Joe Bonamassa Responded
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2024
- Join us as we unpack the recent exchange with @JoeBonamassaTV discussing AI-generated art, trademarks, and the future of music ownership. From his hilarious insta comment to the complexities of intellectual property, this video dives into the evolving landscape of the blues and beyond. Share your thoughts in the comments below, and don't forget to subscribe for more insightful discussions!
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Sounded great and a great way to tip your hat to Joe for being cool and unintentionally treading on his brand, your post was funny and his comment was funny. Makes me want his pedal. As far as AI all I can say is I am glad I am an old man, cuz man this world has gotten rough. Good luck.
Awesome comment, thank you so much for taking the time to say that, that made my day 🚀
Nice typical boomer mentality there, who'd you think made it like this😂.
@@ThunderingCreation No blame, just fact
He handles it like a gentleman and is one of the most humble and kind dudes you could ever meet! Love Joe and he’s leading the way with all the class and humility🙏🤙
Joe B is a cool humble guy. I briefly met him at one of the Southern California vintage guitar events a couple years back. It’s not surprising that he handled this with class. I also used to own one of those copper JB fuzz faces. It was a little dark for me so I contacted Dunlop and they offered to have me come in to their Benicia factory and they’d adjust the pots with me tone testing on their guitar. I was blown away at how cool they were. Another piece of gear I shouldn’t have sold.
That’s an awesome story, thanks so much for sharing 🟠 and yes, don’t get us started on the gear regrets 😂🚀
Yeah...this never happened.
Joe bonnamassa is just the humble night watchman at norms rare guitars! 😁😁
I have great respect for what Joe has built I have enjoyed seeing the evolution of his brand. I also know you and all you’re about and I look forward to how you grow your brand. This was not how I expected you two to connect but I hope you two continue to communicate. You’re both passionate in what you do! When Joe plays Red Rocks again, we should go!! I’ll need to beg him to play Bridge To Better Days.
Good on you for acknowledging your naivety in this situation and rebounding in such a graceful way. The ai future is a strange and difficult one for all artists.
Joe handling it with such poise is amazing, and by doing so helps bridge the gap between the artists, fan base and guys like yourself.
The video has prompted me to subscribe. Keep up the good work.
Really interesting and thought provoking conversation, thanks for sharing
Shows you what a legend joe really is. Imagine you did the same thing with say the coke brand. Don't imagine you would have received a nice email with comedy etc. Probably a lawyers letter. Go joe 👍
Fantastic!!!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
❤️🚀🎸
Joe B bougt a Klon from my friend Don at Highland Music in Birmingham. Cool dude.
That was a great response from both you and Joe. Deep respect to you and Joe.
It’s great that Joe contacted you directly instead of having some lawyer come at you. He’s so down to earth.
I really like Joe, I love Norm's yt channel and he always pop up on it and always seems humble about his talent. He does buy some crazy expensive guitars, but he's earned it and it's kinda his thing. He's a custodian.
When I think of Joe Bonimasa, I think of home. Joe was just another kid in Yorkville, NY, and probably misses a good pepper steak sandwich from Voss's. He seems even more laid back than his dad.
Huge concerns!! For artists!
Love your playing, I find it inspirational...I'm surprised Joe wasn't calling u for his blues cruise line up! The vid was very supportive of Joe, so he should have been happy, but AI is in need of thought. My take is it is soooooo BORING. AI images are everywhere,,,they're instantly recognisable, because they on one level look similar. To me I see it and think what a lazy post. It is rare anyone uses it in an interesting way. It is largely used as a quick cheap convenient way out of doing something interesting...in that regard Joe's comment on IG was awesome, and on the money :)
Joe deserves his roses, and all the success he’s garnered. Someone really needs to set some ground rules and guidelines on the use of AI. It is definitely going to be a problem in the future. It keeps getting better and better. It’s scary. Eventually I’m sure it would be able to generate and edit a whole UA-cam video 😅🫣
I loved this perspective on the huge tech invasion that is rapidly overtaking our world. One point I would like to make is that Joe is an amazing human and this issue is just one more example of that…Jesus and Joe: The Cure for this crazy-ass world! 🙏🏽🎸🙏🏽🎶🙏🏽
Joe is awesome 😎
Excellent story, Chris! It shows that Joe is a fine person. Besides putting out more traditional based music on the one hand, he's pretty progressive on the other hand. I mean, it seems he really has dealt with AI and the possible consequences for our art.
That's a great conversation to have. As an animator, our community is having lot of talks about the impact of AI in the creative industry in general. One example, not too far back it became a trend for social media influencers to change their avatars into a more fantastic paint like version of their own faces, and the same quastion you made here applies, who owns it right? What AI does is not create something from nothing, when you run a prompt to have let's say your photo, but in "Disney's style", the tool searches the internet for artwork on that style, and combine multiple pieces into a database that will then, assimilate that style into your photo. That artwork used to feed this database is the work of countless artists, who are not being credited, or paid for the use of their work. I guess there's not a simple solution for it yet, but it's definitely a conversation worth having it, and it will probably take a while to figure out.
Joe's a nice guy. If he can afford all those amps, he can afford attorney's. But, for us that are fans, this case just showcases the Joe we know - just a guy that eats, breathes, sleeps guitars.
AI is a mess - we just need more great dicussions like this to know how to go about living in a world with AI. Much to learn - this was a great start. I'm so glad I subscribed to your channel. Cheers from Wyoming, US.
You're a bloody star Chris⭐
At the end of the day you've got to see a bigger picture and respect each other's art and business just like it's been before the internet. I've been there as a commercial artist and it burns your fingers, but you learn quickly from it and move on.
Very cool of Joe not to go all crazy ass about it. He respects you as a fresh face in the biz. I guarantee he’s got the back to sue a company to the ground.
To me a big part of the problem is that there is literally no way to stop it from happening, just like fake nudes of famous women have been around forever and they have not been able to stop them.
The lawyers will actually own it all, kinda like already.
Music and the arts in all its forms should be purely organic!!!
Why are there these people who want to fuck about with it!!!!
It’s all gotten out off hand in my opinion!!!!
Doesn’t show any signs of stopping.
I’m all for progress but at what cost!!!
Great video as ever Chris!!!!!🙏
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@@benallmark9671it isn’t extremely quiet, but it’s decent volume. It sounds great at 0.5 watts but when you turn it up more it really starts to shine because you can feel the amp in your core. It sounds the best when it’s anything at or past 5 watts but at 0.5 watts it’s still absolutely amazing
This is a very interesting topic/question without a really good answer. I definitely agree with the need for the artist to protect their brand - they put in all the work for it. On the other hand, what is the difference between someone taking a photograph of an artist, drawing/painting a picture of the artist and an AI generated picture? As a photographer, I think they own the rights to their pictures unless they were specifically hired by the artist. I believe a painter owns their painting as well. Definitely something to think about though.
It actually looks like Quinton Tarantino in the photos, lol. But it works.
Legally there are two separate aspects to this.
1. Nobody can copyright AI art, that simple. If you create an "original" image for whatever use, you cannot copyright it if it is entirely AI generated (things are more complex if you use bits of AI elements and then combine them, as an artist/creator, into a creation of your own).
2. The legal issues appear when either the source material, aka the material used to train the particular AI engine, is copyrighted, and/or when the work generated is in the semblance of a person, brand, design, etc who is then entitled to protect their image and trademarks. In that sense, in this particular case for example, it's a little bit as if you had used a photo of Joe without his consent or without paying usage rights.
Legal definition of AI use and potential copyright infringement is an ongoing and constantly evolving process ATM. Some providers (like some prominent stock shot providers) are hoping to neutralize infringement potential by training their AI engine using only legally safe or self owned material, etc.
Joe's reaction was indeed gracious, and honestly appropriate, as he no doubt understood there was no ill intention on your part, especially as the content of the video was positive. As a conclusion, draw authentic, we are watching you, you have been warned hahahah (sorry couldn't help it).
JB is a very cool guy, great guitar player and deserves much more respect. I still believe his time with better tunes are to come.
Impressive collections are impressive
I thought this was a Sci-Man Dan video lol
I heard a lawyer talk about it the other day. AI-generated art work, music or copy can not be copyrighted. But something like this would probably have to be decided by a jury.
ChatGPT says that a legal precedent has not been set for this specific problem yet - but it's coming. It also said there is something called "Transformative change" that is similar to "Fair Use" - that if you change a character so much that it becomes somethign different - it may give you some protection from lawsuits in certain jurisdictions. It's all up in the air.
AFAIK, AI art (visual atleast) isn't owned by anyone and cannot be copyrighted (Its been tried in a court of Law in the US from what i remember) because its not original artwork. It works on an algorithm of "Stitched together" works of art from a database of many images created by other people and uses that data to make (not create) a visual representation of a prompt. Granted it does it in very clever ways but its neither creative, inspired nor original.
It wasn't Joe it was me answering you through AI....
when you came to Austin...were you ever able to Catch Alan Haynes' Live show?
He is still alive? Good for him, back in early 80's here in Southeast Texas, he brought his band to many clubs here and he was very Johnny Winter influenced, bitchen show way back then
I am a musician and a visual arts teacher. My question is, if a student was to draw that same drawing in pencil would that being infringement? There is a whole history of editorial drawings in newspapers. Does the fact that the AI generated art looks like a photograph change our perspective? Is a photograph, more truthful, than a pencil drawing, which is more truthful than AI generated art? Does each one of those infringe on an artist than the other? These are the things that are being struggled with in visual art classes in schools.
He suddenly appeared on the scene.
Legislation doesn’t seem up with technology. It’s going to be difficult for artists, but perhaps we’ll see some innovative ideas emerge that supports and protects art and artists.
Cool
Of course he did! It's all about the $$$
Those are his real fingers. Have you heard him play?
Blues Saraceno shared in an interview that I recently watched that he has made a career out of recording music that is 'eerily' similar to the original. Ask him if he has ever dealt with any legal shit storms.
What a fantastic video have a wonderful day chris also how is the weather today ❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊
Thank you very much mate, hope you have a lovely day as well. The weather is a bit chilly here in the UK, how about where you are? 🚀
@@PedalPawn the weather is also chilling in Canada as well to be honest it does look like spring
@@PedalPawnit’s literally storming here
Joe is a Badass
Yes, but parody is still admissible, which is what I would think the image you created falls under
You both sound like class acts. So hopefully that prevails as we figure out the AI world.
good pedal ad.
Imagine being sued by AI automated #person_name lawyer, for posting artwork containing random @person_name, that it automatically detects and sues you. Thats the possible future...
AI is the beginning of the end .
Joe's awesome and I don't like that Joe gets the hate he does... he knows a lot and he's a hard worker but I've never heard him put himself above anyone and he's quick to move the move the spotlight to his idols. That's a guitar God in the making there....
How does the AI know what he looks like? From his image in the first place. That would be the root of the copyright claim?
He is more a businessman than a soulful guitarist…
What’s this got to do with pedals?
Questions of law? Why not talk to a laywer? Tape the Interview and share it!
I thought he said he was quitting social media after he went nuclear on a bald guy for making a bald joke at his expense? It's embarrassing that a guy at his level gives a shit about things like this.
I am not even famous or good as Joe but, this is not something I am saying to attacking you at all, but i'll be really pissed off if someone used anything close to me without my permission.
Today could be a photo, and next time could be me singing something I don't believe in at all or I am strongly aganist to. Or, as you said in the video, someone generating a guitar part in my style.
AI has to be regolated and brand new laws about copyright has to be done. Now.
I like Bonamassa a lot for his music and also what he says about today's situation.
I don't really get the Bonamassa hate! I have seen him twice live and it's all about great guitar playing, and he is great! I think it's just blues snobs! A.I is disturbing, but more in a Terminator kind of way. I don't think too much about Joe's image, to me it's just good music and people will always counterfeit with new tech. But only Joe can play and sound like Joe and so as long as he plays live gigs, that's what it's all about.
AI content is generated from the collective past images created by artists, amateurs, and reality. What the computer layout in seconds, would be a similar process of a creative team in a professional advertising environment.
It is super grey?
Let's be honest... If you had made a more flattering image, he would not have brought this up. Intellectual property? I could make a painting of Mick Jagger and sell it for 5 million and he's not entitled to a dime of that money. It's the same thing. There are laws that protect artists from frivolous lawsuits for this very reason. Joe is great, but he has always had bunny ears. He's quite sensitive about his image. I thought he said a while back he was quitting all social media platforms?
not only music ownership, AI will start wars, it should be banned
It already has started wars and has been around longer than most know.
if someone paints a picture of Jimi Hendrix is that copyright infringement of course not
I love joes music and his interviews, one of very few I'd go see live but come on Joe
this is a very petty bad look you are better than this
So in my opinion A I is not going to be this great thing that seems to be the consensus. I think artist are going to be hurt by it. I think the great thing about music is that it is so individual and human but using computers to create all of it is going to put a lot of people out of work and what the hell are we doing talking about this like its just inevitable and it is something that we are going to have to deal with. I think it will kill the creative art form that we call music maybe not initially but in time. So that’s all I got.
If you don't understand the rules, playing the game is not very smart.
Okay so I don't understand. Was Joe complaining or was he just saying hi?
genuinely have no idea how you can watch this video and come to the conclusion that Joe was complaining about the post...
@@onlyrepliestomentallyillpeople I'm asking because I don't think it was made clear. Maybe I missed it. Thanks.
i think you got lucky that joe did not sue you , if you do some ai shit about/with gibson they will be all over you : )
Make Music Great Again/ and America . Go trump ! Baby
AI will be the abomination of all creative musicianship and/or art in general.
Obviously, none of you guys watch Terminator, SKYNET IS BAD ‼️
the music industry has become embarrassing and sad. When was the last time you heard good playing on any of these massive guitar tube channels? instead its just become an eco system based on bragging and ego (self) stroking over who owns the best stuff. Not who plays the best stuff. Its not about music anymore.
Oh no! AI tricked me- I thought it was a picture. I think we are in trouble. We are going to go post truth and the arts are going to also suffer quite a bit. I think that human beings are going to do less and less hard and more and more producing. They’re going to be more and more art producers who use AI to generate their art. Notice I am not calling these people artists. They will not be artists. They will just come up with ideas and prompts. Then the machine, with a database as big as human history, will get to work and - hey presto- some inhuman thing will be created based on human experience from human history. These artistic things that were created by AI will themselves be subjects of a database, and they will be reused by AI as well. I’m glad I’m getting older. I’m not sure I want to live in the world that these computer people are over seeing.
JB is the most hated man in the history of the universe.
More bonocrappo click bait.
Because Ai its suck's and dangerous
Keep joe’s name out your mouth!
I find it offensive you think of joe with a les Paul and not a telecaster. One tele to rule them all
Satan is digital. God is analogue.
That thumbnail picture along with the headline/name of the video was out of taste clickbait. Silly to let AI generate your stuff. Is it some bad commercial or just generally low quality content. BTW the guitar playing in this sounds like bad Derek Trucks rip off.
So you used Joe B to lowkey promote your video 2x now. This is beginning to become a worry.