Daniel Defense BCG! Is it Worth the Money in Comparison with Aero?
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- Опубліковано 17 лют 2020
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I just received a black nitride BCG from Aero and was looking for the items you mentioned in this video. Seems like they saw this and corrected their mistakes or lack of QC, because the one I just got has a similar looking stake job as the Daniel Defense BCG you reviewed here. I was pleasantly surprised for under $150.... Aero makes great products
I personally like AP products. I've owned both DD & AP BCG for 5 years: Weight: same to .1oz (best my scale can do). Lenght: identical, staking on both as well as overalll appearances: Identical. Bolt and carrier dimensions +/- .0001 from nominal. Firing pin, same lenght, but DD was polished a bit more. Measured with good minus pin gauges and Mitutoyo digital caliper. I'm pleased with both.
The carpet is a welcome upgrade, sir.
The gray carpet is the best👍....As for the BCGs I would just get the Aero👍🇺🇸.....Stay Safe.....Steve from Illinois👍🇺🇸....Keep these awesome reviews coming brother👍🇺🇸
Yes, it contrasts well with small parts and makes things easy to see.
Grey background is easy on the reviewer's eyes...keep up the excellent reviews KB! Thanks.
Kudos to my town Hobbs New Mexico our sheriff fought for us and we won a battle today our commissioners unanimously voted for sanctuary against the red flag law!!! I couldnt be any happier for my state we are fighting these tyrants.
That's great news!
Excellent News ! 👍
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Keep fighting vote at the state level the govener has to go .
Good for you guys... that is most excellent and puts a smile on my face. Now my Oregon Sheriffs need to step up and get with the movement and defend our rights.
I hope things go similar for us in Valencia county brother!
The BCG is the most important part of the rifle, when you are in the middle of nowhere or getting attacked by a zombie horde a broken-damaged extractor or bolt will ruin your day.
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I own BCGs from both companies. Both are solid. If you wanted to save some cash and distribute it to another area of your build I'd go with Aero Precision.
Good video, I run the BCM in “go to” rifle and PSA premium in others with no issues to date
Two thumbs up for the lighting, background, etc. It's perfect! I have 2 PSA bcg's. A Nib, and a bottom of the barrel that I paid $50 for. The cheap one felt pretty gritty at first, especially compared to the NiB. But guess what - the cheap one works just as good. Music at the end also gets two thumbs up!
I bought a Aero Precision phosphated bcg and I did do some work on the staking. It just gave me more confident. But I have done the same thing on 2 other carriers. Cool video. Oh, one more thing I do to all of my bolts is put the BCM inhanced extracter spring and o ring in them. I had a Aim Surplus Nib bcg and I was having extracting issues. So I installed the BCM spring and o ring, problem solved. Background is perfect, love it!
I love Aero's products... usually my first choice for balance of quality and price.
What I’m thinking about right now… 2 of my choices… thank you
Much better background to work on! Great video! Very cool outro music too! Keep up the great work!
I love the Fail Zero bcg's. My last one I bought had weak staking on the gas key just like the Aero one does. Sure enough it started coming loose after a few 100 rounds. I contacted Fail Zero about it and they immediately sent me a pre paid shipping label to print out. I mailed it to them and they sent me a brand new one with beautiful staking on the gas key. Awesome cust. service. I do love Aero Precision also. I use there m4e1 enhanced upper and lowers on a few of my ARs.
Great review. I think after a while you will reach a point where the law of diminishing returns come into play because the average shooter will not need anything more than a quality BCG from Aero or PSA for that matter. If you want to pay the extra money, by all means you can do whatever you want with your money. Is it worth the money? Depends on the shooter.
Great review, very helpful. Great video quality makes even better. Thank you.
Thanks for this video myfriend. I would like to get in on one of those upcoming build classes.
The carpet looks great. I like my BCM BCG’s but haven’t had any problems with any others. Keep up the great videos KB!
Loved this video! Earned a new subscriber! Keep it up bud! Would like to see more comparisons from high end to midrange companies like this.
Love the background and the content
I have a sweet original "early" Daniel Defense M4A1 serial number 102xxx that came with a chromed full-auto Daniel Defense BCG that has now been discontinued for a few years... and I absolutely love it. The quality of it is TOP notch.
I was hoping to buy another one but these full-auto DD chromed BCG are extremely hard to find now days.
Thanks for the videos and the comparisons
The carpet looks great. Very easy on the eyes, good sir👍🏽
I like the new back ground and as always the video or visual optics quality are great.
Background good. I certainly wouldn't pay up for the DD BCG. I Got hooked on the XPB from Sharps, which is $30ish cheaper, and a real performer under severe duty. 8K rounds and counting on my original, and will be testing their Nickel Teflon Reliabolt in my new XM177E2 build from OG 'Nam parts including Chromed BC. I figure the Reliabolt will help any issues with no M4 feed ramps on the old receiver, which it has done, since I added it. In my experience, every piece of Aero Precision I've ever used, functioned flawlessly, and was of very high standard of quality. If given just those two choices, I'd go with the Aero, and add the money saved to my ammo budget.
Exactly!
Bought one from Black Rifle Depot that looks as if it could have been made in the same factory and just didn't get Daniel Defense etched on it. $105 with shipping included.
@@1stevenyarbrough the difference is in the specs. toolcraft makes most mil spec bcg. Colt gets theirs and checks all the specs and the ones that are not in spec get sent back and then sold for cheap by places like psa and others. you pay for quality work just like with lowers. thats why sons of liberty is so great because they adhere to those specs and have their own that are even batter and they are very affordable . only thing i dont care for is their qpc barrels, i prefer a chf chrome lined barrel on a battle rifle.
Agreed.
By the way good review thanks for the content love the camera I remember I had a Sharps rifle company with the reliable Bolt and the diamond like coating the staking was almost non-existing
I’ve got a Daniel Defense, PSA, and BCM BCG. Both I bought years ago and they’ve been perfect. The DD is unmarked. It’s probably 7-8 years old. Truth be told the PSA has been flawless as well. You’re right about the DD BCG though. It was probably the tightest between all 3 when it was new.
I've had good results with the Aero Precision BCG's. The phosphate and the black nitride finish Aero Precision bolt carrier groups have 158 steel bolts, but the nickel boron finish Aero Precision BCG's have 9310 steel bolts.The firing pins may have different finishes between those also.
Background looks good, BCG's look AWESOME!!
The Daniel defense has always been known as a high quality bcg. In my eyes not worth the money but for sure high quality. Going forward I am done with nickel boron too much maintenance and polishing to clean. Black nitride and titanium nitride only for me. Per your recommendation!
In my experience as long as you have a good name brand bolt and carrier with a spare bolt on you or in the pistol grip and your weapon is kept decently clean and lubed..you will be fine. I do prefer bcm bolts but that's just me. Thanks KB32, and god bless!👍✌🇺🇸💪
Made by Toolcraft and BCM has good QC building them
I enjoyed this, its nice to see honest no fluff comparisons
The new Gray background works well. Also a great video on the BCG's.
Absolutely digging the carpet.
Definitely you are the most in-depth Chanel in the gun community I’ve followed you from the start even though you don’t have a lot of time to respond but definitely a great show watch ever day I think if you take care of your equipment you should not ever need to spend that kind of money on a BCG can you get a lemon 🍋 yes but that’s with your car or anything if your gonna go full race competition then yes and if your gonna race cars then you got to spend the money 💰
good video man. Have had some issues with Aero bolts in past not being spec. However not many.
I have both and they are both fine. The Aero is basically a Toolcraft which is rock solid.
Yes, Aero doesn't make their BCG, probably ToolCraft, Aero Branded.
Darker,non-glare surfaces always make the best background for videos. Looks great!
Great video....Keep up the Great work u do!!!!
I like the grey carpet and how it helps regulate the cameras light sensors.
For bcg's I personally like Aero, everything I need and want and nothing that I dont. Even the general PSA standard ones have never failed me. Theres no way I can justify paying twice as much for a bcg when the QC difference is so minor, whatever extra lifespan value I'd get roundcount wise is less than getting a replacement bcg.
Got thousands of rounds thru my 4 year old PA-15 range plinker without a single failure or malfunction. I agree PSA does just fine! Although I'm currently in the middle of building my "apocalypse" rifle and pretty much every single component is either KAC, Sons of Liberty, or BCM because just as KB was saying, it depends on what you use it for. I'm building a fighting rifle so I'll work for some extra cash in order to get the higher quality stuff. Next time I build a rifle though I'll almost certainly use an Aero because they're just good BCG's
How is it that I see people that can just through in that retaining pin for the firing pin with no problem. It never fails. I've always got problems getting it through.
*The background is great!*
Same for me
KNS precision retaining pin makes a world of difference, only 8 bucks. My standard pin is a headache as well.
@@WhiteDwarfVR4 Thanks! I'll have to check it out.
Eyeball your Bcg from the rear so you can see the pin....
When you put it in sometimes it wants to angle down away from the hole on the other side.... so you have to counter the force by pushing it kinda down to make it go up..(much easier to show then explain hahaha)
And it should pop right in
I had the same issue until I watched a vid on this subject. Insert the pin and with the loop horizontal, lift up and push... I couldn't believe how great that worked.
oh ya the gray is way more pleasing to the eyes. has nice contrast also
The background looks perfect.
I bought some $89 aim surplus carriers. One was out of spec and I could barely get the cam bolt in and out. It still works though.
Love the background.
I don't care how good a product is, I will not support companies that even remotely support more or tougher gun laws.
TreasureHuntingSWPA that’s why I gave up on Benchmade knives
@@freddyg6940 you say, commenting this on a anti gun corporation computer, or phone. On youtube... of google...
There are two types of people who support gun control. Those who don't think a government can become tyrannical and those who fully intend for it to be.
Which company is that
@@GBall_Vision 02:30-02:45 Did you even watch the video?
High quality video, thanks. I like my DDM4V7 Pro. Interested to learn about Aero.
I will always say this when it comes to BCG's. The BGC is a consumable. You don't have to pay top dollar to get a good one. Paying top dollar for one is like paying top dollar for a sheet of sandpaper. Sure it might hold up a bit longer but it was never meant to be forever, it was always a throwaway part.
But it doesn't hold up just a bit longer, it holds up a lot longer.
In short: *NO*
Daniel Defense has done nothing beyond piss me off with their narcissistic prices, like many manufacturers. I'm not paying for a rifle to get a name, I'm paying for a rifle to get a rifle. If I want something special, I'll build the damn thing.
Any bolt carrier group past say 90-100 dollars you better be paying for the finish, hell nitride is extremely beautiful and strong whilst cheap
Looks great!👍
I would use the aero percision and not think anything about it.
Background looks good man
I really enjoy your feed. Just felt like I should tell you.
Kinda funny that nearly all my bolts last 20 plus thousand rounds before a lug shears, but when I get two toolcraft bolts that break at cam pin holes inside 15k between the two of them. Not each.... but total.... I get people scoffing like I did something wrong.
Then they backpeddle and say "I don't want to say you did something wrong"......
Not doing certain inspections and heat treating regardless of materials used matters a little I think.
I knew exactly who he was referring to when he said that. I applaud you for standing your ground.
Who who who?
Was your bolt marked 1B1B6?
@@aholegunner ... Yup, me too , R.G.T. is one of my ABSOLUTE favorite and kudos for standing your ground my man 👍👍👍
@@redwhiteandblue7290 Rock on brother! Btw I love your name.
It amazes me. The thought it takes to design 1 component of a system. Thank your for the comparison
Just get a PSA bolt, they have normal and premium carriers groups. You don't need anything fancy. Spend the rest on ammo.
PRACTICE
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For the bcg, I would agree. The bolt,not so much. Finish is never as important as function. There are bolts that are far superior than others. I have broken two bolts in my rifles at the can pin hole. I switched to the HM denfense HMB battle bolts in all of our rifles and havent had a problem since. 4 years after their initial design, I called HM about 3 weeks ago and they still habent gotten a broken bolt back yet nor has the licensed manufacturer who is now producing them.
Not all parts take the abuse like other parts do. A chromed lined bcg,nope isnt important. Makes it a little easier to clean. Put the money where it counts.
@@FreedomInc A chrome lined bolt carrier and gas key is essential for an AR15. Those are the 2 main places where you're gonna get corossion.
@Brad Roberts Very helpful input
Brad Roberts you also probably are agains a psa lower also. Because of what actual tangible reason?
I bet there’s only a handful of places actually producing all this stuff.
Places that get a high volume of students should start tracking failures of common parts. A spreadsheet over long enough of a period and accurate records would allow some patterns to emerge.
It’s probably down to a statistical min on AR15’s now but 10+ years ago I’m guessing the data would be very different.
Check out SOTAR on Facebook for tested data
I’ve got a toolcraft in my grendel probably got over 1100rds through that thing by now without an issue. I’ve got a couple psa that have been just fine too. I also have a bear creek side charging 223 with about 2000rds on it without an issue. But I usually go with bcm or fail zero on rifles I plan on using a lot and keeping. Never had a Daniel or a aero. Another good one I’ve had in another grendel for a ton of rounds and makes for a super slick action is radical firearms
Good video as always bud, in your opinion what do you think the best bcg is? Just your opinion out of all the ones you have or have got to test?? I'm building an ar kind of like an end all be all, no budget restrictions, just make it the best it can be. Any insight would be great, god bless from ole Carolina.
Like the gray carpet background better (no glare) and great contrast, than the wood (a lot of glare).
Background looks good!
I like the grey. It contrasts well. Both bcg's are bad ass. But I'm satisfied with my PSA. Good stuff as always KB
Background is a significant upgrade!
I bought a Rock River many years ago and the bcg on that thing didn't meet any of the criteria that we look for in a bcg but it still outlasted the barrel's ability to maintain an acceptable level of accuracy. I put a lot of rounds down the pipe of that gun.
I got DD bolt catcher & I like it & it upgraded my AR ijs..
Very interesting BCG comparison !!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUGE DD fan right here, absolutely love there stuff.
Their stuff,
@@drewhammon1410 😂
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The mat looks great!
Well done! Good to know.
I used to do a LOT of photography. Grey background is perfect in so many ways.
Great videos! Can I ask what brand of scale you have?
Another good approach to bring to these types of comparisons is to measure the quality. Put in the 3 bore gauges, measure the gas tube, pin protrusion and such. Adding these would be a much more quantitative assessment of the quality
Like the Gray and it is the best for color balance as you said...
From a photographer.
The grey background table color is very good.
Comparison of both products? Have the dimensions mic’d side by side, and then read against standard measurements.
The grey carpet is cool!!! 👍👍
I feel like in this day and age there is a pretty normal standard or mil spec yea some stuff is coated better but I don't really see the point in over paying for almost the same thing I get there is a mines better because it cost more thing it's been going on for hundreds of years unless you're planning on going and shooting a 1000 plus rounds a day for most average people a 500 or 600 dollar rifle in today's age with our modern technology is more than effective for most but that's just my opinion I know everyone has one. Great video once again KB.
I built a 10.5 Aero pistol carbine with a Law Tactical hinge. The LT BCG insert combined with the Nickel Boron runs like butter and perfectly mitigates the short barrel harshness.
I like the gray. Good video.
I have switched to tool craft exclusively. They have all been excellent.
Hello Kotaboy32 Tactical,I have a question for you about cleaning and lubing your pistols,I would like to know have you ever used a product called Shooter Lube and Oil,I am asking you as I know that you do a lot of your own reloading but not sure if you cast your own bullets for pistols using lead molds, I wanted to see if you have ever used Shooter Lube and Oil if so is it good for cleaning and lubing if your shooting lead bullets.?I am going to be reloading 38,357,9mm,40 at this time maybe 45 acp at a later time..I just recently picked up 3 new Glocks a G44,G17 and G35 can now wait for spring time to start shooting.. By the way great review on the BCG and that carpet makes the review a much better way to see your reviews.
The gray background is good
Good back-drop, I just bought an aero BCG got it about month ago still haven’t shot it.
I continually subscribe to your channel only to find that I’ve been unsubscribed within two or three days. I’ve never had this problem with any of the other 2A channels. This seems to be an isolated occurrence but it happens so frequently that I’ve stopped re-subscribing.
Please understand that I enjoy your channel, the presentation of information and your content but I just can’t seem to get the subscription to stick. Nonetheless, I will continue to watch your videos as a lurker in the shadows.
Keep up the good work my friend.
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Like DD - thx good review
I have had probably over 40 bolts over the years. So far my absolute favorite is the lmt enhanced followed by lantac. But I have not ever had a problem with any bcg other than worn out gas rings and extractor springs. I did get a bcg from palmetto state that was not even staked, that got sold fairly quickly. I have a dd defense pro match rifle new in box sitting in my safe for over a year that I just haven't had the urge to go shoot.
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That nickel boron coating makes cleaning nice. I still don’t understand why it’s not a standard for at least the bolt. I shoot suppressed a lot and my DD bcg was hard to tell how truly dirty it was til you grabbed it and your hand turned black. Also required more scrubbing.
Background looks good.
Great background 👌👍
👍 back ground looks good
I first bought a 5.56 Daniel Defense DDM4v5s carbine. It took all my money at the time, but I have confidence in this rifle in a shtf situation.
I then wanted a 300blk AR pistol I could both afford and depend on.
Most videos say barrel and BCG heart of AR.
So I bought a PSA lower with the sba 4 pistol brace and enhanced polished trigger.
I then bought a premium PSA FN chf chrome lined barrelled 8" upper, and added the Daniel Defense BCG.
A DD heart with an FN soul.
I have confidence in this pistol in a shtf situation.
interesting video!!
Love the carpet background! 👍 And for me, a bolt carrier has to be made of C158 (bolt) and MPI/HPT individually tested.
9310 is demonstrably stronger when done right...
@@DB.KOOPER "when done right" is the key phrase there. Mil-Spec is C158 and it has been used for decades without issues, so that is why I choose it, cause I haven't had any issues either.
I have , did, Toolcraft premium and colt and BCM. They pretty much seem the same to me.
I currently have 3 different BCGs, a standard mil spec Palmetto M16 bcg, a anderson m16 profile with a 9310 bolt head, and a mil spec Delton and they work just fine, chug through anything
DD is the new Colt where you are paying more money for the name
Lol. My phosphate DD BCG with 23k rounds without a failure or parts replacement disagrees.
So you're directly contributing the bcg to being awesome since it's DD? As in, a generic phosphate Bcg wouldn't do the same thing? Interesting.... How many other bcg have you ran to compare and contrast?
SynFuLLLz Toolcraft won’t do 23k.
So, you've analyzed every single tool craft and confirmed they don't have 23k? Damn, what job do you have? I'd love to see your videos and evidence to support your claim.
SynFuLLLz Look around. Toolcrafts quality is slipping. A regular guy had 2 different ones break on him prematurely. Other 3rd party reviewers online have reported out of spec bolt dimensions. So as of now, I don’t think the majority of Toolcrafts can do 23k rounds.
You should take a look and review on the LWRC DI BCG
I like the gray
Judging by the comments, your new carpet is the clear winner in this video.
Thx man
I originally wanted a BCM, yet they stayed sold out. I looked at others, but after researching Aero I couldn't see the purpose in spending the extra money on DD. Went with Aero, so far been happy with my purchase and my savings.
I like and did watch the video but if they are having anything to do with gun control ole Daniel may lose my money. Thanks Kb32 great video as always bro.
I love lwrci bolt carriers... I have had zero issues with all my lwrci rifles and parts
No I think you nailed all of them... I really like LWRC BCG for there milled gas key
Background good. Keep it.