In my experience, the Zumo having a ton of VIA points will usually result in it keeping to the route you wanted even in the case of a detour/recalculation. If you only have the Start and End point and somehow it recalculates, it will make a bee line to the end and totally ignore your hard work. I usually plot a bunch of intermediate via points, so it may skip one or two but pick back up somewhere along the line. This is how I crafted my routes in BaseCamp. I would create a route with a lot of waypoints and then convert the vast majority into shaping points, but leave real stops in there for places I really wanted to stop at. YMMV. Thanks for the video. I too love Scenic but have an XT for long trips so as not to have all eggs in one basket.
@@Swizzenator Hey no worries! When you create a route in Basecamp each spot you put in the route is a Waypoint. Think of them as ‘must go thru’. If you right click on it and choose ‘don’t announce on arrival’ it becomes a shaping point or a Via Point. If you are creating the route in Scenic, you have the choice of Via or Stop. You can have a LOT of shaping/via points in a route but only about 25 waypoints/stops. My best practice is to put a large number of shaping/via points in a route so that if the Garmin decides to recalculate or if I hit a section of closed road, it won’t trash the rest of the route. It’s a lot to take in and I made a ton of mistakes early on.
Hi mate, I have had exactly the same problem! I plan my routes with Kurviger and only with long tracks, import that into Garmin Explorer , let it appear on the Zumo and convert it to navi route. If I would go off route (because of road blocks) and allow to re-calculate it would do the thing your saying, but not always only to the very end point. Your writing has now possible helped in trying to put in shape (VIA) points. I just wanted to thank you for this hint. And BTW, this is possible Garmin trying to pull legacy stuff on a new device and therefore creating this ridiculous behaviour. Cheers
An excellent, if long, video on inserting waypoints into a route (in order that any "recalculation" of route such as when encountering a detour does not cause Zumo to create a bee-line route to Endpoint) is by Joseph Byrne called "Garmin BaseCamp. How to Create a Route from a Track for Mac"
Hi ... GSD Thank you for the steer on getting gpx files across to the Garmin XT I'm exporting in the following steps 1) Export GPX files from Mappite to my Android Phone 2) Capture the files using the Garmin Explore App. 3) Send the files to the Garmin Drive App. 4) Sync Garmin Drive to the XT and follow you instructions regarding Tracks and Trips 👍all good stuff Kind Regards CC
Hi, Great video, just got a new Zumo xt watched your video, good information as always, it worked first time no messing, thank you, keep up the good work and the video’s
thanks for the excellent explanation - I see different behavior when exporting from Calimoto which I want to share- using the Calimoto export function requires saving the gpx file on the iPad/iphone, then in the next step share with Garmin Drive - on the Zumo XT it appears not in the track section, it appears in the routes... opening the Calimoto track in BaseCamp and export explicit as a track file and transfer via Garmin Drive then it appears on the Zumo XT in the track section... will investigate further and let you know my findings
Found the reason - gpx file out of Calimoto contains waypoints ( ) routingpoints ( ) and finally trackpoints / ) ...so Zumo puts the file in routing/trip section and routing doesn't work properly as the map bases are different Deleting the waypoints/routingpoints in the gpx file (either manually with an editor or opening in Basecamp and export the track only) forces the Zumo to put it in the track section and you can continue with the steps as Paul recommends
Nice vid, appreciate the fact you filmed it twice and spliced in footage showing the screen. thinking of getting a zumo myself. Are you able to tell the GPS unit to skip a waypoint easy in the case of maybe a road being closed?
Hi. I am sure that you can, i've just not had to use that. Download the online manual from Garmin for the XT and have a look. It's a great little bit of kit, not perfect, but very good.👍
Hi, you'll have to excuse me as I am a bit rusty on the workings🙈 From my ageing memory , doing it this way stops you getting told every so often you have reached the way point. I have not had any navigation mess ups using this method and not got lost(yet!)
Great vid. Newbie GS question here. Just looking at Sat nav. Is the Zumo XT fully compatible with the BMW cradle and Nav wheel? Is it actually the same as the BMW version?
It’s better than the bmw version but you can’t use the whizz wheel . I have done away with the bmw cradle but you can get adapter plates that connect the zumo into the bmw cradle .I’ve done install videos so have a look on my channel . Zumo xt2 is out bigger but more money ???? 🤔
Hi - Zumo all sorted and installed, thanks for the video! With the Scenic app - do you route plot on your iPhone or desktop? Just about to start planning a 4 day trip.
Good Morning Paul, Is there a way to place all your planned routes onto a memory card and then put that into the Zumo so it then reads them. I've tried reformatting, using Basecamp, dragging and dropping straight to card through a card reader but nothing appears to work? Thanks Jay
@@gsd32i Hi Paul, I've tried them for some reason the garmin doesn't see the files on the sd card, I've tried reformatting in the device and it still doesn't see them.🤔
I've done my trips with basecamp and my garmin bmw navigator 6 plugged in via USB. Or directly from the navigator itself but it's a pain in the butt. I don't think the phone app works with the navigator 6, but I want to try.... what's the garmin app called again?
Garmin drive....I use the route planning app called Scenic and it works a treat . I just send the gps file to my Garmin gps and away I go. I can do a days riding over a coffee in the morning.
Nav 6 won't use the Garmin Drive app. Thats only on the newer ones like the XT as I understand it. It uses the on device WiFi. The Nav needs USB or an SD card to transfer routes.
Hello from Tirol in Austria, i have a problem importing a GPX-File via Google-Drive to the ZUMO XT. I can not find the Track in the Tracks-Destiantion. My Track is imported to the tripplanning-tool. How can i change the import-destiantion? Thanks for help!
hi, let me have a look at my zumo and I will get back to you. does your computer say that it has been sent to the xt . I prefer to use my mobile phone to send the gpx files .
I’m sending my GPX1.1 route,track,POI from MyRoute-app via Garmin drive to the XT and it automatically converts the track into the trip for me, so unless I’m doing something wrong which is normally the case 🤣🤣🤣 Then I’m not understanding everyone converting their tracks, the unit does it for you!!! All my tracks appear in my trip planner, that said I’m very new to the XT after numerous Nav6’s… Love your dogs by the way GSD!
@@andybeviere541 just see what it gives you when you go into the garmin to use the route and make sure it goes where you want to go . Sometimes you get 3 versions of the route and only 1 will give you what you want . Just got back from a mini tour of the Normandy landing beaches and it worked well for me . Many ways to skin the cat ( I’ve got 2 cats as well !! )
@@gsd32i just tested it mate absolutely flawless!!! Why Garmin and BMW didn’t work closer to produce this rather than the Nav6 is beyond me!!! Apparently BMW have parted ways with Garmin as a result… Love Normandy….👍
In my experience, the Zumo having a ton of VIA points will usually result in it keeping to the route you wanted even in the case of a detour/recalculation. If you only have the Start and End point and somehow it recalculates, it will make a bee line to the end and totally ignore your hard work. I usually plot a bunch of intermediate via points, so it may skip one or two but pick back up somewhere along the line. This is how I crafted my routes in BaseCamp. I would create a route with a lot of waypoints and then convert the vast majority into shaping points, but leave real stops in there for places I really wanted to stop at. YMMV. Thanks for the video. I too love Scenic but have an XT for long trips so as not to have all eggs in one basket.
Can I ask. . .Whats a VIA/ VIAS points? I've search Google but didnt find my answer. But I'm slooow😂.
@@Swizzenator Hey no worries! When you create a route in Basecamp each spot you put in the route is a Waypoint. Think of them as ‘must go thru’. If you right click on it and choose ‘don’t announce on arrival’ it becomes a shaping point or a Via Point. If you are creating the route in Scenic, you have the choice of Via or Stop. You can have a LOT of shaping/via points in a route but only about 25 waypoints/stops. My best practice is to put a large number of shaping/via points in a route so that if the Garmin decides to recalculate or if I hit a section of closed road, it won’t trash the rest of the route. It’s a lot to take in and I made a ton of mistakes early on.
Hi mate, I have had exactly the same problem! I plan my routes with Kurviger and only with long tracks, import that into Garmin Explorer , let it appear on the Zumo and convert it to navi route. If I would go off route (because of road blocks) and allow to re-calculate it would do the thing your saying, but not always only to the very end point. Your writing has now possible helped in trying to put in shape (VIA) points. I just wanted to thank you for this hint. And BTW, this is possible Garmin trying to pull legacy stuff on a new device and therefore creating this ridiculous behaviour. Cheers
An excellent, if long, video on inserting waypoints into a route (in order that any "recalculation" of route such as when encountering a detour does not cause Zumo to create a bee-line route to Endpoint) is by Joseph Byrne called "Garmin BaseCamp. How to Create a Route from a Track for Mac"
Hi ... GSD Thank you for the steer on getting gpx files across to the Garmin XT I'm exporting in the following steps
1) Export GPX files from Mappite to my Android Phone
2) Capture the files using the Garmin Explore App.
3) Send the files to the Garmin Drive App.
4) Sync Garmin Drive to the XT and follow you instructions regarding Tracks and Trips 👍all good stuff
Kind Regards CC
Wow . Sounds way too technical
for me 😂😂
@@gsd32i Hi ... Again I just followed your instructions they were spot on 👍
Excellent video!! This is an easy way to transfer routes to Garmin without connections and cables. Congratulations
Thank you very much! Ride safe🤪
Great explanation and yet massively complicated IMO. Why does Garmin make things so difficult?
Garmin is a joke. 12 steps to get 1 result. If your lucky.Dead web pages, dodgy software blah blah blah.
Hi, Great video, just got a new Zumo xt watched your video, good information as always, it worked first time no messing, thank you, keep up the good work and the video’s
Glad it helped
Good video! 300 miles and an “early stop”. Sounds brutal to me😮😊
Great video thank you 👍
I'll try this. Garmin always annoys me by changing my route. Thanks
thanks for the excellent explanation - I see different behavior when exporting from Calimoto which I want to share- using the Calimoto export function requires saving the gpx file on the iPad/iphone, then in the next step share with Garmin Drive - on the Zumo XT it appears not in the track section, it appears in the routes... opening the Calimoto track in BaseCamp and export explicit as a track file and transfer via Garmin Drive then it appears on the Zumo XT in the track section... will investigate further and let you know my findings
Found the reason - gpx file out of Calimoto contains
waypoints ( )
routingpoints ( ) and finally
trackpoints / )
...so Zumo puts the file in routing/trip section and routing doesn't work properly as the map bases are different
Deleting the waypoints/routingpoints in the gpx file (either manually with an editor or opening in Basecamp and export the track only) forces the Zumo to put it in the track section and you can continue with the steps as Paul recommends
Thanks - that was helpful. Not sure it was simple!! :)
So you use the Zumo rather than the BMW GPS? How do you mount your Zumo XT on your GS?
I did away with the gps cradle etc and purchased a smaller mounting bracket , much tidier. Check on my bmw playlist there is a video about it .
Nice vid, appreciate the fact you filmed it twice and spliced in footage showing the screen. thinking of getting a zumo myself.
Are you able to tell the GPS unit to skip a waypoint easy in the case of maybe a road being closed?
Hi. I am sure that you can, i've just not had to use that. Download the online manual from Garmin for the XT and have a look. It's a great little bit of kit, not perfect, but very good.👍
What happened to all your waypoints ? Doesn’t it loose them all when turned it from track to route?
Hi, you'll have to excuse me as I am a bit rusty on the workings🙈 From my ageing memory , doing it this way stops you getting told every so often you have reached the way point. I have not had any navigation mess ups using this method and not got lost(yet!)
Great vid. Newbie GS question here. Just looking at Sat nav. Is the Zumo XT fully compatible with the BMW cradle and Nav wheel? Is it actually the same as the BMW version?
Or do you have an zumo install vid please?
It’s better than the bmw version but you can’t use the whizz wheel . I have done away with the bmw cradle but you can get adapter plates that connect the zumo into the bmw cradle .I’ve done install videos so have a look on my channel . Zumo xt2 is out bigger but more money ???? 🤔
@@gsd32i thanks. I’ll find the install vid.
Hi - Zumo all sorted and installed, thanks for the video!
With the Scenic app - do you route plot on your iPhone or desktop? Just about to start planning a 4 day trip.
Good Morning Paul, Is there a way to place all your planned routes onto a memory card and then put that into the Zumo so it then reads them. I've tried reformatting, using Basecamp, dragging and dropping straight to card through a card reader but nothing appears to work? Thanks Jay
Hi, not a fan of basecamp....but have you tried this support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=viCuQqsnlg2kOvcxESjqh7
@@gsd32i Hi Paul, I've tried them for some reason the garmin doesn't see the files on the sd card, I've tried reformatting in the device and it still doesn't see them.🤔
@@JaySalvoUK ok let me have a think just walking my x2 German shepherds 🙈
Does the import but when go to tracks it shows empty. My gpx file is from a converter of a google map
Hi . From the Home Screen which has “where to” and “maps” if you select apps , then tracks , is there nothing in here ?
I've done my trips with basecamp and my garmin bmw navigator 6 plugged in via USB.
Or directly from the navigator itself but it's a pain in the butt.
I don't think the phone app works with the navigator 6, but I want to try.... what's the garmin app called again?
Garmin drive....I use the route planning app called Scenic and it works a treat . I just send the gps file to my Garmin gps and away I go. I can do a days riding over a coffee in the morning.
@@gsd32i thanks!
Nav 6 won't use the Garmin Drive app. Thats only on the newer ones like the XT as I understand it. It uses the on device WiFi. The Nav needs USB or an SD card to transfer routes.
Hello from Tirol in Austria, i have a problem importing a GPX-File via Google-Drive to the ZUMO XT. I can not find the Track in the Tracks-Destiantion. My Track is imported to the tripplanning-tool. How can i change the import-destiantion? Thanks for help!
hi, let me have a look at my zumo and I will get back to you. does your computer say that it has been sent to the xt . I prefer to use my mobile phone to send the gpx files .
I did a video of gpx file transfers and what you need to do....have a look at this.
ua-cam.com/video/5rOTGr2FFx4/v-deo.html
I’m sending my GPX1.1 route,track,POI from MyRoute-app via Garmin drive to the XT and it automatically converts the track into the trip for me, so unless I’m doing something wrong which is normally the case 🤣🤣🤣 Then I’m not understanding everyone converting their tracks, the unit does it for you!!! All my tracks appear in my trip planner, that said I’m very new to the XT after numerous Nav6’s… Love your dogs by the way GSD!
@@andybeviere541 just see what it gives you when you go into the garmin to use the route and make sure it goes where you want to go . Sometimes you get 3 versions of the route and only 1 will give you what you want . Just got back from a mini tour of the Normandy landing beaches and it worked well for me . Many ways to skin the cat ( I’ve got 2 cats as well !! )
@@gsd32i just tested it mate absolutely flawless!!! Why Garmin and BMW didn’t work closer to produce this rather than the Nav6 is beyond me!!! Apparently BMW have parted ways with Garmin as a result…
Love Normandy….👍