video? The Atto 3 does not appear to operate exactly the same as the Seal. For example, disabling the sound for the speed warning?
Hi mate can you make some improvements on your sound system I mean what ever you swing we can hear the little bit of re-sound it’s making as we want to see your complete video bcse if this we are not enjoying your complete video
I guess the question everyone wants to know is do you own a BYD Seal and if so you can confirm that when the changes are made that you recommend they are saved and the process does need to be done every time you start the vehicle.
If the vehicle does not save the changes, then an update is required, so they do save once select like the Atto 3 does.
"Simply not true. Just isn't true" Dude..I have a seal and I can promise you those settings do NOT stick. I have to change them every time I start the damn car and I've been yelling at BYD about it since before Christmas. I notice the software in one of your other vids looks very different to mine though. For example, I don't have an option to set the ISLI threshold in the TSR menu, only to turn ISLI off or on. Can you post a screenshot of your software version screen?
I admire people who go to the effort of making UA-cam videos. But this guy is not respecting comments from people who actually own a Seal, he only owns an Atto 3 and is assuming the Seal is identical. And he doesn't need to take our word for it, there are countless other UA-camrs who have demonstrated that these settings don't stick, including Tesla Tom.
I am getting a Seal today will check it out
Is there a new or plan from BYD to let owners at least to stick our preferences? Keep them saved... (Lane assisst on vibration, and ISLC -ON and ISLI - OFF)
If every time we start up tur car we must confir everything over again...this sitiation will become utterly disappointing...
Hoping a solution to at leasy as I mentioned before, owners can at least saved islc on and isli off...
Thank you. This information will be very useful when I get my Seal later this month.
Loving your channel along with Sky Perspective and now Ludicrous Feed, great information on BYD.
Tom's great, will look at Sky Perspective
Yes, I am subscribed to Sky Perspective. I too like his videos
I’m a huge fan of yours, I have an ATTO 3, but when I turn off the sound to just vibration, it works but it comes back next time I drive. 🤷🏻♀️I don’t unintentionally drift, I live regional and not driving that much!
I love my BYD, and I love your videos! I have the flashing speed limit, but I still get the lane assist sound, not just vibration
Hello
I have recently bought BYD SONG CHAMPION. Do you know how to turn off vibration
Steering wheel sometimes is vibrating
@@optimistislam8860 it’s just giving you a subtle warning that you’re exiting the lane. I personally think it’s a great safety feature.
To me the simplest would be to allow you to set the ADAS as you prefer and save them, and then for every startup have a warning come up that says “The following safety systems have been selected off……..Press or to change.” That requires a conscious effort to acknowledge but only needs one button press.
These requirements are just the power trip of pointy-head bureaucrats who ‘know best’ and think they need to protect people from themselves.
good point, Thank you
Following as my Atto 3 arrives at the end of the month. Also because ADAS is necessary for 5 star ANCAP rating all new cars have similar 'problems'
It seems like this is not specific to BYD, all modern cars has the same issue, and it is a deal breaker for me personally. Can't the car manufacturer offer a variant which is NOT ncap 5 stars and allows ALL the safety settings to be saved? I will gladly pay more for such model which is not ncap 5 stars!
Great video, Thank you and happy New Year.
vibration is the most effective.
For sound, what if people's music is too loud and cannot hear the warning.
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Agree the Atto 3 def remembers ADAS settings. Mine has been relatively beep-free for months. No idea about the Seal. Likely a firmware issue. Why don’t the ppl arguing about what the Seal can/can’t do compare firmware versions? I am also not happy with Atto LKA after last update, its performance has reduced.
The lane Keep..
Grate Idea..
But there are many places in my area were the lines are BAD...
Either Two Center lines (where old ones Not Fully Removed)
and I know EVERY time I drive in this area but the Wheel will Grab trying to tell me am I out of the lines ...
I Like the lane Keeping But need to find a option that will stick to stop this Wheel Grabbing...
My other Issue..
The car will tell me if I am driving over the speed limit from the Map Data.. (with all the New Roads and Sub division) this is often on longer correct (I Miss my Side Loaded Google Maps 😭)
Is there a option where the car will disregard Map Data and Use its Camera Data for speed limit alerts??
Love My Atto 3 (mine is Green)
and also wave to any BYD I see..
Hope to see you waving back!
Well done , you have good videos on BYD
So, LANE ALERT with vibration, ok, however regarding the SPEED ASSISTANCE, how can we choose flashing the icons on the screen instead of the Beep alert???
Which opción we have to choose to get this?
Thank you very much
Guessing we are still at the point where the Seal has these annoyances and they require silencing after every switch on?
Looking to get a demo car but not being able to switch off or silence most of that dross permanently could be a show stopper if it hasn’t or isn’t being addressed. My model S can be fully silenced and it permanently saves the settings and it’s also NCAP 5….and it’s nearly 6 years old….so why can’t BYD?
Ian, if I set up the "Lane alert " in Vibration, and the "Inteligent Speed limit Information" OFF , Will these two options be retained/saved in the car ??
Thank you for adding some common sense. So much misguided info getting around. Ive had those settings you recommend since day 1 and its no trouble at all.
Just asking if it's possible to have aircon on while charging Atto 3 or Dolphin. Thank you!!
BYD ATTO 3. 3 weeks ago my infotainement display asked me to install ota 1.7,which i did.(Did not receive info by email from BYD yet.) Since then the LKS sometimes does not work, beeps only, vibrates only or vibrites and beeps togheter. My car setting is beep only. My parking assistence system is become unreliable.Park in spot in front of garden beds no warning of being to close to plants. Return to the car, switch the car on ; parking alarm comes on with beeps, red and yellow lights flashing ,very puzzling. Contacted BYD Melbourne and was told make a service booking we can accommdate you 1st of February. Love my ATTO 3.,but no great fan of BYD Australia. This is sommething to lookout for you in the near future.
@willymosselmans2675 have the same issue on our Atto 3 since the 1.7 update. Front bumper sensors are hit of mis. Not sure about the rear sensors. Sounds like a software issue, which is better than a hardware issue. Just need BYD to roll out an OTA update.
Also, what's with the replacement pedestrian warning sound. I didn't completely dislike the previous tone warning sound, just a little too loud. It's now been replaced with a low-level sound similar to when you press the brake pedal at low speed, you can hear the disc pad on the rotors, now we have a similar "scraping" sound for the pedestrian warning. Sounds pretty crappy if you ask me. Another fix required BYD.
best thing you could do is roll back the update. you can put the old software on a USB and re-install the older version till they fix the problems on 1.7
@@Paul-ow9dd Hi Paul, I intent to send my comments to Byd. Would you give me permission to include your comments. Thanks.
So the car remembers the vibration setting. The problem though is the ELKA which defaults to ON each time and this beeps at you and cant be silenced without turning it off. I can deal with the vibration but definitely not the beeping. Infuriating.
Thanks and well said. They should not have muted the sound emulator.
Are you talking the pedestrian warning sound? That's also a myth. They didn't mute it, they changed it to something more subtle. If you turn your inside fans off and put your window down you can hear it - it's like a white noise/static noise. Also there is a new option to turn it off completely if you want. It's all under Settings / Vehicle Settings / Notifications.
@@benjohnson5897 Hi Ben it is so subtle not even the cat moves out of the way
Just remember that ANCAP is only an ADVISORY body.
ANCAP has no regulatory power as that belongs to the federal government through its Road Vehicle Standards Act 2018. Under this Act it administers the Australian Design Rules (ADRs). Vehicle safety standards are enforced through the ADRs, not ANCAP.
Anything in the ADRs that cover audible or haptic warnings for the safety features causing concern to BYD owners (or any other model for that matter) that are instanced in the many video reviews on UA-cam will generally be embedded in the technical requirements adopted by United Nations Regulations, or other international standards which are often deemed to be equivalent. In this specific matter you will find a note in the Regulations that clearly states this:
"Actual conditions and features in the real world should not result in false warnings or false braking to the extent that they encourage the driver to switch the system off."
A legal implication of this is that REMOVING the warning system (eg removing a fuse) would breach the regulation, but that a vehicle manufacturer should include the facility to TURN OFF the warning system where it failed real world practicalities, and the rules do provide for "deactivation." More information on "warnings" can be found in Australian Design Rule 98/00 for anyone interested.
Spot on! Replacing the sound with vibration or flashing icons solves the issue.
Thanks for doing proper research on this and providing it here.
I don't agree with your conclusions. You state that we won't be receiving the means to turn of these systems... yet, we do have the means. The problem is that the settings are not persisted.
So very glad I cancelled my Seal , took delivery of my Tesla M3 this week love it.
Tesla M3 definitely has a sports car feel. I do like driving them.
It has to be assumed that anyone who buys a ByD or any other BEV doesn't have research skills or the ability to learn.
It was a scam 15 years ago and still is.
Good luck with your channel.
Sadly you have no capacity for research yet want to post on matter you are clueless about.
FYI electric cars came on the scene well over 100 years ago. Were it not for cheap petrol/gasoline coming into the market back then, cars today could have been very different, and battery technology would be far superior to what it is today.
@@remakeit2628 Bless. After working in R&D electronics and sharing jokes about phase B testing I took a diploma in horology.
I built various prototypes to realise people's dreams from Motorola startac battery life to 3D TV.
Mostly concentrated on industrial Capacitor testing and industrial measuring.
I started out building recon engines half a century ago.
It's only the chemistry and energy density potential that has developed.
I'm ok with your suggestion but as with BEV monologues on UA-cam it's something that drowns in very shallow debate.
I'm still driving an ice car that was built 24 years ago when I quit electronics, complete with startac and a tape deck.
Seriously why are you posting your extreme opinion on a site that owners want to use for reference. Go away and post your irrelevant views on the many YT sites that think the same as you. You can make all the assumptions you like, however it is clear from the evidence you provide you are locked into an ageing view of reality.
@@krossbolt4100 My 4.0 V8 does 200mpg if I apply the same efficiency multiplier used for the BEV scam.
It's going to be a bun fight for the compensation.
A decade in R&D electronics was enough to have heard the phase B testing joke a thousand times.
@@theodavies8754 horology? Sounds like it’s TIME for you to stop trying to debate EVs then seeing as you’ve watchmaking skills…and that’s about it.
I haven’t seen a valid point made by you other than nonsensical “Daily Mail reader” opinions backed up by zero evidence. But hey, the world is full of you….so we better just accept the planet is doomed and all get V8 petrol motors and care less about the environment….climate change? Yeah it’s a scam….the earth is flat too don’t you know 👍
Australians are buying Chinese BYD cars?
🤔🫣