BCM vs Daniel Defense: Which is better?
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- Range and table top comparison of the BCM and Daniel Defense platforms. I cover the difference features both BCM and Daniel Defense have to offer, and my opinion of the BCM Recce and DDM4 V7. When it comes to accuracy, reliability, and raw performance I find Bravo Company and Daniel Defense both close, but it the different options the two AR15 manufacturers offer that set them apart from each other. The DDM4 series has more ambidextrous features including an ambi safety and charging handle. BCM offers an ambidextrous charging handle, but not on all AR 15 builds. Bravo Company also only provides a right hand safety. Barrels, bolt carrier groups, and build materials are all high quality.
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The big UA-cam channels have taught me you can't run BCM or DD unless you also have a Geiselle trigger and Primary Arms optic. Is that correct? (tounge-n-cheek)
:) the industry is full of “must have” upgrades, especially with Glocks and ARs. I actually was running factory milspecs in both of these for the review to level the playing field. I almost didn’t even notice not having my Geiselle in my BCM, especially when shooting on the move. Geiselles are nice though. I’m of the “ammo over upgrades” mentality if budget makes me choose. Thanks for stopping by Graham.
@@shootersresourcechannel642 I couldn't resist with two of the "must have" brands in the same video! Thanks for the report.
I love the primary arms 1-6
The pro I'm getting comes with the geiselle trigger and a better charge handle
Primary arms acss reticle is excellent but glass quality is meh, unless you buy glx
Bravo company is founded and owned by veterans and they won’t sell their rifles to law enforcement if they can’t sell those same firearms to civilians. That was a big factor in me choosing my BCM RECCE 16.
@@Thadiesel No I didn’t get the lightweight barrel.
Thank you for this information. I know what one I am buying. BCM
This is a huge constitutional safeguard for citizens in terms of money, lobbying, and corporate competitiveness, legality, and reach. (Not generally a constitutionalist, (more "free thinker", "what could be")but it is the backbone of our country's ethical development. It's the only guide that will work for the kind of great country we are.) Thank you for helping me decide on the right one to choose.-at least for first pick. 👍🏻
100%
So they are anti police and pro civilian?
BCM all the way. Daniel Defense cares about nothing but their sweet government contracts. They work with the ATF and openly support them, which means they openly support the rights of the people being taken little by little. BCM won a contract for the Milwaukee Police Department. The police chief voted in favor of a AR ban, and BCM pulled out of the contract. They will only sell rifles to agencies if the civilians in that state can own the same rifles.
Thats fire I had no idea
Where did you hear about that? I can’t find it online. I have BCM and I love it
That is very important info to me, you've made my decision easy, Bravo it will be. Thank you for sharing that!!
@@mechadogzilla5846 I absolutely love my BCM. I have one on the way for my wife too.
Bravo company from now on. I’ve owned 3 DD products and my uncle works there. I didn’t know BCM supported civilians like that and I will be moving to them as well. Thanks.
Considering Daniel Defense loves to support the ATF, BCM will forever be better, because they make rifles for citizens, not the gubment.
BCM all the way. 💪🏻🤝🏻
D&D helped me make that decision by being pro ATF and anti 2nd Amendment.
I like BCM over DD cause they are just as good but not as expensive.
Good stuff. I like the measured, objective approach to each rifle and what they offer. Refreshing to hear information and not dogma or fanboy type content. Both are excellent choices.
I have had several of both dd and bcm over the years. Only own bcm now. Both make great rifles
Thank you for the review, I agree that both are great rifles. Own 2 DDM4 V7 ar15s and have had Zero issues, I have Timney triggers in both and they are pleasure to shoot very smooth. I was looking for a BCM and couldn’t find one for sale so that’s why I got my second DD M4 V7. Both are great options in my opinion.
Thanks for stopping by Don.
BCM upper is around 900 bucks while DD is 1,500. If they're that close in quality, then the choice to me is obvious.
Jesus Christ is there a gun UA-camr that goes over the actual important details like barrel and bolt carrier material and not just the furniture....
No :)
Subbed up! Great content! Y'all stay safe and keep shooting 🤙
I agree, can’t go wrong with either one.
I love my 14.5 BCM. No regrets. Great video.
Thanks shooterchef
Great video!
Thanks for the video! I've three Im looking at: DD , BCM and Sig Tread
I'm working on selling my tread to get a V7 😂
I go what my heart says, Daniel D. I’ve also own Springfield Saint 556 and Aero Precision M5 308. Never let me down.
Thanks for the great video!
Just pondering which one to buy. In Finnish army we used AK styled rifles made by SAKO called RK.
In platform AR-15 is quite new to me, but as member of Finnish Reservist army I have shot some hundred rounds with it. Many of us have chosen AR-15 platform as I'm going to get and feeling now it will be DDM4A1.
Cheers 🇫🇮
Oletko ollut tyytyväinen DDM4A1 aseeseen ?
Terve Robert!
Ase tuli myöhässä ja sain sen äskettäin. Ampunut en ole vielä, käyn ensin "sisuskalut" läpi 😊
Tuntuu tosi kivalta käsitellä "kuivana". Ajattelin odottaa vielä erva - lupaa (on hakemus vetämässä). 10 panoksen lipas ei oikein riitä rastilla. Todella kaunis ja tukeva ase, sen voin jo todeta.
Oletko hankkimassa?
Ystävällisin terveisin
Petri
I own a couple of BCM’s (Recce-16 and 11.3 pistol) and a DDM4V7P in .300 Blackout. They are all insanely awesome rifles. You can’t go wrong with either brand. I had that V7 16” in Tornado that was awesome too. Traded it for a ATACR that now sits on the RECCE. Nice reviews!
Which do you like the best?
@@bxi1547BCM, D&D is pro ATF 👎💩
Great no-frills review.
Dude channel is looking good!
Thanks Murph!
For me............BCM hands down. Not only a great product, but a solid company!!
They're both so good from a quality standpoint, but a transferrable lifetime warranty for DD is nice.
Transferable lifetime warranty? So it’s covered for defects for life? Even after selling it?
@@sandman9379 Yes, daniel defense has a lifetime transferable warranty. I think from an investment option and getting your money back if have to sell it etc the daniel defense is worth the $100-$200 more. The bcm also has a lifetime warranty, it's technically not transferable but they take pride in their rifles and I hear they will do warranty work even to someone who wasn't the original owner.
Like many, I also.own both. My BCM is a 20" barrel, luth buttstock, 3-12 Bushnell scope. I use it for long range shooting and coyote hunting. With the right 62+ grain ammo, the BCM acheives sub MOA groups at 100 yards easy, all day, taken down coyotes at 300+ yards.
My DD is their M4A1, 14.5 inch barrel with the quad rails. Ive made very few changes to that gun. Its just solid and it runs smooth as butter.
Both are amazing tools
Great review, I love my dd mv7 but have heard great things about bravo company, probably can’t go wrong in this situation
I really appreciate it! They are both solid options, the DDM4V7 is an awesome rifle!
Both are great. Never really understood the design of the DD buttstock. I like the BCM slightly more...just seems more slick/smooth.
I put a geissle enhanced bcg and airborne charging handle in my bcm I know they're not cheap but you cant imagine how much smoother the action is I dont even know what rifle you could compare it with it is really impressive..
Great content and video. I've never owned a DD, but I have nothing but love for my BCM. I noticed on your vehicle it's a Alabama plate, or Auburn to be exact. Do you live very far outside of Birmingham? I live in Vestavia and work downtown.
Currently deciding between a recce bcm 16 and a v7. The prices are within a 100 or so lately I've seen. I do think the bcm buttstock appears stronger, strictly off design. You don't see anyone comparing these outside reddit. Thanks for making the vid! Might just get the v7 and do a bcm pistol lol.
You can’t go wrong with that combo.
You could get the v7 and swap the parts with whichever bcm parts you like? Specially something like a butt stock
@@sandman9379 True Ive ran bcm furniture on my aero and like it alot.
Have a Daniel Defense DDMV7 in milspec brown and two BCM MK2 BFH (pistol and rifle). Great rifles and no plans to ever get rid of them. My other go-to ARs are Aero Precision M4E1 and Midwest Industries 12.5 pistol. Thoroughly impressed with how their rifles perform. Decked them all out with Geissele triggers and Surefire scout lights.
That is tasteful 🤌🏿
Which rifle do you prefer
@@treroney4720 Don’t have a preference. They both perform phenomenally.
Midwest Industries complete rifles should be much more popular. There bang for buck is high.
I have the BCM RECCE and The DD V7 and the DD V11-SLW
I love them all.
Lol
The really like the DD Furniture
All 3 have Geissele SD-E 2 stage triggers
Excellent, thank you.
Thanks for stopping by!
Buying a bcm upper and lower separately is the way to go. It gives you way more options
Nvm upper but Anderson lower
I choose BCM over DD because it was a few hundred dollars cheaper and haven’t looked back since.
Had both prefer the bcm, the stock trigger in the dd is a embarrassment for the price u pay.
I believe both are the top Gold Standard of ARs in every way they can be.
Bcm. What lower are you running? Trigger? I just purchased a setup up. I went quad rail 12ch 16i upper and mk2 lower same 2 tone setup. First one. Super hyped. Rifle is gonna be pretty bar bones for a while. A friend of mine is running a holo sun and magnifier on his ak which I shot and liked a lot. With the quad rail im not sure I wanna do somethin similar or run optic and 45 red dot. Finding a friendship with the rifle is first but down the road.
DD makes the best hammer forged barrels for ARs and BCM makes the best plastic furniture.
I like BCM but I would not categorize them as the single best furniture maker. If it's a preference I can respect another person's preference. But Magpul is just as good.
What do y’all think about DD, BCM vs The Blackout Defense Quantum 2 Ar-15’s?? Any help would be very appreciated!
Can someone tell what they think about DD and BCM vs the Blackout Defense Quantum Mark 2 ar-15s? They all sound so tempting. Especially DD but I wanna know the better option! 😭
Soooo I have multiple daniels. But I bought a 16 inch m lok upper from bcm on my dd m4v1.
They both are in my top 3 ars but I love LWRC as well.
Liked and subscribed, appreciate this video a lot. I was unaware that the BCM was CHF, is that all their barrels? Thank you very much
Thanks so much Dogzilla. No, they offer both. If your after CHF, make sure to pay attention to which barrel, upper, or rifle you buy. They brand their CHF barrels as BFH.. take care and welcome to the channel
Thank you so much for such a prompt, very helpful response. Outstanding! Spent 20 minutes trying to search what BFH actually stands for ... fail lol, but great to know this. Gonna go watch some of your videos tonight to, uh, i dunno, get more impressed? thanks again@@shootersresourcechannel642
You need the Mk2 upper receiver... BFH 16" midlength with 15" MCMR upper and i personally run a CMC flat 2 stage 2lb/2lb trigger with Geissele H buffer and super 42 braided buffer spring in an Aero lower... I also run a discontinued Burris 1.5-8x CQ-Mil scope in ADM QD mount with back up irons. I routinely get 0.5"-0.75" five shot groups. shooting 77 grain OTM's and routinely hit 18" steel silhouettes at 830 yards with the above set up. Today i shot 1MOA with 62 grain M855 GGG ammo. The BCM runs better dirty than my DD V11 Pro and Noveske 18" SPR but that may be because they utilize longer gas systems.
I have Noveske, DD, PWS, Rainier Arms etc... the BCM mentioned above is my overall favorite hands down because of the incredibly accuracy, reliability, and light weight package. This former operator chooses BCM.
Daniel defense customer service and lifetime warranty is top notch. They really go above and beyond with their service.
Daniel Defense is also run by a bunch of anti civilian bootlicking lobbyists.
Both fine rifles . i own a BCM reece and it's hands down best rifle I've shot. But DD nothing to scoff at either .
Bottom line is not one person shooting these are kicking down doors in the sandbox so for home defense or range use these are both stellar options . they also will both last a lifetime . what more do you need ?
You said you have bcm rifle I have a question for you Do you have a enhanced lightweight barrel I'm looking to buy my 1st AR a bcm
I have the enhanced light weight barrel bcm it is really accurate and I’ve never had any reliability issues with it runs great
@@markbean1623 if you didn’t buy one yet I would suggest to go with a BFH barrel. I have 3 BCMs, 2 complete and one with an Aero upper. The cold hammer forged might be a bit heavier but it’s just a tank. The barrel it’s not the ELW so it will stay well cool after 2-3 mags in rapid sequence. The other ones I have are the ELW and are getting hot quicker.
@@markbean1623 one thing to consider when selecting a barrel is whether or not you're planning on running a suppressor down the road. According to BCM's website the ELW barrels aren't recommended for use with suppressors because of a more significant point of impact shift once everything heats up. My understanding is that the govt profile and SOCOM barrel offerings are better choices if running suppressed. However, I can tell you from experience that the ELW barrel balances like a chef's knife, in comparison with the govt profile (which isn't heavy at all either) so it really comes down to whether you want to ever own suppressor, and whether the extra point of impact deviation matters to you.
Question on your BCM rifles is it a BCM lower and Is it a enhanced lightweight barrel or a government profile barrel im looking to buy my first AR15 and i Really like the BCM THANK YOU ..
Mine is the government barrel profile
Looks like the DD was a complete DD rifle. But the BCM had an Aero Precision lower? So it was a factory BCM upper compared to a DD complete rifle?
Thanks for the informative review. I’m considering both of these and at this point , I’m about to flip a coin tho locally, DD seems more available. What about the factory triggers, do you prefer one over the other? I’m looking at primarily defensive usage so lighter isn’t necessarily better imho
I used the factory triggers during the comparison and both triggers are very similar. Neither really distinguished themselves which is why I didn’t really mention them. You can’t go wrong with either gun. Thanks for stopping by Stephen.
Can't speak to DD (and still have to figure out how to configure a set up in the changing winds of WA law) but, the trigger us the best I've ever felt maybe tieing my mom's heritage 22, but it's not as light as the wheel gun; but is an extremely short throw.
It may be a case of convincing myself of money well spent, so I may be bias but it seems perfect for a home defense shot and is worlds above any of the many handguns I've shot (again, with the possible exception of the hair-trigger heritage 22 wheel gun)
Not sure about the re-engagement obviously
I own both and they're expensive for what they are. BCM only makes a few parts and rely on vendors to make their parts. I also like Aero.
Me just getting the 🍿 ready!
Thanks for the support!
I got 2 dad's (m4a1 and mk18) and a bcm 16" qrf.
That bcm, even with the quad rail, is really light. I will say however, my DD's are notably more accurate. But my bcm shoots most ammo under 2 moa which is still plenty good with cheap range ammo.
Either way I'd recommend these to anyone buying for the first time. You buy either you will not regret it.
Respectfully, you should change your opinion and not recommend DD to anyone.
This is what I've heard most often and has been my personal experience with the two. They are both fantastic rifles of similar quality, but DD barrels are usually more accurate.
You having two dads has nothing to do with this, please keep the identity politics to a minimum. (Jokes, autocorrect I'm sure.)
@@abstractapproach634I caught that too
James, great video. Ever up for a head-to-head comparison for an AERO, PSA, or similar versus the BCM or DD?
Yeah man, anytime. I think either would make a good comparison.
From the looks of it, It's a comparison of a complete DD rifle vs a BCM complete upper on an Aero Precision lower with BCM parts to finish it out.
Correct..all BCM but the milspec Aero lower, I can’t imagine a milspec BCM lower making a difference and I saved a couple hundred building it that way.
If you could choose one for your first AR which would it be? I’m on the fence between LWRC and DD. BCM is looking pretty good at this point too.
Solgw m4-76!!!!
I chose BCM because of price at the time, but you can’t go wrong with any of them.
Also consider a Smith and Wesson M&p sport 2 and spend your extra money on ammo and training. You'll feel much better that way and you'll have a fully capable rifle especially for enrty level 👍 as a tip, don't stress red dots so much either, get your gun, a good white light to attach and a sling and then rock out!
Geissele,noveske and lmt over lwrc.and if you can find them radian.I have one,best rifle I have.bcm and dd are mid tier.shit ain’t no different than spikes tactical except for barell and bcg
Bcm
You've got a white F150... and a BCM... a long lost brother from another mother
I just picked up a b c m this morning it didn't come with front or rear side apertures and I had to buy a magazine. That being said it is a beautiful gun I just have to wait to f****** days to pick it up
Was waiting for your truck to take a round
If you were thinking that was close you should see some of my other videos. In the shadow systems xr920 video, I’m shooting from inside the f150. ua-cam.com/video/NODNj09F8A8/v-deo.html
i have been a DD fanboy for years. I recently was in the market for a new gun, so I figured i'd finally give the BCM a chance. I ordered it exactly how I wanted it (I like the customizing options BCM gives you). I received it, it was absolutely dripping in oil, which prompted me to take it apart and clean some of it off. Took out the BCG (lots of resistance), the firing pin was jammed so tight into the bolt that it was not allowing the bolt or firing pin to move freely. I immediately emailed them (you can't call them anymore), and after a couple days and a few emails back and fourth, they decided to send me a whole different BCG, and let me send the other one back. I received the "new" BCG, and although it's much better and functioning, it has a bunch of carbon build up where the back end of the bolt rides in the BCG. There is NO way that these are new BCG's. Both have signs (the first one was way more noticeable) of wear where the run into a magazine. They say they're test fired, I get that... but with WHAT? 2,000 rounds in a machine gun?
On another note, the DD feels way more robust. I do have the RIS 3 and my buddy has the MK18, so those rails are just extremely well built, rugged as it gets, but it's honestly a night and day difference. With the DD, you can tell that it will go to war with you, the BCM, I just can't say it feels all that robust. I actually would say my Zion feels a bit more robust than the BCM.
Just so we're clear, I don't hate the BCM, I just don't feel it should be anywhere near discussions of being on par with a DD. You can tell they're going for two totally different achievements. Would I buy a BCM over mostly everything else? Probably. Would I compare it to DD, Absolutely not.
Gtfoh. Bca doesn’t send new guns w used bcg’s. Slow ur roll dd fanboy.
If you're having a hard time deciding buy both. I did and do not regret it.
Nice book colleciton
My Daniel defense hand guard qd sockets are to big I haven't found a qd sling mount that will stay in I have tried geissele, magpul, and others I finally bought a bcm m lok qd socket to fix the problem other than that I have a hard time choosing which rifle I like the best my bcm is lighter because of the tapered fluted barrel. My Daniel defense I ended up putting all bcm furniture on it which I usually do with all my rifles.
Does BCM or DD have different recoil impulse of other rifles with the same length gas system?
I’d like to here this answer. Do they feel/shoot the same? I need details lol
Generally the DD will be softer shooting. However, some BCMs do come with their comp, which will help with recoil.
What about ammo? Same for both?
My BCM 16 inch MCMR has a wobble unlike my Daniel Defense which has a rock solid tight. Do you have the same experience?
About to get the BCM Recce 14.5, are you sure it has a chf barrel? I don’t see that anywhere.
You have to buy the BFH model if you want hammer forged
BFH is Barrel Forged Hammer. Their Mk2 receivers made me a believer too. exceptionally accurate set ups.
I ended up getting the 14.5 BFH in MLok.
Am I crazy or isn’t that a BCM upper on an Aero Precision lower?
Love the video by the way…
Nope its def an aero lower
Thanks for the vid , I have those 2 and the dd is way more gassy, feels like a carbine system ,even the colt socom soots softer than the dd ,
Try a SOLGW M76 or M89. (I have one of their 13.7”). The thing is a freaking sewing machine. You won’t be disappointed. Mine had me throwing rocks at my BCM😂
Is that east Alabama Gun club?
I understand both are great but the nod would have to go to Daniel Defense for reliability as they pin their gas blocks whereas BCM uses high temp thread locker and set screws.
Nothing about locked set screws are less reliable. If they were BCM wouldn't use them.
Very informative for me...
I’m choosing between the BCM 14.5 Recce, and the LWRC IC DI 16” mlok currently and can’t decide what to go with. Anybody have experience with both?
I have that same LWRC in sniper grey built like a tank, I love it
The LWRC is a superior rifle, so if it's not much more expensive, I'd definitely go that route. Also, 14.5 P&W is a pain in the ass to deal with if you want to change something out.
Pound for pound BCM. Has a better pistol grip with a latched cover (not just a cap that can get lost) and a better stock my opinion and that
Gold standard bolt carrier group, and of course the price!! but then again, I’m just biased because I own two bcm’s so disregard my comment lol 😂
Dd barrel and handguard are superior imo. Just opinion
What about resale value?
where do you see Daniel defense at a similar price to BCM every where I have seen Daniel defense is almost double the price
I choose dd hands down
Sounds like it just comes down to personal preference and price
Can you replace the bcm bolt carrier with a Geissele bolt carrier?
Yes. You can replace the BCM bcg with any milspec bcg, including geissele. However, BCM produces an excellent bcg.
Thank you@@buckshot279
Accuracy wise ? Daniels Defense ( DDM4 can print 1 7/8" groups vs my Colt LE6940 2 " 5 shot groups- equal to my BCM with the C8 sfw upper and my " lowly" Spikes Tactical M4LE firing remington 55gr 5.56 range ammo.)
Maybe I don't know any better, but the 4 carbines are all rugged, well built and more accurate than i can probably shoot.
Buy what you can afford. That's the best - I would look elsewhere though on the newer colt CR6920s...
I love BCM!
I love DD but for the price, go BCM. Same quality product thats easier for the common man to aquire. I know 2000 isnt alot to some for a DD but why spend 800 to 1000 more dollars when you can buy a BCM and get the same quality.
Oct 2016 (Hillary), DPMS Oracle 5.56 for $399 (Dunham's on sale from $599 to $499, had a rebate from DPMS for $100, and best part was I got a $100 Visa card from work. I actually spent only $299 and still got yelled at by my Wife. I'm going to miss her.
no mention of gas blocks.....hmmm
I own both and agree with you that they're both great rifles,however if I could only keep one I would keep the v7,here are the reasons 1)the v7 has a bomb proof pin gas block,2)the v7 barrel is consistently more accurate,3)the handguard on the BCM is so slim and close to the barrel that gets hot way too fast for me.
Honestly, for guys looking for that "best ar," if you can set aside 1 weekend, you can build a better ar15 for cheaper than what most companies offer. Even just buying the cheapest milspec lower saves a hundred bucks.
I owe them too. I’ll will choose DD. BCM known for little issues (which it is ok) but their customer services is not as good as DD.
Can’t go wrong with either
Got that right telecaster.
You can keep your weed in the grips storage compartment LOL
Nice. Funny though….very little comparative differences. Price maybe…..thanks.
They are very similar in terms of performance/value. Thanks for stopping by SportoPaul, welcome to the channel!
Too Nice of a truck to bounce brass off it
My F150 is often subjected to cruel and usual range punishment, I love the truck and goes everywhere with me. It’s the most expensive range prop I’ve got.
Thanks for stopping by SCC.
Objectively DD is better. My personal experience with both also supports this.
I have a bcm elw bfh upper and it runs like a horse but i wasnt super impressed with accuracy.
I own BCM, Sionics and PSA premium upper . I say sionics is the best, than PSA FN barrel ( only the barrel and giessele gas system and rail )and added microbest bolt with the 5 springs . I'd say BCM is last. I don't like the barrel . If they had the FN barrel on the BCM, and Ambi lower like the Sionics it would be the best.
DD all day
DD is the best.Bcm doesn't make anything while DD makes prob 75% of their parts.
After hearing about the BCM barrel quality issues lately, even on their cold forged barrels, I'm not sure they're an option anymore if you want a reliable barrel.
Has BCM quality control gone down hill? Seems to be more complaints about them lately. I guided my brother in the direction of a BCM bcg awhile back and the bolt felt like it was binding in the carrier. Sure as shit when we pulled the bolt out the gas rings came flying off the bolt.
Probably the pandemic QC. And the high demand. It’s probably ok to buy one now in 2023.
What's been wrong with their barrels? Update me!
Yea sure hope the Quality hasn’t gone downhill, they’re a great company. I’ve got newer (late pandemic purchase) and an older (~2017) upper from them. I haven’t seen any QA issues on mine, though I’m only a few hundred rounds on my newer and thousands into my older. Perhaps I can do a comparison video between the two.
I have one on my wishlist in the foreseeable future. In the meantime I've been more than happy with my Ruger AR 556 basic. Have it for six years now and not a single issue.
My upper will be a 16" RECCE
Daniel defense 😍😍😍
I'm considering daniel defense, or geissele complete upper for my home defense/range/rifle class set up. It'll be on a lwrc complete ambi lower with upgraded trigger from the factory. I've heard bad things about ALL rifle manufacturers... where does the advertisement/fanboying/brand loyalty/justifying their purchase... end... this is more complicated than trigonometry 😆
It’s impossible to pick one that won’t be trashed talked by someone.. DD or Geissele on a LWRC lower will be a solid set up, guaranteed, no matter what the haters say.
@@shootersresourcechannel642 I'm also buying irons only to force myself to learn the fundamentals of shooting irons well. I can easily shoot 1,500-2,000 rounds for what a aimpoint pro on a larue or scalarworks mount plus a basic arisaka light with the cheapest momentary tail cap costs depending on sales etc. Which I think is around $650-$700 minimum unless you got an insane blem sale or got them used. What's your favorite home defense ammo? It'll be either a 14.5 pinned and welded or 16. I used to use xm193 55 grain in my 2013 configuration colt le6920. But I think at least 2 mags of something REALLY effective plus an extra 20-40 in the box to replace the round in the chamber with the love tap from the bolt 😆
@@JohnSmith-du3cywhat did you end up getting?