NEW! Campagnolo Bora Ultra WTO 45 Wheels Review // Snazzy looks, big price, stunning performance
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- My review of the brand new Campagnolo Bora Ultra WTO 45 wheels around the lanes of the Cotswolds.
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Content
00:00 Fancy Intro
00:37 New Bora wheels
00:49 Bora history
1:52 Tech details
4:13 The price…
4:42 Tyre setup
5:17 Ride Impressions
6:13 Aerodynamics
8:30 Handling
9:24 Are they wide enough?
11:34 Verdict
13:36 Freehub sound check! - Спорт
Italian bike with Italian groupset paired with Italian wheels and Italian tyres. Jeez, this is what heaven looks like
Celeste is the colour of heaven
Bianchi, made in Vietnam, so sort of Italian?
@@waynosfotos 😄😄😄
Oh make sure the rider is Italian as well 🙄
No Italian pedals!!
Beautiful wheels and beautiful bike! You’re a very lucky man David Arthur!
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Man you really get me jealous some of these bikes you get to ride. Great video once again though you get some great shots
Splendid video on these tippety top wheels!
Happy that my bora wto don‘t loose a lot of time against the ultras! Not sure if the upgrade would be worth it. I can say that the wto 45 already run super smooth and with the tubeless setup even nicer. Also they handle crosswinds really well - I was in aldcudia and there was a lot of wind which scared me, but no problem for these wheels.
Possibly my next wheels! Will go well on either my Bianchi Oltre or Factor Ostro Vam ;) And perfect hub noise, or lack of, I'm in!
Buying these so appreciated your review David. Love the idea of no brake surface so keeps wheels prestine 👌Work of art big ✅ 25mm tubeless perfect for that lightweight, fast & comfortable solution. Those hubs and that rim surface thou 🤩👉🌶
Wow, right after seeing it in Instagram!
Thanks mate good review
Great video 👍
Great review buddy... Much appreciated. Just got the campi wto 45 with ubless gp5000 conti tires....
Did you get the Ultras? I’m thinking about the WTO 45 (non-Ultra) with the gp5000 (currently on 4000)... could you please tell me more or less how big the tire inflates at? I’m not sure my older BMC SLR01 frame (2013) will have the clearance for it. I’m currently on 25c but the outer width of my Mavic Ksyrium Elite S is a mere 20mm (about time for an upgrade!). Thanks!
How difficult was it to fit the GP5000 TL??
Perfectly mature review. I personally don't understand the obsession with comfort on a road racing frame. I believe it is a fad that will wain along with road disc, high pressure road tubeless, and hookless. I ride the 2nd iteration of Aeolus D3's that were 100 percent hand laid in the US with likewise 19mm internal and 26.8 external. Absolutely perfect for a 24mm front and 26mm rear Sworks tire. Bought new in 2015 and still my favorite set. Thanks for the content!
Lovely review and gorgeous bike :)
Stunning wheels....good review..
nice review...I have bora ultra 50 mm tubulars....1200g of seriously quick goodness...Not sure it gets much better than that,,,,but tempted to give these a go....
I have been waiting for these wheels to come out since Feb. when I saw its name on UCI wheels list!
Super review. I plan to shod my Bora WTOs with Vittoria 28 TL but now watching your video, I am not so sure anymore. Maybe the P-Zero 26 will be better but sad that it is not available in tan wall. As well, I don't think you mentioned but the hubs are cup & cone so that means serving will take a bit more time and care as compared to swapping out bearings. +1 for quieter hubs but sometimes a loud free hub is a nice way to warn the person ahead. :-)
Just hear to commend you on putting 'snazzy' back in the mix 👍
Love the cranks.
Stunning set of wheels another good video mate well done👍🏻 were get your water bottles from? Lol
Thanks. The water bottles are from Fabric fabric.cc/products/hydration/gripper-bottle-600ml-bikes-bikes-bikes/
Great reviews David. Compare to Zipp 303 Firecrest which whellset do you recommend?
It must be mighty hard giving them back!
Yes! Very much so
@@davidarthur what happens if you dont give them back or crash them?
Thought I clicked GCN. This is a great video
"These aren't wheels to shout about how deep your pockets are"
Riiiiight 😉
I will be getting a pair of TWO 60 (non Ultra) for my Bianchi Oltre XR4 disc.
Great review David, I particularly like the point on internal width and the trend for wider but I think the 25/26mm suits the Specialissima's character being in Bianchi's race category. These wheels look fantastic when combined with the Specialissima, I've a 2020 rim brake version and I'd love to add wheels like that to my bike. Do they come in a rim brake format?
I agree these 26mm Pirelli tyres suit the bike well, it’s definitely not an uncomfortable ride. These wheels are disc brake only I’m afraid
great review - I agree that the wheel width is a deal breaker. Makes them less future proof.
Damn that frame is a beaut
Thinking what else i need to achieve in life If i managed to get this pairs.
Btw, i don’t really get the idea why a race bike/wheels have to be as wide as the trends are currently (25-28 is the sweet spot i think). Day to day commute maybe yes, but u don’t simply put on these wheels to commute though. Pair of aluminium wheels would do great in my view.
My experience is wider tubeless tires over 28mm are too heavy, so wheels has to be really light to experience wide tire "sensation". Otherwise I better stay with 19-21mm inner width cost effective reasonably light wheels paired with tubeless light tires. Modern quality tubeless 28mm are supple and extremely pleasing to ride.
I want a pair!
Hi David, which wheel do you believe is better from your testing, the zipp 404 firecrest or the campagnolo ultra
I want to ask if all the pawl ring nuts can be removed for the Campagnolo hub, thank you
Great video! How does it compare to the Bora WTO 45?
Great review. Love the bike. Out of curiosity how tall are you and what size frame is that Bianchi?
It's a 55 and I'm 5'11" and it fits like a glove. Closer look at the Bianchi coming soon...
@@davidarthur please don't wait too long :)
What do you reckon to HJC helmet Vs Giro in terms of fit and finish at a given price point?
Sick review!!! But do you think Campagnolo is foretelling something by releasing these wheels with the N3W hub? I’m thinking wireless 13 speed EPS!
That would be cool!! Monster top gear possible with the 9t!!
Jesus Christ these are gorgeous wheels.
Waiting for the Hyperion Ultra review.
I could fit a 28 mm tire on the rear and 25 mm on the front no problem, yea? Also, do these wheels come with the disc rotor? I'm a beginner looking for a wheelset like this but never see the rotor in photos on the websites
Hi I have a 2018 Trek Emonda SL Pro with Aeolus Pro 3 carbon rim brake wheels. I'm looking to upgrade the wheelset. I'm have difficulties finding a wheelset that is truly an upgrade without spending $2500 US dollars or more. I'm not a racer. Will these Bora wheels make a big difference are they worth the price over the Bontrager Aeolus Pro 3. Can you make any other recommendations for other rim brake wheels with a 44 mm depth?
Thanks
THX❤️
Very pleased that you can pronounce CampaGNolo correctly😍😂
Haha I tried my best but my Italian isn't great I know
@@davidarthur
Campanyolo
What about "made in far west wheels" prononciation ?! However nice wheels , but fulcrum too very nice (campa brand) 👍
I have the WTO 45 Ultra rim brake version. And yes, they are great wheels, but I really wish they were 21 mm internal width. I've had many Campy wheels since getting a pair of Eurus back in the early 2000's. All have been great and "Bullet" proof (😁), but I must admit Campy development to bring new tech to market is slow. They just take so long to move from initial intro by competitors of new tech to getting it into their products, but at least when their products come out, they are really nice. And with wheels, it seemed like a forever wait to just to get a new wheelset wider than 15/17mm. My HED wheels with 21 internal rider super nice with 25 or 28mm tires.
It's probably because the "new tech" is often a stupid idea to begin with and Campagnolo are waiting to see if they need to be dragged along with the mainstream market idiocy... It's just a pity that these trends are impossible to resist in the end because of the masisve money behind them from the big U.S. brands. 19mm internal is ideal really, wider than that is suboptimal for tyres below 28mm width, and 23mm and 25mm are faster on anything but very rough roads unless you are really heavy..
25 is as wide as I would go on a road bike. 28 for the cloddy. Interesting these wheels cost as much as my new one day it will arrive new racer. How did you get product from Campy?
It's like a brushed carbon fibre finish!!
How do you compare the ride feel of these wheels vs. Zipp 303 Firecrest, you loved so much?
Just bought the Bora Ultra WTO 60 because finding wheels now that have a narrow internal width to run 25mm tires, with a hooked rim is getting harder and harder. I just dont get wider tires.
Hi David, have you done reviews on scribe aero wheels? What a your thoughts?
I haven't reviewed Scribe wheels but I'm aware of them, and I can add them to the list to review in the future
@@davidarthur thanks David.
No None Disc?
That freewheel spin test is actually not very good. Either the bearing tension is a bit too tight, or the bearings haven't been ridden in enough. My Bora (rim version) spins beautifully, and in the end, it doesn't suddenly 'block' like the Bora's in the clip do.
The drama goes in before the name goes on. Awesome looking wheels but, I love my 28mm P Zeros, tubeless of course.
My alloy rims, with a braking surface included weigh just over 1390 g for the set so a more accurate weight comparison should add 236 g fo
Add 236 g for two Dura Ace discs to give an all up weight of 1685g for this wheeset.😁
Always preferre a quiet him than loud clicks!
Wow, Bora prices floating upwards!
the standard wto is 1,8K so i think its still an ok prince for one the fastest wheels
nice wheelset.. how do u compare this with Zipp 353 NSW?
Hopefully I’ll get the chance to ride the Zipp wheels. On paper they are lighter and wider but need to ride them first
@@davidarthur I see..looking foward to that when you can get your hand on the new Zipp 353 NSW. Great content as always.
@David Arthur ah cembang la ko stakat sportrim itali ni aku hantar maman idola opal TI sportrim Chainah pon buleh setel. Ko igt kiteorg xtau barang ke hanat.Hancit tol la. Meleis biasala lambong dulo pastu baru kutuk
@@jimbink1892 hahaha. Kena bantai 🤣
How do these compare against the ZIPP 303s?
Budget vs super premium
That is what i thought of too, esp the firecrest 303s, as they have the same weight.. less than half the price.
@@Stevenafoe I'd expect the WTO Ultra's would be faster given the aero development and bearings, also they were used by the Tour de France winner - I mean that's quite the endorsement! Also I'd bet the Zipp cartridge bearings would need replacing many times over before you'd have any issue with the Campag ceramic cup and cone bearings. At half the price of the WTO ultra's I'd be looking at the standard WTO, not as light as the Zipp, granted but very fast and great reviews - what I'm saving for in any case!
Is it worth double the price of the Non Ultra WTO?
To me - no, I really want the 'standard' WTO and also I have rim brakes! I'm also not a pro - not even close and the Bora WTO is already dream wheelset to me. However for pro riders chasing marginal gains then absolutely! Though would have been nice to a see rim version.
Wow it spins so long during the freehub sound test..
nice wheel but the warranty not so good I go for zipp
A tragedy that Campagnolo are being forceably dragged along by the disc brake marketing bollox, and that it is no longer commercially viable to make a rim brake version of a new top-end wheel such as this (or a tubular version for that matter). Screw disc brakes and their cynical pushers in the industry
🍝🤌🏽
It’s simply not right that cyclists and consumers have choice and options taken away based on “popular” trends
I just can’t get behind the spoke lacing pattern for purely aesthetic reasons.
Quiet free hub.....divine.
- A fresh set of Bora wheels: 1.450 gr and over 3.000€
- My current Mavic set: 1.770 gr and just 100€
Can anyone justify the massive price tag?
No comparison mate! Watch the review again :)
WHAT'S THE WIDEST TIRE YOU CAN RIDE ON THEM?.. I WANT 35MM ON THEM?
28mm was the official max for this bike I believe. If you want tyres that wide is a race bike the right option, and not an endurance bike?
So nice looking but Shamals are more my budget! 😎
All of Campagnolo's wheels are solid and fast to be honest.
Got the Shamals a few weeks ago für 999€. The Looks are pretty similar to the WTOS. I am very happy with my Shamals. The only downside was the silent freehub. But you can fix this very easy by getting the grease out of it and then put a small amount of lube in it. There ist too much greasy in it in my opinion. After cleaning it out the freehub sounds very nice👍🏼
@@mmpband You had me at SILENT FREEHUB 😍 lol 👌
@OSH you won't regret it. Buy them they are beautyful!
Great!, mate wheels are boring, love the glossy look
Sorry David, tubeless being faster than tubular is just a flat out lie. The TRUTH is they are all the same at normal riding speeds. In fact, a 23mm on the front is faster as far as aero goes. As to rolling resistance, it has little influence over 12-15km/ph, as the gain is insignificant compared to the aero wattage losses. I don't know where they get this data from. It is just complete rubbish! Not trolling and i realise this is the marketing data, just stating the REAL facts. Dont get me wrong, campy fan and run bora ultra two campy carbon rims. So like their products. But those gains are just massively over stated.
Good afternoon David
Were you able to give me some help? I'm undecided between this Bora Ultra and a Zipp NSW, as I didn't say any, I'd like to get an opinion from someone who has tried everything.
Thanks
If your roads are smooth enough you don't need balloon tires. NSW ars slightly lighter but the larger tires are heavier. I went from Zipp 404 to these and the Zipps are not even comparable in the looks and class department. For me it would depend on the bike. I ride a new Prince and personally I think Zipps look terrible on Pinarellos.
@@norbertibarra9029 The star of my life is a Giant TCR SL 2021.
I already had a 303nsw front and a 404Nsw back on my Propel and I loved the wheels... the zipp reference weight is misleading because they don't have a valve or tape, but it's lower...
I want something different and between the standard G3 and the Wave nsw they are two different wheels than usual... but I don't know the feeling of the ultras... so I asked David for help... because he must have tried it on his TCR too.. .
@@edgaralves6904 thats a great set up! I believe you have ceramic bearings on those Zipps. Probably wont noticd much of a difference other than the smaller tire. I'd say only buy them for the looks. Your call at the end of the day. Good luck and enjoy!
@@norbertibarra9029 none of the zipp wheels come with ceramic bearings, if you want it's an extra €200 for the bearing kit, but they do come with a lifetime warranty, Sawtooth profile, super light weight and the Cognition V2 hub. On Campi you pay for the bearings, for the nozzle technology, for the look and for what I read the bad warranty
@@edgaralves6904 Yes to all of that! On the Ultras you can true the wheel without taking off the tire too which is nice. no rim tape to deal with either
What a combo here! Incredible. Does it get better, prettier, more elegant, more top of the line than this? A big fat NOPE!
it surprise me they not doing hookless on disc brake only
Why? That would be really stupid. It only works for ultra-wide tyres at low presssures, which are slower on anything but very rough roads.
@@neil7769 you have points
may be campy want to stick with both type tyres. and hookless doesnt mean it needs to be crazy wide( like cadex). it just another way to make the rim more stiff more accure but lower cost
please correct me if im wrong.
and another brand roval stick to hooked rim too
it just something i dont know why
some of UAE was going tubeless, and i think hookless rim with tubeless setup, could it be a win-win situation?
@@NeoPayneHK I think that the lower cost is the main driving force behind hookless rims. Other than some slight potential weight savings it has no advantage to the user and quite a few disadvantages.
v Zipp 454 NSW
I laugh when the pro peloton think 25/ 28mm tyres are wide.......
25mm are faster than 28mm 😱
he finally actually said it said it a round about way!
Yep
Dated wheels . Stupid G3, someone to explain us G3, is there any torisonal strech in hubs?
G3 is tried and tested for many years and is known to build very stiff, bomb-proof wheels. What's your problem with it? The theory: you have twice as many spokes on the drive side due to the shallower dishing required by the cassette on that side. This means that the normal difference in spoke tension between drive side and non-drive side due to bracing angle can be less than it would be with the same number of spokes on each side. Practice: it works extremely well.
I've been riding campagnolo Eurus (aluminium wheels) since 2008 with the 3G spoke pattern, still perfect though rims very worn now! Very strong wheels so no cannot fault the 3G spoke pattern.
@@arthurhood8030 it does not make any sense the pattern 3G . Always cross pattern both sides makes superiore lateral stiffness .
Wind tunnel testing?? The channel is called "Just Ride Bikes"
Thats a real joke! We should hope they test them in wind tunnels after 3years and at that price point ....
those spokes don't look very aero..
How so? They're bladed spokes
@@davidarthur dont look as thin as maybe they are.
What the heck? why would you want to use more than 28s on a race bike????? your final point is pretty out of focus
My thoughts exactly!!
That hyper-celeste looks cheap
a wider tire is not more aero, that makes no sense
Who said a wider tyre is more aero? The point is a wider rim with a wider tyre is more aero than a wide tyre on a narrow rim
@@davidarthur misheard what you said at 10:02 ("the wider you want the rim")
🙏👍🔥🇵🇷💯
Remove the disk breaks!!
#savetherimbrake
So the new wheelset comes with 5 more spokes on the front wheel plus those horrible discs, and pretends to be more aero than the previous version that came with just 18 spokes, hmm good look with the advertising, It is not going to be faster just because they are called and tested in wind tunnels that don't simulate the turbulences and real drag aspects of a natural environment.
Look like some top wheels. Too much money for me unfortunately...
Me too - I'm saving for the normal Bora WTO almost as good - half the price! Plus I need rim brake version
30 mm on race bike omg
Don`t like. Still prefer my Bora Ultra 50 for rim brakes and tubes.
Just shut up. Here's the money. Boras were desirable in mid 2000s when only Lightweights were an alternative. Zip, Enve etc stole a march on Campagnolo but here we are in 2021 and even more desirable imo. I don't use carbon rims but these would be my choice if I hadn't got Lightweight money
It's crazy. You give the wheels a glowing review and now you have to return them. Geeze, Campagnolo is one greedy company.
A guess you are joking - right? Or you think they should give every reviewer a £3k set of wheels for a glowing review? I mean would you not think that it would provide a big incentive to give a glowing review regardless of it is deserved or not - in which case the review becomes useless.
@@arthurhood8030 O.K., O.K., I stand corrected! 😆
No, not going to say it. Nope! Nope!
Disc only, no thanks
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