COST OF CAMMING A 392 HEMI |FULL BREAKDOWN Of Part & Cost For Your Dodge Charger Or Challenger 392|
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2021
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I dive into the cost of camming a 392 HEMI and breakdown EVERYTHING that has to be done and the options to safely CAM your Dodge Challenger Or Charger 392! We use my shop and BIG shout to MXA Mass Acceleration Motorsports!
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3341 dollars for parts, 3150 for labor/install and 1400 for tune
Sounds right. Paid 6k to cam my 5.7. Headers, cam, torque converter. The labor is what fucks you
Can you post the kit for your that camshaft, I have the same one but can’t find the correct kit.
Yall paying too much 😂 mine with install was only like 2.5k lol thats the whole valve train with it
@@thekingsmen4631 where you get it done
People saying they can’t justify that price on a cam, let’s say u got intake headers exhaust with a tune, you’d be around 430-440, and this came alone brought u up to 520+ bruh, that’s money well worth it in my book, that motor is a 600hp NA monster.
Camshafts are the new heads mod! It used to be power was restricted by manufactures at the heads and so buying heads was just a massive performance gain...now that mechanicle bottle neck is the camshaft..if you want to mod your daily driver skip the exhaust, skip the port and polish skip the cold air intake and put hour nickles into that camshaft and tune...after that you can start doing bolt on stuff..but that camshaft is the bottleneck you got to replace to unlock all that performace in a modern car..
@@jasondavis4421 The real cheat code!
Cammed my 5.7 with a texas speed stage 3. Sounds dope, makes good power and is fun to daily
My cam is coming soon in my 392, but I feel the same way building your car is better than just buying the fastest car
I appreciate you giving information on mopar rides. It really seems like there’s still not enough people modding hemis to just easily get good information on it. I’m afraid of tearing mine up.
Any guys that do decide to do a cam please go to 3/8 pushrods, Manton rocker shafts, and Stanke collars and braces. These items will help you stabilize your valve train and rev on up to 7500 or so if the cam is big enough to do it. We've got to rev these motors guys if we are ever going to compete with the LS or new LT engines. Port the heads run a big cam that pulls hard to 7300+. Bad ass torque converter and these cars should run some good times
I checked your channel to see if you had any videos of you working on cars. I'm not surprised you don't. A 6.4 does not need to turn up to 7500 to make more hp. If a stock Mustang 5.0 can make 460 hp @ 6500. A 392 should be able to make 580 @ the same speed.
I love the “we’ve got to revs these to compete with the LS guys” pep talk like it’s a basketball game. 😂
@@1439of2000makes me want to go an do a full valve train.
I have been under the impression that since mustangs don’t have pushrods, they can make hp at higher rpms.
I have the comp cams stage 3. 274 on my 392. Love the chop. Cost me around 3000 for installation and purchase.
Huge fan of the shop man how’s the daily driving with it?
@@Toro704 no issues. The chop was sporadic in the beginning buy I guess it is a break in period and now sounds great. Need to get to the dyno at some point.
did u need a tuner for it?
@@angelrosas7294 yeah it had to be tuned also.
do you have a insta i can dm you on i’m needing help on what i need for when i wanna cam my scatpack
It is a lot of money for not a lot of gain. You have to tear the engine almost completely down to do a cam on the 392. At that point with the investment of going that far you should replace the pistons and rods so you can pro-charge it in the future and get some real hp out of it. You won't want a Hellcat anymore...
You can do that, but the Hellcat has more of a ceiling to work with because of the transmission. If you want a cam swap done, it makes more sense to combine it with headers because overall it will be cheaper, instead of taking the car in twice, etc. Also, the cost of _everything_ has gone up, and this kind of work is expensive regardless of make, model or platform.
@@1320_ikimashoeven doing everything myself it’s expensive the US dollar is worthless
U can’t slide the cam in the lt1 u have to take the whole engine out for the 2016+ Camaros and corvettes
Full of "useful" info. Thanks for sharing your homework! Good job
Navigating through traffic at the same time. Professor
Bra it’s the same amount of work to do a cam in a Hemi or ls. Gotta change springs in heads, pull the water pump, timing cover and slide the cam out
Hey is there a way I can get a screen shot of your itemized breakdown I’m thinking about doing a 392 swap on my RT and I’m taking time now to purchase parts I just want to know what I need to go ahead and get so I buy once and cry once 😂
Now that’s what a Mope should sound like!
If my f8 green scat can get what that green scat did in this video ill be satisfied 🤝
That is one helluva LOPE!
What stage is your cam?
sounds good to me 😂🔥
Would I be able to cam stock 392. With no longtube headers and stall
Yea you can for sure but the tune can help with those aspect but if you can it is do heads too
What shop is this and did you say it’s located in NC? Looking to wrap my 392
If you want a wrap hit up Atlantic Wraps & tell them Toro sent you & they will hook you up
Greetings, what brand did you use and what number? Factory converter or did you change the converter?
I did a customer grind cam by MXA and I did change the converter I wish I remembered that was so long ago my man
Damn I want a cam but I can’t justify paying 3k-4.5k even if I’ll do the work. I think I’ll just get a nitrous kit since I am planning on getting a turbo kit/ engine built in the future. I’ll just put that money on that. Great job breaking down the bill and how much it cost. Definitely help those who are looking into quotes.
Yea man at the end of the day if you boost the motor the bottom end has to be done and a special can normally goes in anyway so it’s always good to forward think!!
@@Toro704 yup a boost cam which would be pointless to install that now without boost, it’ll be a waste since I won’t gain any hp . If I was staying N/A I definitely would’ve cammed it but something about a Turbo hemi keeps reeling me in lol
@@JohnDoe-xl1ig see at that point its stupid using nitrous if you’re using it everyday and aren’t racing for cash in that case just get a supercharger or turbo. In my opinion it’s for an additional power when needed not something you should depend on every second.
You will blow the motor up doing that that's the dumbest thing you could possibly do the bottom end has to be built to handle nitrous or boost
@@reapersmind7162 not necessarily as long as you are in the safe zone you can use it as many times you want. If it was the dumbest thing to do then companies will literally put a warning that their kits isn’t attended for stock vehicles. Instead they give you a “ tune “ that you yourself can use on your car.
Does the torque converter need changed out ?
I changed mine out but I race so I wanted to be able to launch the car at higher RPM
@@Toro704 thanks for the reply I have an rt and was just curious if it would hold up for a daily
My 392 is built cammed and boosted and I’ve put a lil over 20k in the car, and I did it on a budget..I still have about 7k untill the car is completely done. I’d say expect to spend around 30k
Bro serious question, if you put 20k into a 392 why not just buy the hellcat? I'm sure you're still not pushing 707hp so wouldn't it make sense to save time on just going hellcat?
@@392_RHINO I’m well over 707, and to be honest 707 crank is actually not that fast.
Hellcats are 50-60k, I spent 28k on my car with 30k+ in it. I actually saved money.
With a hellcat your spending 50-60k for the car then another 15-20k on mods. The main difference is the hellcat platform gives you a head start with a forged rotating assembly and a blower to work with.
I can’t afford the high car payments at this stage in my life to purchase a hellcat.
@@copaceticproductionz5924 damn you're the first person I've heard that went over hellcat speed. It's another dude I follow with a white scat and he added a cam with lifters and pistons and he said he didn't feel a difference
@@392_RHINO once you throw a blower or turbo setup on a 392 you’ll bypass redeye power easily. Build it right from the block up. And it will be reliable
@@copaceticproductionz5924 that's dope I'm in Miami and I'd love to see your car and hear it
You can't go wrong when you're from North Carolina and you're minding your cars go North Carolina the heart of modding muscle cars
Man i put a stage 2 comp cam in my 6.4 hemi and don’t sound like this chop right here and i got long tubes and and upgraded the stall to a 3200 it hits good but i want that chop chop sound and eventually get e85 or metal 😈
Go for it!!!
@@Toro704 Man if u mind me asking what size is ur cam
Custom grind my brotha but I used to do the 274
@@Toro704Thank u
This is why I twin turboed my Scat. Power per dollar isn't worth a cam job, especially if you just want the sound at idle.
so I actually am dropping a video tomorrow about twin turbo man bc I looked at that as well
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Did you do forged internals? What about the gearbox? How many hp did you end up with?
@@georgegabriel7766 Not yet. The motor is still stock. But I did upgrade the turbos to larger units.
Yes, but even 'big build' turbo cars, require a cam swap at some point. In 2024 , you'll be spending 15k-25k on turbo swap, not to mention other parts that accompany it.
@@1320_ikimasho True. Since my original post. I had my motor built wth a custom grind cam and full fuel system upgrade. But now I can push 1000hp mark.
Hey, just asking real quick, when you had the cam installed, were you able to drive it to the tune shop? Or how did that process go?
It was at the same place
So is a tune needed to crank and a different tune needed to drive 2017 charger hemi 5.7 to scatpack cam 6.4 and mds lifters
@@gerardwhite1623 I have no idea
What do you mean when you say "I suggest to do the heads"? Sorry I'm new to this whole modding thing.
Heads are apart of the engine that need to be strong when adding power
@@Toro704 That still doesn't mean anything.
@@bailey9r he meant to get headers, search up long tube headers
@@jimkeydaniel3246 You think "I suggest to do the heads" means upgrade the exhaust system? What?
@@jimkeydaniel3246 no, he meant to get aftermarket heads or ported heads 😂
What cam do you have installed in this car?
Custom grind from MXA
What cam did u do? And exhaust
I still have stock exhaust honestly man and go 274 or custom grind
A shop want to charge me 2500$ just for installation 💀😭
what kind of cam do you have?
274
Between the cost and the possibility of damage to the motor if anything is not done correctly is just not worth it for 50 hp, just my opinion but I paid $55,000, for the beast and it’s great as is, and 50hp isn’t enough to go through all that, I’m good but I’m also not racing, but even if I was , no thanks the car was built amazing and if you want more power get the hellcat used when the prices return to earth.
Facts
I would rather build my car and spend 15+ more and have an original one of a kind car rather than a me too car. Anyone can buy a car but not anyone can build a car. Everyone has their taste.
@gygygbunknbhgyvtc well, technically one isn't "building it" but rather, BUYING aftermarket parts, then PAYING _someone else_ to install, dyno and tune the car. A better, more accurate term would be "aftermarket/modded" vs "stock."
About $12k to fully forge and build a 392 the right way.
Might as well just buy a hellcat
The scats can make demon power if built properly. That's really when dollar for dollar, it becomes worth it. I've seen a few twin turbo 426 short blocks pushing 1000+whp.
im keeping up with stock hellcats without a cam right now i was seriously considering going that route until they started shutting down all the pipelines and signed the green new deal so they are going to run us out of our cars very soon with retarded gas prices so i think ill go nitrous thanks for the run down sir!
Go crazy my man and yea I feel that I think I’ll keep mine forever even with the prices I’ll just have to bite the bullet and buy a battery car too😂😂
how you keepin up with cats ..u supercharged
@@chrispowe5608 nope im assuming they get heat soaked easy so i hang no problem plus i was basically FBO minus headers with a really good tune.
what kinda tune what you use
@@chrispowe5608 tazer is all you need then you can map the lightshow to one of the buttons on the steering wheel 😎
Waste of time and money IMO.
I ran my scat against a fully built blown 426 E85 build on a roll and he left me like I was sitting still no joke. Supercharged 426 with E85 is the way to go, anything else will be a disappointment
I’d rather spend the extra $6k-$7k for supercharger, love the lope, but for $3k-$4k for a cam setup I’ll go SC route any day!
Facts but with super charger you have to think internals on top for sure so cost deff varies
@@Toro704 youd need to build the bottom end of the scats. Pistons, rods and most likely some of the top end as well. Once you do that . Youre well over 10k, a 3-4k cam setup is just fine and a lot more affordable!
@@Toro704 clean ride brother!
@@dukesixtwo appreciate you my man
I’m going to do a magnuson I believe and not build anything! Running 6-7psi max until I do want to build it and then can up the psi to 12-15psi and beyond depending on the build! I’ve been researching like a good boy and I get they aren’t built for boost but from what I have read they can handle 5-7psi no more unless you are forging and such! If my engine blows on 6-7psi I’ll just replace it with something better or fully build the blown 6.4! Anyway that’s my story lol! 👊🏻😎
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So I just installed this cam and it does not lope like that. It actually doesn’t hardly lope at all.
Did you check the specs on the 274 and have your tuner look at lobe separation?
@@Toro704 I installed the stage 2 hrt cam 222/230 lsa 115. Same cam as you.
@@918h22man in a 6.4 right
@@Toro704 yeah 6.4L. I’ve actually been tuning it for the past day since I got the mpvi 3 when I unlocked the pcm thru hp tuners. I got the idle dialed in so now it has a nice chop. Apparently these chops have to be tuned in, the hrt cams don’t really chop on their own.
One more thing. Did you have increased valvetrain noise? Like a typewriter tick after installing this cam? Runs strong, just has encresssx ticking noises.
What shop you go to
Mass acceleration
I took a shot of beer every time he said right and I’m pretty drunk
Glad I could help
I can’t stop hearing it now, thanks for that
Have you ever heard of Jay green he's the tune goat to dodge ...
I don’t believe I have
Help them out Russ this information is crucial
Yessir
There's not a break in on a roller cam😂😂😂 basically run it to temp....change the oil If u even want to. I mean it wouldn't b a bad idea to run break in oil for the new lifters
Bro put your seatbelt on...
Seatbelt bro
I realized editing it 😂🤦♂️
For the horsepower..not worth the money
Dam, getting a cam is a scam 💀. Almost 5k in. Might as well just get a supercharger. Save up for boost bruh.
Shit might as well get a hellcat with all the money going in just to make it louder and not really that much more HP
Nah can’t you’d have to basically rebuild the whole motor to super charge it , but no cap 500 - 550 NA power is really good , that’s almost hellcat power , a stock hellcat is 600 to the wheel
@@xxsexybeastxx9919no it’s not
A lot of folks get confused by dyno numbers . NA and boost is different power delivery. The (stock) Hellcat power kicks in much later in the RPM. An NA 392 car kicks in the power early. This is why if you watch a drag race the Hellcat will start to pull away after the 1/8 mile mark. I've had both cars.
First.
Can’t hide money 😂
I borrowed it from you
@@Toro704 😂😂
Just buy a hellcat Gesh . It’s already done and way more hp. Simple and want waste time doing all this crap he talking about
Or be diiffrent and have a fully built 392 that snokes any kitty
And still get smoked by a mustang with a cold air and tune lol😂
You have no idea 😂 I’ll wax that mustang with ease
Watch the damn road!!!!
Supercharger from Edelbrock. 8k