The Only Mechanics You REALLY Need To Learn

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  • @GuilleVQ
    @GuilleVQ Рік тому +242

    Crazy that you didn't mention passes, fake plays, 50/50, fake challenges, or even demos and bumps. All of them are top 10 mechanics in my opinion.

    • @JustDrewski
      @JustDrewski Рік тому +6

      Agreed well everything but fake plays. Those are optional

    • @Vex745
      @Vex745 Рік тому +13

      @@JustDrewskifakes are top 10 imo, just because a good fake can keep the other team guessing for the rest of the game

    • @memegamingedits
      @memegamingedits Рік тому +11

      bro their not mechs

    • @Yretrub
      @Yretrub Рік тому +7

      That’s game sense it’s not mechs

    • @connorallan8080
      @connorallan8080 Рік тому +5

      50s is the only one I see as a mech. Demos is game sense. And basic car control. Fakes are an addition on whatever you faking.

  • @Bucko99
    @Bucko99 Рік тому +75

    If we're counting rotations I would redefine that as positioning in general and make it number 1. You literally cannot do anything useful unless you are in a position to do so. Other than that my list wouldn't have any major differences, so great video!

  • @hhaste
    @hhaste Рік тому +17

    Great list, however I would rearrange the top 5 a bit. I would put rotation at number 1, shooting at 2, aerials at 3, recoveries at 4 and air roll at 5. Maybe swapping 3 and 4, depending how new of a player you are. If you're new, recoveries would be more important than aerials.

  • @James_A_Woods
    @James_A_Woods Рік тому +9

    Tbh shadow defence is the only 1 I disagree with bc every game you will be in the position yo shadow defend multiple especially in low ranks where positioning is worse and ur tm8s need more time to recover

  • @TheDevil69270
    @TheDevil69270 Рік тому +15

    Great video ! I respect most of your takes. HOWEVER, how is flip canceling lower than chain dashing ? Flip canceling has been the key to better recoveries and better car control in general for me, as it allows you to make your car move and recover from flips in any situation !
    Also, I don't know if it's a mechanic, but I would have added 50s, and put it pretty high on the list !
    Thanks !

    • @Bucko99
      @Bucko99 Рік тому +1

      Completely agree

    • @Thanovic
      @Thanovic  Рік тому +4

      If I added 50s I would have definitely put them high on the list, I just forgot about them unfortunately, that’s on me! And you might be right on the flip cancelling, I just use the little chain dashes a bit more than I find flip cancelling useful

    • @TheDevil69270
      @TheDevil69270 Рік тому

      ​@@Thanovic I understand, I think we all get more into certain mechanics than others. I tend to flip cancel too much, pretty much on every flip now since I saw the MENA guys pretty much speed flipping on every hit for better recoveries, and that is not a good habit at my level haha
      Also, I'd love a chain dash tutorial from you. I know there are hundreds out there, but I can't seem to find any that are well explained to me ! At this point I only trust you, you're a great pedagog

  • @Kyle_Sha
    @Kyle_Sha Рік тому +301

    Hard to watch ❌ Hard while watching ✅

  • @MrGorillaspam
    @MrGorillaspam Рік тому +31

    The AppJack flip cancel shot might be my favourite RLCS goal. That shot was so clean

    • @Atomz09
      @Atomz09 Рік тому +4

      Bro ain’t no way lol

    • @rraaiin
      @rraaiin Рік тому

      if you think thats good watch some noflip goals

  • @hoon-kay4840
    @hoon-kay4840 Рік тому +4

    For me, I use a flip cancel whenever I do a half flip instead of using the diagonal half flip. It was easier for me to learn and get consistent, I feel like flip canceling should be a few spots higher up on the list. Also, if low 50/50s were on the list, they would definitely be 15-5, yes they are a 50/50 which is a really important part of the game aka 1-5, but low 50s are an extra step that is basically the brother of a basic dribble that is going towards the goaline. If you make a follow up to this video, definitely include them as they can be the reason you win in a game. Also this might just be nickpicking basic 50/50s however I thought I'd mention it anyways.

    • @Bmboo_
      @Bmboo_ Рік тому +1

      Diagonal half flip still requires a flip cancel, but idk anyone who uses that half flip, as cancelling a back flip and then air rolling is just more consistant.

  • @Trik_mxh
    @Trik_mxh Рік тому +1

    Thanks for including my clips at 0:40 and 7:27 !!!

  • @connorallan8080
    @connorallan8080 Рік тому +2

    Air dribble has to be higher up simply for the fact that it allows you to more effectively use any other aerial mechanic

  • @Snail678
    @Snail678 Рік тому +1

    As a new/bad player, anytime I see an opponent air dribble I know immediately we are going to lose. It seems like the most obvious "there is a skill gap" mechanic. I've been in gold games where a smurf air dribbled like 6 goals in a row and the final score was like 12-1. Perhaps at higher elos it cancels out due to everyone having better air control, but there is something to be said about its effectiveness in low elo. It makes it hard to even get a touch in lol. I would say its slightly underrated but I am full biased as someone with bad air control 😅

    • @sinewybug8415
      @sinewybug8415 Рік тому

      yeah its just control and understanding of the game. if someone is able to air dribble theyll likely have much better control of the car

  • @Fastissmooth
    @Fastissmooth Рік тому +1

    These kind of lists are always subjective but flicks being above powerslide is something I just cant buy at all.
    Playing a game without flicking the ball once would be okay. But try playing without powersliding 🤷
    Flicks and carrying the ball on top of your car is way too overrated. Bounce dribbling and powerslide cutting is much more effective and also safer.

  • @grayuhh
    @grayuhh Рік тому +2

    honestly its probably for the best that you didn't include zap dashes as a mech in the vid or any other variation of other mechanics other than wall dashes. Zap dashes are really just a modified wave dash which can be useful but timing has to very precise and can be difficult for some players to learn. Also I do genuinely believe flip resets should be higher on the list only because of the diversity that can be used with it, such as taking it up for an air dribble and getting a flip to beat the last defender or using it when going for a 50/50 in the air to get a better recovery, but other than these smaller things I do appreciate that you put shooting in the first spot as its a mechanic that I've seen players not being very good at and even some pros saying that they regret not working on their shooting more. Anyways I love the content as usual keep up the good work!!

    • @Matteroll
      @Matteroll Рік тому

      Yeah, you’re right about zap dashes there. In terms of just ranking up, you don’t need to learn it at all. But I just want to add that some pros have found it to be really useful. AppJack has said a couple of times that he thinks it’s really useful to get a burst of speed after recovering and he has used it quite a lot in RLCS. I’ve also seen Retals incorporate it into his gameplay even at the recent spring major.

    • @grayuhh
      @grayuhh Рік тому

      @@Matteroll oh ofc, but pros incorporate mechanics into their game a lot more than the everyday ranked grinder. I think zap dashes are good as something extra to learn if you really wanted to learn them like it wouldn't hurt to learn them but isn't needed to rank up.

  • @bendaniels9455
    @bendaniels9455 Рік тому +22

    Learning to redirect efficiently is easily a top 10 mechanic

    • @Bloo_M
      @Bloo_M Рік тому +2

      in higher ranks, yes. when players have better game sense, know how to pass forward and rotate, it makes sense. In lower ranks it usually means you overcomitted and are too far up field and should not expect a pass.

  • @grandoli1059
    @grandoli1059 Рік тому

    Only thing I disagree is learning backboard saves "the earlier the better". That will only lead low ranked players to go backboard instead of backpost all the time and mess up from there anyways. You dont even have to defend doubletaps and air dribbles below champ because they mess up so often in these ranks that you get more than enough open nets from it that you can compensate the few goals they actually score this way easily. And some of the basic mechs are missing like some comments say, but great list anyways and well explained!

  • @LukeRig
    @LukeRig Рік тому +1

    I’m mid gc1 and I can’t flip reset, ceiling shot, and can air dribble maybe 20% of the time 😅

  • @mrhuman5447
    @mrhuman5447 Рік тому +1

    Never fails to improve my game no matter what. Keep it up Ethan!

  • @trxvel_
    @trxvel_ Рік тому +2

    double jump is very underrated in lower ranks tbh

  • @BAaijLANCE
    @BAaijLANCE Рік тому +1

    Video idea?: most easily and fastest way how to change control bindings
    (Really need this) 😅

    • @Thanovic
      @Thanovic  Рік тому +1

      If you mean getting used to new settings, it’s just about repetition. The more you do, the more you get used to

  • @ryanvanderwinden6748
    @ryanvanderwinden6748 Рік тому +13

    I would say air dribble should be way higher since it improves your close ball control and first touches should be added as a mechanic

  • @AntNeedsBoost
    @AntNeedsBoost Рік тому

    I love this, what’s crazy is I feel like you can tell Than is a 2s/3s main just from the tier list and I think that’s wild

    • @Thanovic
      @Thanovic  Рік тому +1

      You actually can aye 😂 I haven’t played 1s in 3 or 4 seasons now

    • @AntNeedsBoost
      @AntNeedsBoost Рік тому

      @@Thanovic yeah I play a lot of ones and there was a few near the top (bounce dribbles mainly) where I was like, “yeah I think they should go higher because I play a lot of 1s”😂 but definitely a good list

  • @priyanshvyas3108
    @priyanshvyas3108 Рік тому +1

    ceiling shots should be higher up the list and pinch should be lower if compared to air dribble (completely my opinion)

  • @JXLY7
    @JXLY7 Рік тому

    Mom get the camera! Thanovic used my clips!!!
    Great video dude, good job showcasing the vast majority of essential mechanics. It doesn’t matter if people disagree on the order or if something is missing, the points you make still stand true.

  • @acherryswitch
    @acherryswitch Рік тому +1

    I don't exactly agree with everything on the list, of course shooting and dribbling and air roll, are the three most important mechs, BUT I would place half flips, airdribbles, ceiling shots, and double taps higher up on the list, double taps are very useful in 1v1, same as half flips.

  • @Lcsfld
    @Lcsfld Рік тому

    Arnos, u went crazy with this one. Props my guy

  • @zuluzen
    @zuluzen Рік тому

    10:46 when I was in gold nobody knew how to aerial, and as a plat people do hit aerials but they barely go and when they do hit it it’s basically a pass to the other team lol

  • @bmanjamin
    @bmanjamin Рік тому +1

    how are wave dashes and half flips not 1 and 2

  • @pxsucksatrl
    @pxsucksatrl Рік тому

    I would say bounce dribbles are only really super useful in the low ranks like bronze to diamond because the players dont know how to deal with them but they can be easily by higher ranks because you just leave to much space between you and the ball where the enemy can clear it away and they are becoming really predictable.

    • @blazekproductions6525
      @blazekproductions6525 Рік тому +2

      Watch peak oKhalid 1v1 games. Definitely useful in high ranks. Maybe not as much in 2s or 3s but for sure in 1v1

  • @Joeytjee
    @Joeytjee Рік тому +1

    I disagree with the placement of airdribbles. Im gc2 but i almost score an airdribble each game because people still find them hard to defend.

  • @Sp3dy-lv7pi
    @Sp3dy-lv7pi 6 місяців тому

    Bounce dribbling is often better than dribbling on the car as it more often beats multiple defenders

  • @ChuckTheDuck434
    @ChuckTheDuck434 Рік тому

    Editor needs a raise 🔥

  • @VskutkuTrigen
    @VskutkuTrigen Рік тому

    the issue with flip resets is that its really pretty much peak... its usefull but its hard... and this video is for plebs not for people with 4k hours in the game.... to do a flip reset u have to have very very good car control... u have to go to ball with "Ego" or u will just bounce off of it.

    • @Yute01
      @Yute01 Рік тому

      Eh, I taught a few of my friends with around 2k hrs, and they now use it frequently. Not a peak mechanic at all. Peak mechanics are things like Jakze resets and beautiful mustys 😂

  • @jamesgillispie-vc2dc
    @jamesgillispie-vc2dc Рік тому

    This is right along the lines of aircharged program he has on yt. Drastically underrated creator just like thanovic. I learned a huge thing im doing wrong just from this vid 😂❤

  • @skiwi_i
    @skiwi_i Рік тому

    i feel like 50/50s should be counted on this list. 50s are in my opinion one of the most underrated mechanics and if you're good at them its a really easy way to outplay opponents even with no boost.

  • @WaterLemon147
    @WaterLemon147 Рік тому

    I would say your biggest threat in plat and diamond while dribbling isn’t the opponent but your own teammate thinking you might be passing to them or just not knowing what your doing

  • @freychet6943
    @freychet6943 Рік тому

    love the video thanovic! thanks for including a couple of my clips ;)

  • @WaaluigiBoard
    @WaaluigiBoard Рік тому

    I knew as soon as I saw flip cancelling so low you would put speed flipping and half flipping higher on the list. Those require flip cancelling.

  • @justinwatts-dinkelman4250
    @justinwatts-dinkelman4250 Рік тому

    In my opinion i feel like being able to catch the ball should be next to dribbling but a little more important

  • @pappasimpson
    @pappasimpson Рік тому +1

    the doomsee dish is prolly in my top 5s

  • @Neaugy
    @Neaugy Рік тому

    50/50s is probably the only mechanic I pride myself on. 50/50s happen countless times in every game you’ll ever play and they 100% win games.

  • @brutalctg7654
    @brutalctg7654 Рік тому

    I personally think the off post turtle air dribble musty quad backboard reset into 360 maktuf reset is very competitively viable and hard to read but I respect the opinion 🙄

  • @hiowgobodayday6370
    @hiowgobodayday6370 Рік тому

    Ground passing can catch the defender off guard and is deadly when you perfect it

  • @zahvy
    @zahvy Рік тому +1

    The most important mechanic is learning with the intent to teach

  • @staraway9602
    @staraway9602 Рік тому +1

    the most important mechanic is learning how to drive the car

  • @Swift_Ikarus
    @Swift_Ikarus Рік тому

    I think some of your takes were fair and i could understand. But i definitely question flip canceling being so low along with breezi/musty having their own things when really they just a type of flick that can be useful for certain situations. Plus freestyle mechs being 31 is kinda sad to me because (i could be biased as a CCH) freestyle/harder to learn mechs are probably the most underrated thing for comp. No one expects anybody to randomly pull out a full field double musty (specifically with that shot, you have so many options). You can fake the first musty if they read you going for it again, you can get a high musty to get it over someone, you can get the 2nd musty to go backboard or over someone else and leave for teammates, ect. freestyle mechs just get trashed on for being hard and "pointless" when you "can" do something else but that something else can be easier to read. So if you practice freestyle mechs for comp, you just have a unmatched ability to be creative with your shots and be unpredictable. At a minimum you at least get a better understanding of your car.

  • @JoseTrovoes92
    @JoseTrovoes92 Рік тому

    Disagree with some, air dribble and flip canceling while not being op mechanics are the core to other mechanics, i dont think you can speed flip or flip reset without being able to flip cancel or air dribble...so i would argue those are more important mechanics to learn.

  • @Erwan_DL
    @Erwan_DL Рік тому

    I would have probably added Saves in there!

  • @GOOFYYTIGGY
    @GOOFYYTIGGY Рік тому

    just here to say this is a great video keep up the good work than

  • @Nizzuツ
    @Nizzuツ Рік тому

    Are preflips a freestyle mechanic? Because they can be useful in many situations

  • @Kookie_TV
    @Kookie_TV Рік тому

    When putting pogos so low, you really have to define what you mean. While the freestyle pogo is utter garbage, wall pogos and crossbar dashes are extremely useful if you can get them consistent.

  • @billkindig137
    @billkindig137 Рік тому

    I knew that #1 would be shooting. Strongly agree.

  • @NorthToAntarctica
    @NorthToAntarctica Рік тому

    I would say boost management/ boost rotations are top 10

  • @chrisscales2435
    @chrisscales2435 Рік тому

    A bad habit I created is constant air roll I’m now getting out of it slowly and now I’m getting close to hitting champ

  • @Q8EDITZz
    @Q8EDITZz Рік тому

    I agree on all of them this rlly helped
    Dont hate just cuz ur training something he didnt say

  • @ImMeech
    @ImMeech Рік тому

    If you can add 50-50s as a mechanic where would it go?

  • @Yerocco
    @Yerocco Рік тому

    As a diamond, I’m the absolute best player ever at missing open nets. Can’t believe that mechanic/skill wasn’t included.

  • @RaylinDavis-c7e
    @RaylinDavis-c7e Рік тому +1

    I disagree with all of this so I shouldn’t learn air dribble??

  • @Marcus-le_créateur
    @Marcus-le_créateur 4 місяці тому

    Bro the penta heli reset tripple musty double touch is a lot more importamt cause,cause...its very impressive...and yeah your opponent gonna instant forfeit...

  • @ZarianPalma
    @ZarianPalma Рік тому

    Can you make a video on why you shouldn’t need a coaching program to rank up?

  • @ESGymNo2
    @ESGymNo2 Рік тому

    Every single mechanics video ever. Fundamentals

  • @ConradCarner-uo1nr
    @ConradCarner-uo1nr Рік тому

    How can you forget about saves, fakes demos, bumps, passes dribling. But great list.👍🏻

  • @JonkRL
    @JonkRL Рік тому +2

    Coach Jonk Approves 😎

  • @PocoLoco7474
    @PocoLoco7474 Рік тому +2

    Ball control on air like air dribbling can be insanly useful, if you master air dribbles you can score from almost anywhere

  • @monkeking_2144
    @monkeking_2144 Рік тому

    I think you should factor in the amount of time needed to learn the mechs because a lot of people that watch your channel aren’t even champ, and if they see that flip resets might be a good option for offense they are most likely going to attempt learning them.

    • @Thanovic
      @Thanovic  Рік тому

      Someone pulled out a stat recently that something like 70% of my viewers ares champ. I’ve also asked a few times and majority are champ. But yeah that’s a good point

    • @monkeking_2144
      @monkeking_2144 Рік тому

      Also I’m plat and I can do a decent bounce dribble. For low ranked player in at least high plat, bounce dribbles are top 10

    • @monkeking_2144
      @monkeking_2144 Рік тому

      @@Thanovic oh well my bad. I knew it would be a good amount but not by that much.

  • @djniggobischoff9004
    @djniggobischoff9004 Рік тому

    I wouldn't consider rotation a mechanic. And bounce dribbling should be way higher on the list, bounce dribbles are better than dribbling/flicks if done correctly in my opinion

  • @greasy_waffles9446
    @greasy_waffles9446 Рік тому +1

    #1 has gotta be phyco’s

  • @Jrockusc
    @Jrockusc Рік тому

    After watching zen, I’d say chaining wavedashes could move up this list ALOT in a few years. Idk though, I’m a season 14 GC who has awful mechanics 😂😂

  • @kangwakowa8370
    @kangwakowa8370 Рік тому

    I recommend Thanovic!

  • @cedi2929
    @cedi2929 Рік тому +1

    Boost Management on 1 fo sho

  • @Boca8683
    @Boca8683 Рік тому

    Breezie above sidewal redirects idk about that one

  • @SnowtimeRL
    @SnowtimeRL Рік тому

    I ran into alphakep in 1v1, he won 5-2, but I scored a nice air dribble bump on him

  • @jake.5877
    @jake.5877 Рік тому

    btw that clip at the start from "jakze" isn't jakze idk who that is but it wasn't him lol
    was wondering why it was so bad relative to how good jakze is... as he would never clip something like that lmao

  • @turnatablefroglegbiscuit3533

    immediately thought of spookluke when you said redirects lmao

  • @George-li1yv
    @George-li1yv Рік тому

    One fundamental thing I think you missed is 50/50s. I'd put 50s top 3 easily

  • @bensoncharly4700
    @bensoncharly4700 Рік тому

    i was gc3 last season but this season i am stuck in c3 in 2s. any tips?

  • @jam8munch811
    @jam8munch811 Рік тому

    I'm surprised driving wasn't number 1 on this list!

  • @jamster251
    @jamster251 Рік тому

    Good list :)
    But Only one team-based mechanic in a 3 v 3 game? That seems not right.

  • @chs5321
    @chs5321 Рік тому

    Great video very poggers info

  • @Gimmy27
    @Gimmy27 Рік тому

    😭😭😭 Thanovic out here encouraging everyone to use airdibble bumps

  • @t0ast647
    @t0ast647 Рік тому +1

    Hear me out… driving

  • @sinewybug8415
    @sinewybug8415 Рік тому

    can someone explain to me how air dribble bump is above air dribble?

  • @johnsmall4045
    @johnsmall4045 Рік тому

    Thanovic are Demo's good for threes?

  • @leventeszaffenauer4142
    @leventeszaffenauer4142 Рік тому

    You mean directional air roll right?

  • @BrightFameOak
    @BrightFameOak Рік тому

    I know you included aerials, but Fast Aerials should have been on the list.

  • @Fade_______
    @Fade_______ Рік тому

    Are tornado spins important when you use airroll?

    • @mrlychee38
      @mrlychee38 Рік тому

      yes

    • @Yute01
      @Yute01 Рік тому

      Basically, learn how tornado spin/reverse tornado spin, it's situational. Knowing how to reverse air roll from an air dribble position is essential to learning resets.

  • @sjort8605
    @sjort8605 Рік тому

    preflips should be on this list

  • @reed6514
    @reed6514 Рік тому

    I like the list, but not everyone needs to train. It's a game, have fun. If you like training, train. If you like to just play, just play

  • @stareczamor127
    @stareczamor127 Рік тому

    how i can see that after 10 sec of publish?

  • @shosii9737
    @shosii9737 Рік тому

    Why is airdribble lower than flip resets. You need to be able to do a normal airdribble and have good control, before you tryna learn flip resets

  • @danilo-rr
    @danilo-rr Рік тому

    What about demo’s?

  • @someonesomewhere8658
    @someonesomewhere8658 Рік тому

    Flip resets above air dribbles? Make that make sense, one is literally a precursor to the other. Should have logically been far higher, lol

  • @ericblack8154
    @ericblack8154 Рік тому

    Plats watching this video: “ He didn’t mention passing! See! I don’t have to give the ball to anyone!!!”

  • @YourMMRMMRboy
    @YourMMRMMRboy Рік тому

    W editor

  • @marekspulle8523
    @marekspulle8523 Рік тому

    I'd say speed flip is a bit higher

  • @ryan-wi7rm
    @ryan-wi7rm Рік тому

    How can aerials be #2 when u can get gc without it

  • @fizzosoda
    @fizzosoda Рік тому +1

    Me who submitted a curve dash 😐

  • @ScholarsRoot
    @ScholarsRoot Рік тому +1

    Can I edit you a montage I am a professional editor

  • @qbound7399
    @qbound7399 Рік тому +1

    You missed Passing on the list

    • @brutalctg7654
      @brutalctg7654 Рік тому +1

      Don't think that is a mechanic but more strategy ig. Passing is technically just hitting the ball right

    • @qbound7399
      @qbound7399 Рік тому

      @@brutalctg7654 Everything is just hitting the ball right 😂

  • @bradybrady1
    @bradybrady1 Рік тому

    Yes!! Thanks you

  • @emerson2821
    @emerson2821 Рік тому

    It saddens me how shadow defending is considered hard, not by you but I mean just the community in general, has no one ever played hockey, soccer, basketball, etc… in their lives?
    2nd note, where’s passing?? Might not be ranked super high but if it was a high rank list (GC+), it would definitely be up there, and even more so at the pro level.
    Last, just to prove how important rotation and recoveries are, I was able to win an SSL tournament not too long ago with what me and those randos (now friends) considered one of the worst teams we ever each had, cause we played so horrendously but still somehow won (we were all low-mid GC2 MMR at the start of the tourney). How did we win then? All we had were rotations specifically where we had each others’ backs all the time, and were able to do so with great recoveries all around. Nothing else, we were all having a terrible day (heavy and clunky), unable to do any advanced mechanics, shooting accuracy was terrible (srsly we ended with generously like a 10% goal to shot conversion rate).