A New Opponent! - What's His Power Level?? || Morphy vs Harrwitz (1858) Game 2
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This is the story of the birth of modern chess - when the possibilities of chess as an art, a science and a sport all converged.
The point of convergence was a young boy from Louisiana named Paul Morphy. At a time when America was seen as a backwoods nation with little cultural history and even less intellectual impetus, at a time when chess was considered the exclusive property of a few European countries, at a time when the game was played successfully by a handful of men wizened by years, Paul Morphy, in the brief span of 19 months and with seemingly little effort, defeated conclusively every player he met.
While today few non chess players even know his name, he was one of the most famous celebrities of his time and within the hallowed halls of the chess playing community he is considered by some as the greatest chess player of all time.
But this diminutive, unassuming boy rose to fame almost out of nowhere and once he secured his place in history, he retired back into that hazy unknown, shunning the public eye, never again to play serious chess. Not only was he one of great practitioners of the game, but also one of it's greatest enigmas. He's been given the sobriquet, The Pride and Sorrow of Chess.
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Paul Morphy vs Daniel Harrwitz
Morphy - Harrwitz (1858), Paris FRA, rd 2, Sep-??
Philidor Defense: Exchange Variation (C41)
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 ed4 4. Qd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7 6. Bc6 Bc6 7. Bg5 Nf6 8. Nc3 Be7 9. O-O-O O-O 10. Rhe1 h6 11. Bh4 Ne8 12. Be7 Qe7 13. e5 Bf3 14. gf3 Qg5 15. Kb1 de5 16. Re5 Qg2 17. Nd5 Qh2 18. Ree1 Qd6 19. Rg1 Kh7 20. Qe3 f5 21. Nf4 Qb6 22. Qe2 Rf7 23. Qc4 Qf6 24. Nh5 Qe7 25. Rde1 Qd7 26. a3 Nd6 27. Qd4 Rg8 28. Rg2 Ne8 29. Qc3 f4 30. Rh1 g6 31. Rhg1 Qd5 32. Qe1 Qh5 33. Rg5 Qf3 34. Qe6 Rf6 35. Qe7 Rg7 36. Qe8 hg5 37. Qe1 Qc6
Materials used in research:
Paul Morphy: Pride and Sorrow of Chess by David Lawson
The Genius Of Paul Morphy by Chris Ward
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Based on an internet search, the approximate value of a franc in the late 1850s or early 1860s was 2 francs for $1. Doing an inflaction calculation on $147 from 1858 is roughly $4700 in 2021. Also according to an internet search, in the 1860s the franc was said to be around the same value as 0.3 grams of gold. With today's gold price at $55 per gram, 295 francs (or 88.5 grams of gold) would be around $4800 today. So an approximate answer is something a little under $5000.
how much time did it take u?
@@denisss9281 maybe 5 minutes, not too much. I did it while watching the opening of this game.
Thank you for your service.
You, sir, are an excellent spreader of vast knowledge.
Its always good to hear that the value of gold (and silver) is so stable over decades of time while fiat is devalued
Me: "Ooh, black's Rooks are not connected! I would totally move the Knight-"
Agad: "One could easily blunder by moving the Knight-"
Me: "..."
lmao same thing happened to me while I watched :D
I also would have played ...Nf6 all day. It connects the rooks, gets your knight off that awkward e8 square, brings another defender over to help the king. There's a reason why i play against the computer on easy.
Every time Agad talks about Morphy's stories it feels like he's talking about a legend fictional character of chess.
That first casual game sounds like something I would pull on one of my cousins
They must not have pool hall hustlers in France.
finally we found out who was in paris
Was ti not the fellas?
Morphy would be sick on a track with Kanye and Jay lol.
Afro american men
It was the kfc loving men
@@iftachbarnea8223 what...
Agadmator please keep adding historical information to the games to appreciate the atmosphere of the events, the history, the Paul Morphy Saga :)
This Howard Staunton sounds more and more like a Dragon Ball super villain, that you only get to defeat after having faced like 200 minions.
Or maybe he was just running from Morphy
Staunton: cant play friday I'm in class.
Morphy: Call me when you have no class
I feel like Morphy probably lost that first casual game on purpose to play the match lol
Really feels like Morphy was chess Hustling. Lossing a few games on purpose to get a match
@@jamesknapp64 sounds like chess hustling and playing for money in the bars was quite common in those days . If morphy wins first game he's not going to get a game so sounds a definite
Seems like a spoiler
He definitely threw that game
Well he got his ass handed to him in this game so the loss was probably genuine
How good a defender this Mr Harrwitz! was!!! Really impressive defense!
The Paul Morphy saga are the best videos on this channel. Respect
Agadmator: My bot avatar should also include Medo because he's a pretty big deal.
Also Agadmator: I rearranged my setup such that you can't see Medo on my own channel.
😭😭
Yes, Medo is a great background entertainer!
It is at this point that Antonio conceded the inflation calculating move.
He said there was nothing more to be done.
His position was lost.
These 15 to 20 minute videos just seem to pass like the breeze, perfectly weighted! Love this channel!
Me casually: hmm could that knight possibly be trapped by that pawn push? Nah that sounds dumb... I should really verify tiniest of leads
i just need to say the new and improved non pixelated frame looks amazing big tony!
Hey man just subscribed Your channel has sparked BACK up my interest in CHESS, so Shout Out to YOU
"There is a continuation but its so disgusting maybe I shouldn't show it to you.." I'm thoroughly disgusted, naturalment!
Been a sub from 2018. The channel is the same. The quality of the content is extremely extremely high. Thanks agad.
On a completely different note
I love how you are so famous in the chess community but still away from all the drama, just a guy making his videos, entertaining his audience and yh that's pretty much it.
In before he creates his second account dramagmator.
While I agree with you, it's not exactly fair to word it like that I reckon. Every sport has drama due to the competitive nature at the very top and comradery and love at the bottom, with the space in-between falling somewhere on the spectrum between those poles.
What I am trying to say without sounding like an a**hole is that it's very much easier to be away from the drama of GMs and Super GMs if you're not a GM or a Super GM. And this is in no way meant as a diss towards agad's playing strength ( he surely would beat me in under 20 moves ), it's just the way I see it while trying to be truthful to reality.
That said, even the drama at the top isn't really drama if we're honest. A few people mildly dislike each other, but there is no hate involved in my opinion. I see friendly faces almost everywhere after matches, Giri and Magnus having fun banter, Fabi is far too polite to be disliked, Naka choosing to stream and talking rather respectfully about the other players while still being one of the top10 players of the world working from home. Everyone respects Vishy, everyone respects Gary, everyone is afraid of what AliReza will become.
So yeah, not much drama going on when compared to the Fischer vs USSR or Gary vs Karpov times.
( as always - just an opinion on the internet, nothing to enrage over! )
@@TheGrandmaMoses I agree with everything you wrote quite eloquently. I suppose, though, that this comment was more in reference to such things as the "Botez-Hikaru controversy" (it seems that there exists such a thing, even though I haven't the faintest idea what it may be), or other "YT celeb dramas" that are bound to take place now that the chess world has drastically changed in the past year, for better (in many instances) or worse (in some ways).
Last time I was this early, the Damiano defense was considered sound
It's still tricky if you play 3... Qe7 lol
Last time I was this early no one's girlfriend had kicked them out
burn xD
Just realised That Your channel is built on raw passion❤❤
Everything related to chess is haha. Chess isn't really a big money maker
@@senior.toucan6370 yeah, that's mostly true. but if your in world's elite players , money shouldn't be much of an issue
They should make a movie about the life of Morphy!
That was not a happy ending.
When he said "its where you guys come in" I felt some sort of responsibility
Finally! My favourite Morphy's match! (specially, game 4 of their official match). Thank you!
"every time I do it you say no I did it wrong." Lmao.
"I'll play you, but you have to start off in a completely losing position."
King's Gambit accepted has a higher win percentage for black than white. 😉
@@mcbomb7447 1. A joke, 2. 162 years ago?
@@natanaelvicenteferreira590 I'd suck
What a top game and so well explained. Thanks.
“Kb1, always a useful move”
Ben Finegold sends his regards
I'm very happy that I spotted the F4 idea in just a matter of seconds
as I also reached today 1800 Blitz rating on Lichess
slow progression, but I definitely getting there.
Great game and Commentary by Agad, have a nice one.
Dude idk what it is but I’ve been watching your videos for a year now and I loveeee them. Better than every chess channel out there. You’re not pretentious you aren’t annoying and you explain everything so well. Great job and you’ve earned your success. Also I like how proud that your are of your USB chess piece. I’d hang out with you.
f4 was a genius move. Well played Harrwitz
This moment when you finds that F4 traps the knight and you´re only a 1200 player....is priceless! Made my day
Here is the key to agad's popularity:
"He enjoys the fans as much as the fans enjoy him"
That's gay
The "pause the video" bit is one where you need to apply a Lasker principle. If you know this principle, you can certainly go for it. Naturally being a Lasker addict, I considered it, but settled on the quieter looking 29...a6. I settled on a6 because it's exactly the kind of weird move I'd expect Agadmator to hide. But it turns out he actually did go for the Lasker move. So, if I just played what I was taught instead of getting cute, I would have been right.
The dude was world champion for a reason.
Whenever Morphy faced a new opponent, he brought a new shock for him.
I found it!! I found F4! Damn this channel is helping me get better at chess.
Achievement unlocked.
I also found it, but it was more like “I just wouldn’t move anything else so I guess it must be that”.
i found it in 2 seconds but i didnt know excatly why lol
I also found it, but only by "brute force". After calculating several lines and getting nothing, I thought "what about f4?", and then I realized that the knight was actually trapped and it must be the move.
And it is was in this position that Harrwitz was awarded a Morphy head
A great posseser of knowledge 😅,
Those little expressions are hilarious
Great games played back then with beautiful attacks. Engines have eliminated some of that beauty!
Bs
Created beauty of their own
@@dopplesoddner2899 also true
@@dopplesoddner2899 Engines have beauty. Players who rely on them too much for prep do not.
One of the best Video Title i have ever seen.
Thank you for putting the ad at the end of the video agad, I always watch it
Interesting I am waiting for the next game it would be awesome. And also this german guy looking strong af he played so solid..
Morphy’s been having late nights drinking absinthe in those French cafés
“I will show you one possible defence but it’s so disgusting that maybe I even shouldn’t” 😂 these videos are an absolute goldmine for fans of quality one-liners 😂😍
His funniest video is still "the great over-protection game."
You can quote him , he has some iconic lines : " my plan was to reseign "
Incredible content, as usual! Thanks for sharing!
This Morphy guy is such an amazing story
Morphy the adventurer. Traveling places to beat the living shit out of top players. One of a kind.
Nice trolling by Morphy - he went on to crush Harrwitz 5.5 to 2.5. 😂
That was some impressive defense against Morphy no less
According to my calculation 295 Frank’s in today’s time is around 8850 dollars
I made it more like $4000 based on gold prices and some 'thorough' internet based peer reviewed research!!
Tks
As I have already said the trouble with mere inflation calculation is it does not take into account average wages or national wealth. If you start to measure against those then the value of that pot, certainly compared to working people, MASSIVELY increases. Basically societies have become richer, back then what seems like good money relative to today in terms of inflation was actually a much greater amount.
You can read up on the technicalities on this if you research the many papers on "how much was Mr Darcy really worth". Inflation calculation is fine for a generation or two back, but not for centuries back.
@G. Sem yeah your right
I can't believe I found f4! I saw it and kept thinking, "this can't be the move."
"first they had to decide whether theyre going to have seck" "seconds" my mind thought he was about to say something else.
"Paul Morphy resigns the game"
Not often you hear this sentence on this channel.
"Kb1 - always a usefull move"... Famous last words before I get backrank skater.
Good thing i watched your videos from three years ago and know how the Morphy v Harrwitz match turns out :)
Truly the good stuff!
Given the title of the video and Antonio's subscriber count I feel it is now appropriate to quote an iconic Dragon Ball Z scene.
Frieza: By the way Vegeta did I happen to mention that I now have a fighting power of over a million.
Gohan: One million?!?!
Vegeta: NO! Don't believe him boys, that's impossible even for him.
"... absolute monstrosity of a defence."
What a great game!!! Grats on the golden button antonio :)
#suggestion
Hi Agadmator, I have a great quote that you can use for a tournament.
In Valve's Documentary True Sight : The International 2018 Finals (on youtube)
In the first minute of the Documentary Johan "N0tail" Sundstein, one of the finalists, gives an Introduction to the game and the Tournament.
Dota is a sick mental game. It brings out the best and worst in yout.
When it comes down to half a second where you just can't predict whats gonna happen
You try to look at everything as pieces and pawns, you try to look at it as simply the game.
Who ended up the mental warfare always won the series. Thats how you're goonna win tournaments thats how you win the tournament.
If you break the other mind it gets really easy. Some minds are really hard to beat though.
I feel like "Who ended up the mental warfare always won the series. Thats how you're goonna win tournaments thats how you win the tournament."
would fit really well as a quote for a big tournament game or start of a match between 2 rivals. you could also shorten it to just "Who ended up the mental warfare always won the series" if two players play a series of games.
I feel like True Sight is the best esports content piece there is and I really wish that they made something like this for chess aswell.
Anyway, that's it Thanks for reading the suggestion.
I love agadmator. He says "there is one move, but it's so disgusting maybe I shouldn't show you."
Morphy probably threw the casual game to insure the match would happen
This is the good stuff!
Title: what's his power level?
Me: its over 9000
saaaaame XD
Saaaaaaame :D
Yay! "It's not an easy one" - I got it! (I only wish I'd seen fully WHY, but you can't have everything.)
Morphy was absolutely hustling. Trying to desperately to get Staunton to play (the coward).
Harrwitz ...f4 is a super great move. I wish I had seen it.
What a game it is....🔥
Very interesting. Morphy lost? But, his opponent was sharp... I think I'll check out Morphys games in his career. I like the way he came up with a queen trap efen as he knew it was really lost. He didn't quit!
Imagine, what if Tal, Morphy, Fisher, Kasparov and Magnus fuse into 1 player!
Are you talkin bout AlphaZero?
@@tommythang2937 we would only get "captures and captures"
I keep my power level suppressed, until I yell out CARO-KANN TIMES FOUR and then immediately checkmate my opponent
Agadmator speaks English so well, it’s admirable. His vocabulary is extensive and uses it almost effortlessly. Always finds the perfect word. He doesn’t over do it with fancy over the top words that are just used to try and impress people. He speaks better then any high schooler I’ve ever met. Even in my profession, he speaks more intelligently then just about everyone. In U.S. many can’t even speak English. There are some people that English is the only language they know and can barely speak it. I’m very impressed and Antonio, he must have a high IQ considering his knowledge of chess on top of that.
and continuously improving. if you watch some of the videos from 2+ years ago, the accent was much stronger.
@@IgorYagolnitser Do you know of any other countries where an average intelligent person can’t properly speak the only language that they know? Seems so strange to me.
@@lexevoconfused by your comment. Agadmator's native language is not English... as for people not speaking the only language they know well -- it was true in Russia and Ukraine, it's true in U.S., and I suspect many other countries, maybe even all of them.
@@IgorYagolnitser that was my point. That his native language is not a English and he speaks It so well. It is surprising that people this day and age can’t speak even 1 language well. I truly didn’t know adults that only speak their native language can’t form sentences somewhat properly, or pronounce simple words all around the world. Seems so strange to me.
Moral of the story. DO NOT BET ON ANYTHING
''You can easily blunder the position here''
Yep...just blunder everything both times lol!!!
Harrwitz' defense skills under that pressure is really crazy. Morphy was pressing with each move and he still found amazing resources. Not that it matters but look at Harrwitz' queenside pawns, he didn't really create any weaknesses so that he could manage to defend on the other side of he board while whites queen was insanely active. Nice game!
I felt immediately that Morphy should've accepted the queen trade that would've enabled him to undouble his pawns. Those doubled pawns were a disaster waiting to happen, and sure enough they turned out to be the key factor leading to his loss. I wish Agadmator had looked more deeply into this alternative.
Would’ve been a completely different game since the file would be closed for both sides , could go either way again as the situation would have been completely different
Assuming you mean instead of Qe2, he sacced a pawn for the attack he has to just be worse after the trade no?
@@qazzaqstan Not sure how Morphy should have responded after Harrwitz Qb6, but I don't understand why Morphy moved his queen to Qe2 to avoid trading queens. Agadmator said he thinks Morphy just didn't want to part with his queen. I'm no grandmaster, but it seems to me that I would've been delighted for Harrwitz to trade queens at e3 and thereby undoubling my pawns. The rest of the game those pawns were a continual weakness and figured eventually in his ignominious defeat. I would have liked to hear what Agadmator thinks could have been done with some other piece instead of Qe3-Qe2. If your opponent wants to help you out by undoubling your doubled pawns for you, one should smile and be grateful for doing you a favor. Don't you think so?
@@GeraldM_inNC While it is entirely possible letting the queen trade happen is Morphy's best bet (no idea, I'm not that good), it is very understandable that Morphy would not want to trade queens in that position. He is down a pawn and has a strong attack as compensation. To me it looks like Morphy is better with the queens on the table but after the queen trade I imagine only Harrwitz could be better. Of course I'm not very good and could be completely wrong but it just feels like the doubled pawns are not yet the key part of the game.
1st time I heard.. It was in this position that paul morphy resigned the game
He lost some games against the fearless attacker mr barnes
Those old masters were *MONSTERS*
Back to the good stuff
Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his power level?
It's over 10 years since this meme died!!!!
@@szczur0192 It's over 9000!!!
To answer your question, 295 francs in 1850 is roughly 950€ today but that doesn’t mean much. By comparison, you could say that the average worker earned 5 francs per day then, so 125 francs a month. Thus, we re talking about almost 3 months pay at the time. The minimum wage now being 1200€ in France, we could say they played a game worth about 3500€
Another saga for morphy saga
It was in this position (11:43) that Agadmator farted 😂
It feels like fischer got inspired from Morphy
You didn't explain why he resigned I don't think but I guess being down a rook was something, even for Morphy in 1858.
Every time i hear agadmator say: the good stuff" i imagine him selling drugs
😆🤣
A different kind of white pieces
@@RayyanKhanRayyanKhan haha
I imagine morphy seeing all the top moves and choosing the least one😂
For a second there at 14:00 I thought you were going to make my talents fully operational by turning the close-to-lost position into a total-loss by discovering the absolute worst move. I'm a certified genius at that.
Agad, you changed your angle so we can't see Medo. 😢
That mutt is annoying
@@thegorn WTF
Title is called a new opponent when it was played more than a 100 years ago
What a defense by Daniel
1:40 bruh i dont even why i heard "whether they're gonna have seggs" im tripping lmao
7:24 "Kb1..." [wants to say "a nice prophylactic move, but it's not prophylactic] [wings it]
..."A nice anaphylactic move..."
Awesome material🙂🙂🙂
I calculated the value of the French Franc using the 20 Franc gold piece of 1858, which had 5.806 grams of AU. Hence they played for 290 Francs or 84 ounces of gold. Given that the price of gold remained steady - in USD until about 1971, I could estimate that by 1974, the value of that gold would have been roughly 13,000 USD. Whereas the USD value has inflated at 6.3X and what would be the French Franc 5.6X since 1974, we could estimate that in present-day monies, they played for 70,000-75,000 USD.
Hey Agad, #suggestion on some Petrosian and Botvinnik games.
amazing game!
The Good Stuff 👌
I guess Ben's claim that Morphy was unbeatable and lightyears ahead of all the other players in 1850's isnt all true. He was beatable after all. What a wonderful game
Thanks Agadmator.
Morphy won 84% of his games. “unbeatable” is obviously hyperbole, but he was as close to unbeatable during his day as the chess world has ever seen.