The Fastest Bike Wheels Campagnolo Have Ever Made! | GCN Tech Show Ep.174
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- Campagnolo have just released their new WTO range of wheels! The Italian brand's new wind tunnel optimised, disc brake only wheels are reportedly the fastest they've ever made! In this episode of the GCN Tech show, Ollie & Alex take a closer look! We also have all your usual favourites: hot tech, your upgrades, and the Bike Vault!
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What do you think about Campagnolo's new WTO wheels? Let us know in the comments below!
I like the Sound of the wheels. Even I do not like Campagnolo at all.
Good for the professional cyclist - a bit much for the average club rider.
🤔🤔😏
Unless your bowling around at over 35 kph average save your money .
Where are my rim brake pair?
@@CoconutJuice881 You will never get new wheels as rim version again. The market for new rim brake bikes is dying.
Finally some campag stuff mentioned on the show! Keep it coming :D
GCN is sponsored by Shimano
Because they paid GCN to mention the new wheels...
That campagnolo wheelset is a piece of art.
I agree. But Corima are cooler eh eh
agree...
Ollie’ s reaction to Alex’s comment about what Campagnolo has done with nipples is hilarious 😂 It’s almost as funny as his reaction to Alex’s “I love a solid tool” comment in a previous video 🤣
LOL!!!!!
At almost $ 4700.00 a pair ,I will have to wait for the book to come out!
That alterlock anti theft device looks good for bike packers when sleeping in the tent 🏕🤔👍
Thanks for your comment!!
me having a 60$ bike from 2010
looking at GCN's 1000$ bike
and drooling over them
3150 euro wheels!
All of these expensive gear is totally unnecessary unless your racing. But they’re cool to have. If you can’t afford the latest gear today. Someday you eventually will. Thanks to trickle down technology.
If you think about it. Yesterday’s high end aluminum frames and carbon forks. Are today’s entry level and midrange bikes. In the future when they figure out how to fully automate carbon frame production. We’ll have affordable lightweight and durable carbon bikes.
@@iMadrid11 +1 I own a pair of Enve 3.4 and A BMC Roadmachine 01. If I had a chance of doing it again, I would just buy a Canyon Endurace sl or even those a Winspace. For 1 and fancy equipment didn’t and will not transform me into WvA. 2, after I rode them, I can really feel the diminishing return. I can go so far to say as good as they are, they are still “just a bike”.
That Alterlock is a great idea but $200 Canadian is a 'not a snowballs chance in hell' from me.
Love the fact Ollie is promoting the GCN "shadow" stand whereas Alex chooses to promote and all together different product the "shallow" stand🤣👍
One allows you to do a karaoke cover with Lady Gaga. The other holds your bike up.
The bike thefts are per 100k, rather than the number of bikes according to the fine print.
Correct Jennifer W.
Per wikipedia, Manchester’s population is just over 2.8 million. So the 5 bikes per 100k is actually 140 bikes stolen.
Glad somebody said it. Come on science guys!!
Seeing as the Ultra WTO's are going to cost me a kidney, an all-rounder 45 would be appropriate. Please GCN, more Campy love, it just rides different.
Great to see you guys spend some quality time talking about Campagnolo tech. More please! MORE! BTW, cup/cone bearings are better to fine adjust imo.
"Rotational drag" ... Ollie: I have no idea what I'm talking about!
Sitting here wearing my Boone Technologies wedding ring, I was pleased to see Bruce back in the components business. His old MTB cranks were an object of desire.
Waiting on Hambini thoughts on those wheels..
Watching this episode and kept cringing at the parts that I knew Hambini would tear apart 😬😬.
Yay to the new Endura bibshorts! Also looking forward to new mini series on bike maintenance! 👏🏻😃
I think I can hear Manon yelling about the bike vault results from this side of the Atlantic.
Egregious ignoring of biggie-biggie, misaligned stems, juanty angle for the TT with rider, etc, etc. Only missing a MTB getting a super-nice.
whenever i watch GCN Tech Show my eyes keep gravitating to that Celeste bike at the back.. #throwback #budgetbike #upgrades
Those new Campagnolo look great.
I am already in the prosess of ordering a bespoke Sarto with Super Record on and I might just get the Bora Ultra WTO 60s as well.
Nice video as usual.
check out sebibuchs channel and see his custom sarto with campagnolo super record and bora wheels. he had custom graphics made for his group set his bike is stunning !!!
@@paulhowell7103 Yeah I have seen it.
It's a good looking bike if you like the colors.
I am not a fan of the colors on it.
But I am not a fan of those colors on anything.
So that's my weird taste.
I am going with a Sarto Lampo Plus.
And I have a few ideas for the paint scheme, so I am talking to them to find out how we can do that.
And due to covid restrictions it is hard to get to them for a bike fit at the moment.
Those wheels - phwoooooaaar!!
Boom yea...... hitting our screens with the A-TECHTEAM back again 👊🏻😁
Another faster, lighter, stiffer etc etc wheelset. Although I will say, it is refreshing to see Campag still have hidden spokes which does increase aero. Yes, more of a faff but definitely an advantage.
LOVE the Line of Duty reference at 18:17!!!!
it says rate/100k so it is 5 bike thefts per 100k of something for manchester.. inhabitants or bikes or squirrels or what ever, and on top of that that's the REPORTED cases so
Apple’s new AirTag can be a good device to put in our bikes. Was expecting it to be featured but maybe on next week’s episode.
Could you hide one in the seat post or if too much interference, subtly under the saddle?
@@DrJRMCFC it might be a little big (1.26 inch diameter). Hopefully some company will create accessories to be put on our bikes.
Stunning Wheelsets. Can we have more content on Campagnolo equiped bikes please.
Regarding the drum brakes, I've seen them in recombinants before; they're easily to maintain and are usually OK if you pair two with a rear disc brake. SInce they tend to run hot when braking, I've also seen them used as part of a recharge (regenerative) system, using that heat to recharge an e-recombinant's battery.
I have 70mm Sturmey Archer drum brakes front and rear on my dutch Batavus city bike. So far I have recorded over 18,000km on this bike in over 6 years, mainly errands and commutes and they are pretty bombproof. They are of course totally immune to weather and dirt ingress so are very predictable. There is plenty of modulation and stopping power is understated but effective. You can come to a halt very quickly but you won't do a stoppie or lock the front. I find them a joy to use. I've never had to change the brake shoes or had any issues at all - though you have to watch the brake reaction arm is held in place properly, if the frame has no facility, the steel band required has to be up to the job - not all are! I've not had any overheating problem at all with this bike but I have once (as a teenager) conducted an experiment on a dutch bike I had then (also with Sturmey Archer drums) where I came down a 1 mile descent in Wales with a max 20% gradient using the back brake only all the way down. I wanted to see what happened! It cooked the brake to the extent that the chrome plating of the hub (yes it was that old) discoloured and smoke was pouring out of the hub! After cooling it needed repair! The shoes were glazed and the mechanism had temporarily seized up. Using both front and rear together on long steep descents avoids the problem although if I wanted to use drum brakes in the Alps I'd opt for the 90mm version at last for the front! In summary they are the ultimate low maintenance brakes for a utility/city bike but way too heavy for any kind of performance bike be it road, mountain gravel etc. Incidentally my bike also features a front hub dynamo, rear 5 speed hub gears, full chain protection and of course the thing so many UK cyclists hate the most - mudguards. As a result I use it all year round and perhaps once a year do some maintenance - I don't even have to remember to charge any lights!
Wow, I can't believe their own model gave such great results for their new product that they want to sell.
Hambini has made me super sceptical of videos like this.
What company in the world for whatever product would say that their new stuff is worse than their old one (unless it was hampered by new regulations)?
I guess this comment section does not know how to comprehend tech news/reviews 🙄
FYI, specialized have had gloves designed to reduce pressure on the Ulner nerve for some time. This is not new tech, but it is cool to see more companies doing it. Keep up the good work.
Phil Bert, in the squirel squad....thats nuts
At last some Campagnolo kit!
They are still fighting and beating Shima(NO!).
WTO wheels were compared with their cheaper ONE wheels,
and not their Ultra tubular wheels!
No rim wheel option though!
I would never ever use bland, boring Shima(NO!).
With the Endura shorts discussion it reminded me of a suggestion I had for a video idea: an in-depth video focusing on women’s health issues in cycling and talking to a gynecologist and a women’s health/pelvic floor specialist physio to provide expertise.
That would be cool.
OK the campy wheels are sexy but clearly for cycling's 1% ... of everything in this ep, the trainer tray is the most BRILLIANT! It's simple and solves a problem we've all had. Wish I thought of it! Ordered!!
Love the Campi’s. The big benefit of tubs is the ability to continue riding even when your tire is flat (though it doesn’t do wonders for the rim). There is one problem I ran into with the three spoke lacing on the rear wheel, a broken spoke made it unrideable. Maybe that problem has been resolved with the new stiffer spoke and nipple design.
With disc brakes you'd struggle to ride any low spoke-count wheel with a broken spoke!
Masterful placement of the spit shield today.
Beautiful wheels, but no rim brake version? Come on Campag.... I'll happily stick to my Bora Ultra 35s and 50s. Superb wheels
Oh hell yeah talking about Campagnolo Bora Wto .I just upgraded the Ultra Cult Ceramic bearing definitely worth the money.I don't care what people say it's worth the money.Talk more about CAMPAGNOLO INSTEAD OF SHIMANO NO OFFENCE LOL
Will Ollie ever get dropped again with such cutting edge wheels set ?
Great episode. Oversold the name of the bionic gloves.... lol
33's for the Old School wheel Look!!! on a light Climbing bike!!! :) Im a Campy Snob..... :)
This made me wonder:
- A fresh set of Bora wheels: roughly 1.450 gr and over 3.000€
- My current Mavic set: more or less 1.770 gr and just 100€
Can anyone now justify the massive price tag?
Where did you get a pair of wheels for 100buks?
@@neindanke1629 online shop, second-hand but like brank new, only 50kms on. 100€ with a pair of Vittoria Rubino Pro tires.
@@unairamos74 So not like for like then. To answer your question, price increase isn't proportional to performance increase. That's obvious.
@@whatwelearned it's Campagnolo, the wheels will be massively overpriced and you can buy an equivalent (or better) aero wheelset for 1/3rd of the price.
@@albr4 Let's name big brand components that aren't overpriced
No load on a spin down test , not a real world test 🤣 it time for the Hambini analyst 👍
great show like always guys!
I have an idea of a series that would also be interesting to see.
3 to 4 presenters are given a budget of a certain amount, an amount that represents just under the average cost of the most popular roadbikes for the keen amateur road cyclist. The presenters are then tasked with the job of sourcing the best frame, wheels, tires, groupsets and everything else that is needed to complete their budget build. The bike needs to be competent and hold its own in a race, because all the presenters are then entered into a race aomngst other amateur racers to determine how their bike build went.
In essence, which presenter is able to build the best bike for their buck?
Are wheels still 27inches? I stopped riding in the 90s , I always had Campagnolo nuevo record pàrts. Rims were Nisi and bàrs.neck saddles were always Chinelli or however it was spelled in Italian. Steel Columbus SLX frame. See up tires were Clement and Vitoria. Carried extra tire folded up under saddle . I also used a milled Campagnolo seat post. 1972 parts mostly. You are all too young to know what real classîc Italian bicycles looked like, but they were still fast with Senior 1 and 2 riders on them. I even hit 45 mph behind a car! That was about 1986. Really crazy right?
I would go for the 60mm wto.
As for tracker, I plan on using the newly launched Apple Airtags and put it into the frame, likely inside the seat post. Cheap solution and battery last over a year (claimed). While it may not give super accurate location, it’s still good enough and there lots of iPhone users in SG where I live making it ideal
Unfortunately, this is not going to work. Carbon fiber is known to not let radio signals pass through. Of course, I am assuming your seat post is carbon fiber. Probably just tape it under your saddle with black duct tape (to blend in better with the black composite shell) and it should work fine.
Uhhh I am sure someone else pointed this out but i believe the stats for bike theft are per 100K not 5 bikes total
Ceramic Bearing are in the first 50-100 km in Labratory-conditions faster then a regular Bearing. But if you ride them on the streets they will deteriorate very fast und if you repeat the Test after lets say 500km, the "CULT" Bearing will loose clearly.
Probikekit has them in RIM BRAKE so maybe Campagnolo went back on their promise (disc only) which is of course a good thing ❤❤❤
I used to ride a Dawes tandem with a drum brake, well, until the first time had a puncture week before a race, the faff of re-connecting, so it came off the next day.
The trainer tray looks awesome, but it’s $38 shipping to the UK.
Welcome to the gee sea enn tech show
Best presenters duo on gcn 👏
I can't wait to buy those Campy wheels to replace my Bora Ultra 35s in Zwift.
Just ordered my regular 60mm Wto and now they have ultra wtos... whuutttt
Well done on the explanation of the Endura female shorts - How many 'Takes' did that take?
45 but prefer the new Gipiemne 40!! Also fast half price
I’m glad too see Boone is extending there product range out past their “not so” fine wine.
Delta Brakes are an automatic super nice 🔔
Oh nice intro
anyone told Ollie that hairdressers are open
You guys should do tandem vs 2 roadies vs tt
Congratulations to Ollie for dealing with the description of women’s anatomy so sensitively. It could have gone SO wrong!
Sensitively and yet still possibly somewhat inaccurately and suppressing schoolboy sniggers all the while! I’m sure there are some outtakes for Christmas here...🤣
So on the hilly stage the Bora One clinchers are over 4 minutes faster than the Bora One tubular?! - The clinchers are also significantly faster on the climb TT too. Is anyone else surprised by this? Why did / does anyone bother with tubs??
Would also be interesting to see a comparison between WTOs with clinchers vs same wheel with tubeless
"Consult experts and women", might want to rethink that sentence in the Endura Women's specific section 🤔🤓
Never heard of drum brakes - then put up a Pashley for the bike vault with drum brakes on it? My daughter has a Pashley too with them and they aren’t light or aero of course but they do seem to work quite well and as sealed units Pashley told me they should be good for 30-50k miles if I remember correctly and weatherproof as well.
New segment #BikeFitVault
I’d go for the 45,... I have the 60s,great wheels
You think the 60s are too heavy?
@@RB-xv4si nope but you get blown around a little
I chose the WTO 60, they are fast as hell
I have all three depth (front and rear) (cost a fortune), and I find that I mostly roll with the 45mm...
Super show
the new campy bora wheelset don"t expect much change from three grand
An interesting and in-depth discussion about Endura bib shorts for females, so why was I completely distracted by the fact given early on that there was someone called Filbert in the Secret Squirrel Club? He'd have known where the nuts were hidden.
Places where you don't get gps signal are called ... forests. You don't get wifi there either : /
2 hour spindown on the ceramic bearing wheelset? Maybe it had no lube. Do ceramic bearings require no lube?
Bro we need Manon back for the bike vault..m these goobers are too generous. This dude has a bike rack in a photo, that old bike wasn't biggie smalls, and the last one the bike was being ridden for crying outloud. Where are the standards?!?
60 looks great
#AskGCNTech
Why does pedalling on different toothed cranks feel different inspite of the overall ratio is the same?
When I pedal on the smallest crank and smallest casette it feels like the tension is in the back end of the bike and when on larger crank and casette it feels like the tension is in rotating the crank below me.
I wonder if we will see component makers reverting their disc only philosophy in a few years because customers start to understand the advantages of rim breaks for the casual non-racing rider and there is a market to be filled. I strongly hope they will.
ProfGoodlife 👍, when discs have been flogged to saturation point I won't be surprised to see rim brakes being sold as the latest new improved tech at some point. Many can enjoy buying again the rim wheels they've recently binned as obsolete or sold on. Wouldn't it be refreshing if the industry recognised they're different products with different markets, after all they seem intent on re-defining new bike variants to the Nth degree
5 bikes 'reported' stolen in Manchester 😅 70000 unreported 😂😂😂
“England and Wales”?! What is that nubbly bit on the top right of the bit across that bit of sea to the west of England and Wales?
Elastomer pads?? How many grams does that add over foam? How aero?
The alarm you discussed does probably need a data simcard?
Thank you for your comment. The device does not need SIM. But need to subscribe to the Bicycle Guard Service including Sigfox network on the app (GBP 3.49 per month).
#askgcn What is the smoothest/fastest road or terrain to cycle on? Concrete, tarmac or asphalt? As in the least rolling friction? Thanks and hello from Belgium!
I'm sorry I am calling utter marketing BS here from campag on these wheels being faster in tubeless than tubulsr. The new WTO are 200g heavier than the bora 50 quoted. The lightest tubular tyres i found online at 25mm were 220grms each...plus 57grams of sealent required to make them work. The lightest tubulars were 215grams all in. So the wto on tubeles total 325grams heavier than a tubular set up. The increased speed has nothing to do with tyre and everything to do with wheel aero. Campags own figures show tubular are slower than standard clinchers ..if thats so then there are going to be some mighty p#$@ed off pros who have been conned into riding tubular for years. 😂😂 Fact is if the tubular had exactly the same compound/tread pattern as tubeless then tubular would still have better or the same rolling resistance. Read all the research out there. Campag...if you want to put uo figures that have any validity then make these wheels in tubular as well. Stick on your lightest tubular tyres and stick on your lightest tubless tyres and then get a hill climber to thouroughly test them. I'll bet there's virtually no difference in time but a lot of difference in comfort. Why do you think campag quoted 3.5w per kg on the hill climb? Could it possibly be that you need 3.5w per kg at 8% to get to the speed required for the areo to take effect...hmmmm..? If you want to ride tubeless go forr it .. but Ollie as you lot are always so keen to point out...aero trumps everything.. so I am not disputing these wheels are faster than the 50mm tubular bora...but because the ultras are tubeles? 😂😂😂 Nope...sorry just marketing.... and since when did you put any valudity in modelling....I did some modelling in my 20s... still didnt make me good looking even though i believed it...😂😂
Sorry guys you’ve misread the stats. They say that 1 bike is stolen per 100,000 people living in Salford and Manchester not 1 stolen in total.
Campagnolo's current product strategy seems a little bit strange to me... with 11-speed they had 4 electronic groupsets, from super expensive Super Record via Recor, Chorus down to Athena EPS. Now (12-speed) they only offer the super expensive Super Record EPS which is significantly more expensive than a Dura-Ace Di2. Beside Dura-Ace Shimano has the more affordable and reliable Ultegra Di2, SRAM now unveiled the Rival AXS as their third and cheapest wireless groupset (ok weight with < 3 kg is far beyond evil^^). Is Campy unable to do affordable electronic groupsets now or is is just a lack of will to do so? Esp. the current aero full-integrated frames benefit from electronic shifting, a mechanical shifting cable running through narrow stems isn't the best technical solution, with cables or wireless shifting this doesn't matter. I think Campagnolo has to offer electronic groupsets in more affordable regions soon if they don't want to lose more and more market shares to Shimano and SRAM. The traditional mechanical shifting freaks aren't enough for a component manufacturer.
And what's with TT riders and Triathletes running the new disc brake TT bikes with electronic shifting? Only Super Record EPS for rim brakes, Shimano offers at least a Dura-Ace flatbar lever with Di2 and hydraulic brakes (an Ultegra version is still missing).
Are new expensive wheelset isn't that much exciting as I can choose from so many offers, but I'd like to see Campa groups which can compete with Ultegra Di2! ;-)
#GCNTech wanting to send some “snacks of the week”. Was told there is a full que of snacks and not to send them?! Bought a whole box of maple strop waffles for the crew but I guess I can’t send them?
Hey, Snacks are ALWAYS welcome. No snacks are turned away haha
@@GCNalex YES!! do I send them to Playsports HQ address?
nice wheels, I think for the minute I'll stick with my Campag Shamal carbon disk pair.
What is your opinin about Shamal carbons as a user? Happy with them? Thanks!
@@jou3708 really pleased with them both on & off road.
What’s surprised me most is how for a mid section deep wheel good they are in cross winds, no real sail effect.
Low bike theft in Manchester?? I used to live in Manchester and someone stole my bike while I was riding it - hit me over the back of the head with a blunt object, I fell off, and he got on and sped away.
It's tough to take a tubeless-ready deep-section wheel seriously when it doesn't come with valves! And as far as I can tell, Campagnolo doesn't even make suitable valves so you have to use third-party valves. Nor do they list which third-party valves (or tires) have been tested compatible. That is hardly a system. Also Campy wheel pricing in the USA is messed up, I can get them shipped from EU for ~40% less.
"Have to have an internal investigation into bike theft and see if there's any corruption in the industry"
An investigation...
Into bike theft...
And see if there's any corruption...
Let us know the results of that investigation 😆😆😆
The new wheels might be heaven. But as long as industry follows TR these wheels are not mine. Either Clincher or Tubs !
Those cranks are heinous...
Those Boone cranks look like the Ocarina of Time from the Legend of Zelda N64 game.
For a minute, I thought the username at 24:17 was a new bottom bracket "standard".
So up until this point in time Campag have only delivered sub optimal wheel sets as these are sooo much faster, stiffer and aero. Emperor’s new clothes anyone?
That's literally how technology works... Time = improvements.
@@lawrencesingleton2153 And marketing too. Stick five blades on a disposable razor head and suddenly it’s so much better than the old three blade version. Re-inventing the wheel so to speak.
@@Lestalad1961 not really, because the number of people who are going to buy these wheels is really small. They don't spend much money on marketing them. They send a few free sets out to various cycling media outlets, and maybe pay places like GCN to feature them, but that's low cost compared to the money spent for a mass market product. When pro teams are relying on your gear to win races, and have wheels from different manufacturers independently tested, it is massively in their interest to make sure they are making the best wheels they can. Razor tech is all a sham. Single blade safety razor, pack of 100 blades for less than a tenner, and they last multiple uses. I'm still getting through the box I bought in 2018! That industry is 100% marketing, and there is no demonstrable performance increase.
3:00 do you mean moment of inertia?
Oli didn’t learn his lesson aero is everything
Guys, please add timelines/chapters to these shows.
A little science lesson, deeper the wheel better it's aero performance.
Companies advertising this is complete bs. The aerodynamically perfect wheel will be one that shape shifts according to air. (In real world situation.) And I don't think any thing like this is invented.
yup, their 80mm bora wheel is probably still faster than this new WTO 60mm rim.