This is awesome info you're doing for the people who don't have the money for big names. If I were starting out again, I would be glad to have your videos
I disagree. Most the time I see them not working. Due to set up and even when set up right they either smoke or max out easy. Skar audio is a better choice get some svr 12 bet that would be louder. There is more brands I would choose over those.
EVERY HUMAN BEING IS BUILT DIFFERENT!! I'm almost 40, been bassin since 15, and competing. I go to the ear doctor every 6 months. Absolutely NO hearing damage or loss. (Not saying won't or will happen) That's also only 55hz and down. That I really expose myself to with 140-168.3. Also never for super long periods of time. So all in all. #BASSATYOUROWNRISK #BUTKEEPBASSIN #BASSHEADFAMILY
Yeah, I have seen plenty that says bass is fine. Hearing is usually damaged around the frequencies of exposure. A bit of hearing loss at 25hz is not going to have a huge impact on life or really even be noticeable in most cases. Its the guys that run all the mids and especially tweeters at ridiculously high power they wind up with issues. I have to do yearly hearing exams for work and mine stays roughly the same, it has actually improved slightly over the last couple of years which I attribute to some diet and exercise changes.
Parker squashed the controversy whether gothic 12s can take 1000 watts or more. Great video!! Best one yet in my book. I think you could do a lot of different videos in the budget arena of car audio...maybe even straight up spl system with a lot or mostly cheaper items. Good job dude!
@@SbassLaser idk I have 2 of them for over a year now and they haven't blown . I have a crown xli3500 dj amp in my garage. They're not bad for 100 bucks.
They cant take 1250rms for long at all skar 1200 froze one up asap......if you wanna smell subs allday on half power buy these coils turned black my sundown sa 12s will will take it an never get warm an the sa rated less rms power
@@boostedmk5gti563 I probably would only trust 600 to 900 rms in them for any length of time. Everyone knows they're inflating what they can take; it's just marketing to grab your attention I suppose.
Try the subs facing up and ports facing back but keep space between port and back . Or speakers facing back and ports up. It would be cool to see which way is louder
Power acoustic doesn’t do rated power but damn these things are impressive. Love these videos where underdog subs get the justice they deserve especially for the price
If your learning about car audio its the best sub since its cheap and easily replaced . I have a single gothic on 800w that pulls 130's from the trunk so box matters a lot here .
Use lots of Titebond 3 and clamps. Also Bracing where you can. And keep ports roughly the width of the port away from the back of the box. I love the pa subs
Nice. I've got to old planet audio bb10d4 in a yaris on a tramps hd3k. Finally 1 of them the glue started coming apart. Rebuilt it and beating it hard again. It's fun to play with the cheaper subs. I've had just about all of them over the years. The box is everything. Keep up coming.
I've been really impressed with the Gothic subs. I bought a pair for my son's first build. Ran a Autotek mean machine on them. I had the PA amp also, but the Autotek had a little more power.
Nice video. I use to run 2 Gothic off of a 4000 watt anarchy and they thumped nice! I was surprised by the quality for the price! When the box breaks before the subs blow its a nice thing! Good job!
@@vaughandieselsweeklyword9331 I’ve never heard of any of that equipment so I think you’re probably right. Based off the name, I’d guess 300 watts. I love when the reviews on Amazon of BOSS amps and subs talk about how hard they hit and how clean it sounds 😂
Remove that baffle with those aero ports and run a slot port. Aero ports are the easy way of doing it they are adjustable, but they rattle so it distorts sound. Add bracing to the box and give it 1 last GO. I mentioned a couple videos back To run those Subs on a real amp and you would notice a difference. In a small area when you're in that same spot as the subs and port , *trucks* the space is so small that port and speaker directions only effect the sound minimally. Good video Parker!
I agree the round ports sound the same as when your subs aren't sealed to the baffle correctly. The way the air has to escape sees rough. Like it's forced out rather then flowing out if that makes sense to anyone else.
@@sovereignsammy8528if you have removed rear seats you find it best with port forward and sub forward Port back and sub back with seats installed causes it to echo a little bouncing off the trunk lid before reaching the rear deck then your ears. Cars are picky because you're putting sound in a sealed area with very little option for it to escape to be heard. That's why you'll find tons of folks run SUV's for bass vehicles. Just overall best option.
I would love to see a test on those 15's where you run one free air like you did with the Deaf Bonce and the Sundown. I considered buying a pair to try but I don't know if I trust a basically unknown company. If it survived 5 minutes at or slightly above RMS I would for sure pick up a pair to replace my Deaf Bonce 305's.
Wait, unknown company? Lol power acoustik been around prolly longer than you been alive. Not always the best brand but they been around. The bamf and the mofo series arent really that bad . Havent messed with the gothics much but looks like they holding up ok..
I would have made the port out of wood. Designed the box with one big port. Never have to worry about it breaking or coming loose. This is how my box is designed for my 4 12s. It handkes 4800+ watts all day long. It has a 2 inch thick baffle.
I appreciate you admitting your mistakes. Everybody does dumb shit. My alternator started making a lot noise so I put my old one back in. I was running a tap through the screw holes just to clean them up a little bit and I accidentally touched the power cable to the battery and damn that scared the hell out of me. It took a big chunk out of the side of the tap. I didn't feel anything and nothing else broke.
I have a sa 12 right now just to throw in to my Tahoe why the other big build is coming together I am doing 1 zv6 15 d1 on a tramps 8k just because I plan on doing 2 sooner or later but for the time being it’s gonna be the 1 in a 6th order 2-1 on the tramps with a 370 mechmen and 2 d3100s hope it sounds good
That's the main reason I wouldn't want a port like that. The rattle would drive me nuts! Slot port all the way! Great video though Parker. Shows you can have loud bass without breaking the bank.
It's best, to secure the port inside the enclosure as well. Make a brace, and cut a hole in the brace, just like the opening of the enclosure, and secure it to the inside of the box as well. Keeps aero ports secure and braced inside, as well as screwed to the outside.
Idea for a next video maybe show the guys how much difference some dowels to reinforce the box makes. Maybe a little seal tape on that back window would help too.
also these subs i've seen in a really low tuned box, just i dont remember the exactly the tuning freq, but it was 25 hz or lower, and they liked that box...
I'm running six of these power acoustic gothic 12s with 3 of the power acoustic Rzr1-2500 amps and I was very surprised on how they sound.. I've had them for over a year and have been beating on them and I've never had issues.. I have a couple of videos on my page check them out
Beat da box loose i love my 2 gothics when i had em you jus made me regret sellin em seeing they were the best subs ive ever owned in the almost year i been into thus hobby lol
Parker , I’m running 2 of these gothics in a trailblazer on the razor 2500 at 1 ohm, I have a 5 cube box tuned to 30hz, I wish I could SPL it I think I’m close to a 150
Build two different boxes and then face the subs towards each other as well as having the ports on the same side as a sub so everything is facing each other
I been did this years ago to prove to my homeboy who spent thousands on his system.i went to Wal-Mart and killed the whole neighborhood but thanks Parker.
Ill tell u one thing they may be from walmart but they have taken evetything you have thrown at them not bad at all better than the rockvilkes you tested they would have been gone by now keep bassing great video brother
Can you try out the decaf version of white clouds in a video? ... It's consistently the loudest song I can find to play on most of the systems I've messed with
Now think about it this way Parker, if you took and added up the cost off all these junk 12's and them two razr amps you could've bought a pair of American Bass 15's and been slappin hard!
That box is falling apart because u didn't use any wood glue.. i watched your video when u built it and all u did was screw it together without glue and u put silicone on the top baffle which does nothing to hold the wood together.
Test Some of the other subs you have already tested but in your truck and see what DB they can hit an if it's a crazy difference the American Bass XFL did some awesome numbers I wonder if that same sub would be higher now 🤔🍻🔊🔊🤙🏼
I have two of these in a ported box on a planet audio 5k, not sure what the rms spec is but they beat like hell I used to have them on the pa rzr 2500d thought they sounded good but they slam like hell now and don’t smoke or smell
Would down firing them help at all ya think? I have a set of those and a set of P3 12s! My honest opinion... I like the Gothics better. Running the p3s currently in a down firing center console that's 4 cubes after displacements, tuned to 32hz. Trying the Gothics again soon
I’ve never personally chased numbers but I like seeing people that do. Them Walmart subs are actually doing pretty good
Old school spl tip : find out the cabin gain frequency of your truck , tune your port to that frequency. Extra dbs for free
How do you find the cabin gain frequency of a car/truck?
@@no-ksam-on6320Right! Everyone acts like they know everything until you question them on it😂
I love the budget equipment tests keep them coming
Try Focal Utopias?
@@htarpaulin6793only problem with that is remembering the name long enough to afford them lol
This is awesome info you're doing for the people who don't have the money for big names. If I were starting out again, I would be glad to have your videos
Agreed, seen other walmart builds but they were not as in depth and detailed.
@@darnellc7276 yup. I have a few walmart builds on youtube but none of my videos hold a candle to parkers.
People can say what they want!!! Those subs put in the work.... Especially for the price!! Nice excursion!!
yeah? but for how long is the question...
@@MrGame31373 Ask the same question for any speaker you over power or clip! Depends on how you play them!!
I have 2 of these on a 4k mono. They been banging for 9 months so far
@@MrGame31373 i have 4 of these n been pushing em for 1 1/2
year
I disagree. Most the time I see them not working. Due to set up and even when set up right they either smoke or max out easy. Skar audio is a better choice get some svr 12 bet that would be louder. There is more brands I would choose over those.
EVERY HUMAN BEING IS BUILT DIFFERENT!! I'm almost 40, been bassin since 15, and competing. I go to the ear doctor every 6 months. Absolutely NO hearing damage or loss. (Not saying won't or will happen) That's also only 55hz and down. That I really expose myself to with 140-168.3. Also never for super long periods of time. So all in all.
#BASSATYOUROWNRISK
#BUTKEEPBASSIN
#BASSHEADFAMILY
Yeah, I have seen plenty that says bass is fine. Hearing is usually damaged around the frequencies of exposure. A bit of hearing loss at 25hz is not going to have a huge impact on life or really even be noticeable in most cases. Its the guys that run all the mids and especially tweeters at ridiculously high power they wind up with issues. I have to do yearly hearing exams for work and mine stays roughly the same, it has actually improved slightly over the last couple of years which I attribute to some diet and exercise changes.
I love when the audio from the base demo comes through clear and we can bump it on our own system
Parker squashed the controversy whether gothic 12s can take 1000 watts or more. Great video!! Best one yet in my book. I think you could do a lot of different videos in the budget arena of car audio...maybe even straight up spl system with a lot or mostly cheaper items. Good job dude!
no way they would last very long with that much power. sure playing for a few minutes they hold up but after days or weeks theyre gonna blow
@@SbassLaser idk I have 2 of them for over a year now and they haven't blown . I have a crown xli3500 dj amp in my garage. They're not bad for 100 bucks.
They cant take 1250rms for long at all skar 1200 froze one up asap......if you wanna smell subs allday on half power buy these coils turned black my sundown sa 12s will will take it an never get warm an the sa rated less rms power
@@boostedmk5gti563 I probably would only trust 600 to 900 rms in them for any length of time. Everyone knows they're inflating what they can take; it's just marketing to grab your attention I suppose.
@@mattsnider5904 yep... been beating my GOTHIC now well over a year with 2000 watts.... MINISTRY rumbles the car. Best budget Woofer?. BDBD/2023
keep em coming brother. love your videos. to me this video shows on a strict budget you can have bass.
That was a fun one! Great numbers!! That was funny as hell when it started blowing the box apart. Lol
Try the subs facing up and ports facing back but keep space between port and back . Or speakers facing back and ports up. It would be cool to see which way is louder
Power acoustic doesn’t do rated power but damn these things are impressive. Love these videos where underdog subs get the justice they deserve especially for the price
If your learning about car audio its the best sub since its cheap and easily replaced . I have a single gothic on 800w that pulls 130's from the trunk so box matters a lot here .
Use lots of Titebond 3 and clamps. Also Bracing where you can. And keep ports roughly the width of the port away from the back of the box. I love the pa subs
Nice. I've got to old planet audio bb10d4 in a yaris on a tramps hd3k. Finally 1 of them the glue started coming apart. Rebuilt it and beating it hard again. It's fun to play with the cheaper subs. I've had just about all of them over the years. The box is everything. Keep up coming.
That poor box omg 😱 the power acoustic subs held up very nice 👍👍👍🤩
I've been really impressed with the Gothic subs. I bought a pair for my son's first build. Ran a Autotek mean machine on them. I had the PA amp also, but the Autotek had a little more power.
Nice video. I use to run 2 Gothic off of a 4000 watt anarchy and they thumped nice! I was surprised by the quality for the price! When the box breaks before the subs blow its a nice thing! Good job!
And the anarchy probably didn't even do 1k
@@vaughandieselsweeklyword9331 I’ve never heard of any of that equipment so I think you’re probably right. Based off the name, I’d guess 300 watts. I love when the reviews on Amazon of BOSS amps and subs talk about how hard they hit and how clean it sounds 😂
For someone starting out, those gothic series subs will get the job done.
I love that you brought back the budget system for another go with a better amp!
Remove that baffle with those aero ports and run a slot port.
Aero ports are the easy way of doing it they are adjustable, but they rattle so it distorts sound. Add bracing to the box and give it 1 last GO.
I mentioned a couple videos back
To run those Subs on a real amp and you would notice a difference.
In a small area when you're in that same spot as the subs and port , *trucks* the space is so small that port and speaker directions only effect the sound minimally.
Good video Parker!
What's the pros and cons of facing a ported box forward to cabin or backward to the trunk? Sedan car.
I agree the round ports sound the same as when your subs aren't sealed to the baffle correctly. The way the air has to escape sees rough. Like it's forced out rather then flowing out if that makes sense to anyone else.
@@sovereignsammy8528if you have removed rear seats you find it best with port forward and sub forward
Port back and sub back with seats installed causes it to echo a little bouncing off the trunk lid before reaching the rear deck then your ears.
Cars are picky because you're putting sound in a sealed area with very little option for it to escape to be heard.
That's why you'll find tons of folks run SUV's for bass vehicles. Just overall best option.
That sucks you blew an amp. But definitely appreciate you putting your stuff out there to be hurt for our entertainment purposes. Thanks bud.
Congratulations for hitting 70k 😋🙌🏽 #milestoneto100k
This is probably my favorite video so far brother so cool man love this one!
Tens of thousands of watts wind monsters? Cool. Budget builds showing off the common stuff? Also very cool.
Next box....more bracing, screws, and glue. Those subs were winning that battle 👍👍👍
I would love to see a test on those 15's where you run one free air like you did with the Deaf Bonce and the Sundown. I considered buying a pair to try but I don't know if I trust a basically unknown company. If it survived 5 minutes at or slightly above RMS I would for sure pick up a pair to replace my Deaf Bonce 305's.
Wait, unknown company? Lol power acoustik been around prolly longer than you been alive. Not always the best brand but they been around. The bamf and the mofo series arent really that bad . Havent messed with the gothics much but looks like they holding up ok..
PA is not unknown, they are an affordable brand and make a ton of stuff. Some of their subs are pretty good. They are 30 years in business.
@@erik120719 i think he was referring to the black brick 15s
@@RomaVilla ahh i usually miss the point lol
"Parker the basshead" that nane clears everything up, straight subscribed as a basshead myself
I have these same subs wired to 1 ohm pushing 2400 watts shits pretty good for the price
Great vid Parker. I think you should put 8 of those in there on both your BB AUDIO amps an see what those numbers are!!!!!!
Time for a Harbor freight engine lift. Would make box loading and removals so much easier. That lifted truck life is hard on the back.
Atv or dirt bike lift.
i had 2 12s of the all black model gothics, no blue on them. and they made my windshield flex.
I would have made the port out of wood. Designed the box with one big port. Never have to worry about it breaking or coming loose. This is how my box is designed for my 4 12s. It handkes 4800+ watts all day long. It has a 2 inch thick baffle.
What a cool test of those Gothic subs. Who knew they would take 5k and like it. lol Have a great day Parker!
Who knew? I did lol
Short vid of them putting in work on a taramps smart 5 bass ua-cam.com/video/JC2LKgalSyE/v-deo.html
Those subwoofers are movin!!!!!, I as well will post a video of my 12s movin in these next couple of days
I appreciate you admitting your mistakes. Everybody does dumb shit. My alternator started making a lot noise so I put my old one back in. I was running a tap through the screw holes just to clean them up a little bit and I accidentally touched the power cable to the battery and damn that scared the hell out of me. It took a big chunk out of the side of the tap. I didn't feel anything and nothing else broke.
I bet all the normal superduty water leaks pale in comparison to what you must have! Great video!
Great video Parker!!!😊
I have a sa 12 right now just to throw in to my Tahoe why the other big build is coming together I am doing 1 zv6 15 d1 on a tramps 8k just because I plan on doing 2 sooner or later but for the time being it’s gonna be the 1 in a 6th order 2-1 on the tramps with a 370 mechmen and 2 d3100s hope it sounds good
That's the main reason I wouldn't want a port like that. The rattle would drive me nuts! Slot port all the way! Great video though Parker. Shows you can have loud bass without breaking the bank.
It's best, to secure the port inside the enclosure as well. Make a brace, and cut a hole in the brace, just like the opening of the enclosure, and secure it to the inside of the box as well. Keeps aero ports secure and braced inside, as well as screwed to the outside.
I like slot port also, not only does it have secure ports , but it also adds structural integrity to the box, bracing and no rattle, cant beat it IMHO
145DB isn't a bad score at all
Ha just when I thought the video was over you come back and say let’s let these babies eat. I love it! Walmart son, that’s quality
I'm doing 146db on a triple stack of 12in Rockford H2. On less power and a sealed enclosure
I really love your videos man also like you I enjoy cheap subs my current home audio is a Jensen Walmart sub
I remember having some Fubars WAAAY back in the day. Those were great subs for how cheap they were.
Idea for a next video maybe show the guys how much difference some dowels to reinforce the box makes. Maybe a little seal tape on that back window would help too.
The power of power base they have some pretty decent amps too I have I have a 3500 watt razor and it sounds pretty good
Love the panda bass knob bro that’s bad ass
The good ol slam panda
I had some of those. They are amazing for the price. I tried time and time again to blow them too and couldn’t. I ended up just selling them lmao
Build a wall with these. See how loud you can get with them. like the ultimate budget wall build. See how many you can fit in the truck
What are your playlists? Both Apple Music and Spotify. I’m really interested in them!
Love seeing those gothic don 5k. Keep up the great budget content
also these subs i've seen in a really low tuned box, just i dont remember the exactly the tuning freq, but it was 25 hz or lower, and they liked that box...
I'm running six of these power acoustic gothic 12s with 3 of the power acoustic Rzr1-2500 amps and I was very surprised on how they sound.. I've had them for over a year and have been beating on them and I've never had issues.. I have a couple of videos on my page check them out
maybe try a 4th order box and have it tuned within the range of the subs... let's see how good we can make em sound... now I'm interested
I am not even there and I can smell those woofer's 🤣🤣. Great video 🤘
Those Gothics take a beating!!!
Beat da box loose i love my 2 gothics when i had em you jus made me regret sellin em seeing they were the best subs ive ever owned in the almost year i been into thus hobby lol
Ayeeeeeee bumping that nobody’s perfect 🔥🔥🔥never hear that song in demos but it’s one of my favorite hard hitting songs for my dd 712
Parker , I’m running 2 of these gothics in a trailblazer on the razor 2500 at 1 ohm, I have a 5 cube box tuned to 30hz, I wish I could SPL it I think I’m close to a 150
You should do 2 skar sdr 18s They’re a little over $100 per 18 I would love to see the results on that
Those are great budget bangers. Get pretty loud on lower power, and like the lows!
That was a kick ass video. Dollar for dollar that's a tough act to follow.
Man I got the same truck would love for your help on mine 💯💯💯💯💪💪💪💪
I do too 👍😎
Those black bricks would look awesome inverted in the back of my 2018 subaru cross trek!
Man that N2deep Back To The Hotel!
Them motors must be smoking? Good times. 👍
Great video. Love it!!!
I really dig the budget setups! How about a Pioneer build? Thank you for the videos 👍
Build two different boxes and then face the subs towards each other as well as having the ports on the same side as a sub so everything is facing each other
Sometimes pyramid or pyle has lots of 4 or 8 packs of woofers for a good deal.✌🏼
Made an Ooopsie! 3K Dead! But the 145db man Awesome!!!
Those gothics are pumping!!!
Fun build, gonna try 20 cheap 8 inch on 10.500 RMS soon myself
Power Acoustik for the win. Those handle way more power than my kicker comps.
You should see the video where 2 Kicker Comp 12s do 150 decibels on like 500 watts. Type Kicker Comp 12s doing 150 db in UA-cam and it should pop up.
You should see the video where 2 Kicker Comp 12s do 150 db on like 500 watts. Type Kicker Comp 12s doing 150 db in UA-cam and it should pop up.
I been did this years ago to prove to my homeboy who spent thousands on his system.i went to Wal-Mart and killed the whole neighborhood but thanks Parker.
hey Parker can you do an in depth vid how to connect the amps and way to hook up subs.thnx buddy
I run two of those Gothics in a 5Cf ported box tuned for 36hz and they SLAM OUT. About to stick a Skar1200 on them and let them eat
I hooked up my friend's system with two of those subs and a 7000 watt amp it's loud and I'm surprised it can handle it
Ill tell u one thing they may be from walmart but they have taken evetything you have thrown at them not bad at all better than the rockvilkes you tested they would have been gone by now keep bassing great video brother
Gotta love that old Gucci swing my door!
Dang man sorry to hear that on your amp but I must say them subs put up some impressive numbers to be what they are
Now do 4 of the biggest 12s now please
I have three of them in my Crown Vic need a bigger amp though to push him thanks for the video
Can you test a L7 15" Q SERIES, DUAL 2 OHM, on a gravity warzone, then test the 15" brickhouse
Can you make a video on how to connect the headway bank with the Agm battery? Also does your alternator charge the lithium bank?
Can you try out the decaf version of white clouds in a video? ... It's consistently the loudest song I can find to play on most of the systems I've messed with
Parker, what's your favorite 12s, ever?
Now think about it this way Parker, if you took and added up the cost off all these junk 12's and them two razr amps you could've bought a pair of American Bass 15's and been slappin hard!
budget banging! 💪
Love it!! Now those are very loud for budget subs.
The problem with the box is your carpentry skills. The problem with the amp is your Install skills.
Love how you say "again" lol
Thanx for the content my dude
That box is falling apart because u didn't use any wood glue.. i watched your video when u built it and all u did was screw it together without glue and u put silicone on the top baffle which does nothing to hold the wood together.
Well done 👏
Test Some of the other subs you have already tested but in your truck and see what DB they can hit an if it's a crazy difference the American Bass XFL did some awesome numbers I wonder if that same sub would be higher now 🤔🍻🔊🔊🤙🏼
PtBH. ...love your videos man!
What up Parker enjoying the videos bro keep up the good work.
If you don't mind can you do a side by side comparison of the American bass xfl and American bass hawk please sir
I have two of these in a ported box on a planet audio 5k, not sure what the rms spec is but they beat like hell I used to have them on the pa rzr 2500d thought they sounded good but they slam like hell now and don’t smoke or smell
Would down firing them help at all ya think? I have a set of those and a set of P3 12s! My honest opinion... I like the Gothics better. Running the p3s currently in a down firing center console that's 4 cubes after displacements, tuned to 32hz. Trying the Gothics again soon