Rise Against - Tim McIlrath - Savior - Isolated Vocal Analysis - Singing & Production Tips
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2021
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There's lots of cool vocal production to learn from in this track and the perspective we get when digging into Tim's unusual sounding grit and rasp is REALLY enlightening!
He's got this 'broken' and almost laid back angst that happens when he really gets into it. This is the hardest kind of vibe to get into when we're singing with distortion because we always think that distortion is associated with push and volume.
In this case, it's associated with abandon and, strangely, backing off a bit. Join me in this video to learn more!
-Chris
we don't deserve you, chris. this content is just too good for the world. always insightful, always something to add
Tim's vocals really come from the heart.
Sometimes you pick people that I don’t know I wanted to hear analyzed. Love Rise Against!
As someone who has spent a considerable time attempting to nail Tim's distortion technique. I honestly laughed at you at first, but as the video went on I gained respect for your knowledge, as well as the balls it takes to attempt something like that for the first time on camera. And then you eventually nailed it halfway through! Big kudos. Great video.
Sidenote: To me Tim's particular sound has always been about singing clearly through the middle of your throat and squeezing your head to add distortion, as little sense as that makes.
Tim’s voice is very diverse and he has great vocal range!
Came here for Tim... stayed for Chris. I knew I loved Rise Against for a reason, but this breakdown was so amazing for showing why I like them and what sets Tim apart vocally. Wow, you are awesome and really do a fantastic job of showing the nuance and how it differs from other mainstream sounds. +1 subscriber keep it up!
Thanks for watching and for enjoying... And for the sub!!
Just discovered this channel and I'm already hooked. A teacher who can actually sing, I love it. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from Ken Tamplin so this is extremely refreshing.
Tim is a fucking LEGEND! His sound is so unique too.
Keep up the great work Chris, im at Discover your voice week 2 and im enjoying it a lot.
Just bought some expensive gear ....because gear shopping is so much FUN :D
Edit: Tim is also my biggest inspiration when it comes to singing, he´s the reason i got my ears adjusted to screaming vocals.
I love this guy, i really do. Wish i could talk to him one day.
This is awesome, Chris. Tim was one of the main reasons I started singing. His unique style and great control, the ability to go in and out of multiple types of distortion at will is spectacular.
Thanks so F***ing much for this breakdown. I’m sure it was hard planning this out as Tim has such a unique approach to his grit/vocals. Appreciate the hard work you do in all your vids. I was one of the main ones begging for such a breakdown😂😂😂
My band back in the day got the pleasure of opening up for rise against here in Az downstairs at the Nile theater (rip) … anyway Tim Has one of the most powerful unique vocals ever. And he’s GREAT live .. great video
Digging up a story so far isolated track would be crazy. Tim mcllraths vocal dynamics are absolute goals and hero of war is still a classic
NOT EVEN LYING I WAS TRYING TO MAKE A SONG WITH THESE VOCAL TECHNIQUES AND HERE IS MY FAVORITE TEACHERS LESSON UPLOADED A WEEK AGO OMG😆😆
Ahh the song that got me into rock music. I owe to this band my whole life. Without hearing this song
I would have never picked up guitar.
Talk about a blast from the past, last time I remember hearing Savior was back when it was put on guitar hero back in the 2000's. Wild
Great video!!! Thank you Chris! You always put out above and beyond content.
Incredible video as always, Chris. Thank you for all the good insights on Tim's vocals.
Really loving all the latest videos, with a bit more detailed look at the production on vocals than some of the earlier videos. Excellent work as always!
omg this is like my favorite song in forever! Thanks Chris. i'm getting chills from his voice
Damn every one of these videos is so freakin awesome and insightful. These songs you do these isolated vocal videos for are all stuff I've heard a million times but the isolated breakdown always brings cool flavors I never noticed to the front and gives me a bigger appreciation for the production side of vocals
My favourite band. Thank you so much.
Such a great work you do, my friend. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!
Oh my god, one of my favorite bands, and one of my favorite vocalists, I'm so grateful, thank you so much Chris!
Fantastic explanation for one of my favourite songs! Thanks for doing this, is a great watch
You did it! Thank you sir! You know I've asked you for this in several comments, so I do appreciate you taking your time and skill to bring this to us. I know for a fact you read your comments as we've had several exchanges over the last couple of years. You're still the best out there as far as I'm concerned. I haven't even watched this yet but I'm so thrilled I can hardly stand it. You're 1 in a million.
One of my favorite songs, thank you Chris! ✌️
Wow thanks for analyzing one of my all time favourite vocalists! Love your videos!
Cool man! Really insightful. This is also a goldmine for production and mixing geeks who want to know how Chris Lord Alge gets balances for vocals when mixing. Because this record also just sounds amazing!
your videos are amazing dude! Interactive and fun! God bless you
One of my favorite bands of all time AND easily one of my favorite vocalists too❤
Caleb Shomo from beartooth (used to be in Attack! Attack! too) is someone you could try a video on as well. Would be really cool to see a breakdown of his singing and screaming. He has an incredibly iconic voice!
Great video, Chris!! Been watching you for a while now and you always deliver banger videos :D
OMG I requested Tim AGES ago! Thank you Chris!!
it's past midnight right here and I found this video on your channel, and I'm so excited to watch it! thank you for accepting my request, I really appreciate it :') Rise Against is one of my favorite bands, and my first concert and also the main inspiration I became a vegetarian 7 years ago. they were the first band I discovered on my own. they didn't get recommended to me by friends like other bands, so they are very special to me.
Dude. This video is incredible.
This man would be a great voice actor
Chris you teach me so much I lost my mother a year ago I had stopped playing music for 13 years until that happen I started back needed somewhere to put my mind I suffer from very bad depression this keeps me going on I can honestly say music is my life you've helped me improve and keep pushing forward in this emptiness thank you brother for all you do and p.s I don't tell people this about my troubles and all I got is crappy equipment but I try ❤
Legit last night I was working on a chorus for a new song and was trying to emulate the natural grit that happens in Tim’s voice. This video was serendipity my friend. Absolutely perfect timing on your end!!
That's awesome!
Yes! I've been waiting for this one!
I've been waiting for this one!
I love this. I always wondered why I liked his voice
OMFG
THIS
IS
SO AWESOME.
the first time i listen Rise Against the first thing i heard and inmediatly fell in love was the tim's voice. thank you chris we dont deserve you
Super Awesome 👏🏾
I'm always amazed at how much is going on with the vocal track that I just don't notice when its embedded in the full song.
You can really tell that Tim McIlrath means what he sings and this i why i appreciate him and the band so much.
Great singer and an even better writer.
One of the best for me.
Edit: This is really a good analysis and great coaching :)
I totally thought there was a clean vocal track and one more “gritty” until I saw them live. Thank you so much. I’m not sure if I can or want to achieve that with my voice but the vid was very helpful. 😀
It's amazing how close you get to Tim's tone analyzing the stuff ahaha you're good man ✌🏻
Great music song. So good song. Great sound.
I would love to see vocal analysis for Dustin Kensrue of Thrice or Simon Neil of Biffy Clyro! These insights are awesome. thank you for your videos
Really good content,thanks for it
Like the angel *the slowed down version* would be a great analysis
I love that song as a power ballad
Awesome loved it.
Also, I got the wisdom tooth extracted. 3 weeks into recovery, my lymph node is not as swollen as it was. When its all ready Im going to go through your course again without the infection in my throat this time. Im really hoping it will sound great. Thanks Chris for all you do. 😁
Love your videos! I'd be really happy to see your analysis on Severed by Mudvayne from L.D. 50.
Wow thank you, one of my favourite bands 🙂. I’m surprised how much the tuning / vibrato has been messed with in places and that some of the harmonies sound like they were artificially created. I think it totally works though, just never noticed until I heard these isolated vocals.
You should do one of his newer songs now that he has a vocal coach and changed his singing a bit. I saw a video of "no where generation" I think it was and he was sticking his tongue out while singing and it would be very interesting to hear your take on that. Great video 👍
I don't want to beg but I really really want to see you try something from Life on planet 9, lo pro or Ultraspank. A LOT of what I learned improperly before finding your channel was me trying to sound like Pete Murray, instead of learning his techniques and building on them.
Also, I don't mean to sound disappointed. This channel is priceless :)
In the part at "but seldom do these words ring true" you went 100000% morty bruh.
Chris, you should take a look at Yannis Phillipakis from Foals vocals. Notably his performance of 'Daffodils' in Like a Version. His voice is OUT OF THIS WORLD in that performance.
Oh i would love for you to analyze one of the songs from the newest rise against album!
I absolutely love your channel, been nothing but a godsend to finding my voice
Is there anyway you can do an isolated vocal analysis over jim Morrison from The Doors
Like his style of scream singing
Didn't know this was also gonna be a comedy skit. Very funny
Ich liebe dich 😬
Dank brother
Could you do Lajon Witherspoon from Sevendust? Would love to see a breakdown of his technique
Chris, Thanks. Everyone seems to think he's great.
Man how do you get isolated vocal tracks that would really help me alot on every aspect
It would be so cool if you analyzed Connor Cannon of The Story So Far's vocals!
I’d love to see an isolated vocal analysis of Rody Walker from Protest The Hero
I always loved Tim's voice. You should check out Jesse rutherford from the Neighbourhood
Could you possibly do tip the scales one? of their older songs when Tim’s voice was more raspier
Idk if you’ve done a video on this before - but the “h” section at the end made me think of it. I am constantly voice breaking when I am delivering words that start with H especially when experimenting in my mix voice. Do you have any videos or are interested in making any that talk about particular vowels/consonants that might be troublesome or require different approaches? I think that’d be an interesting video!
I've done a few videos on vowels. Check out my video on "Why You Can't Sing EE" And I've done other stuff on Tone control that will address exactly what you're talking about. I also have a whole module in my course Discover Your Voice about placement, vowels, mods and resonance in light of those mods. I hope you get a chance to check it out!
Rise against caught my eye, thanks eh bud
Hey Chris, LOVE your videos! One question: Can one practice this kind of distortion (or screaming with your vocal break, like you showed with Spencer Sotelo) while doing straw phonation? That would be great because then I could practice this at home without my neighbors thinking that I'm getting murdered.
Straws are cool, but they work for lots of stuff because they are adding "external compression". (Airflow resistance) Straw phonation isn't great for practicing aggressive singing because it doesn't 'teach us to create that resistance in our own false cords/vocal tract.
Hey Chris, I'm practicing my mixed voice and distortion with this song, it sounds good at the start, but I lose that voice quickly after maybe just 1 or 2 gos. Feels like my voice is injured and it won't push up to that note anymore. Do you have any videos on this?
It would be very interesting to hear your analysis of the isolated vocals of singer Sia’s "Alive"
Honestly I feel like his voice (like so many others with unique grit) is a lot due to years of touring. Not saying he couldn’t do it before - or that he didn’t sound like that before, but I’ve been noticing more and more how that almost hoarse, loosely broken up sound comes from people who have been touring for many years. Or had maybe just spent the last 4 hours recording vocals in the studio 😅 it’s hard to tell, and cool either way.
Fuuuuck yes, saw these guys live a couple months ago, goddamn love Rise Against.
Just an fyi, a lot of the backing vox are probably by chad price of ALL/Drag the river, a friend of the band and their producer, bill Stevenson
The point you're trying to grasp in the beginning with the "Seldom" - tim doesn't sing - he acts! He says it in character, while using his practiced talent, that's how he gets where it is. every song is deeply personal for him.
I so agree with this! Lots of amazing singers are more like musical actors for sure!
@@chrisliepe Thank you for replying! I really appreciated your break down here. I am 30 and have always been talented but never practiced at singing - am super hooked on your channel lately!
14:09 sounds like old dial-up modem 😂
But I guess Tim didn't managed that type of singing well isn't it? He kinda lost his voice during the years. Thank God he's been seeing a vocal coach in the last couple of years.
Anyway a similar video for "prayer of the refugee" would be cool!
My thought exactly. Tim couldn't keep his voice in shape on tour, probably because of what Chris said in the video: he just did it and didn't think about it. Nowadays live, he barely uses any grit. That's no coincidence.
well, he has been screaming for god-knows how many years :/
@@1MarcoDavid yep, but many artists are way older than Tim and are still screaming hard
@@andreaojetti4853 because what happened to Tim was exactly what happened to Matt Heafy from Trivium. they were literally screaming from their throats. Matt now has a proper technique (obviously doesn't sound so good) and Tim only screams on records, mostly.
@@1MarcoDavid exactly, I've been seeing some new live performances from Tim and he's getting better and better (while in the last tours with time he got worst) so I'm sure he will scream way more in the future. he's already doing it during concert using another technique
thanks chris, now can you review the simlish version
Really interesting… great voice but I wonder if some of that grit is due to melodyne or some other pitch correction. It sounds a bit robotic at times, especially in the verses. Thoughts?
I don't think the GRIT is... but I definitely hear some artifacts!
I'm just gonna SIIING and if I crack up a LIIITLE then that's OKAAAY.
9:39 what do you mean with imperfection?
Dude hell yeah! You get a subscribe from me now
Thanks for the sub!
do you think you’ll ever make a how to sing like video for vic fuentes of pierce the veil?
That would be a good one!
I dont think he's consciously doing it. Sounds like he's singing with emotion, and emphasizing certain words, applying that grit in just the right places. 🤘
I don't know this band. Really like those harmonizes at 5:52. They remind me of production in 90s R&B stuff - MJ Dangerious era for example... and I've just checked out the full song and they get totally lost in the mix.
where on earth are you getting these vocals from???
I find them on UA-cam. :)
Could you do a video on chino Moreno from deftones please
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I'm a complete noob singing. I can sing some Avenged Sevenfold, 3 Doors Down and some Three Days Grace. Tried to sing Swing Life Away by Rise Against and I can't haha. I play it on guitar at the same time and I actually sing slightly better. But yeah... I'm gonna keep trying and experimenting
Still Waiting on Julian Casablancas!!!
On the list!
Seems like Tim's mix has a sharp nasal resonance that sounds a lot like bitcrushing. Anyone have experience with this? My voice does this too and it drives me insane but maybe I just need to stop hyperfocusing lol
I think that makes him sound awesome. Just be yourself man, don't overthink.
In some of his newer live performances, it sounds like Tim has had vocal surgery and it sounds a little off, but he's always been a great singer.
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So hard to hear through the tuning sometimes.
14:08 sounds like you were entering the matrix lol
Your speaking voice sounds like Marc Martel
OH really??
unh
Idk... Appreciate the breakdown but Rise Against always comes across as monotonic to me.... It doesn't have large vocal dynamic range... Just lots of grit singing...
I dont think Tim had any actual training before Nowhere Generation (I think he had to stop singing for a while because of this), but they have a lot of clean songs that isnt pure grit