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Rumours is my all time favorite! Also think Golden Hour by Kacey Musgraves is a fantastic sounding album! Engineered by Craig Alvin en mixed by Shawn Everett!
Watching Marc and Ken is sweet - reminds me of my mentor and how we switch roles over years but still look for that approval out of the corner of our eye
I remember partying with Fleetwood Mac or being at my friends condo in 1974 at Mt. Hood Community College when they played a gig there. I think it was like a prom or something. Nice folks. Years later I met Lindsey Buckingham at Cherokee in 1983-84 when I was doing a horn session with then young Brad Guilderman there just after his day in. Those were the days.
So much music today can be traced back to this album but what I keep hearing is just how much the original performances have this ballzy energy compared to the recreations. Still an important exercise with the original engineer, love it.
That was awesome. You guys must have had a ball that day. Got the course and it's brilliant. Thanks very much MDN you Rock!!!! Warren, you know you Rock and Ken......you were there when Rock was invented. Hats off yo you all
Comes really close! Marc is such a talented guy. The only thing missing is the tape sauce. Hopefully machine learning will help nailing that part some day. Really enjoyed this video.
Looks like a great course. I should day that the sound and production is excellent. The drums do seem a little bit too prominent for me. However, they would probably "glue" into a better perspective when the whole track would get mastered.
When I saw the title I thought BULLSHIT !!!!! Sorry, forgive my impertinentence. I have watched this 5 times on a loop. Is there more of this your willing to share on this ??? WOW AMAMAMAAMAZING 😮
@ catarino medina. SO true. I think the environment is what really made those classic recordings. Now we can EASILY create an amazingly clean sound for very little. But that is all it is, often no heart. Playing the room is another level and must be amazing to do.
man I just did a tracking session in studio A, my 3rd time at The Village over the years, just love that facility, so much history. The table offered choice of the Village or East -West(c), I chose Village because I love the Neve.
This sounds really great, but the acoustics are not nearly as bright as on Rumours. Ken was right, they really do need +12dB at 15k! Now if only we can get to hear this final product without it being compressed to death in mastering! I've got the Rumours remaster on 45rpm LPs, and it's the most incredible sound ever. Very dynamic!!
You may already know but they boosted high end during tracking to combat the loss of high frequency information along the way. But I would also agree that it is missing that slinky sheeny high end that is synonymous with a FM record of that era.
@@Producelikeapro I"m going to watch some of those classic singles/albums,producer profiles now.I Think your channel is killer.Have a great weekend!(i Know i will)
Love this. I used to be way more heavy handed with eq until I started watching mixing tutorials. I’d boost 10 db and like it and then back it off because 10 db must be to much right? Since then my mixes have been less exciting. Going back to using eq like I use to. Trust your ears more than the forums and tutorials. Lesson learned.
Whose mixing tutorials were you watching? Honestly everything tutorial we make with Professionals, who get paid to mix, they are quite aggressive with EQ indeed.
@@Producelikeapro I noticed that. Wasn’t commenting on yours particularly. More of when I first started trying to learn about mixing techniques I was watching pretty much any video I found
Marc and Warren are my two favorite studio prophets. I could however do without Warren's incessant cursing 😁 Time to finally sign up after consuming hundreds of hours of invaluable content!
that bass and those drums you can recognize right away. the guitar sounds a little bright for me, and a little thin. but the drums and the bass sound killer, and the overall is fat, round, glued, and vibrant. i'm guessing you didn't use tape - it sounds a lot cleaner than on the album. i keep telling people, it is the performance, but not necessarily. it's the sound, first of all. i mean everything - including the performance - translates to sound. and if the sound isn't right, a lot of moments in the performance won't translate, it's like they were never there. conversely, if the sound is right, you just hit a note, and it just goes in. and the performance - the playing - will always be directed by the sound. so that's half of the battle, right there. it's amazing how a completely different song, with completely different palyers, can sound like fleetwood mac, just based on the sound. i feel the art of sound, which was a staple for great bands, is largely lost today. great job!
Hey I got a question for Marc. I've watched lots of his videos here and he seems to be really in the know on mixing and such especially the Fleetwood Mac Rumors drum sound. So I have located the stem tracks and when I play them it does sound just like the original release track. My question is regarding the snare. On close inspection, it seems like the snare has polarity inverted. So I'm wondering whether maybe it appears this way perhaps because the snare bottom might be slightly ahead of the top or.. is it indeed inverted. When I flip the polarity on the DAW the snare does sound thicker. So do you think this was a conscious choice to invert because it was preferred or was overlooked and happened to be inverted. Also, is there any time you prefer inverting the snare? I worked in Sausalito on Bridgeway in the 80s and early 90s and did go into the studio once to meet with George Lynch when he was there doing Sacred Groove. The studio was like a magic place full of fun toys!
Sounds cool, to me however as a big Fleetwood Mac fan I would like to point out that Steve Ferrone was Stevie Nicks and Christine McVie´s drummer on their solo tours in the past, were they used to play a lot of Fleetwood Mac material, so I guess it´s easy for the drummer to "sound" like Mick Fleetwood as it was not the first time. The sound is cool and it has some Fleetwood Mac vibes but it sounds more like the Eagles to me.
Was the stereo mix for the middle part of the video (4:35 - 5:55) sourced from the master output of the console? It sounds very different from the stereo mix created in the home studio (8:00 - 8:30).
@@fernandoperdomomusic Could be. I know he also had one of those Hohner (I think that's the brand) viola-style basses for the Tusk album, possibly the Rumours sessions as well.
@@Producelikeapro The power of all those Fleetwood Mac hits somewhat overshadowed the unique guitar parts and very unique tones. The band was a sum of its parts, but maybe now we can really appreciate the individual contributions of each member.
And Leslie cabinet, too. Also, on electrics, Ken would tape on a lavalier mic (to the pickguard area IIRC) to capture the string attack. 'Silver Springs' has all of those elements going on at once, plus volume pedal swells (of course paralleled w/ the lav. mic, which was fed straight to the console).
Just have to say how much I appreciate you guys. Warren is great, of course, but I just discovered MDN a couple days ago and man, super helpful content on all his videos. Also great to see how expert you two are and you also seem like good humans to hang out with. That's all. A+
My favourite Fleetwood Mac albums are those that came before, for me the Peter Green era was the proper Mac, the best, before it became an Americanised middle of the road dross-fest
At 8:31 you can see a part of fender 1 and fender 2 sinewaves representation on the tracks what it seem peaking big time and chopped off. What's the deal with that? Cheers
There's so much about hitting Tape that affects the way he EQ'd. However, I have noticed people are very afraid to do things that professionals do because they 'look' at the phase etc and don't realise that often the shift is actually something the mixer enjoyed. It's a big topic!
Plus, if you Hugh EQ above the actual fundamental of the instrument you get a soft high end lift of where the acoustic high end would sit and of course he was joking, however, he was pointing to the fact that he is NOT afraid to use EQ aggressively.
What are some of your favourite albums?
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Rumours is my all time favorite! Also think Golden Hour by Kacey Musgraves is a fantastic sounding album! Engineered by Craig Alvin en mixed by Shawn Everett!
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Rush 2112, Pink Floyd DSOTM, Carol Cane Tapestry, Queen NATO, Black Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Molly Hatchet , Ram Jam.......
Huey Lewis Fore!
@@lacesonic it's a masterpiece
This is why big studio can never really go away ….this studio sounds amazing
Thanks ever so much for sharing that!
Watching Marc and Ken is sweet - reminds me of my mentor and how we switch roles over years but still look for that approval out of the corner of our eye
Thanks ever so much! Yes, both wonderful guys!
God, that signature Fleetwood wooly snare sound is lush!
YES! Wonderful
I remember partying with Fleetwood Mac or being at my friends condo in 1974 at Mt. Hood Community College when they played a gig there. I think it was like a prom or something. Nice folks. Years later I met Lindsey Buckingham at Cherokee in 1983-84 when I was doing a horn session with then young Brad Guilderman there just after his day in. Those were the days.
Thanks ever so much for sharing Gregory!
So much music today can be traced back to this album but what I keep hearing is just how much the original performances have this ballzy energy compared to the recreations. Still an important exercise with the original engineer, love it.
... and now we all are Ken Caillat! Can't wait to dive into the whole movie. Must have been quite a trip for you guys.
Thanks ever so much!
That was awesome. You guys must have had a ball that day. Got the course and it's brilliant. Thanks very much
MDN you Rock!!!! Warren, you know you Rock and Ken......you were there when Rock was invented. Hats off yo you all
Thanks ever so much Joey!
Thank you making this Vid & was nice to had met you @ NAMM.
priceless video. thanks warren. hope to learn more about your new studio very soon. your new plans etc exciting news
Thanks ever so much!
Videos like this are truly exciting.
Thanks ever so much
To this day, even with digital elements added in, those drums sound huge.
Yes, indeed!
"Use those APIs buddy" 😂😂😂
Haha indeed!
Wow! I grew up on these FM records, and I’m blown away by how well you guys have really copped the “feel of the sound”.
Amazing.
Excellent work.
😎👍👍
Comes really close! Marc is such a talented guy. The only thing missing is the tape sauce. Hopefully machine learning will help nailing that part some day. Really enjoyed this video.
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Looks like a great course. I should day that the sound and production is excellent. The drums do seem a little bit too prominent for me. However, they would probably "glue" into a better perspective when the whole track would get mastered.
Absolutely phenomenal. I need the DVD so I can watch it from beginning to end the whole thing not just bits and pieces. Please
It’s downloadable or streaming from the site!
@@Producelikeapro awesome!!!! Thank you!!! I can’t wait to watch Marc in action!!!!
@@uriel-heavensguardian8949 you'll love it!
12db at 15K, Season to Taste - love it! Thanks for the fly on the wall video.
Thanks ever so much Craig!!
I’ve never seen Marc Daniel so happy!
the Pro Tools screen in black and white sounds much more vintage
Haha indeed!
This is awesome! Thank you so much for doing this! ❤❤❤
Thanks ever so much!
Bought this IMMEDIATELY!!! You had me at MDN, but then threw in STEVE FERRONE!! TAKE MY MONEY!! Thank you Warren Et Al!! ❤
Thanks ever so much
This sounds amazing! Loved the video
Thanks ever so much!
Absolutely nailed it 😮🎉
Thanks ever so much! Good to have the sale producer/engineer and even the exact same console!!
Holly Crap!!!!
THIS IS AMAZING! Thx soooo much for that!
Thanks ever so much!
Awesome stuff here, gold!!
Thanks ever so much Tim!
Sounds freaking great guys!
Thanks ever so much!
When I saw the title I thought BULLSHIT !!!!! Sorry, forgive my impertinentence. I have watched this 5 times on a loop. Is there more of this your willing to share on this ??? WOW AMAMAMAAMAZING 😮
Haha maybe? I'll talk to Marc!
so fun!! thanks for all this!
Thanks ever so much
This was great! Thank you for sharing the magic.
Thanks ever so much Brian!
@ catarino medina. SO true. I think the environment is what really made those classic recordings. Now we can EASILY create an amazingly clean sound for very little. But that is all it is, often no heart. Playing the room is another level and must be amazing to do.
man I just did a tracking session in studio A, my 3rd time at The Village over the years, just love that facility, so much history. The table offered choice of the Village or East -West(c), I chose Village because I love the Neve.
Wow! Thanks ever so much for sharing that!
My goodness. Déjà vu! I can hear the room, which is very recognizable. Sounds so authentic and freekin fantastic!
Oh lovely ! ❤❤😊
Thanks Dwayne!
This sounds really great, but the acoustics are not nearly as bright as on Rumours. Ken was right, they really do need +12dB at 15k! Now if only we can get to hear this final product without it being compressed to death in mastering! I've got the Rumours remaster on 45rpm LPs, and it's the most incredible sound ever. Very dynamic!!
You may already know but they boosted high end during tracking to combat the loss of high frequency information along the way. But I would also agree that it is missing that slinky sheeny high end that is synonymous with a FM record of that era.
Another great video !
Thanks ever so much
Steve Ferrone. My all time drummer hero.
Yes, truly an amazing drummer!
Room temperature too is important. in the old days things would have been running a bit hot. would have also contributed to the recordings.
I❤ this so much!
Thanks ever so much!
@@Producelikeapro I"m going to watch some of those classic singles/albums,producer profiles now.I Think your channel is killer.Have a great weekend!(i Know i will)
@@cosmicdrifter287 Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it!
The names Ken Calliat and Richard Dashut on the backs on Fleetwood mac records made me want to be a producer.
Agreed 100%!
Shhhhh with the Beyer 88. Don't give away all the secrets ;)
Such a great mic!
Love this. I used to be way more heavy handed with eq until I started watching mixing tutorials. I’d boost 10 db and like it and then back it off because 10 db must be to much right? Since then my mixes have been less exciting. Going back to using eq like I use to. Trust your ears more than the forums and tutorials. Lesson learned.
Whose mixing tutorials were you watching? Honestly everything tutorial we make with Professionals, who get paid to mix, they are quite aggressive with EQ indeed.
@@Producelikeapro I noticed that. Wasn’t commenting on yours particularly. More of when I first started trying to learn about mixing techniques I was watching pretty much any video I found
im a huge fan of steve ferrone, hes so cool
Steve is an amazing drummer and a lovely fellow!
@Randy A agreed 100%!
Step 1 to a kick-ass drum sound: Hire Steve Ferrone
It’s a pretty amazing start!!
man said 12db at 15k LOL love it!!!!!!
Yes!!
Marc and Warren are my two favorite studio prophets. I could however do without Warren's incessant cursing 😁 Time to finally sign up after consuming hundreds of hours of invaluable content!
Hello! What are your thoughts between IK Multimedia iLoud MTM Powered Studio Monitor vs Yamaha HS7 . Which ones would you prefer for a home studio ?
They mentioned a Sony lavalier mic was used to track the acoustic guitar, do you know which one that was?
that bass and those drums you can recognize right away. the guitar sounds a little bright for me, and a little thin. but the drums and the bass sound killer, and the overall is fat, round, glued, and vibrant. i'm guessing you didn't use tape - it sounds a lot cleaner than on the album.
i keep telling people, it is the performance, but not necessarily. it's the sound, first of all. i mean everything - including the performance - translates to sound. and if the sound isn't right, a lot of moments in the performance won't translate, it's like they were never there. conversely, if the sound is right, you just hit a note, and it just goes in. and the performance - the playing - will always be directed by the sound. so that's half of the battle, right there. it's amazing how a completely different song, with completely different palyers, can sound like fleetwood mac, just based on the sound. i feel the art of sound, which was a staple for great bands, is largely lost today. great job!
Hey I got a question for Marc. I've watched lots of his videos here and he seems to be really in the know on mixing and such especially the Fleetwood Mac Rumors drum sound. So I have located the stem tracks and when I play them it does sound just like the original release track. My question is regarding the snare. On close inspection, it seems like the snare has polarity inverted. So I'm wondering whether maybe it appears this way perhaps because the snare bottom might be slightly ahead of the top or.. is it indeed inverted. When I flip the polarity on the DAW the snare does sound thicker. So do you think this was a conscious choice to invert because it was preferred or was overlooked and happened to be inverted. Also, is there any time you prefer inverting the snare? I worked in Sausalito on Bridgeway in the 80s and early 90s and did go into the studio once to meet with George Lynch when he was there doing Sacred Groove. The studio was like a magic place full of fun toys!
Magic
Yes! Pure magic!
Please make Serban Ghenea studio and mixing process video's
Awesome!! Dear Lord grant me the strength and determination to achieve my goal in music production 🙏 Thank you for doing this gentlemen.
Hahaha Thanks Andy!
KM56 SDC Tube condensor on the snare or SM56 (similar to SM57) dynamic mic on the snare with the 451? I'm dying to know!
Sounds cool, to me however as a big Fleetwood Mac fan I would like to point out that Steve Ferrone was Stevie Nicks and Christine McVie´s drummer on their solo tours in the past, were they used to play a lot of Fleetwood Mac material, so I guess it´s easy for the drummer to "sound" like Mick Fleetwood as it was not the first time. The sound is cool and it has some Fleetwood Mac vibes but it sounds more like the Eagles to me.
Was the stereo mix for the middle part of the video (4:35 - 5:55) sourced from the master output of the console? It sounds very different from the stereo mix created in the home studio (8:00 - 8:30).
sounds great but I was always under the impression John used an Alembic bass on Rumours
For sure, though not exclusively. He had a handful of basses from which to choose.
Yes, he used the Alembic as one of the basses. It does seem Ken doesn't have a recollection of it being his 'main' bass.
@@Producelikeapro interesting. Maybe the Natural P Bass?
@@fernandoperdomomusic Could be. I know he also had one of those Hohner (I think that's the brand) viola-style basses for the Tusk album, possibly the Rumours sessions as well.
Which snare drum was this recorded on? It sounds great
I believe it was his signature snare!
One super important element in their sound is the use of a TAPE machine. The tape played over and over, shedding the oxide!!!!!!!!!
Did you watch the interview with Ken? They mixed from the back up! So all of the basics were fresh! They had to realign everything!
Here’s the interview link:- ua-cam.com/video/szAi65_nkEo/v-deo.html
Thanks for link , will check it out.
Warren, just bought this course today, was the song recorded in 48Khz just as the multitracks are in?
Yes, we didn’t change the sample rate
@@Producelikeapro Thanks! By the way, clip 5 can only be viewed in 360p.
This is Smithsonian material. Sounds amazing !
Thanks ever so much!
Some famous guitar tones are easy to replicate, but Lindsey Buckingham’s tone is not one of them. The plate reverb helped.
Yes, wonderful guitarist, great singer and of course an incredible songwriter
@@Producelikeapro The power of all those Fleetwood Mac hits somewhat overshadowed the unique guitar parts and very unique tones. The band was a sum of its parts, but maybe now we can really appreciate the individual contributions of each member.
And Leslie cabinet, too. Also, on electrics, Ken would tape on a lavalier mic (to the pickguard area IIRC) to capture the string attack. 'Silver Springs' has all of those elements going on at once, plus volume pedal swells (of course paralleled w/ the lav. mic, which was fed straight to the console).
What about Aphex 602 ?
801 Live
can anyone tell me what this little api console thing is called?
🙂
Thanks ever so much Audrey!
Just have to say how much I appreciate you guys. Warren is great, of course, but I just discovered MDN a couple days ago and man, super helpful content on all his videos. Also great to see how expert you two are and you also seem like good humans to hang out with. That's all. A+
Thanks ever so much Britt! You Rock
👌🎶💎☀️
Thanks ever so much
Please don't tell me the entire course is in black & white...
Haha no! Marc loves his artistic license!
🎉
My favourite Fleetwood Mac albums are those that came before, for me the Peter Green era was the proper Mac, the best, before it became an Americanised middle of the road dross-fest
Is Todd Kessler in this session? I hear "old fashioned way" sprinkled in there.
At 8:31 you can see a part of fender 1 and fender 2 sinewaves representation on the tracks what it seem peaking big time and chopped off. What's the deal with that? Cheers
Why not actually play a FM tune when demonstrating this? Weird.
12 db at 15 k lolololol
Yep! Onto Tape!
There's so much about hitting Tape that affects the way he EQ'd. However, I have noticed people are very afraid to do things that professionals do because they 'look' at the phase etc and don't realise that often the shift is actually something the mixer enjoyed. It's a big topic!
Plus, if you Hugh EQ above the actual fundamental of the instrument you get a soft high end lift of where the acoustic high end would sit and of course he was joking, however, he was pointing to the fact that he is NOT afraid to use EQ aggressively.
What I want to know is why is he wearing his sweatshirt inside out?
thats my style! doing it for years
10 mins?
Yes, it's a excerpt from the main 4 hour course.
that poor kid in the back at 5:28 … what kinda terrible music must he attend … 😂
Haha because he adjusted his hoody? Haha He was having a blast! Huge Steve Ferrone fan!
Shame it wasn’t in Colour
Doesn’t really have the sound.. it’s too modern sounding.. good try
The only thing missing is the Tape during recording mixing and also mastering
@@TransistorLSD yes, indeed
Uh...why? Just because is not good enough. Sound sucker rooms were the worst.