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Hi Jarrod, do you have a video on budget laptops in Australia? I'm trying to find a budget friendly laptop for fortnite plus normal everyday use e.g watching UA-cam, netflix etc.
@@viewer80 I do not as I don't focus on Australia given it's 3% of the audience. Only Ausralian specific content I have is this jarrods.tech/where-to-buy-a-gaming-laptop-in-australia/
Dude this was a great comparison! I didn't realize how much Zen has improved over the gens. Right now the 7600X is effectively a $600+ upgrade when you account for the platform. By the time the 3600 and 5600X really start showing their age, I imagine AM5 will be mature and newer Zen processors with their V-cache variants will be out. That's probably the best time to upgrade for most gamers
I looked at upgrading my x470 2700 to a 5700x with b550 and it'll cost me £400. I got the 2700 and x470 for £200. It's gonna cost me double for last gen alone the prices are batshit.
From Past 4yrs gpu were in the hands of miners. For gamers Best time is now to upgrade. when gpus are available & new overpriced Zen launched to proof intel 13 is superior 😂
@@nitins3801 Upgrade only for 12th to 13th, Ryzen 7000 is like new Pc build..and no any price/value benefit for both..AM4 will stay or upgrade to 5800x3d and 12th will stay too..so no such a Upgrade terms
@@nathaneddy502 No reason to buy b550, also 2700x is still capable-you can sell it for 80-100 bucks... stay on x470 and take later, when price drops, 5800x3d for gaming -400$ upgrade vs 7700x or 13700k platform price -or 5900x (was 350bucks on summer sales) for workloads and 5-10% less fps..Save what you can for better Gpu and don't be fooled by marketing, we have (they made) a economic crisis..
I think one of the key datapoints missing in most reviewers, is the 1% and .1% lows on the final comparisons. It would be really useful to see how much, on average of all games, you improve on the most important stutter metrics
Fantastic point, however it is normally very easy to see results but not understand or /feel/ them in regards to the lows At most it is a single sentence in the review and at most it is someone saying “1%lows were higher which led to a much smoother gaming experience overall” which is effective whether your avg fps is 70 or 270 I reckon a comment on the 1%low is a great idea if only to start the conversation in the F P S and performance zeitgeist, to use big nerd words. Big part of gaming is playing smooth
Excuse me. Im a novice in these benchmark thingys. What is these 1% things that u just mentioned earlier. I know that they are lower than normal average performance score but what do they represent for and how are they relevant in computer usage. Sorry for my english. Its not my mother tongue
@@dokidoki5850 frame rate is not always smooth. 1% lows average the frame rate of the lowest 1% to show if there may be stutter. Eg. If you average 80fps but your 1% lows are 30fps you may perceive a stutter effect in the game. This was prevalent in the sli days as 2 GPUs could drastically increase frame rates but would induce a nasty stuttering effect. Which is one of the many reasons it fell out of favor.
I don't include it because not all of my tests measure 1% lows, so it wouldn't be fair to compare it to the average unless I just skipped the games that don't measure them. That said, that was not the case with this specific game selection, so I guess I could have, but it's the reason I usually don't. In any case, the data is all there for you to work it out :)
r5 3600x user here. This video is perfect! And thank you for including 4k benchmarks as well. I wish more youtubers did this so we can see if an upgrade is truly worth it as 4k becomes more viable.
@@Ayzesh1868 sounds like you’re gonna use the pc for productivity tasks which means a higher core cpu would be more meaningful. Maybe like a 5700x. If your budget is higher then I’d look into 12 core cpus.
@@Ayzesh1868 grab a 5600. its similarly priced to 3600 and offers more performance out the gate. adobe will be fine. I don't have experience with premier so you might wanna ask around more for that.
@@Ayzesh1868 i wouldn't, you need more the 3600 with games that came out the last couple months, they make the cpu latency terrible, lots of lag, you need to upgrade at least 5600 now, these 3600 will be obsolete in a couple years that's for sure because there are already starting to feel the effects, I even got a 40 series gpu and it drags it down sometimes
Thanks for testing at 1440p and 4K in your CPU benchmarks. People often see 1080p results and rush out to buy a new CPU without realizing they were probably GPU bound.
@@peepeepoopoo2973trying to decide what CPU to get for my daughter's build, 3600 looks mighty fine still for budget PC gaming but I suppose if the 5600 isn't that much more expensive might as well try for that. That thing is fast af still but idk.. unfortunately there's not much of an upgrade path after it as opposed to what the future upgrade impact of jumping from a 3600 to say a 5800x3d could be. But planning around uncertainty in the future is pretty dumb 🤣 I just think it'd be a nice bonus should she grow out of the 3600
Good video. The (obvious) thing is: 3600 & 5600x owners can upgrade to a 5800x3D without having to get a new motherboard and ram. I think a lot of people will be doing that.
Unless AMD has them pulled from retail shelves. Micro Center already pulled the 5800X3D nationwide and reintroduced the 3000 series. Edit: They put them back up after 72 hours off the website.
or you just hold your wallet and wait till the prices goes down with B-mobos and you will buy ddr5 either way this gen or the next one but that doesn't mean you need to pay overpriced ones so I think wait is the best option imo
Friend has 3600 and rx5600xt 6GB and is happy I have 5600x and RX6700XT 12GB and am happy I think I will just sell the 6700xt and buy a 5700xt 8GB, cause I really dont need that power for my games.
The 5800X3D is GREAT for gaming but suffers in all other desktop applications from the lower clock speeds and lack of over clocking. The X3D does NOT perform well in all other applications other than gaming.
You know what really blows my mind however listening to people speak nowadays? ''oh the 3600 still hold up... after all those years...'' like what the actual fck is wrong with people? the r3600 was released in 2019. Its only 3 years old!... the r3600 is NOT an old cpu, yet people nowadays talk over it like its ancient. I remember people who sat OR still sit on the old budget student i5 2500k and even they play the most recent games without to much issue because games are mostly gpu bound and if it comes to cpu bottleneck its mostly a singlecore bottleneck and not the multicore performance you have for most people.
man. im just amazed how well the 5600x stacked up against the 7600x. not that much performance difference in the games that i play. theres really not much of a reason for someone like me with a 5600x to get the 7600x.
Plus it runs cooler and more energy efficient. I just upgraded from an i5 4690k to 5600X and the price difference of 5600X and 7600X was 100€. Not worth to go for 7600X in my opinion. Also the price skyrockets with gen 5 memory and motherboard
That video was super useful for me. I was just thinking to upgrade my 3600x. And it seems like 5600X is the better option. Not much of a difference in performance compared to 7600x , but I don`t need to change the entire system.
I have a 3600 but that base clock for the 7600x is really tempting. My main game is Squad and that game requires a really good clock speed since its not optimized for multi-core.
This video is the reason I have the bell on for this channel. 3600 user with 3200MHz ram. It's been a great combo so far but I'm looking to upgrade real soon.
Not to throw shade on the bigger UA-camrs but I feel like Jarrod does much more work and goes much more in-depth on the data. For a single person to do that much testing, I feel like he deserves much more credit than he already has.
After revisiting this video, I might put off upgrading to AM5 till next year. Running 5600x w 7900 XTX on 4k144. Not even x3D but AM4 are really a great platform!
Damn Jarrod, impressed at your robust test suite since I last saw your channel. Def gonna keep coming back more often for those compile benchmarks! Small note, although I personally benefit from LLVM compile benchmarks, you're covering more people if you use GCC since it's a lot more common in dev-libraries as a toolchain. And also bundled with Linux to begin with.
If I was in the market for a new PC today I think I would still stick with AM4 because there's plenty of parts and it's roughly $450 for an AM4 (CPU/MB/RAM) vs $700 for the AM5. Let the early adopters deal with beta testing the first version of AM5.
I got the 5600x yesterday for 130 dollars. I am coming from a 3600 and can’t wait to see the difference. MW2 seems to have issues with my current CPU. Hoping this helps run smoothly
Yoo, current r5 3600 user here. Can you letme know what performance increase you roughly get and on which games? Maybe good to mention the gpu youre using as well. Appreciated!
@@mikevandenouweland5301 so I use a 3060ti and I’m on 1080p. So far I’ve played the new MW2 and I am seeing anywhere from 40-80 fps gain and I have no more micro stutters.. definitely worth it!
i play with a 5600x and a 3060ti and get 120fps on everything high settings in MW2..it’s great. sometimes it dips into 90s but it’s overall around 100fps..all at 1440p as well
@@dakotamurphy225 saw this late, but im on 3600 and that fps drops in mw2 are killing me... is it worth it to go to 5600x? I have 3070ti with it, ik it bottlenecks but was waiting for a little longer to get a cheaper 7600x but apparently its too highly priced here..
Ryzen 5 5600x might not be best in terms of performance but for a budget gamer, it is a more suitable choice mainly because of the much higher power consumption and heating in 7600x
However ppl that have it it's totally fine, we can see that the majority of games when it's GPU capped the difference is almost nothing and for ppl stretching for the highest FPS possible AKA competitive players 7600 is also not a CPU for them either, they should go higher so it really makes the 5600X completely fine at least for gaming and absolute 0 need of upgrading, they better upgrade later on like AMD AM5 2nd gen or 3rd gen... EDIT: Forgot to say unless you hear China enters war, if that happen then you should go run right away and make a whole new PC with the 7600 or intel or whatever cause it will probably be very hard to buy PC parts or anything at all for quite some time, if that happens I will sadly have to go run to buy a GPU right away, until then I'm waiting for like RTX4060 or AMD equivalent next year...
Lol. I have the base 5600 and that thing is still a beast paired with the 6700 non XT. Still a superior chip in terms of performance per dollar considering they can be had for around $130 now.
technically, the 5600X is still the best. Specially with the 7600x coming out, the 5600X now can be had at £100 (used). 3600 is still good. If you have a 2600/x version, might be best to get the 5600X atleast.
I used a 3600x from 2020-2022 and it treated me well for 1080p gaming with a 2060. I ended up going to a 5700x for 1440p gaming and I noticed better %1 lows and better average frames. I will stick with my 5700x for a while until AM5 prices go down. I am eyeing the 7800x3d but it is still $450 since it released recently
Finally some real benchmark that’s not sponsored by AMD to hell and back. I’ve purchased Ryzen 7 5800x for 180euros and will sell my Ryzen 5 3600 for 90. At first I thought it’s not worth the hustle, but gaining 2 extra cores and 4 extra threads, plus higher IPC combined with higher clocks just made me not want to miss the chance. Coming from ryzen 7 1700 I’ve always missed those extra cores after I switched to 6/12. I see no real reason why anyone should move to am5 at this moment. Maybe once they release 3D variants or 2nd gen am5. Nice video! :)
It seems that current-gen games are not supporting new architecture yet. Maybe newer titles will show more difference! Recently upgraded my 3600 with 7 5700x really cheap, and can definitely tell that there are less dips/lags.
From a value perspective, 5600(X) destroys the 7600X by a huge margin, especially in non-US countries, where 7600X is literally double the price - without even accounting for the total platform cost. So no, you have to be pretty much dumb to ever consider this as an option, either get a 5600/5700X on the cheap, 5800X3D for games or 7900X/7950X for the "all-out" builds. Or even better, waiting for Raptor Lake one month is worth it IMO. Oh, and granted, if you don't have a high-end GPU, the difference is even lower.
You ought to make a vid on comparing an existing 3600 system upgrading to the 5800X3D vs the cheapest possible 7600x system. I.e. a B350 board with a 5800X3D and 3200 MHz RAM vs the 7600X
I still have my old faithful 3600 upgraded some time ago from a 2600.....wasn't a huge leap but did offer me some extra frames.... Still a solid CPU considering it's age, it might last me maybe another two years or so, from that point I'm probably gonna go either Ryzen 7 and also upgrade my Mobo for DDR5 and 32 gigs of ram..... Have a 3070 RTX, very good card will just migrate to my new one but for now all my games run perfectly fine 1080 mostly on max settings....
I game at 1440 p with 3600 and thought I'll be set with upgrade to used 3080 ti with the prices dropping. Now seeing how much better 5600x performs in 1440 p raised whole bunch of more questions. Thinking about also upgrading cpu now. Very informative
I use Ryzen AM4, 5600x with 6900XT for my main PC at (1440p, 144hz ultra wide) and and 3400G with 5700XT for the HTPC (1080p, 60hz projector) so it will probably be a few more years before I need to look at AM5 since the 5800X3D will be the cheapest upgrade path for the gaming PC, and I can use the 5600x on the HTPC and move the 3400G to the media/ file server which is currently running on a old Synology potato. At the moment the HPTC is just for playing Plex and emulation of my old PS2 and Wii U games so they never go over 60 fps anyway and the 3400G + 5700XT is already more than enough for that and won't need an upgrade for a long time.
Gonna be upgrading from 3400g to a 5600 (i have a dedicated gpu anyway) so i could pair an rtx 3080, i hope things go well and i wont have to worry much about bottlenecking. As far as i can see this wont really be a problem, especially at QHD. Wish me lucks!
First of all. Great content. Second. Upgrading to 7600X from AM4 is not really worth it (motherboard, RAM and CPU cost). Getting the 5800X3D is much better way since you only have to pay for the new CPU.
i like how even with eco mode, the 7600X has still decent performance with maximum 1-5% perfomance lost due to eco, which is neglectible because of higher overall performance of this CPU.
So essentially I'm gonna stay with the 3600. I may get a 6800 xt or similar best case scenario (and I don't feel like spending as much) and I guess my cpu is going to be just fine... maybe with a 4090 but i don't want to sell my car and switch to bike for it.
It's nuts you're getting 199FPS on max setting on the 3600 in COD WZ. I get 100 to120FPS on medium high in WZ with my 3600, 32GB of 3600 ram, & a 3080 Ultra.
Actually the Ryzen 5 3600 with its 32MB L3 Cache is still a good CPU to pair with GPUs like RTX 2060, 3060, RX6650. I have all three CPUs tested here. One PC received upgrade from i7 2600 to Ryzen 5 2600 then replaced with 3600X. The jump in performance was significant and visible in daily use and games. Also switching to M.2 NGFF SSD is important.
I am still rocking my i5 3470 on my PC, time to upgrade soon. Not quite sure if AM5 is worth it right now though, 5800x3D might be the way to go for best price/performance.
Games... focus on GPU... As shown, I deduced that uplifts are mainly seen in heavy workloads/renderings & etc... Most games doesn't utilized CPU like GPU....just get a CPU fast enough to not bottleneck your preferred GPU... PERIOD... As always, much appreciated choom... Cheers!!
Nice video, but I´m still happy with my R5 3600. As long all is smooth enough I will not upgrade. (Prolly wait for a ryzen 8600x. or 8700x) IF you must know my specs its a: x570 board with stock DDR4 B-Die 3466 mhz ram. MSI OC RTX 3060TI, ASIO soundcart(s) and yep the R5 3600 (also on stock) 2x m.2 mvme ssd's with 3 normal ssd's. If some 1 wants to know how cyberpunks runs? Its 55 to 65 FPS on ultra settings at 1440p. So I just putted all a tiny bit lower on high/ultra for a locked 75 fps cuz my screen is 75hz.
Upgraded to Ryzen 7600. In my case it was really worth it because it comes from a very old platform (Haswell i7-4770). But whoever owns AM4 for sure at the moment is not worth it.
@@TheOdsystem Thank you! Here where i live, the 5600x is 280usd and the 7600x is 300usd, same with mobos and ram, ram=literally same price for same capacity, and mobo, a good b550m is around 260usd, literally they are selling b550m and b650m same price, is crazy ik, but argentina is wild thing 😅 I think am5 for a new build and this prices is a solid choice
@@Eddinski AM5 is definitely the best choice. You will not regret! If you find the 7600 non X you can save more, it practically has the same performance as the 7600x consuming less power and with lower temps.
The 7600 is great, but i really need per core power, so the 7600x and his frequency gives me that power i need in that specific scenario, anyway, so much thanks 4 your opinion dude, cheers from the 3rd world haha@@TheOdsystem
I'm using R5 3600 with my RTX 3080 on a ultrawide 35" 120hz screen with 2X8GB 3200hz RAM. Since 3440x1440p is some sort of 2K resolution, which of the 1440p and 4K numbers will I be the best indicator for me?
Hmmm I was thinking of upgrading my 5800X to a 7600X but not sure now… Just to play Call of Duty 4K. Might go 7700X but will decide after watching your 7700X review.
With the 5600x/g is the best budget for a good performance . It support ddr4 4000mhz and updated PCIe which perform better than 3600 by a lot but not by large price difference . Expect to upgrade after 4-5 years time and resale value of these chips are great too
The 5700X is even a better choice for overall system performance including gaming, video editing, compression/decompression and MUCH more. As the olé saying goes the more CPU cores the better! The 5600G is a BAD choice as the 5700G is! I don't know about the 5600G but the 5700G only supports PCIE 3.0 and only has 16Mb of L3 cache which will CLAMP most newer components across the board!
@@johnszatkowski6898 yup but if you check the current price to performance ratio for the 6core 5600g. you really gain much more for the budget + performance while waiting for the new chipset /graphic card to drop price as compared to 3000series. 5700X is a good card no doubt with 25% more performance for daily usage but at a cost of nearly $100 -150 more.
Amd Ryzen 5. 3600X i still working fine. Pc market is still pretty stuck with single core performance. To upgrade to 7600X i need to put down minimum 700$ for a good motherboard and memory. That is twice the price of my current motherboard and Ryzen5 3600X. I will wait 2-3 years and spend 400$ on GPU upgrade instead. Put my money where it's really needed.
I just bought 5600x am4 platform upgrading my 10 year+ old i7 4770k… lol I honestly sort of regret not going for AM5. But honestly this should last me and won’t be needing to upgrade any time soon.
Thank you. I'm just considering GPU upgrade from RTX 2070 to RTX 40xx (1440p gaming / VR) and I think I will carry on with my Ryzen 3600 for now. There will be a small CPU bottleneck but the cost of new CPU with all other hardware is not worth it yet. It might be interesting to add a VR game into the comparison next time 😀
I dunno if you need a 40 series card I got a used 3080 for $450 Runs most games in 4K (not max settings in the absolute latest games but very high settings still) and the 12100f As far as gaming, it works great. Planning on upgrading the CPU for video editing but yeah if you're just gaming the 3600 should be fine along with a high end 30 series card
Upgrading from i5 2500 to an AM4 mobo with Ryzen 3600. All I do is play games and being able to get the 1080p performance I want with my rx6600 and next gpu, I think it was
The 5600 non x is the best bang for the buck at the moment you can buy... Here in Germany i have bought it for around € 155 ! Unbelievable price for this CPU....(between 5600x and non x there is nearly no difference) Then i have a MSI B550M Pro VDH WIFI, Corsair 3600 DDR 4 memory, corsair 750 sfx PSU, 1 TB harddisk (NVMe 3.0), rx 6650 xt, 4 fans and a wonderful small case, the Intertech IM-1 Pocket. This is a fantastic "shoe case" pc built... Very small, and powerful. Total cost of this "shoe box": € 890. I think this is a very fine system and more than enough for most casual gamers.... Best regards from.....🇩🇪🤓
Hey man i am looking for this combo. I have r5 3600 now with rx 5700. I have only money for rx6700 xt. Monitor 1080 144hz what do you think about it do you like it , is this way to go ? How about your gaming exp
Great stuff. Be interesting to see the same benchmarks with a 4090. Can a 3600 with a 4090 provide the same (ish) performance as a 5600x/7600x at 4k (targettting max 120fps)?
so, from this video, I make a conclusion that if you are buying a new rig, you should probably not consider Ryzen 3600 anymore (unless it's really cheap). But if you have one it might be more beneficial to upgrade your GPU first to see a noticeable improvement in gaming
Performance looks great I don’t want to swap motherboards tho The only thing that really bugs me about and is it’s high temps I have a 5800x with admittedly rather a bad case and poor airflow still even undercooked that thing likes to reach 90 degrees which makes the fan noise quite annoying
Nooot quite, as Jarrod mentioned, eco mode can limit power consumption and results in the best energy efficiency of all 3 processors tested with ~-5% performance hit. AMD just decided to run it at the max physical limits without incurring damage out of the box, whereas normally this is what overclockers do.
Nah, im stick with 5600x for now. That power draw is a deal breaker for me. Since i play game at 1440p resolution by the way. As long as games is 60fps above at the 1440p, i have no reason to upgarde
I dont regret getting a 7000 series cpu. Yes they run pretty hot but holy crap they are fast af. They completely destroy threadripper cpus from 1st and 2nd gen.
@@Kanivalos80 im only hitting about 87c with pbo enabled. Dont see a need to. Its probably my thermal past tbh because im only using mx4 atm and plan to get kryonaut extreme.
The advantage CPU's like the 5600x is that it shines where lesser and some more expensive cpu's fail, in games that utilize higher core counts. Although its only a 6 core cpu, they are powerful and outperform some cpu's like the 10900 in certain situations. Right now you can pick up a 5600x for $150 usd.
I can get a 7600x for $200, buttttttttt 2 things - I can't find a satisfactory affordable motherboard of my liking and best thing = I got more then 1 water cooler and 2 AMD coolers that were made for socket AM4, but they might not be compatible and they're made by AMD. AMD done FFFFFFF'D up !!!!!!
i saw this add on the market place (netherlands ) for 500, gaming pc. it contains this: gigabyte b550 gaming x v2 5600x 32 gb ram 1tb m2 samsung 980 non pro 1080ti 600 watt psu this was a fucking steal. glad i picked it up, was a 400km drive total (200 forth, 200 back) but it was worth it. i sold the gpu as i already had a 1080ti in my own rig, sold it for 175, so basically i got this pc for 325.... unreal!!!! i can still sell it on the same market place for 600-700 without the gpu. but i wont, the 7600x is nice but its not really an upgrade with that 20 fps more.
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Hi Jarrod, do you have a video on budget laptops in Australia? I'm trying to find a budget friendly laptop for fortnite plus normal everyday use e.g watching UA-cam, netflix etc.
Is it just me, or was there no intro to this video?
@@saturnotaku i think so too lmfao
@@viewer80 I do not as I don't focus on Australia given it's 3% of the audience. Only Ausralian specific content I have is this jarrods.tech/where-to-buy-a-gaming-laptop-in-australia/
Dude this was a great comparison! I didn't realize how much Zen has improved over the gens. Right now the 7600X is effectively a $600+ upgrade when you account for the platform. By the time the 3600 and 5600X really start showing their age, I imagine AM5 will be mature and newer Zen processors with their V-cache variants will be out. That's probably the best time to upgrade for most gamers
Agree, but you forget the Lcs cooler cost..a 400 bucks5800x3d no need, so double price for the new AM5 platform
I looked at upgrading my x470 2700 to a 5700x with b550 and it'll cost me £400. I got the 2700 and x470 for £200. It's gonna cost me double for last gen alone the prices are batshit.
From Past 4yrs gpu were in the hands of miners.
For gamers Best time is now to upgrade. when gpus are available & new overpriced Zen launched to proof intel 13 is superior 😂
@@nitins3801 Upgrade only for 12th to 13th, Ryzen 7000 is like new Pc build..and no any price/value benefit for both..AM4 will stay or upgrade to 5800x3d and 12th will stay too..so no such a Upgrade terms
@@nathaneddy502 No reason to buy b550, also 2700x is still capable-you can sell it for 80-100 bucks... stay on x470 and take later, when price drops, 5800x3d for gaming -400$ upgrade vs 7700x or 13700k platform price -or 5900x (was 350bucks on summer sales) for workloads and 5-10% less fps..Save what you can for better Gpu and don't be fooled by marketing, we have (they made) a economic crisis..
I think one of the key datapoints missing in most reviewers, is the 1% and .1% lows on the final comparisons. It would be really useful to see how much, on average of all games, you improve on the most important stutter metrics
Fantastic point, however it is normally very easy to see results but not understand or /feel/ them in regards to the lows
At most it is a single sentence in the review and at most it is someone saying “1%lows were higher which led to a much smoother gaming experience overall” which is effective whether your avg fps is 70 or 270
I reckon a comment on the 1%low is a great idea if only to start the conversation in the F P S and performance zeitgeist, to use big nerd words.
Big part of gaming is playing smooth
Excuse me. Im a novice in these benchmark thingys. What is these 1% things that u just mentioned earlier. I know that they are lower than normal average performance score but what do they represent for and how are they relevant in computer usage.
Sorry for my english. Its not my mother tongue
@@dokidoki5850 frame rate is not always smooth. 1% lows average the frame rate of the lowest 1% to show if there may be stutter. Eg. If you average 80fps but your 1% lows are 30fps you may perceive a stutter effect in the game. This was prevalent in the sli days as 2 GPUs could drastically increase frame rates but would induce a nasty stuttering effect. Which is one of the many reasons it fell out of favor.
@@dokidoki5850 /watch?v=uXepIWi4SgM
I don't include it because not all of my tests measure 1% lows, so it wouldn't be fair to compare it to the average unless I just skipped the games that don't measure them. That said, that was not the case with this specific game selection, so I guess I could have, but it's the reason I usually don't. In any case, the data is all there for you to work it out :)
r5 3600x user here. This video is perfect! And thank you for including 4k benchmarks as well. I wish more youtubers did this so we can see if an upgrade is truly worth it as 4k becomes more viable.
@@Ayzesh1868 sounds like you’re gonna use the pc for productivity tasks which means a higher core cpu would be more meaningful. Maybe like a 5700x. If your budget is higher then I’d look into 12 core cpus.
@@Ayzesh1868 grab a 5600. its similarly priced to 3600 and offers more performance out the gate. adobe will be fine. I don't have experience with premier so you might wanna ask around more for that.
@@Ayzesh1868 I have the same setup and it has been amazing!
@@Ayzesh1868 i wouldn't, you need more the 3600 with games that came out the last couple months, they make the cpu latency terrible, lots of lag, you need to upgrade at least 5600 now, these 3600 will be obsolete in a couple years that's for sure because there are already starting to feel the effects, I even got a 40 series gpu and it drags it down sometimes
Thanks for testing at 1440p and 4K in your CPU benchmarks. People often see 1080p results and rush out to buy a new CPU without realizing they were probably GPU bound.
Ye indeed! But also would be nice with Ultrawide testing, many have ultrawide now.
I dont understand how there are still 1080p gamers and they are upgrading… for what
@@shayeladshayelad2416 raytracing maybe? That's the only reason I can think of.
@@HenryOfGnarlia how much games support rt?😬
@@shayeladshayelad2416 because a lot of games you cant even get 144fps at on 1080p with modern hardware lol
3600 users could upgrade. But that cpu still has some life in it.
Yea but the 7600 price drop to 230 pn Amazon
@@kakot_t3330150 AliExpress non x versión but just the procesoe
Wait 7600 for 150$
came back a year later after revisiting this video today to say:
you're absolutely correct and well said, you've worded it the best
@@peepeepoopoo2973trying to decide what CPU to get for my daughter's build, 3600 looks mighty fine still for budget PC gaming but I suppose if the 5600 isn't that much more expensive might as well try for that. That thing is fast af still but idk.. unfortunately there's not much of an upgrade path after it as opposed to what the future upgrade impact of jumping from a 3600 to say a 5800x3d could be. But planning around uncertainty in the future is pretty dumb 🤣 I just think it'd be a nice bonus should she grow out of the 3600
Good video. The (obvious) thing is: 3600 & 5600x owners can upgrade to a 5800x3D without having to get a new motherboard and ram. I think a lot of people will be doing that.
Unless AMD has them pulled from retail shelves. Micro Center already pulled the 5800X3D nationwide and reintroduced the 3000 series.
Edit: They put them back up after 72 hours off the website.
or you just hold your wallet and wait till the prices goes down with B-mobos and you will buy ddr5 either way this gen or the next one but that doesn't mean you need to pay overpriced ones so I think wait is the best option imo
@@nazaG_89 Even if Boards were $125, the 3D is still better if you have AM4.
Hi can you help me with somthing can i put ryzen 5 7600x on motherboard wich have ddr4 or i need ddr5
I really liked your reasoning behind choosing the 3600 and 5600x to compare. Great video as always.
Friend has 3600 and rx5600xt 6GB and is happy
I have 5600x and RX6700XT 12GB and am happy
I think I will just sell the 6700xt and buy a 5700xt 8GB, cause I really dont need that power for my games.
@@ancientslav4863 You could just undervolt it and keep using it. I see no point in a 'downgrade'
Jarrod: "7600X is scoring 69% better compared to the 3600"
Also Jarrod: Nice
Me: Nice
Pity 5800X3D was not included as more viable alternative for AM4 users
The 5800X3D is GREAT for gaming but suffers in all other desktop applications from the lower clock speeds and lack of over clocking. The X3D does NOT perform well in all other applications other than gaming.
Damn 3600 is still actually holding up after all these years! One of the best CPU to be ever released!
So many ryzen cpus have had amazing performance over time. R7 1700, R5 3600, and im sure R5 5600x will be good til ryzen 9000 series if not longer
I’m surprised will be going to 4k soon and won’t have to worry about the cpu just a gpu upgrade
You know what really blows my mind however listening to people speak nowadays? ''oh the 3600 still hold up... after all those years...'' like what the actual fck is wrong with people? the r3600 was released in 2019. Its only 3 years old!... the r3600 is NOT an old cpu, yet people nowadays talk over it like its ancient. I remember people who sat OR still sit on the old budget student i5 2500k and even they play the most recent games without to much issue because games are mostly gpu bound and if it comes to cpu bottleneck its mostly a singlecore bottleneck and not the multicore performance you have for most people.
@@MaybeTiberius lol ikr. I just literally got a brand new 3600, and they started talking like it’s been around for ages.
3600 is still a new CPU. My 2012 3770k is still holding up in 2023, this can be told. 3770k is a legendary CPU for sure.
man. im just amazed how well the 5600x stacked up against the 7600x. not that much performance difference in the games that i play. theres really not much of a reason for someone like me with a 5600x to get the 7600x.
Plus it runs cooler and more energy efficient. I just upgraded from an i5 4690k to 5600X and the price difference of 5600X and 7600X was 100€. Not worth to go for 7600X in my opinion. Also the price skyrockets with gen 5 memory and motherboard
I'm on the 3700X, and thinking of upgrading to the 5800X3D. The chip matches AM5 performance in games!
I'm on 3600, thinking the same as you 😁
Been a Ryzen user since 1600
what GPU do you guys rock? is it really that significant on mid range GPUs?
EDIT: typo
@@zhila5958 No it aint...A 5800x3D only makes sense for premium highend gaming rigs
@@Dark88Dragon exactly. thank you very much
@@zhila5958 not by that much if the use case is only for gaming (I'd say it's pretty negligible). I use 6600XT.
That video was super useful for me. I was just thinking to upgrade my 3600x. And it seems like 5600X is the better option. Not much of a difference in performance compared to 7600x , but I don`t need to change the entire system.
I have a 3600 but that base clock for the 7600x is really tempting. My main game is Squad and that game requires a really good clock speed since its not optimized for multi-core.
This video is the reason I have the bell on for this channel. 3600 user with 3200MHz ram. It's been a great combo so far but I'm looking to upgrade real soon.
Not to throw shade on the bigger UA-camrs but I feel like Jarrod does much more work and goes much more in-depth on the data. For a single person to do that much testing, I feel like he deserves much more credit than he already has.
Cheers out to Jarrod!
Worth to mention that currently Ryzen 5 5600 is widely sold under the price below 150$, which is overkill deal.
Just built with Ryzen 5 5600 at £136 with PBO to X levels of performance.. such NAISS value but that may be self validating purchase lol
After revisiting this video, I might put off upgrading to AM5 till next year. Running 5600x w 7900 XTX on 4k144. Not even x3D but AM4 are really a great platform!
Damn Jarrod, impressed at your robust test suite since I last saw your channel. Def gonna keep coming back more often for those compile benchmarks!
Small note, although I personally benefit from LLVM compile benchmarks, you're covering more people if you use GCC since it's a lot more common in dev-libraries as a toolchain. And also bundled with Linux to begin with.
Thanks! I just use the LLVM test because it's part of the phoronix test suite, is there any specific benchmark to use to test that?
If I was in the market for a new PC today I think I would still stick with AM4 because there's plenty of parts and it's roughly $450 for an AM4 (CPU/MB/RAM) vs $700 for the AM5. Let the early adopters deal with beta testing the first version of AM5.
I got the 5600x yesterday for 130 dollars. I am coming from a 3600 and can’t wait to see the difference. MW2 seems to have issues with my current CPU. Hoping this helps run smoothly
Yoo, current r5 3600 user here. Can you letme know what performance increase you roughly get and on which games? Maybe good to mention the gpu youre using as well. Appreciated!
@@mikevandenouweland5301 so I use a 3060ti and I’m on 1080p. So far I’ve played the new MW2 and I am seeing anywhere from 40-80 fps gain and I have no more micro stutters.. definitely worth it!
i play with a 5600x and a 3060ti and get 120fps on everything high settings in MW2..it’s great. sometimes it dips into 90s but it’s overall around 100fps..all at 1440p as well
@@dakotamurphy225 saw this late, but im on 3600 and that fps drops in mw2 are killing me... is it worth it to go to 5600x? I have 3070ti with it, ik it bottlenecks but was waiting for a little longer to get a cheaper 7600x but apparently its too highly priced here..
@@rhythmsharma5745 I noticed massive gains I think you would be good
Ryzen 5 5600x might not be best in terms of performance but for a budget gamer, it is a more suitable choice mainly because of the much higher power consumption and heating in 7600x
However ppl that have it it's totally fine, we can see that the majority of games when it's GPU capped the difference is almost nothing and for ppl stretching for the highest FPS possible AKA competitive players 7600 is also not a CPU for them either, they should go higher so it really makes the 5600X completely fine at least for gaming and absolute 0 need of upgrading, they better upgrade later on like AMD AM5 2nd gen or 3rd gen...
EDIT: Forgot to say unless you hear China enters war, if that happen then you should go run right away and make a whole new PC with the 7600 or intel or whatever cause it will probably be very hard to buy PC parts or anything at all for quite some time, if that happens I will sadly have to go run to buy a GPU right away, until then I'm waiting for like RTX4060 or AMD equivalent next year...
@@guily6669 China? You understand that it's the anglo saxons stirring shit all around the world to maintain their hegemony yeah?
Lol. I have the base 5600 and that thing is still a beast paired with the 6700 non XT. Still a superior chip in terms of performance per dollar considering they can be had for around $130 now.
technically, the 5600X is still the best. Specially with the 7600x coming out, the 5600X now can be had at £100 (used).
3600 is still good. If you have a 2600/x version, might be best to get the 5600X atleast.
Just get a 7600x and use eco mode at that point you still get better performance than the 5600x minus the power draw and temperature
I used a 3600x from 2020-2022 and it treated me well for 1080p gaming with a 2060. I ended up going to a 5700x for 1440p gaming and I noticed better %1 lows and better average frames. I will stick with my 5700x for a while until AM5 prices go down. I am eyeing the 7800x3d but it is still $450 since it released recently
Finally some real benchmark that’s not sponsored by AMD to hell and back. I’ve purchased Ryzen 7 5800x for 180euros and will sell my Ryzen 5 3600 for 90. At first I thought it’s not worth the hustle, but gaining 2 extra cores and 4 extra threads, plus higher IPC combined with higher clocks just made me not want to miss the chance. Coming from ryzen 7 1700 I’ve always missed those extra cores after I switched to 6/12.
I see no real reason why anyone should move to am5 at this moment. Maybe once they release 3D variants or 2nd gen am5. Nice video! :)
AM5 is still at its first steps, would recommend to wait for 8600x for things to come down in pricing
It seems that current-gen games are not supporting new architecture yet. Maybe newer titles will show more difference!
Recently upgraded my 3600 with 7 5700x really cheap, and can definitely tell that there are less dips/lags.
In my personal opinion, I had a 3600x and upgraded to the 5600x and its still night and day to me, also I use a 5700xt at 1080p
snagged mine at my local best buy for about 250 USD
holy shit these past few gens have shown MASSIVE performance uplift its actually wild. goes to show what a little competition in the market can do
I can only imagine a 7800x3D. The performance will be revolutionary.
Yep and I think it's really needed to justify those high wattage...
it will lose to 13700k tuned, bruh.
@@CrackaSlapYa we don’t know as it not even here can’t say things until we actually see
The only one worth upgrading to
Upgrade from an a12 9720p laptop, so going from that to a 7600x is a legendary upgrade..
From a value perspective, 5600(X) destroys the 7600X by a huge margin, especially in non-US countries, where 7600X is literally double the price - without even accounting for the total platform cost. So no, you have to be pretty much dumb to ever consider this as an option, either get a 5600/5700X on the cheap, 5800X3D for games or 7900X/7950X for the "all-out" builds.
Or even better, waiting for Raptor Lake one month is worth it IMO.
Oh, and granted, if you don't have a high-end GPU, the difference is even lower.
You ought to make a vid on comparing an existing 3600 system upgrading to the 5800X3D vs the cheapest possible 7600x system.
I.e. a B350 board with a 5800X3D and 3200 MHz RAM vs the 7600X
Unfortunately I do not have a 5800X3D
Great comparison, I'm a little late to these processors but this was pretty helpful information.
I still have my old faithful 3600 upgraded some time ago from a 2600.....wasn't a huge leap but did offer me some extra frames....
Still a solid CPU considering it's age, it might last me maybe another two years or so, from that point I'm probably gonna go either Ryzen 7 and also upgrade my Mobo for DDR5 and 32 gigs of ram.....
Have a 3070 RTX, very good card will just migrate to my new one but for now all my games run perfectly fine 1080 mostly on max settings....
I game at 1440 p with 3600 and thought I'll be set with upgrade to used 3080 ti with the prices dropping. Now seeing how much better 5600x performs in 1440 p raised whole bunch of more questions. Thinking about also upgrading cpu now. Very informative
I'm in the same boat. Even if it didnt make loads of difference it's a relatively cheap upgrade. Same mobo and everythinf
I use Ryzen AM4, 5600x with 6900XT for my main PC at (1440p, 144hz ultra wide) and and 3400G with 5700XT for the HTPC (1080p, 60hz projector) so it will probably be a few more years before I need to look at AM5 since the 5800X3D will be the cheapest upgrade path for the gaming PC, and I can use the 5600x on the HTPC and move the 3400G to the media/ file server which is currently running on a old Synology potato.
At the moment the HPTC is just for playing Plex and emulation of my old PS2 and Wii U games so they never go over 60 fps anyway and the 3400G + 5700XT is already more than enough for that and won't need an upgrade for a long time.
Gonna be upgrading from 3400g to a 5600 (i have a dedicated gpu anyway) so i could pair an rtx 3080, i hope things go well and i wont have to worry much about bottlenecking. As far as i can see this wont really be a problem, especially at QHD. Wish me lucks!
The 5600 non-X has been $130 for half of October so far.
Yeah I ordered one last week, terrific value
depends on the country, in my place it's not $130
نعم اتفق انه قيمه ذهبيه خصوصا في بلدان لاتشتهر برخص اسعارها
Don't forget motherboard prices as well, theyre absurd
Just got my 5600, loving the savings haha.
Thank you for doing 4k testing, most review sites tend to just ignore it totally.
First of all. Great content.
Second. Upgrading to 7600X from AM4 is not really worth it (motherboard, RAM and CPU cost). Getting the 5800X3D is much better way since you only have to pay for the new CPU.
Excellent video! Thank you for letting me know I don't need an upgrade :)
I believe it deppends on where you live as well. 7600x is 400 euros here in my country while 5600x dropped to 195 brand new.
i like how even with eco mode, the 7600X has still decent performance with maximum 1-5% perfomance lost due to eco, which is neglectible because of higher overall performance of this CPU.
I'm upgrading my athlon 3000g to R5 3600 by this december. It's worth the wait and cash. It's just 128 USD in my country
Fantastic work! all info very clear
great detailed comparison as always! btw do you have plans of pitting the 7600x against the 12600k (both DDR5/DDR4)?
So essentially I'm gonna stay with the 3600. I may get a 6800 xt or similar best case scenario (and I don't feel like spending as much) and I guess my cpu is going to be just fine... maybe with a 4090 but i don't want to sell my car and switch to bike for it.
And AGAIN NO TEST when clocks are locked... Great job Jarod!
Blown away that you didn't mention the 5800X3D in place of the 5950 reference....
Yeah $300 7600X + at least $50 for the cooler. Will wait for Raptor Lake to check the difference but even now 13600K seems more tempting.
It's nuts you're getting 199FPS on max setting on the 3600 in COD WZ.
I get 100 to120FPS on medium high in WZ with my 3600, 32GB of 3600 ram, & a 3080 Ultra.
I think it's time for me to upgrade from 2600 to 5600x those prices are cheap af
Whenever I think about upgrading from 3600 to a higher CPU, then I check benchmarks, I cancel my plans 😂
bought the ryzen 5 5600x for 160$ on amazon, i hope there will be no regrets
Dude, I just noticed that you added figures for video performance - thanks
Actually the Ryzen 5 3600 with its 32MB L3 Cache is still a good CPU to pair with GPUs like RTX 2060, 3060, RX6650. I have all three CPUs tested here. One PC received upgrade from i7 2600 to Ryzen 5 2600 then replaced with 3600X. The jump in performance was significant and visible in daily use and games. Also switching to M.2 NGFF SSD is important.
I am still rocking my i5 3470 on my PC, time to upgrade soon. Not quite sure if AM5 is worth it right now though, 5800x3D might be the way to go for best price/performance.
Guessing by how long you change your CPU I would surely suggest AM4 platform and 5800x3d.
Games... focus on GPU... As shown, I deduced that uplifts are mainly seen in heavy workloads/renderings & etc... Most games doesn't utilized CPU like GPU....just get a CPU fast enough to not bottleneck your preferred GPU... PERIOD... As always, much appreciated choom... Cheers!!
Nice video, but I´m still happy with my R5 3600. As long all is smooth enough I will not upgrade. (Prolly wait for a ryzen 8600x. or 8700x)
IF you must know my specs its a: x570 board with stock DDR4 B-Die 3466 mhz ram. MSI OC RTX 3060TI, ASIO soundcart(s) and yep the R5 3600 (also on stock) 2x m.2 mvme ssd's with 3 normal ssd's.
If some 1 wants to know how cyberpunks runs? Its 55 to 65 FPS on ultra settings at 1440p. So I just putted all a tiny bit lower on high/ultra for a locked 75 fps cuz my screen is 75hz.
So detailed I can't even ask anything
Upgraded to Ryzen 7600.
In my case it was really worth it because it comes from a very old platform (Haswell i7-4770).
But whoever owns AM4 for sure at the moment is not worth it.
I'm in the same situation, my 4790k is getting retired, i was thinking on the 7600x, how the 7600 is treating you?
@@Eddinski I am very satisfied with the 7600. It is very powerful. It simply gets you through anything without much effort.
@@TheOdsystem Thank you! Here where i live, the 5600x is 280usd and the 7600x is 300usd, same with mobos and ram, ram=literally same price for same capacity, and mobo, a good b550m is around 260usd, literally they are selling b550m and b650m same price, is crazy ik, but argentina is wild thing 😅
I think am5 for a new build and this prices is a solid choice
@@Eddinski AM5 is definitely the best choice. You will not regret! If you find the 7600 non X you can save more, it practically has the same performance as the 7600x consuming less power and with lower temps.
The 7600 is great, but i really need per core power, so the 7600x and his frequency gives me that power i need in that specific scenario, anyway, so much thanks 4 your opinion dude, cheers from the 3rd world haha@@TheOdsystem
I'm using R5 3600 with my RTX 3080 on a ultrawide 35" 120hz screen with 2X8GB 3200hz RAM.
Since 3440x1440p is some sort of 2K resolution, which of the 1440p and 4K numbers will I be the best indicator for me?
Hmmm I was thinking of upgrading my 5800X to a 7600X but not sure now… Just to play Call of Duty 4K. Might go 7700X but will decide after watching your 7700X review.
With the 5600x/g is the best budget for a good performance . It support ddr4 4000mhz and updated PCIe which perform better than 3600 by a lot but not by large price difference . Expect to upgrade after 4-5 years time and resale value of these chips are great too
The 5700X is even a better choice for overall system performance including gaming, video editing, compression/decompression and MUCH more. As the olé saying goes the more CPU cores the better! The 5600G is a BAD choice as the 5700G is! I don't know about the 5600G but the 5700G only supports PCIE 3.0 and only has 16Mb of L3 cache which will CLAMP most newer components across the board!
@@johnszatkowski6898 yup but if you check the current price to performance ratio for the 6core 5600g. you really gain much more for the budget + performance while waiting for the new chipset /graphic card to drop price as compared to 3000series. 5700X is a good card no doubt with 25% more performance for daily usage but at a cost of nearly $100 -150 more.
5600x will be great for years for 2k and 4k resolutions... glad I didn't wait for the first am5 CPU and board
If you bought a pc today which one would you chose?
Amd Ryzen 5. 3600X i still working fine. Pc market is still pretty stuck with single core performance. To upgrade to 7600X i need to put down minimum 700$ for a good motherboard and memory. That is twice the price of my current motherboard and Ryzen5 3600X. I will wait 2-3 years and spend 400$ on GPU upgrade instead. Put my money where it's really needed.
I just bought 5600x am4 platform upgrading my 10 year+ old i7 4770k… lol
I honestly sort of regret not going for AM5. But honestly this should last me and won’t be needing to upgrade any time soon.
Yeah i did the same thing but because i won t be upgrading to am5 anytime soon. I m just going to wait for am6 or LGA 1851
I'm still gonna rock my 5600x with RTX 3070 and G.Skill at 3600MHz at 1080p resolution for the next few years.
Thank you. I'm just considering GPU upgrade from RTX 2070 to RTX 40xx (1440p gaming / VR) and I think I will carry on with my Ryzen 3600 for now. There will be a small CPU bottleneck but the cost of new CPU with all other hardware is not worth it yet. It might be interesting to add a VR game into the comparison next time 😀
if you get a 40xx rtx you can easily game in 4k
I have a 3600 with a 3080ti and I have no issues. 1440p at 100+ frames max settings.
@@oc31ot24 I get some issues with 3600 in some games like cyberpunk
I dunno if you need a 40 series card
I got a used 3080 for $450
Runs most games in 4K (not max settings in the absolute latest games but very high settings still) and the 12100f
As far as gaming, it works great.
Planning on upgrading the CPU for video editing but yeah if you're just gaming the 3600 should be fine along with a high end 30 series card
Upgrading from i5 2500 to an AM4 mobo with Ryzen 3600.
All I do is play games and being able to get the 1080p performance I want with my rx6600 and next gpu, I think it was
3000 and 5000 series are seriously big jump in term of p/p for now
good to find someone who shows lots of benchmarks for non-gaming apps too 🙂
I'm waiting for the 7950X3D being revaled at CES 2023
What I love is that the stock is really good, I wish raptor lake is better than zen4 because I already have LGA1700 board lol
It maybe 2~3% better and loose in productivity
Damn, even r5 3600 upgrade from my fx6100 is an ultra pro mega powerful update.
The 5600 non x is the best bang for the buck
at the moment you can buy...
Here in Germany i have bought it for around
€ 155 !
Unbelievable price for this CPU....(between 5600x
and non x there is nearly no difference)
Then i have a MSI B550M Pro VDH WIFI, Corsair
3600 DDR 4 memory, corsair 750 sfx PSU,
1 TB harddisk (NVMe 3.0), rx 6650 xt, 4 fans
and a wonderful small case, the Intertech
IM-1 Pocket.
This is a fantastic "shoe case" pc built...
Very small, and powerful.
Total cost of this "shoe box": € 890.
I think this is a very fine system and
more than enough for most casual
gamers....
Best regards from.....🇩🇪🤓
3600 and 6700 XT playing games on UW 34 1440p, works like a charm.
Hitting 75-144 fps in AAA games, ultra settings.
Hey man i am looking for this combo. I have r5 3600 now with rx 5700. I have only money for rx6700 xt. Monitor 1080 144hz what do you think about it do you like it , is this way to go ? How about your gaming exp
Great stuff. Be interesting to see the same benchmarks with a 4090. Can a 3600 with a 4090 provide the same (ish) performance as a 5600x/7600x at 4k (targettting max 120fps)?
It looks like if your GPU bound the 3600 is still fine.
The question is how much GPU power do you need before a CPU upgrade is required.
it does also depend on what you play and what resolution and hz
@@Bobalazs
"If your GPU bound"
For the games you play.
@@pweddy1 but you'll always be cpu bound with a 6700 xt.
I have a 2070 super and even at 1440p my CPU causes drops in some games. Especially open world like cyberpunk and AC odyssey
@@gamesmaster1060 that's exactly right, if you want to avoid framedrops, go as far with processor as your budget and your will allows
The 3600 is $79 and the 5600 is $149 at Microcenter right now. (For US viewers.)
Thank you for the details!
so, from this video, I make a conclusion that if you are buying a new rig, you should probably not consider Ryzen 3600 anymore (unless it's really cheap). But if you have one it might be more beneficial to upgrade your GPU first to see a noticeable improvement in gaming
3600 was bigger jump than 7700
What if gpu is only 3070? Would there be a diffrence in 1440p? I dont think so
Performance looks great I don’t want to swap motherboards tho
The only thing that really bugs me about and is it’s high temps I have a 5800x with admittedly rather a bad case and poor airflow still even undercooked that thing likes to reach 90 degrees which makes the fan noise quite annoying
Would be grat to see Ryzen 7 3700 vs 5800x3d vs 7700
At 0:02 , giant white letters in *ALL* *CAPS* are hard to read. Seriously.
The same complaint at 1:29 . omg
It seems AMD did exactly what Intel did and just pushed an enormous amount of power for the performance boost.
Nooot quite, as Jarrod mentioned, eco mode can limit power consumption and results in the best energy efficiency of all 3 processors tested with ~-5% performance hit. AMD just decided to run it at the max physical limits without incurring damage out of the box, whereas normally this is what overclockers do.
3600x and 2070super here on a budget... i am definitely waiting a bit longer...
I might consider upgrading from my Ryzen 5 3600 if the prices of motherboards and RAM were reasonable
Nah, im stick with 5600x for now. That power draw is a deal breaker for me. Since i play game at 1440p resolution by the way. As long as games is 60fps above at the 1440p, i have no reason to upgarde
The only real concern is power draw and power bills, gen 7000 has seen a lot of improvement in that department too
Just got a few of the 5600's for $149.99 each. What a bargain.
Nice one!
I dont regret getting a 7000 series cpu. Yes they run pretty hot but holy crap they are fast af. They completely destroy threadripper cpus from 1st and 2nd gen.
check tech yes video, undervolt it a bit.
@@Kanivalos80 im only hitting about 87c with pbo enabled. Dont see a need to. Its probably my thermal past tbh because im only using mx4 atm and plan to get kryonaut extreme.
The 5800 and 5700 would have +12-15 percent uplift.
The advantage CPU's like the 5600x is that it shines where lesser and some more expensive cpu's fail, in games that utilize higher core counts. Although its only a 6 core cpu, they are powerful and outperform some cpu's like the 10900 in certain situations. Right now you can pick up a 5600x for $150 usd.
I can get a 7600x for $200, buttttttttt 2 things - I can't find a satisfactory affordable motherboard of my liking and best thing = I got more then 1 water cooler and 2 AMD coolers that were made for socket AM4, but they might not be compatible and they're made by AMD. AMD done FFFFFFF'D up !!!!!!
i saw this add on the market place (netherlands ) for 500, gaming pc. it contains this:
gigabyte b550 gaming x v2
5600x
32 gb ram
1tb m2 samsung 980 non pro
1080ti
600 watt psu
this was a fucking steal. glad i picked it up, was a 400km drive total (200 forth, 200 back) but it was worth it. i sold the gpu as i already had a 1080ti in my own rig, sold it for 175, so basically i got this pc for 325.... unreal!!!! i can still sell it on the same market place for 600-700 without the gpu. but i wont, the 7600x is nice but its not really an upgrade with that 20 fps more.