Voigtlander killing it recently. I currently have the 50 APO and 28 Ultron ASPH for my M10-R. Great price to performance ratio. Will be adding this next year along with the recently announced 50 f/1.0 ASPH
For many years a 90mm Lens was my "normal" Lens which I used a lot, but for the last 5 to 10 years my most used Lenses are 60mm and 135mm, sort of "back to the future" as I used the 135mm when I began as a Photographer in 1979. I still have my trusty Tamron SP 90mm 2.5 Adaptall-2 which I sometimes use. But I have been looking at the Leica M 90mm Macro because it is so compact.
Matt, this is the best Christmas gift of 2021. Fine B&W photographs made in the snow in Poland. The VOIGTLÄNDER APO SKOPAR 1 : 2,8 - 90 is a must. With a Kodak Tri-X it will make the analog Leica CL a super camera.
Thanks Jaco! I was shooting Kodak Double-X 5222 that I bulk rolled for the trip so those to come :) (I will reply to you other comments too,, thanks for checking out so many vids!)
Very nice. I can’t keep up pace with all the recent Voigtlander releases. They are on rocket fuel at the moment. On a separate note If you ever do a workshop in Poland I’d be very interested. I live in the Tricity not far from Gdańsk. I’ve noticed you come over fairly often.
Hi Costas, yes for sure re. Voigtlander. Yes I was in Gdansk as you saw. Happy to tie in with you for a workshop next time. Please sign up to MrLeica.Com so you keep up to speed on when i'll next be in Poland then feel free to reach out. (I send a free monthly newsletter).. and its on Patreon too. Love tricity!
Plenty of great shots, and a solid review of the lens. I just bought a Summarit 90 in mint condition for less than £1.000. It's a perfect lens in a three lens setup,( 28-50-90). Keep on rolling!
Thanks, you see why I travel there. Sadly 9 of 15 models cancelled, perhaps due to Covid times (get full info on Patreon soon) but hopefully better next time.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom ... and why I spend most of my time in SE Asia. .. and also why, when I have to be in Australia, I mostly take lenses for landscape only. 😁
Yes please, give the Hasselblad SWC a review. I like the Hasselblad SWC a lot though I do not like rangefinder cameras, I wish for a modern digital version with a very good EVF. I have used the SWC, but for myself I got the Zeiss Distagon 50mm 2.8 (Excellent Lens !!!) for the Hasselblad 2000FC which worked best for me.
Nice images; remind me the memorable time my family spent in Gdansk right before its lockdown in April 2020. Those lions must had been covered by the snow. As for the Leica 90 mm, I think the tele-Elmarit (thin version) is a bargain.
I liked your observations on this lens. I owned at one time a 90mm f2 Summicron that I sold mainly, despite having been CLA'd over by DAG to get it as good as it could be, still seemed to lose contrast at f5.6-f8. I suspect it was due to worn aperture blades. I am seriously considering this lens as I like the filter size the lens has. This will work well with my 35mm and 50mm summicrons I owned. Judging from your tests, I expect it to be very good. Thanks for the review!
Another tempting review, but I just got the vintage Elmar 9cm f4 in perfect condition including a hood for €90 😊. I think I was lucky with an unnoticed auction on ebay. I have an older LTM version without hood, but it flares so much. The "new" M version is perfect. But still, I saw the Voigtländer for €699,- not bad at all
I don’t need it but I want it. Unfortunately anything like this is off the table for me for the foreseeable future for me. Was momentarily confused by the snow until I realized you were working in Poland.
Thanks Jon! Yes if you see the start of the video I confirm I am in Poland for the next 3 lens reviews.. though we had some snow in the UK earlier this month too.
Hej I made some of those Gdansk pictures as well but without the snow :) Now I just need to work on matching on your model photos haha. Love the design of this lens it would fit nicely on a M3
Hey man.. Please do a video on light meters and your experiences using manual light meterless cameras. Do you use light meters on your shoots (when using really old cameras)? Or are you one of those people who is a light Jedi! Your experiences of failing in this matter. Would be interesting to hear about it. Cheers. Keep smiling! It's the best part of your videos man haha. Merry Christmas!
Thanks I covered this on a Patreon zoom call some months back. I will try to make a video in the new year for YT as I will have a new meter I can share.
Thanks Darren! Yes another great performer from Voigtlander. See the sample photos in the blog link before you buy if you want to see some images full res.
Thanks I have my name on the list to get the new F1 so I will review as soon as I can get it. I might not be able to compare to the TT as I dont have that but perhaps as the channel grows.
As you may have noticed I am going back in your video series to watch some older stuff I am interested in and I really dig your channel. I love your city B/W of this video and your editing (I am not a preset kinda person, I rather edit every shot from scratch although a patter is often to be seen) . Since 2015 I am in Capture One camp cause LR heavily disappointed me and although they manage to update LR to a more acceptable RAW convertor for the present time, it is still not my cup of tea anymore (e.g. LAYERS ??). The images are really creating a mood fitted to the old city, beautiful. I also like your taste of models (just for photography that is, although the eastern woman facial expression is sometimes very obvious ) . I have been to your site to look at the portrait shots with this lens but the skin of those woman scared the hell out of me. Female skin should not be in focus to mitigate the natural unevennesses . Have you gone wild on clarity. Allow me to advice you to go to Peter Coulsons channel and look how proper B/W facial editing should be done. There is a lot to lear there for everybody. Anyways, great review from this affordable lens, like always. IMO Voigtlander can be happy with your reviews and vision. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks RS. Yes great lens and thanks re city shots. The weather helped. Yes I open images in PS to use layers if I want to edit something to post to say Flickr etc. I don’t retouch the skin unless obviously blemishes so it won’t look airbrushed like others might do. I quite like pores on the skin but I know everyone has their preference. (Mine probably comes from shooting film, I’m not going to blur the nice film grains if I shoot a girl on film)
Great review 👌👍 and beautiful photos 📸 has this 90mm lens have more contrast and sharpness than the 50mm apo lens you reviewed recently? I use voigtlander lenses on my Fuji cameras 👌
Thank you! I did not have all APO lenses at the same time to compare. I think the 35 and 50 are probably slightly sharper at f2.8 but all amazing stopped down a bit.
The TTA is much softer. Can’t compare. If want sharp/ resolution/ calibrated get Voigtlander. For soft dreamy look and for non-M body get TTA (I’m not anti TTA, I’m testing a lens now and it’s great, video to follow)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Interesting to see you that used the Leica SL2 with M lens. I love total the new SL2. So far, however, I have not been able to buy. Leica doesn't have prices everyone can afford. But who knows maybe in a few years it will be mine. I really liked the 90mm you presented and the photos. I have subscribed to your channel so I will be well informed about the Leica program. Thanks and best regards...
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Can you me please 🙏, sending the Link from the video that you have me recommended to watch? in your UA-cam canal? Thank you I will gladly watch it. Greetings.
I have a leica 90mm f2.5 summarit, don’t understand why it doesn’t get noticed. It’s fast for a 90, it’s very small and compact, the images are very sharp. It’s hard to focus but not a show stopper, and the price for Leica lens…can’t be beat. Some of my personal best portraits are with this lens.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I only mention it because size weight and bulk alway seem to dominate your likes, when you add low price for Leica lens and image quality I’d think you’d jump on this sleeper lens.
@@williaminbody205 thanks yes. I compared it to other 90s I own and mentioned the Tele lens as I knew someone would call me out if I didn’t ha. I forgot the Summarit!
@@williaminbody205 I don't know why you would say that because I've read many reviews of all of the Summarit lenses from various sources & they all praised the Leica Summarit 35, 50, 75 & 90mm lenses favourably. The only criticism was that the build quality wasn't quite up to the standards of the higher priced Leica lenses. I own a Leica-M Summarit 35mm f2.4 ASPH lens & I think it's very good lens indeed. it's a shame that Leica stopped making them.
Thanks again for another great review, Matt. Wondering whether you have tried this lens with an adapter on a Sony body? I followed your advice last year and bought a CV 35 Ultron 1.7 w/adapter and its images are remarkable on my a7riii.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom sharp enough in the center... now with the higher megapixel sensors I can put a portrait face in the center and crop 5x7 or 8x10 around it so edges go soft away from the face.....
One of my favorite 90mm lens is the Leica 90mm f/2.8 Elmarit R. I don't know if it's the same optical formula as the M version, although I doubt it since the R version is a retro focus design. It's very contrasty with gorgeous colors. My other 90mm lens is a Leitz-Minolta M-Rokkor 90mm f/4. It's a dandy little lens. Thanks for this video. The 90mm focal length for M cameras too often gets over looked. And my final 90mm lens is a pre-war 90mm f/4 Elmar. I bought it a few months ago for US$125. I haven't shot with it yet but it's a beautiful specimen of early vintage Leica.
Hi Matt, watched your review and ended up buying this lens for my M240. Quick question I have is which lens I should select in manual lens selection that matches this lens. Thanks for your help.
Hi Billy, I fell for the same "trap" and ending up getting the lens too :) ..too good not to have. I don't use lens profiles as i'm used to shooting film. You could try the closest lens listed, a 90mm f2.8 Elmarit (should be on there without looking).
Can you compare this lens to the Voigtlander 75mm f1.5 ? For B&W APO isn't a big issue. Its a 350g lens takes a 58mm filter, costs $1,000 USD. Its almost 2 F- stops faster. I would think shallow DOF would be better with this lens. Got excellent B&H owner reviews on both film and digital cameras, including CL where its 112mm FOV.
For portraits the 75 easily wins. I have since got that lens for myself after testing it a year ago. Very good lens and see the cover photo of that video. That answers your DOF question! :) I will use on M, SL and CL + S5.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom In the review you said you would not buy the lens since your mind sees in 50mm. I often say the same "not another lens" and then I cannot stop myself from ordering just another lens. They call that GAS it gets us all. BTW that model is my favorite of your models, she has those Angelina Jolie lips and those hooded eyes and the curly hair, she is stunning. I have both the SL2 and CL.
@@zenjitsuman thanks, yes I get caught by GAS too. I like a full toolkit of lenses even if I use 50s the most. See next video for more photos of the same models. :)
6:13 Mounting a full-frame lens on a crop body does not give you more compression; all it does is give you a narrower angle of view. As far as compression goes, a 90mm stays a 90mm no matter the sensor size.
@@MrAlb3rtazzo Compression is a measure of the apparent distance between foreground and background (and can altered *only* by changing camera to subject distance). Angle of view is a measure of how much fits in your frame at a given distance (and can be altered either by changing focal length or by changing sensor size).
@@MrAlb3rtazzo for me more compression means the background appears larger in the photo where narrow would be to crop in on any photo but the background does appear larger (closer) in the photo.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom “More compression means background appears larger”: that’s an acceptable way of paraphrasing it, if you mean “… background appears larger *relative to* foreground/subject”. My point then is that mounting a full-frame lens (90mm or whatever) on a crop body does *not* make the background appear larger (relative to foreground/subject); you just *see* less of it, bc less fits in the frame, due to the crop factor. (What *would* make the background appear larger relative to foreground/subject would be an increase in camera to subject distance while holding the distance between subject and background fixed.)
Very impressive lens! Thanks Matt for a very informative review.....as always! Do you use a clear filter to protect any of your lenses? Beautiful pics! Cheers!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks for the reply. Yeah I have the 40mm M-Rokkor. It is nice. Would like to get the APO for my Minolta CLE but can't justify it for now. PEACE ☮
Putting cost aside, I assume you would still go for the Voigtlander over the Leica 90mm Macro Elmar since you note it is sharper than the Leica? I am looking for a small, optically excellent 90mm to go with my M11 for travel and general use, and was planning on the Macro Elmar, but now the Voigtlander seems like it would be a better choice. I prefer the smaller size of the Macro Elmar but you have to extend it anyway to use it, and if the Voigtlander is sharper I would prefer it, especially with the 60mp of the M11...
Will the Voigtlander 90mm f/2.8 Apo-Skopar work properly on a Sony a7 series camera (E mount) when an adapter is used? Because Sony uses sensor stacking, will there be any image degradation (e.g., smearing, coma, vignetting, and astigmatism) in the corners at maximum aperture? Thanks?
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom It seems like the same optical formula, just one blade less than VM mount version. I am still wondering if I will manage accurate focusing with my D850 body, as opposed to my MF lenses on a Sony MILC body. Any tips?
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I ended up buying this lens and I did not regret. Focusing on stationary subjects are not that difficult at all and the rendering is quite outstanding. Even sharpness wide open is on par with my Sony GM lenses. Of yourse moving subjects are a different story... so I admire your portrait and model shots even more now.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom , I wonder if you experienced the same phenomena Jack Takahashi noted in his review... "My review copy did not focus correctly on my M10 (it frontfocused especially at longer distances). Fred Miranda states in his review that he tried three different copies, none of which were calibrated right on his M10-R. Other people have posted about similar problems on forums. Given this, many would conclude the following: Voigtlander is doing a bad job at calibrating these lenses, and they should be avoided. However, I tried my review copy on two different M11 cameras at the Leica store, and it appeared to focus perfectly on both. This, to me, suggests another possibility: There is significant variation between camera bodies in flange distance and/or rangefinder calibration. Voigtlander is making this lens properly, but unfortunately it may or may not focus accurately on a specific camera body depending on this variation. To get even more conjectural, it could also be that the M11 is more accurately calibrated than previous models, and that’s why my lens worked well on the M11 but not my M10" Thanks, Matt!
Matt, Is it safe to assume that the nikon mount has same performance vs the leica m mount? The nikon version seems to be so small its hars to believe its a 90 mil focal length :) Nice vid as always
Thanks! Another viewer said similar re. the Nikon version. I think it is the same optics but the VM is optimised for M mount/ RF cameras as I understand.
The Nikon version looks so much smaller because the flange is longer. The VM version is the same, just with the added "spacer" to use it on a "mirrorless" camera, and rangefinder coupling.
Hi Matt, nice video, could I ask something related to Leica SL? I heard a lot of issues about EVF brightness on the Leica SL, is this something bothering you when working with the camera in dark or light situations? I am interested to get one but still finding more news about it.
Hi, sorry i'm a bit behind on comments.. i've never noticed a problem with the EVF. You can use PAS mode to see in the dark anyway so it woould never be an issue.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom My morning starts always early . I have an aged mother . Soon be 91 years of old . Me also , soon be 67 . Thank you very much . My mother is now eating her breakfast on her electric nursing bed . Dec. 20th 2021 Mon. 07:53 am from Yokohama City Japan
It's as if they took the design of the 90mm ELMARIT "Fat" version and added modern optics. BTW - I've never seen a proper review of that lens. You could be the first!
Hi Matt, I’m very interested in buying this 90mm lens for close up wild flower photography for an ethereal soft bokeh look. If it produces more compression in DX mode (135mm FoV) that would be great. I was interested to hear you say this lens (or any lens) shows more compression on APS-C cameras than on full frame. I have a Nikon Z 7 (full frame) which has a DX mode whereby the Field of View is limited to the centre areas of a lens and halving the resolution of the sensor. Is this the same photo effect as shooting on an APS-C camera? I haven’t used the DX mode yet but I thought I understood that although the DX mode would limit the field of view thereby magnifying the image on the sensor, the compression wouldn’t change because the optics of the lens would be the same in both cases. Have I got the wrong end of the stick here? Many thanks.
Hi Christian, DX mode means crop in camera rather than crop on computer. Both give identical look. APS-C does the same but as no extra cropping you retain all 24mp say (vs. 50% crop results in giving 12 MP photos as comparison. I hope that helps! Matt
Hi Matt, I don’t normally ask questions but I’m pulling my hair out, what hair I have left anyway. So here’s my question I just purchased said lens on this video for the Leica SL, but I can’t get focus peaking to work with it. It works with my AF sigma 45mm. Is there something I need to do or doesn’t it work with the Voightlander. Love the videos by the way
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I have used manual lenses before on Nikon’s that have have no FP. I have turned all the FP buttons to on but I’m no success Hender the frustration. This is my first Leica though
@@davidw2454 FP is not from the lens it’s camera body specific so if camera has it all lenses show FP. Vintage and all. I think you might just need to turn something on. I’ll check once home. Message me via MrLeica.com 👍🏻
hello sir 😁 which one would give better subject separation ? voigtlander 90 2.8 or voigtlander 75 1.5? i already have a 7artisan 75 1.25 and i wonder if i’d better upgrade the 7artisan to voigtlander 75mm 1.5 or adding a 90mm 2.8 to the lens kit?
Hi Chris, easily the 75mm 1.5. Combine the length x aperture x MFD if ever trying to estimate (not literally but those 3 combined). Yes 1.5 is a big step up vs. 1.25
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom hi Matt, thanks. I actually have all my fathers Leica cameras and lens that he left me after he passed away 3 years ago. I’ve decided now to sell them all as I don’t particularly use film cameras. I’m not sure the best place to advertise them all as I would prefer to sell the lot in one go really. Any ideas? Thanks.
I briefly owned this lens in Nikon mount...... same glass? I don’t know. But I didn’t like it at all. Lots of vignetting, ugly bokeh, not overly sharp.
Sorry it here. Maybe you had a bad copy as these are certainly not sharp. It's one of the sharpest 90mm lenses I've used and I continue to enjoy it in M and F mount.
Yes please, give the Hasselblad SWC a review. I like the Hasselblad SWC a lot though I do not like rangefinder cameras, I wish for a modern digital version with a very good EVF. I have used the SWC, but for myself I got the Zeiss Distagon 50mm 2.8 (Excellent Lens !!!) for the Hasselblad 2000FC which worked best for me.
Voigtlander killing it recently. I currently have the 50 APO and 28 Ultron ASPH for my M10-R. Great price to performance ratio. Will be adding this next year along with the recently announced 50 f/1.0 ASPH
Agreed! I got the 28mm after making that video I was so impressed :) I will be testing the f1 so stay tuned!
For many years a 90mm Lens was my "normal" Lens which I used a lot, but for the last 5 to 10 years my most used Lenses are 60mm and 135mm, sort of "back to the future" as I used the 135mm when I began as a Photographer in 1979. I still have my trusty Tamron SP 90mm 2.5 Adaptall-2 which I sometimes use. But I have been looking at the Leica M 90mm Macro because it is so compact.
Yes the Macro is amazing but not cheap. I bought for the size and close focus ability originally. I think I remember that you are not in the UK?
I just found out your channel, I'm stunned about the creativity and quality of your work.
Thank you! Very kind. Find more on MrLeica.com
Matt, this is the best Christmas gift of 2021.
Fine B&W photographs made in the snow in Poland.
The VOIGTLÄNDER APO SKOPAR 1 : 2,8 - 90 is a must.
With a Kodak Tri-X it will make the analog Leica CL a super camera.
Thanks Jaco! I was shooting Kodak Double-X 5222 that I bulk rolled for the trip so those to come :) (I will reply to you other comments too,, thanks for checking out so many vids!)
Definitely, keep them coming, best lenses on the market at the moment:)
Thank you Andrei! I'm trying! :)
Very nice. I can’t keep up pace with all the recent Voigtlander releases. They are on rocket fuel at the moment. On a separate note If you ever do a workshop in Poland I’d be very interested. I live in the Tricity not far from Gdańsk. I’ve noticed you come over fairly often.
Hi Costas, yes for sure re. Voigtlander. Yes I was in Gdansk as you saw. Happy to tie in with you for a workshop next time. Please sign up to MrLeica.Com so you keep up to speed on when i'll next be in Poland then feel free to reach out. (I send a free monthly newsletter).. and its on Patreon too. Love tricity!
Plenty of great shots, and a solid review of the lens. I just bought a Summarit 90 in mint condition for less than £1.000. It's a perfect lens in a three lens setup,( 28-50-90). Keep on rolling!
Thanks Paul! Congrats on the Summarit, I enjoy my 50 of those. It's a keeper even next to Crons and Luxs :)
Man those polish models. Incredible.
Thanks, you see why I travel there. Sadly 9 of 15 models cancelled, perhaps due to Covid times (get full info on Patreon soon) but hopefully better next time.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom ... and why I spend most of my time in SE Asia. .. and also why, when I have to be in Australia, I mostly take lenses for landscape only. 😁
Great job Matt, stunning photos with these awesome lenses!
Thanks Ron!
Yes please, give the Hasselblad SWC a review. I like the Hasselblad SWC a lot though I do not like rangefinder cameras, I wish for a modern digital version with a very good EVF. I have used the SWC, but for myself I got the Zeiss Distagon 50mm 2.8 (Excellent Lens !!!) for the Hasselblad 2000FC which worked best for me.
Nice images; remind me the memorable time my family spent in Gdansk right before its lockdown in April 2020. Those lions must had been covered by the snow. As for the Leica 90 mm, I think the tele-Elmarit (thin version) is a bargain.
Thanks Wilfred, yes I love Gdansk! Look out for more images in the next 2 videos. :)
This is already on my wish list when I saw it was coming. Once I can fund it, I will order it.
Thanks TW, another good lens from Voigtlander :)
There is also the Minolta M-Rokkor 90mm f4 which can be had for about USD220 (in 2023).
Yes! I have the 40mm Minolta. Super light and compact.
Nice! Seems kinda like a spiritual successor to the Tele-Elmarit, which I like a lot.
Thanks, yes a nice lens, especially the size and weight for me
I would love to see the Zeiss 85mm F4 compared to these.
Thanks yes hopefully if I can grow the channel I can get access to Zeiss glass in the future.
I’m enjoying the Voigtländer 90. As compared to my Leica Pre APO Summicron 90 it’s much lighter and sharper but lack the Summicron magic.
Thanks Felix! Yes the older Summicron 90 I have is one of those magic lenses for sure.
I own the pre Apo Summicron: Perfectly adjusted and clean from service - what magic do you mean? 🥲
I liked your observations on this lens. I owned at one time a 90mm f2 Summicron that I sold mainly, despite having been CLA'd over by DAG to get it as good as it could be, still seemed to lose contrast at f5.6-f8. I suspect it was due to worn aperture blades. I am seriously considering this lens as I like the filter size the lens has. This will work well with my 35mm and 50mm summicrons I owned. Judging from your tests, I expect it to be very good. Thanks for the review!
Thanks Gary, yes I was impressed!
Yes more SWC videos
Thanks!
Another tempting review, but I just got the vintage Elmar 9cm f4 in perfect condition including a hood for €90 😊. I think I was lucky with an unnoticed auction on ebay. I have an older LTM version without hood, but it flares so much. The "new" M version is perfect. But still, I saw the Voigtländer for €699,- not bad at all
Thanks Kim, yes the old Elmar is still a great lens but yes you need a hood on it. (I do anyway).
I don’t need it but I want it. Unfortunately anything like this is off the table for me for the foreseeable future for me. Was momentarily confused by the snow until I realized you were working in Poland.
Thanks Jon! Yes if you see the start of the video I confirm I am in Poland for the next 3 lens reviews.. though we had some snow in the UK earlier this month too.
Hej I made some of those Gdansk pictures as well but without the snow :) Now I just need to work on matching on your model photos haha. Love the design of this lens it would fit nicely on a M3
Hey thanks Thomas! I can organise a workshop in Gdansk one time for you if you'd like (get in touch).. and yes for sure on the M3! :)
Hey man..
Please do a video on light meters and your experiences using manual light meterless cameras. Do you use light meters on your shoots (when using really old cameras)? Or are you one of those people who is a light Jedi! Your experiences of failing in this matter. Would be interesting to hear about it.
Cheers.
Keep smiling! It's the best part of your videos man haha. Merry Christmas!
Thanks I covered this on a Patreon zoom call some months back. I will try to make a video in the new year for YT as I will have a new meter I can share.
Nice one, Matt. I’ve been waiting for a review of the lens since it was announced. Looks like a really good 90mm option for my M
Thanks Darren! Yes another great performer from Voigtlander. See the sample photos in the blog link before you buy if you want to see some images full res.
My next lens hopefully
Nice! I enjoyed it on the film M and the digital bodies.
The answer is always yes 😊
Ha thanks James, I know! :)
looking forward to the new Nokton 50 f1 video....please compare it to the TT.95
Thanks I have my name on the list to get the new F1 so I will review as soon as I can get it. I might not be able to compare to the TT as I dont have that but perhaps as the channel grows.
As you may have noticed I am going back in your video series to watch some older stuff I am interested in and I really dig your channel.
I love your city B/W of this video and your editing (I am not a preset kinda person, I rather edit every shot from scratch although a patter is often to be seen) . Since 2015 I am in Capture One camp cause LR heavily disappointed me and although they manage to update LR to a more acceptable RAW convertor for the present time, it is still not my cup of tea anymore (e.g. LAYERS ??).
The images are really creating a mood fitted to the old city, beautiful.
I also like your taste of models (just for photography that is, although the eastern woman facial expression is sometimes very obvious ) .
I have been to your site to look at the portrait shots with this lens but the skin of those woman scared the hell out of me. Female skin should not be in focus to mitigate the natural unevennesses .
Have you gone wild on clarity.
Allow me to advice you to go to Peter Coulsons channel and look how proper B/W facial editing should be done. There is a lot to lear there for everybody.
Anyways, great review from this affordable lens, like always.
IMO Voigtlander can be happy with your reviews and vision.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks RS. Yes great lens and thanks re city shots. The weather helped. Yes I open images in PS to use layers if I want to edit something to post to say Flickr etc. I don’t retouch the skin unless obviously blemishes so it won’t look airbrushed like others might do. I quite like pores on the skin but I know everyone has their preference. (Mine probably comes from shooting film, I’m not going to blur the nice film grains if I shoot a girl on film)
the photos are actually quite amazing.
Thanks Jimmy, great lens!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom no you’re great Matt, it’s not just the lens. Maybe consider doing more street/travel stuff other than portraits?
Cool review, as always!
Thanks Lugen!
Be great if they made some newer LTM lenses!
I hear you William! Yes I agree so much! (Come on Voigtlander, you are our best hope!)
Great review and fantastic images! Does anyone know if this lens can be adapted for use on the Hasselblad X1D II ?
Thanks, yes great lens! It should be OK yes, many adapt M lenses to the Hassy bodies.
Great review 👌👍 and beautiful photos 📸 has this 90mm lens have more contrast and sharpness than the 50mm apo lens you reviewed recently? I use voigtlander lenses on my Fuji cameras 👌
Thank you! I did not have all APO lenses at the same time to compare. I think the 35 and 50 are probably slightly sharper at f2.8 but all amazing stopped down a bit.
Nice review! Thank you! If possible, please compare this lens with TTartisan 90mm f1.25 lens. cause I'm confusing which lense is better for me.
The TTA is much softer. Can’t compare. If want sharp/ resolution/ calibrated get Voigtlander. For soft dreamy look and for non-M body get TTA (I’m not anti TTA, I’m testing a lens now and it’s great, video to follow)
Great video recensione. Thank you very much.. Greetings from Switzerland 🇨🇭
Thank you!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Interesting to see you that used the Leica SL2 with M lens. I love total the new SL2. So far, however, I have not been able to buy. Leica doesn't have prices everyone can afford. But who knows maybe in a few years it will be mine. I really liked the 90mm you presented and the photos. I have subscribed to your channel so I will be well informed about the Leica program. Thanks and best regards...
@@cesarecannavo1134 thank you! I use the cheaper older SL. See the video, it’s great!
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wow... it look like it's a great 135mm for my CL 🙂too long for the M and still do not have an SL ...
Thanks Jerome! Yes a nice size on the CL for sure :)
I have a leica 90mm f2.5 summarit, don’t understand why it doesn’t get noticed. It’s fast for a 90, it’s very small and compact, the images are very sharp. It’s hard to focus but not a show stopper, and the price for Leica lens…can’t be beat. Some of my personal best portraits are with this lens.
Thanks William, I'm not anti-Summarit as I really rate my 50. Sorry to overlook it for this video.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I only mention it because size weight and bulk alway seem to dominate your likes, when you add low price for Leica lens and image quality I’d think you’d jump on this sleeper lens.
@@williaminbody205 thanks yes. I compared it to other 90s I own and mentioned the Tele lens as I knew someone would call me out if I didn’t ha. I forgot the Summarit!
@@williaminbody205 I don't know why you would say that because I've read many reviews of all of the Summarit lenses from various sources & they all praised the Leica Summarit 35, 50, 75 & 90mm lenses favourably. The only criticism was that the build quality wasn't quite up to the standards of the higher priced Leica lenses. I own a Leica-M Summarit 35mm f2.4 ASPH lens & I think it's very good lens indeed. it's a shame that Leica stopped making them.
Thanks again for another great review, Matt. Wondering whether you have tried this lens with an adapter on a Sony body? I followed your advice last year and bought a CV 35 Ultron 1.7 w/adapter and its images are remarkable on my a7riii.
Thanks! Sorry I’ve not tried Sony but I hear some M lenses perform less well on Sony. Perhaps worse with wides so 90mm might be ok.
images look very crisp.... still have my 1960's collapsible 90 Elmar f/4 and 90 f/2 Summicron
Thanks Stuart, yes! Your pair of Leicas are all you need though :) . .Cron is very sharp stopped down a little.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom sharp enough in the center... now with the higher megapixel sensors I can put a portrait face in the center and crop 5x7 or 8x10 around it so edges go soft away from the face.....
@@stuartmeador8993 Nice! Yes for portraits I often only consider the centre.
OMG Matt. Please do more landscape
Thanks! I will if I go somewhere nice 👍🏻 stay tuned!
Nice images, but what about the Minolta rokkor m 90mm f4? I love it.
Thanks Minolta should be good too. I've not used that lens but I enjoy my Rokkor 40mm f2.
One of my favorite 90mm lens is the Leica 90mm f/2.8 Elmarit R. I don't know if it's the same optical formula as the M version, although I doubt it since the R version is a retro focus design. It's very contrasty with gorgeous colors. My other 90mm lens is a Leitz-Minolta M-Rokkor 90mm f/4. It's a dandy little lens. Thanks for this video. The 90mm focal length for M cameras too often gets over looked. And my final 90mm lens is a pre-war 90mm f/4 Elmar. I bought it a few months ago for US$125. I haven't shot with it yet but it's a beautiful specimen of early vintage Leica.
Yes! The R is nice but I tend to pick up smaller M lenses, guilty but I usually need stuff to travel with so R kit is usually too big.
Hi Matt, watched your review and ended up buying this lens for my M240. Quick question I have is which lens I should select in manual lens selection that matches this lens. Thanks for your help.
Hi Billy, I fell for the same "trap" and ending up getting the lens too :) ..too good not to have. I don't use lens profiles as i'm used to shooting film. You could try the closest lens listed, a 90mm f2.8 Elmarit (should be on there without looking).
Can you compare this lens to the Voigtlander 75mm f1.5 ? For B&W APO isn't a big issue. Its a 350g lens takes a 58mm
filter, costs $1,000 USD. Its almost 2 F- stops faster. I would think shallow DOF would be better with this lens. Got excellent B&H owner
reviews on both film and digital cameras, including CL where its 112mm FOV.
For portraits the 75 easily wins. I have since got that lens for myself after testing it a year ago. Very good lens and see the cover photo of that video. That answers your DOF question! :) I will use on M, SL and CL + S5.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom In the review you said you would not buy the lens since your mind sees in 50mm.
I often say the same "not another lens" and then I cannot stop myself from ordering just another lens.
They call that GAS it gets us all. BTW that model is my favorite of your models, she has those Angelina Jolie lips
and those hooded eyes and the curly hair, she is stunning. I have both the SL2 and CL.
@@zenjitsuman thanks, yes I get caught by GAS too. I like a full toolkit of lenses even if I use 50s the most. See next video for more photos of the same models. :)
Hello Matt.
Which profile do you use to apply for the APO SKOPAR 2.8/90mm and the Leica SL?
Hello, I don't use profiles but pick a 90/2.8 profile for that lens.
6:13 Mounting a full-frame lens on a crop body does not give you more compression; all it does is give you a narrower angle of view. As far as compression goes, a 90mm stays a 90mm no matter the sensor size.
Thanks for better explanation. correction Lugen
what is the difference between " compression " and " " narrower angle of view" ?
@@MrAlb3rtazzo Compression is a measure of the apparent distance between foreground and background (and can altered *only* by changing camera to subject distance). Angle of view is a measure of how much fits in your frame at a given distance (and can be altered either by changing focal length or by changing sensor size).
@@MrAlb3rtazzo for me more compression means the background appears larger in the photo where narrow would be to crop in on any photo but the background does appear larger (closer) in the photo.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom “More compression means background appears larger”: that’s an acceptable way of paraphrasing it, if you mean “… background appears larger *relative to* foreground/subject”. My point then is that mounting a full-frame lens (90mm or whatever) on a crop body does *not* make the background appear larger (relative to foreground/subject); you just *see* less of it, bc less fits in the frame, due to the crop factor. (What *would* make the background appear larger relative to foreground/subject would be an increase in camera to subject distance while holding the distance between subject and background fixed.)
Very impressive lens! Thanks Matt for a very informative review.....as always! Do you use a clear filter to protect any of your lenses? Beautiful pics!
Cheers!
Thanks Lucy, I own a lot of UV filters but tend not to use them (perhaps stupidly) I like small and max image quality (without)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Makes sense. Wishing you a very Happy Holiday Matt!
The Nikon mount version of this lens is absolutely tiny. Very nice lens.
Thanks for info! I looked at the SL version for my Nikon F cameras in the past
Wonderful images!
Just curious if you tried the Minolta M.rokkor 90mm F4, yet?
Thanks and regards
Thanks! I’ve not but their 40mm is nice. It’ll probs my be similar to a Tele-Elmarit (nice but not as perfect as this APO)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks for the reply. Yeah I have the 40mm M-Rokkor. It is nice. Would like to get the APO for my Minolta CLE but can't justify it for now.
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Putting cost aside, I assume you would still go for the Voigtlander over the Leica 90mm Macro Elmar since you note it is sharper than the Leica? I am looking for a small, optically excellent 90mm to go with my M11 for travel and general use, and was planning on the Macro Elmar, but now the Voigtlander seems like it would be a better choice. I prefer the smaller size of the Macro Elmar but you have to extend it anyway to use it, and if the Voigtlander is sharper I would prefer it, especially with the 60mp of the M11...
Hi Peter, yes the Leica is great for size and is probably better in the corners but for my portrait work i'd go with the Voigtlander.
After watching the video definitely will get Voigtländer 90mm. What adapter would you recommend for sl2?
Great lens! I’m using it again currently..you see it in last nights video. I like Novaflex adapters for L-M.
Will the Voigtlander 90mm f/2.8 Apo-Skopar work properly on a Sony a7 series camera (E mount) when an adapter is used? Because Sony uses sensor stacking, will there be any image degradation (e.g., smearing, coma, vignetting, and astigmatism) in the corners at maximum aperture? Thanks?
Hi same answer as 75mm. Should be better still as longer than 75mm but haven’t tested.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thank you so much for your response!
damn, i just got a elmar-c 90mm... this seems like a better deal all round.
Nice! I have the little Elmar in LTM for screw mount. Great value.
Good stuff Matt! Would you happen to know if the Nikon mount version has the same optical formula?
Thanks, I believe so yes but i've not tested the Nikon one. It looks amazing though!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom It seems like the same optical formula, just one blade less than VM mount version. I am still wondering if I will manage accurate focusing with my D850 body, as opposed to my MF lenses on a Sony MILC body. Any tips?
@@zollieuncle9647 you should be fine on Nikon. Use focus confirmation perhaps.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I ended up buying this lens and I did not regret. Focusing on stationary subjects are not that difficult at all and the rendering is quite outstanding. Even sharpness wide open is on par with my Sony GM lenses. Of yourse moving subjects are a different story... so I admire your portrait and model shots even more now.
Thank you for this excellent review, Matt! Did you have any issue with rangefinder calibration?
Thank you! Over the years yes most of my M have been recalibrated.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom , I wonder if you experienced the same phenomena Jack Takahashi noted in his review...
"My review copy did not focus correctly on my M10 (it frontfocused especially at longer distances). Fred Miranda states in his review that he tried three different copies, none of which were calibrated right on his M10-R. Other people have posted about similar problems on forums. Given this, many would conclude the following: Voigtlander is doing a bad job at calibrating these lenses, and they should be avoided.
However, I tried my review copy on two different M11 cameras at the Leica store, and it appeared to focus perfectly on both. This, to me, suggests another possibility: There is significant variation between camera bodies in flange distance and/or rangefinder calibration. Voigtlander is making this lens properly, but unfortunately it may or may not focus accurately on a specific camera body depending on this variation. To get even more conjectural, it could also be that the M11 is more accurately calibrated than previous models, and that’s why my lens worked well on the M11 but not my M10"
Thanks, Matt!
@@gregpantelides1355 hi I’ve not seen this but one person wrote to me saying similar. I said return it for another copy.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks, Matt!
Matt,
Is it safe to assume that the nikon mount has same performance vs the leica m mount?
The nikon version seems to be so small its hars to believe its a 90 mil focal length :)
Nice vid as always
Thanks! Another viewer said similar re. the Nikon version. I think it is the same optics but the VM is optimised for M mount/ RF cameras as I understand.
The Nikon version looks so much smaller because the flange is longer. The VM version is the same, just with the added "spacer" to use it on a "mirrorless" camera, and rangefinder coupling.
@@godscola thanks yes I saw the Nikon, it does look amazing! (Size) Maybe I need it for my Nikon’s :)
Any chance you can review the 75mm color-color heliar for nikon?
Hi, if I get one yes. I love Voigtlander lenses on my Nikon film bodies!
Hi Matt, nice video, could I ask something related to Leica SL? I heard a lot of issues about EVF brightness on the Leica SL, is this something bothering you when working with the camera in dark or light situations? I am interested to get one but still finding more news about it.
Hi, sorry i'm a bit behind on comments.. i've never noticed a problem with the EVF. You can use PAS mode to see in the dark anyway so it woould never be an issue.
How do you think it compares to the Leica APO-Summicron-M 90mm?
I'd like to think the Leica APO is better and f2 gives nicer portrait DOF. I use the older Cron 90 f2 Pre-ASPH which is even better for portraits.
Thank you very much .
Dec. 20th 2021 Mon. 04:46 am
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Thank you!! Now you should sleep! :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom My morning starts always early .
I have an aged mother . Soon be 91 years of old .
Me also , soon be 67 . Thank you very much .
My mother is now eating her breakfast on her electric nursing bed .
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@@gii_vannile greetings from England to you both!
Cool review, will it work well on a m8?
Thank you! Yes of course, just remember the added crop factor so 117mm approx (1.3x crop)
Wow!!
Thanks!
It's as if they took the design of the 90mm ELMARIT "Fat" version and added modern optics. BTW - I've never seen a proper review of that lens. You could be the first!
Thanks Robert, ah really, great! I'm normally last :)
Hi Matt, I’m very interested in buying this 90mm lens for close up wild flower photography for an ethereal soft bokeh look. If it produces more compression in DX mode (135mm FoV) that would be great. I was interested to hear you say this lens (or any lens) shows more compression on APS-C cameras than on full frame. I have a Nikon Z 7 (full frame) which has a DX mode whereby the Field of View is limited to the centre areas of a lens and halving the resolution of the sensor. Is this the same photo effect as shooting on an APS-C camera? I haven’t used the DX mode yet but I thought I understood that although the DX mode would limit the field of view thereby magnifying the image on the sensor, the compression wouldn’t change because the optics of the lens would be the same in both cases. Have I got the wrong end of the stick here? Many thanks.
Hi Christian, DX mode means crop in camera rather than crop on computer. Both give identical look. APS-C does the same but as no extra cropping you retain all 24mp say (vs. 50% crop results in giving 12 MP photos as comparison.
I hope that helps!
Matt
..and this 90mm is sharp and contrasty. If you want softer look at vintage Leica 90mm lenses with the f2 being most dreamy looking.
Hi Matt, I don’t normally ask questions but I’m pulling my hair out, what hair I have left anyway. So here’s my question I just purchased said lens on this video for the Leica SL, but I can’t get focus peaking to work with it. It works with my AF sigma 45mm. Is there something I need to do or doesn’t it work with the Voightlander. Love the videos by the way
Thanks David, is this your first MF lens? One of the SL buttons (bottom right of the back 4) cycles through different views including FP’ on or off.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I have used manual lenses before on Nikon’s that have have no FP. I have turned all the FP buttons to on but I’m no success Hender the frustration. This is my first Leica though
@@davidw2454 FP is not from the lens it’s camera body specific so if camera has it all lenses show FP. Vintage and all. I think you might just need to turn something on. I’ll check once home. Message me via MrLeica.com 👍🏻
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I think I sorted it Matt you have to press the lower right oblong button next to screen.
@@davidw2454 yes that’s it, it cycles through 4 views, one is FP 👍🏻
hello sir 😁 which one would give better subject separation ? voigtlander 90 2.8 or voigtlander 75 1.5?
i already have a 7artisan 75 1.25 and i wonder if i’d better upgrade the 7artisan to voigtlander 75mm 1.5 or adding a 90mm 2.8 to the lens kit?
Hi Chris, easily the 75mm 1.5. Combine the length x aperture x MFD if ever trying to estimate (not literally but those 3 combined). Yes 1.5 is a big step up vs. 1.25
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thankyou for your insight.
i’ve tried the 75 1.5 today and i’ll save up for the lens 😁😁 y r awesome!
Anyone interested in buying my Leica M5 in excellent condition?
Maybe on FB? Where are you based? I can ask my Patreons
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom i am in devon, near exeter. thanks.
@@looneylozzer I have a Patreon group zoom tomorrow night, I’ll mention it 👍🏻
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom hi Matt, thanks. I actually have all my fathers Leica cameras and lens that he left me after he passed away 3 years ago. I’ve decided now to sell them all as I don’t particularly use film cameras. I’m not sure the best place to advertise them all as I would prefer to sell the lot in one go really. Any ideas? Thanks.
I briefly owned this lens in Nikon mount...... same glass? I don’t know. But I didn’t like it at all. Lots of vignetting, ugly bokeh, not overly sharp.
Sorry it here. Maybe you had a bad copy as these are certainly not sharp. It's one of the sharpest 90mm lenses I've used and I continue to enjoy it in M and F mount.
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Haha thanks Chris. I am very average but I try to travel to find the "things" I like to photo.
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Yes please, give the Hasselblad SWC a review. I like the Hasselblad SWC a lot though I do not like rangefinder cameras, I wish for a modern digital version with a very good EVF. I have used the SWC, but for myself I got the Zeiss Distagon 50mm 2.8 (Excellent Lens !!!) for the Hasselblad 2000FC which worked best for me.
@@cameraprepper7938 thanks, yes it’s a great camera / lens for sure. I have the Distagon f4 but not the f2.8.